From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #339 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, June 22 1998 Volume 03 : Number 339 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- New Jewel book! [90 blackwell ] NJC: ICQ [Shawn Duckett ] Criticism of Jewel's Poetry Reading [Charlie Watkins ] Re: ANWA CD review [Dookie746@aol.com] Jewel WAVs [Scott Evans ] POLL #20 Results [PENNY16161@aol.com] Re: ANWA CD review ["David Trinh" ] 20Q-Question#014 [sessykes1@juno.com (Scott E Sykes)] Monotonous on CD [just-a-girl@lycosmail.com] NJC: LIVING ROOM CONCERT TONITE WITH MARY DOLAN & ERIC GERBER!!! [kartals] jewel vinl [angelfoodcake84@juno.com (alexandra l phillips)] POLL RESULTS: did you enter the poetry contest [Charlie Watkins ] Regarding oral reading of poetry ...... [Kellie ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: 90 blackwell Subject: New Jewel book! Hi Weirdos, um....I don't know if anyone else has heard of this book called: Pop Culture presents the story of JEWEL. It's by Mark Bego? I just got it tonight at Tower Records and it cost 14.95 + tax.....It's like a 9 1/2 by 12 with 64 pgs. every other page is a picture of Jewel. Well if you haven't here's some info that might help you obtain it: Omnibus Press, order #-OZ 100100, ISBN- 0.8256.1685.9 There's also an address so here it is: Power Publishing Limited Kumar House 33 Newman street London W1P 3PO England Well I hope I helped some of you Jewel freaks! If you need more info just e-mail me and I'll try to help.................. Aurorah (\o/) /_\ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:30:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Duckett Subject: NJC: ICQ Hello everyone. I just thought that sence I haven't posted in a while I would just say a little something. For all of you who have ICQ. I lost everyone on mine and I would like to have some one to talk to.. I did have a few people from this list and if you get this send me a message. K.. For the people who don't have ICQ don't worry about this little message.. hehe.. and for the people who would maby like to talk and get to know eachother better my number is 5627657 ICQ me.... K. I need some one to talk to.. I'm getting bourd here.. with nothing to do.. :) so Oh for thoughs people out there who are new or don't know me my name is SHawn. aka ZERO so hello to everyone who I haven't talked to in a long time my puter was down for about 3 weeks.. Can some one tell me what has been going on... Please :) :) L8ter.. :) == Night Angle: I'm a fallen angel, with broken wings. I need a little help,to get back up flying again. -Shawn- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:55:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Charlie Watkins Subject: Criticism of Jewel's Poetry Reading Read the to statements below. 1.They're familiar subjects, but her descriptive power, evocative phrasing, and expressive voice raise the work above mere cliche. 2. Each letter in every word is emphasized with such exact pronunciation that the delivery lacks any authenticity. The poems are not spoken, they are manufactured from her throat: carefully packaged, consumable, disposable. Now ask yourself how these two opinions could be about the same piece of work. The answer is simple, they are opinions and they are from two different people. This is the nature of poetry. It is intensely personal and it must be filtered through whatever life experience the reader or listener may have. In my experience readings _must_ be done in a cool and precice voice. The reasons are that it must be understood by people of varying hearing acuity. Also, the reader must let each listener determien the significance of the words by themselves, without undo emphasis or emotion on the reader's part. In poetry words must stand by alone and unadorned by the particular voice that is reading them. So, the two very different critiques above are possible because the individuals perceive the words differently. While one found significance and meaning in the words, the other did not. Thus one says the reading is expressive and evocative, the other says it "lacks authenticity." Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Raymond Wong Subject: Re: ANWA CD review > Kristen wrote: > I'm not really agreeing w/ this at all but I have to say I was a little > disappointed at how monotone the cd version is. I like the book a lot > better because when I read it I read it w/ stressing certain things or > whatever. I dunno. Does anyone else thing the cd is sorta emotionless? > Not completely, just sorta...? Emily wrote: > I think it's a little hard to put emotions into spoken poetry, especially when > one poem isn't supposed to be taken for face value. I know when I read poetry > I can never express the emotion put into it, so I don't really even try. Hmmm, I probably should get the CD before I comment, but actually, this is more a general comment on poetry reading, so this still applies. First off, it sounds like the review that started this thread may have been right that the CD readings are rather monotonous, I submit that A) suggesting that monotone reading isn't a valid "interpretation" doesn't say anything, and B) finding fault with the *reading* and judging the *book* by that is specious. I personally *don't* like to see a lot of emotion added into a poetry reading, unless you're talking performance poetry. Especially in this age where free verse is seemingly dominant, poetry tells as much in what is NOT there as what is. If a syllable isn't supposed to be read, it shouldn't be there. If I'm supposed to read a meaning in, I shouldn't need the extras from a reading. Line breaks are part of the poem's format, so I do expect a slight pause at the end of each, line skips should, imho, be slightly longer. Other than that, yes, I believe the reading should be rather plain. That's not to say there isn't any emotion, but rather, that the words themselves should carry it. We do fill in emotion as we hear words, and I think that's great. What I don't want or need is to have that emotion handed to me. It's the difference between being thought-provoking and thought-providing. Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@best.com, negativl@netcom.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:47:00 EDT From: Dookie746@aol.com Subject: Re: ANWA CD review << I'm not really agreeing w/ this at all but I have to say I was a little disappointed at how monotone the cd version is. I like the book a lot better because when I read it I read it w/ stressing certain things or whatever. I dunno. Does anyone else thing the cd is sorta emotionless? Not completely, just sorta...? *~Kristen~* >> I just got ANWA on CD from my boyfriend (he's so sweet!!!) and I have to agree. I think that Jewel is concentrating too much on the dictation of her poems rather than the emotions...... I know that her manager, or the producer of the CD or whomever probably stressed to her that dictation is key when making an audio version of something written, but it seems to consume her throughout the entire CD.... I mean, she makes literary pauses when need be, but I agree that she doesn't emphasize words I would expect to be emphasized... I was kinda dissapointed too.... that, and I was angry that WE TALK wasn't on her CD...... Well, that's all folks...! Candle ZK's Heaven Sent Angel * * * {\0/} * * /_\ * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Evans Subject: Jewel WAVs Could somebody please tell me where to find some Jewel-related wavs? My computer is messed up, and it won't play RAs or MIDIs...Thanks in advance! -Scott Evans- The Hyperactive Angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:04:12 EDT From: PENNY16161@aol.com Subject: POLL #20 Results Here are the results to the past poll (Favorite Poem in ANWA): Sara Said - 3 Pretty - 3 The Slow Migration of Glaciers - 2 Camoflauge - 1 We Talk - 1 I Look At Young Girls Now - 1 Second Thoughts in Columbus, OH - 1 Too Many Nights - 1 Lovers For Lily - 1 New Moon - 1 Austin. Texas Sheraton Hotel 2am - 1 Leaving Las Vegas - 1 Father Of A Deaf Girl - 1 I Guess What I Wanted - 1 All The Words - 1 Tai Pei 2 - 1 Goodness - 1 Wild Horse - 1 The Things You Fear - 1 Insecurity - 1 Someone To Know -1 God Exists Quietly - 1 Saved From Myself Thanks to all who voted. Brett The Angel Formally Known As.... http://members.aol.com/PENNY16161/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:09:43 PDT From: "David Trinh" Subject: Re: ANWA CD review << I'm not really agreeing w/ this at all but I have to say I was a little disappointed at how monotone the cd version is. I like the book a lot better because when I read it I read it w/ stressing certain things or whatever. I dunno. Does anyone else thing the cd is sorta emotionless? Not completely, just sorta...? *~Kristen~* >> >I think it's a little hard to put emotions into spoken poetry, >especially when one poem isn't supposed to be taken for face value. I >know when I read poetry I can never express the emotion put into it, >so I don't really even try. >~Emily, the Sunrise Angel~ >*I'd rather see the world from another angle* I personally think the spoken word has a lot do with poetry. Take Shakespeare for example, I feel when it is read out, it gains extra meaning through the intonations and emotion that is expressed. I think poetry should be read out as it adds the emotion. Poetry on papaer just seems so mathematical, so unemotional. Just my 2 cents to add ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:41:03 -0500 From: sessykes1@juno.com (Scott E Sykes) Subject: 20Q-Question#014 What do you see as the greatest problem facing out great country today? Scott Sykes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:58:19 -0400 (EDT) From: just-a-girl@lycosmail.com Subject: Monotonous on CD Hey.. There has been a lot of discussion of late on Jewel's monotonous delivery on the ANWA cd. A lot of people have tried to analyse her reasons for delivering the poetry in this way but no one seems to have mentioned the obvious. The fact is as you all know, Jewel is very busy. This CD had to be released in conjunction with the book so obviously recording time was limited and had to be juggled around her filming schedule. Now I know that if I was this stressed and had to walk into a recording studio, faced with the prospect of reading 80 + poems, one after the other, then the last thing I would be thinking about was how I sounded, and I reckon that Jewel felt this way too. Jewel is obviously under a lot of pressure. Her schedule is very demanding and I'm sure her vocal tone was the last thing on her mind. The fact is, to write poems of this beauty requires a certain amount of passion. As long as Jewel felt passion when WRITING the poetry, then surely it doesn't matter whether she felt passion when READING it. I know that the poetry will still strike a chord in me when I listen to it. Rach xxx (The Angel With The Golden Voice And Broken Wings) http://www.angelfire.com/az/kilcherskabin/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:19:24 -0400 (EDT) From: kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU Subject: NJC: LIVING ROOM CONCERT TONITE WITH MARY DOLAN & ERIC GERBER!!! Hello all you lovely people, I am sending out this email again to tell you all -- one more time -- about tonight's AMAZING Living Room Concert! Mary Dolan, hailing all the way from San Diego, and Eric Gerber, hailing from practically down the street and around the bend, will be storming my living room with all their amazingly jaw-dropping beautiful music. The show begins at 7 PM and will be held in my very own living room (aww shucks ain't I just so lucky? i feel like it!!). Please come and fill up the seats on my couches and the spots on my floor! There are plenty of pillows to go around, and trust me, no one will regret hearing Mary and Eric play...those of you who have heard Mary out in San Diego or in other parts of this country know how breathtaking she is. And those of you who are keen to Eric Gerber either from his solo work or from his work with Kevin So know that he is more resilient a singer than the leaves in autumn that glide towards the ground... Here is the low-down... What: Living Room Concert Where? 76 Boston Ave., Medford, MA Time 7 PM $$ $10 minimum donation which goes straight to the singers who Eric Gerber opening and Mary Dolan headlining RSVP PLEASE DO! Directions...Email me privately ***THIS IS A NON ALCOHOL/DRY EVENT*** ***NO SMOKING PLEASE*** feel free to contact me if you wuold still like to come... work: (617) 252-0206 i will be in till about 3 today home: (781) 483-1796 take care my lovelies! stephanie Stephanie Maria Kartalopoulos And I know it's easier to think kartalst@hugse1.harvard.edu the grass is always greener on The Greek Poet Chyck the other side -Jenny Bruce A new world waits for me- my dreams, my way To love another person is to see -Enya the face of God -Les Miserables ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 16:15:29 -0400 From: angelfoodcake84@juno.com (alexandra l phillips) Subject: jewel vinl does anyone have it (pov vinl) who would be willijng to traid it for a steve polyz cd or the cd of anwa poetry or could some1 copy the bunos songs 4 me please thanx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:05:26 -0600 (MDT) From: Charlie Watkins Subject: POLL RESULTS: did you enter the poetry contest Yes=27 No =27 Interesting. Are we to conclude that half the EDA's entered? Beats me. Also, there were 3 who answered that they couldn't enter because of the restriction to the US. Thanks for participating. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:25:25 -0600 (MDT) From: Charlie Watkins Subject: ANWA moves down the LA Time list 15. A NIGHT WITHOUT ARMOR by Jewel (HarperCollins: $15) A poetry collection about hard knocks and deep thoughts by the pop singer. Last Week: 6; Weeks on List: 3 Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:42:52 EDT From: MelDerI@aol.com Subject: SJC: Steve Poltz on Musique Plus Hey EDA's! I was watching TV yesterday afternoon and happened to turn to Musique Plus (like Much Music, but it's in Montreal). Anyways, I saw Steve Poltz sitting on the sidewalk with his guitar and he was being interviewed by a girl at Musique Plus. I don't know if I caught it from the beginning, but from what I saw, he sang a couple of songs that he made up right on the spot and they showed a bit of his 'Silver Lining' video (which looks really cool). Now, for the Jewel content. Naturally, the girl asked him about his relationship with Jewel and he told her this little story. Before he and Jewel got record deals and when they were going out and living together, his car broke down one day and he found out that he had $650 in parking tickets. Both of them didn't have much money back then. So, he called Jewel and asked her to pick him up. Not only did she come and pick him up, she also brought $650 out of her own pocket for him. Awww..... how sweet of her. :) They also showed clips of Sean Penn's version of YWMFM. See ya, Melissa angel who learned how to drive. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:35:11 PDT From: "Swifty §:D" Subject: Heart Song: The Story of Jewel EDA's, I have also found that particular book here in Rhode Island. If anyone is having trouble finding it please let me know. I am willing to set up a trade. Melissa da Newsies Angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 13:55:50 -0400 From: Kellie Subject: Regarding oral reading of poetry ...... Just to add my two cents :) I haven't heard the audio version of ANWA at all yet, but poetry is supposed to be read with emotion ... that is what it is all about! In every poetry/creative writing class I have ever taken the teacher has been very clear that the reading is the chance to show emotion, show which parts of the poem have which certain emotion. Any words, read differently, can evoke different emotion, thus creating different meaning, so when you read a poem that you wrote, read it how you want it to sound ... I don't think worrying about dictation should matter ... maybe a certain part is supposed to be hard to understand, etc. Anyway, if I ever hear Jewel's audio version, I will have another 2 cents worth of comment I am sure :) I have to say though, that I saw her on MTV Live reading a few poems, and I thought she evoked lots of emotion ... maybe she just was forced into reading a certain way for the CD/tape ... too bad... I am sure she can tell the difference in the audio versions than her live readings etc... - ---Kellie--- ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #339 ***************************