From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #810 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * To unsubscribe send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/xenomorph/jtour.htm jewel-digest Saturday, October 4 1997 Volume 02 : Number 810 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC question about project list ["Beth" ] STOP IT!... [Elspeth LeForce ] Re: Stop being mean (NJC) [ZRedheadz@aol.com] Re: NJC question about EDA-project list [Mike Connell ] sorry to post ["THERESA M. DODSON" ] Jewel in W magazine [Michele Gallagher ] A Little Problem.... [gosiam@juno.com] Re: Re: Only Jewel, JEWELry, and Advice [Elizab8637@aol.com] Re: Only Jewel, JEWELry, and Advice [joe ] Kiss Your Ass ["Ben or Tom Hall" ] Re: Face of Love ["Jay C. Johnson" ] NJC: Recent list happenings [Seth Fulmer ] Why All The Arguments? ["Ben or Tom Hall" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 04 Oct 97 14:28:25 PDT From: "Beth" Subject: NJC question about project list Okay, sorry if this info is on a website somewhere that I have missed...I have heard about an EDA project list and I was wondering if someone could tell me how to get involved with all that...also, if this has something to do with the EDAF sorry to ask on the list, I'm having trouble pulling up that website on my computer. Maybe I have the wrong address. Can anyone help me out here? Make peace...not war....douse the flames! <3 Beth There are less than 300 Gorillas left in the wild, will our children live in a world without them? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 11:05:30 -0700 From: Elspeth LeForce Subject: STOP IT!... Why can we just all get along! The mailing list it supposed to be for people of the same intrests JEWEL, and we are supposed to get along and talk about Jewel. It is all right for someone to voice their opinion, but they should get a hundered messages, of people wanting a debait! Why don't people just drop the subject! Instead of arguing and arguing about it! On another note: Does anyone have any angelfood I could buy? I really want to get some. All I have is POY. Elspeth (the cat lover angel, who is sick and tired of all the bickering) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 14:29:33 -0400 (EDT) From: ZRedheadz@aol.com Subject: Re: Stop being mean (NJC) O.K. I'm new around here, and I'm just wondering, what is NJC? Peace love happiness Heather ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 14:40:39 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: NJC question about EDA-project list Beth asked: > Okay, sorry if this info is on a website somewhere that I have missed...I > have heard about an EDA project list and I was wondering if someone could > tell me how to get involved with all that...also, if this has something to > do with the EDAF sorry to ask on the list, I'm having trouble pulling up > that website on my computer. Maybe I have the wrong address. The EDA-project list and the EDAf are two totally separate entities. First, the EDAF website. Dennis server has had problems lately, that has been creating sporadic problems with reachin the EDAF and JewelStock web sites. The web addy for the EDAF web site is http://www.theartof.com/edaf More info on the EDAF (EveryDay Angels Foundation) will be forthcoming from the group heading up that effort. :) The EDA-Project list is a list that I formed in August to hold open discussion on any projects list members want to discuss in volume and/or in detail, while keeping the main Jewel@smoe list free of this discussion. (The JEWELry was the main topic on this EDA-project list then) It has like 60 people on it, was QUITE active in August and early September, but there's been like two posts on it in the last three weeks. It's there for FUTURE projects too. So feel free to join up. Send an email to: eda-project-request@smoe.org and put ONLY the word subscribe in the body of the email. If anyone wants back copies of the digests for this list, email me PRIVATELY and I'll show you how to easily order up back disgests. (they are small, won't take you too long to catch up :) Mike * The Jewel Mailing List Netiquette & New Member Guide is at: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup * * If you are new to the list and need someone to guide you * please check out the "Adopt A Newbie" page at: * http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/3079/newbies.html * * If you have list related questions, feel free to email me * at Ducksoup@spectra.net * * DuckofPrey@aol.com WhyADuck55 on AOL Instant Messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 14:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: kartalst@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU Subject: hello from your Greek Poet Chyck Dear Angels, I LOVE YOU ALL SO MUCH! How can I possibly express the love I have for all of you properly? It seems that all words are such understatements. The past five weeks, since I left for Boston, have been a great many things: memorable, monumental, hard, aggrivating, lonely, incredible, loving, inspiring, and absolutely amazing. I have done things that I never thought I would do, and I met people that I never would have otherwise met. Also, just when I didn't think it was possible to feel any more strength from all of you or any more love, I was bathed in it constantly, from the time I gave everybody at Tammy & Rob's their "goodbye" hugs (yes...multiple...I think I ended up giving everyone about a trillion hugs goodbye before I left). I have missed each and every one of you more than I think anyone can really imagine. In the past 9 months, you have come to mean more to me than just a bunch of people I get emails from and just a group of music lovers who I hang out with. You are my best friends. You are my family. You are the people who have supported me, my soul, my dreams, and my greatest love-my writing-from the very beginning. You have shown me the meaning of unconditional love and caring. And you have opened your souls, your homes, and your arms to me no matter what. No one can ever hold a place in my life quite like the place all of you hold, as EDAs and as individual angels. I love you all so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I really really miss your hugs. (Do you know that I have gotten ONE hug and only one hug in the past five weeks? thanks, Bill...i love you...) Some really interesting things have happened to me these past few weeks that I never really imagined I would experience. Let's see...I drove all the way up to Boston in a car that was ready to break down, I drove through downtown Boston in that same car, moved myself into and out of an apartment, learned about living with three single bachelors in their 20 somethings (and these guys I was living with...well...they were every single negative stereotype about the single guy in that age group), I accepted the kindness of strangers and stayed at the house of some random chyck I met, I stayed in a youth hostel where I met a couple of old people that look like they are RIGHT OUT OF THE ADAMS FAMILY (they were so cool, you'd have to see them...though this youth hostel was a scary place), I squatted the same you; hostel for a little while, I made a new friend from Switzerland and two from Sweden, I began reading at Poetry Slams, I slept in my car, I even slept in a church basement, and I stayed with Bill Bartholomew and his roomates who are the EXACT OPPOSITE of the guys I originally was going tolive with. Sufficed toosay, Bill and his roomates are nice, curteous, friendly, clean, neat, and really AWESOME people. I adored them!!!!! Tomorrow, finally, I move into my house. My new roomates are really wonderful people, all net addicts like me, and all really artsy folk. I think they are ready to jup at any chance to have a LR Tour stop at the house if any become available. =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) =) (Oh, Tammy, when I went for my final interview at this house, it was a brunch-interview, AND THEY SERVED BRIE!!!!!) Things are finding their happy ending. I have learned so much since I came here, like that if there is ever anything that I want to do, I *will* do it and I *will* find a way to make things good and happy. I have also started toearn to rely on other people (something I am so horrrible at). I could NOT have made it this far without all of the help I have gotten from Albert, Bill, and all of you. I have also learned, yet again, that there is NO ONE in this world like an EDA. No one shows as much care and concern. No one else has loved me the way you have all loved me. =) I LOVE YOU ALL SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Getting your prayers and well wishes has meant more to me than anything. The past 5 weeks have been rocky, they have also been incredible, and I know that there is no way I would have kept up such strength and such a will to fight through the yucky times without all of your support. I have felt it in every inch of my being and continue to feel it. No matter how lonely I have felt for stability and for all of you and hugs and smiles, I never felt alone. You have all been my angels and all continue to be my angels. Thank you for everything you have done. Thank you for the support you constantly give me. Thank you for your love, thank you for being you. I love you all more than any of you can imagine. And I miss you so much and CAN NOT WAIT to give all of you such huge long amazing hugs. i love you all stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 11:23:22 -0700 From: Elspeth LeForce Subject: JEWELry Can someone tell me more about the JEWELry project? Also, Is jewel going to have another Jewelstock anytime soon? Please get back to me wiht your answers? _ Elspeth (The cat lover angel) ^^@/~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:49:40 -0400 From: "THERESA M. DODSON" Subject: sorry to post sorry to post but I don't understand why people can't. i love to get mail and meet new poeple alot of you should too.. Jewel Rules ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 15:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Michele Gallagher Subject: Jewel in W magazine I don't know if anyone reads W magazine but there is a very beautiful picture of Jewel in this month's issue from the MTV awards. In the article, it talks about the fashion do's and don'ts from the awards and they said that Jewel was definitely a do. For anyone that doesn't know, W is a fashion magazine. It is really large and I don't know that they sell it in very many stores but they may sell it in larger bookstores like Borders and Barnes and Noble. Just thought you might like to know. Love, Michele ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 14:24:46 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com Subject: A Little Problem.... ok, my computer was down...and now it's fixed, and i imported my old juno account and thee seem to be one problem, yesterday i went to retrieve my e-mail and i got all the posts of the Jewel list like always, BUT today i went to check my mail and i got the digest version and well, what's wrong here?? * margaret * hyper *angel* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 16:21:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Elizab8637@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Only Jewel, JEWELry, and Advice Ok, I'm really sorry - I wrote that before I thought about it. I'm very sorry - - I hope you understand. Chrissy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 16:32:10 -0700 From: joe Subject: Re: Only Jewel, JEWELry, and Advice Elizab8637@aol.com wrote: > > Ok, first of all, I think that we should just talk about Jewel; she is our > one link. If we didn't want to talk about Jewel or get help on finding her > info., then we wouldn't have become an EDA. > Second of all, what's the Jewelry project? ChrissyI don't believe that joining this list automatically makes you an EDA...and just loving Jewel, and her music doesn't make you an EDA...An EDA is something special..Not just another newsgroup! The list does help people learn more stuff about Jewel, and it does discuss Jewel, but its more than just that. Its a conglomerate of wonderful people from all over the world who have several things in common, our love for Jewel, our love for eachother, and our love for everyone else (among other things). So many people have benefited over this list, and saying that the list can only have stuff to do with Jewel, would have eliminated things like the fundraisers for various things, it would eliminate most of the talk on the Lilith Fair tour, it would eliminate all the new and upcoming artists that are so wonderful, and deserve to be recognized. Jewel herself was once one of these 'less-known' artists. Not many of us had ever even heard of Jewel before WWSYS. Some of us knew her from the Innerchange days and other things, but we really can't say that being an EveryDay Angel means that we can only discuss Jewel. Sure, Jewel should be a huge topic on the list, but other things take priority. I would give up every bit of angelfood and everything I know and love about Jewel just to help people. If this list ever goes to ONLY JEWEL, I'll be the first to leave, and I promise I will never wear an EDA item again, because I'm not here to praise and glorify Jewel, I'm here because I'm an EveryDay Angel, so be careful with me, cuz I'd like to stay that way.. joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:41:30 +0100 From: "Ben or Tom Hall" Subject: Kiss Your Ass Hi Everyone! It's me again - Tom Hall! I am just going to ask: does anyone have or know the words to Kiss Your Ass? Also, does anyone have a copy of it that they can send me? I will pay anything for it! OK, not anything, but I'll pay for the p&p! It is my favourite Jewel song after I heard it on the Jewel Sound Only page! It rocks! Also, if anyone has any tabs for it I will be happy to know! Please reply! BYE! Tom Hall The Everyday Angel Who'd Like To Stay That Way "The savages are upon me and I feel my flesh burn beneath the teeth of their indifference" - Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 97 15:01:02 CDT From: "Jay C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Face of Love If this is the same song that she sang a duet w/Lenedra on, I really like it. I never noticed any similarities to IWALY, but I'm kind of slow with connections sometimes. I don't care what anyone said about it, I like it. I decided not to make a seperate post to state my position on the NJC topic. I personally like getting mail, even if it's content means nothing to me. It makes me feel popular :o). Anyways, by complaining about it, it's like posting flyers all over that state that there is way to much unnessacary advertising and wasted paper. If anyone feels like flaming anyone about NJC, please send that comment to me instead. I have my asbestos suit ready to go. Besides, it might warm up the cold pizza that I'm eating. Jay Johnson the equialteral "fireproof" try-angel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 16:12:19 -0400 From: Seth Fulmer Subject: NJC: Recent list happenings Hello all! Ok, I've noticed two basic trends of posts on this list in the past weeks...both occuring at the same time. First of all, I've noticed people criticizing others for their opinion. Second, I've noticed people coming on the list and asking questions whose answers could easily be found on Mike's page("http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup"). About the criticizing other's opinions, that is in essence hipocrasy. I'm not telling you not to do it, but if one needs to excercise one's right to opinion, do it in a polite way. Someone very wise once said "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to my death your right to say it". You have as much right to state your opinion that you disagree with the other person as the other person has to state his own opinion. However state it in a polite way so as not to offend him/her or others. I enjoy seeing Non Jewel content very much. I am the sort of person that sits back at a party and watches the social structures unfold. It's quite amusing sometimes. If all we talked about was Jewel, I'm willing to bet that the list quota would be incredibly reduced. But then, I'd have to join other mailing lists. There are days I come home from my job in the evenings at 4:30/5/5:30 PM, check my email, and it really makes my day to see an angel tell a story about a concert experience, or even a problem/luck with a significant other(i.e. boyfriend/girlfriend). But it bothers me when I see people using harsh words with each other just because one person thinks that another person doesn't know what they're talking about, or they disagree on their choice of music. Who cares if someone doesn't know what they're talking about?...and Everyone has the freedom of choice...This is a democracy anyway. Anyways, I think you all get my drift :) Please be more polite in the future when expressing your opinions =) Thank you very much! :) Ok, onto the 2nd issue(this should be shorter than the last)...I've noticed that people were coming on the list and asking questions like "What is _____(fill in the blank)?", or demanding Angelfood, or even asking what angelfood is yet. What I propose to solve this problem is(if it's ok with everyone) every 2 weeks, or even Month sending a post through either all three lists, or through Jewel-Announce telling about the Nettiquette page("http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup"), and requesting that if anyone hasn't read through it, that they do it ASAP. In order to make this more effective, I'm requesting that nobody respond to any person's request for knowledge about a specific term unless it's not on the webpage. I do not mean this in any disrespect :) The reason I'm requesting this course of action is because I spent 3 hours perusing Mike's site the night before I subscribed. I waited a week or two before sending a message just to make sure that I didn't make a fool of myself, and in that time, what I didn't remember from the website, I learned through deductive reasoning and through reading the posts. Obviously one can't possibly find out about all the inside jokes, but for terms like EDA, NJC, and even Angelfood, those are easily accessible from other sources. Ok, I've used up enough bandwidth. I apologize if this letter has offended anybody :) Privately email me if you require to vent your opinion, but please do it politely :) Thank you for your time. Have a nice day! :) Seth Fulmer A.K.A. "The Angel that thinks too much" mailto:usfulmer@mcs.drexel.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 22:20:16 +0100 From: "Ben or Tom Hall" Subject: Why All The Arguments? Hi Everyone! Please don't flame me about this message like you did to poor Angela... Ok, here I go! All of these arguments about too much content in this EDA list are really annoying me. I know I am adding to it but well, I have to say this! Before I joined the EDAs I surfed the net and found quite a few mailing lists. The one I chose was this one, because it was advertised as a bunch of friedns who like Jewel who all have the list in common! Thats why I joined it 0 FRIENDS! Now, this is not friendly at the moment. A lot of you flamed poor Angela for just stating her opinion. Angela has done a lot for me since I became an EDA. She has sent me Angelfood, and we have been chatting about loads of things. Now Angela is my best-EDA-friend! She is so nice to me, and that's what I thought the EDAs were all about. If you want less NJC letters join the News version of the list. If you don't even want that then you should find one of the other Jewel lists and go there. It's your choice. If you don't like it, leave! its simple! Anyway, that's my moan over! BYE! Tom Hall The Everyday Angel Who'd Like To Stay That Way "The savages are upon me and I feel my flesh burn beneath the teeth of their indifference" - Jewel ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #810 ***************************