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jewel-digest       Thursday, September 18 1997       Volume 02 : Number 756



                               Today's Subjects:
                               -----------------
  Re: Pieces of You--Explicit Lyrics?!?      [pres2@juno.com (Phillip brady)]
  Re: silly little rumor                                 [KNicky3116@aol.com]
  YWMFM                                    [Joanne <sieglinde@geocities.com>]
  NJC: Sarah & Suzanne                   [deanorez@juno.com (Gerard D Perez)]
  Re: MOPGGTW and more                                   [GroovyLime@aol.com]
  school, last time i prommise               [pres2@juno.com (Phillip brady)]
  OPRAH HOUSE!                     [eloprego@juno.com (Elizabeth A Proegler)]
  Re: MOPGGTW and more                 [James McGarry <jmcgarry@uoguelph.ca>]
  little sister                               [kilcher@juno.com (jenny herb)]
  HOW TO SING THE BLUES                       [Dan Stark <danstark@MNSi.Net>]
  Re: A couple of Chart statistics and a question.  ["Chris Groves" <cmgrove]
  Cancel                                                 [HaNgTeN909@aol.com]
  Re: little sister                                        [Lucky997@aol.com]
  Cancel                                                 [HaNgTeN909@aol.com]
  about explicit lyrics                                   [Ac21Paris@aol.com]
  Well I thought she IS dyslexic                         [Juliet7635@aol.com]
  Frisbee Incedent?                      [Ryan Hester <nhester@planttel.net>]
  need angel name                       [Thomas A Baas <tombaas@csd.uwm.edu>]
  MTV unplugged                                 [c645690@showme.missouri.edu]
  Re: For the last time   (?)       [the emperor of smurfs <peaches@dma.org>]
  Re: Why is it shameful to be a Jewel fan?  [Hanan Javaid <haj@acpub.duke.e]
  Re: Pieces of You--Explicit Lyrics?!?                   [Cisalpine@aol.com]
  Re: Why is it shameful to be a Jewel fan?               [Wimbley83@aol.com]
  Jewel's Horse                                          [Hrgigerfan@aol.com]
  Under The Water and Quiet Warrior      [Ryan Hester <nhester@planttel.net>]
  AOL subscribers - you ARE missing some of today's Jewel mail  [Mike Connel]

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:16:48 DST
From: pres2@juno.com (Phillip brady)
Subject: Re: Pieces of You--Explicit Lyrics?!?

I just got my bmg thing yesterday and it sure does have a thingy by
jewel. but what really gets me is that i was reading through it and guess
what THERE IS NO THING BY GWAR!!!! that just gets on my nervs!!
Phillip<God gives every bird his food. he just doesn't deliver it
directly to the nest.

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997 17:44:58 -0400 notthedoctor@juno.com (Scott A Michau)
writes:
>	What is wrong with saying faggot in a song???  It's not 
>profanity or anything.

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:49:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: KNicky3116@aol.com
Subject: Re: silly little rumor

I hope it wasn't Jewel's horse cause I know how much she loves them. (so do
I)  I hope it's not true.

- -Nicole the horsey angel

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:56:27 -0700
From: Joanne <sieglinde@geocities.com>
Subject: YWMFM

Carl:

	I've heard that version before!  It's on the Now2 CD.  I didn't 
like it as much as the single version, and it definately threw me off 
when she skipped "Dreams last for so long, even after you're gone".  
However, that's the first version my sister heard, and she likes it 
better.  

Joanne
- -- 
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   J   OO    AA   N   N  N   N  EEEEE
   J  O  O  A  A  NN  N  NN  N  E
   J  O  O  AAAA  N N N  N N N  EEEEE
J  J  O  O  A  A  N  NN  N  NN  E
 J J   OO   A  A  N   N  N   N  EEEEE

http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8127
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:04:21 -0700
From: deanorez@juno.com (Gerard D Perez)
Subject: NJC: Sarah & Suzanne

For those interested in Sarah and Suzanne...

September 21 SARAH MCLACHLAN & SUZANNE VEGA
                     - Highlights From Lilith Fair 
                     http://www.liveconcerts.com
                     3:30pm PST

Sincerely,
Ripiano

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 15:44:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: GroovyLime@aol.com
Subject: Re: MOPGGTW and more

In a message dated 97-09-18 14:52:52 EDT, you write:

<<a transcript of the
explaination for MOPGGTW?  I have a .ra file, but it is so garbled 
<<

what in the world?? heehee, im lost here....whats this acronym stand for?
imagonnaguess.. Messy Ostridge, Please Go Gobble Timmys Wonderbra .......yeah
thats it!???
thanx man for enlighening me

groove on aglide!!
- -=steve

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:14:51 DST
From: pres2@juno.com (Phillip brady)
Subject: school, last time i prommise

since i made my last post people have been asking me why i asked for your
age. its for a school prodject called 'age on the internet' this isnt the
net but close enough!
p.s. keep sending them in, i need as many ages as i can get!
Phillip<God gives every bird his food. he just doesn't deliver it
directly to the nest.

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:23:51 -0400
From: eloprego@juno.com (Elizabeth A Proegler)
Subject: OPRAH HOUSE!

Hey all you EDA's! I know that this channel thing is supposed to be for
Jewel, only, but I think this is a really worthy thing. Plus, it is an
angel thing! Here's the deal: 

Oprah is collecting change to educate a lot of kids. They are also going
to be building houses. Oprah's Angel Network is what it is called. Save
your change, and I will let you know where the collection thing in your
city is. Also, if you want to help build a house, send a postcard to:

Build An Oprah House
P.O. Box 81888
Chicago, IL 60681

On it, put your name, address, phone number, and the "Call Numbers" of
you station (like WSYX tv). If you live out of the U.S., or your city
doesn't get Oprah (a daytime show), you can send me a check, I will cash
it, and put it in the Oprah fund in my city. E-mail me for more
information (eloprego@juno.com). 

					* Liz, the love angel of Ohio

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:40:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: James McGarry <jmcgarry@uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Re: MOPGGTW and more

On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 GroovyLime@aol.com wrote:
> explaination for MOPGGTW?  I have a .ra file, but it is so garbled 
<snip> 
> what in the world?? heehee, im lost here....whats this acronym stand for?

Its a Jewel song, "My Own Private God's Gift to Women". One of my
favourites...

James.
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James McGarry				| jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA
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An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. 
- - John Ruskin
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:42:39 DST
From: kilcher@juno.com (jenny herb)
Subject: little sister

i was wondering if little sister is about drugs or sex. i know its
probably about drugs because the spill the pills line but were she says
you went to mr. so and so's said you needed it bad. that could refer to
drugs OR sex. i just LOVE figuring out jewels lyrics don't my heart?
ohh... that's hilarious!! i'm listening to fg and she just said       
"your breaking my heart" and i accidently typed it while i was singing
along! i think ill leave that! hahaha!
jennifer< The angel in the mist. (what do you think of that name?)

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:01:47 -0400
From: Dan Stark <danstark@MNSi.Net>
Subject: HOW TO SING THE BLUES

Are ya feelin a little low down. Here are some points on How To Sing the
Blues

>
> 1. Most blues begin "woke up this morning."
>
> 2. "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the blues, unless you stick

> something nasty in the next line.
>
>      I got a good woman--
>      with the meanest dog in town.
>
> 3. Blues are simple. After you have the first line right, repeat it. Then
> find
> something that rhymes. Sort of.
>
>      Got a good woman
>      with the meanest dog in town.
>      He got teeth like Margaret Thatcher
>      and he weighs about 500 pounds.
>
> 4. The blues are not about limitless choice.
>
> 5. Blues cars are Chevies and Cadillacs. Other acceptable blues
> transportation
> is Greyhound bus or a southbound train. Walkin' plays a major part in the

> blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die.
>
> 6. Teenagers can't sing the blues. Adults sing the blues. Blues adulthood

> means old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.
>
> 7. You can have the blues in New York City, but not in Brooklyn or
Queens.
> Hard times in Vermont or North Dakota are just a depression.  Chicago,
St.
> Louis and Kansas City are still the best places to have the blues.
>
> 8. The following colors do not belong in the blues:
>         a. violet
>         b. beige
>         c. mauve
>
> 9.  You can't have the blues in an office or a shopping mall, the
lighting
> is
> wrong.
>
> 10. Good places for the Blues:
>      a. the highway
>      b. the jailhouse
>      c. the empty bed
>
>     Bad places for the Blues
>      a. Ashrams
>      b. Gallery openings
>      c. weekend in the Hamptons
>
> 11.  No one will believe it's the blues if you wear a suit, unless you
> happen
> to be an old black man.
>
> 12.  Do you have the right to sing the blues?
>
>      Yes, if:
>      a. your first name is a southern state--like Georgia
>      b. you're blind
>      c. you shot a man in Memphis.
>      d. you can't be satisfied.
>
>      No, if:
>      a. you were once blind but now can see.
>      b. you're deaf
>      c. you have a trust fund.
>
> 13. Neither Julio Iglesias nor Barbra Streisand can sing the blues.
>
> 14. If you ask for water and baby gives you gasoline, it's the blues.
>      Other blues beverages are:
>      a. wine
>      b. Irish whiskey
>      c. muddy water
>      d. one bourbon, one scotch and one beer
>
>     Blues beverages are NOT:
>      a. Any mixed drink
>      b. Any wine kosher for Passover
>      c. Yoo Hoo (all flavors)
>
> 15. If it occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's blues death.
> Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is a blues way to die. So is the
> electric chair, substance abuse, or being denied treatment in an
emergency
> room.
>
> It is not a blues death if you die during a liposuction treatment.
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Date: 18 Sep 97 21:38:01 +0100
From: "Chris Groves" <cmgroves@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: A couple of Chart statistics and a question.

> and my question is appertaining to the UK release of "You Were Meant For Me".
> 
> Having persuaded a friend today (via use of "Cold Song") that he could
> really do with a copy of the single, I accompanied him to buy it, and when
> he got it, the CD was different to the one I had bought!
> 
> It's the same track listing (but not the same CD time - the copy he bought
> is 2 seconds longer, which I presume is just track lead-in) but as far as I
> know it isn't a re-issue.
> 
> My CD is blue with gold writing
> His   is white with black writing
> 
> Having asked another friend who I bought "YWMFM" for (several weeks ago, I
> never looked at the CD), he confirmed that his too was white. The two CDs
> were bought in the same week (the week of release here)... so WHY THE TWO
> VERSIONS?!
> 
> Any help would be appreciated!

Just to confuse things, I know of three different versions!

The white CD, total length 6:39, Made in Germany

Blue CD with gold writing, length 6:39, Made in Germany

Blue CD with gold writing (it's actually a different shade of
blue - purple? - and has a more glossy finish to the one above),
length 6:37, Made in UK

However the 3 tracks are the same on all three.



Chris.

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:42:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: HaNgTeN909@aol.com
Subject: Cancel

Cancel subscription for HaNgTeN909

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:39:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lucky997@aol.com
Subject: Re: little sister

hey angels-
  i read somewhere that little sister was about a friend's little brother,
who was addicted to drugs. she made the song little sister because she didn't
to embarass him. : ) melissa

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:58:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: HaNgTeN909@aol.com
Subject: Cancel

cancel subscription for Gap103@AOL.com

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:31:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ac21Paris@aol.com
Subject: about explicit lyrics 

Hi Guys,
I think that the explicit lyrics are the poems in the leaflet in Pieces of
You, with words like "swapping penis size " in LEAVING LAS VEGAS, 
Don t you people think that?
See Ya
Anderson 
The French Angel in PARIS, France

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:46:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Juliet7635@aol.com
Subject: Well I thought she IS dyslexic

OK,
  Guys I'm dyslexic, and if Jewel is or was, only makes me admire her more.
Does anyone know for sure? See I thought she was. It doesn't really matter,
just maybe we have some common ground.

    Thank you bunches!!!
          -Juliet, The Angel In Training    {\o/}
                                             /_\ 

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:56:49 -0400
From: Ryan Hester <nhester@planttel.net>
Subject: Frisbee Incedent?

I was taking a look around the "Pieces of Jewel" webpage a while ago and 
I saw a picture of Jewel on stage (HFStival) playing and a frisbee 
flying in the air. It said the picture was a bad incident or something? 
Did it hit her? I had never heard about this! Could someone please 
explain privately?

    Ryan

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:51:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Thomas A Baas <tombaas@csd.uwm.edu>
Subject: need angel name

Okay...I was gonna be Sensitive Angel, but that's already taken I guess.
Can somebody think of an angel name for me? I'm a 19 yr old student at
UW-Milwaukee majoring in Elementary Ed./Early Childhood, love kids, love
pets, love the Grateful Dead, & write poetry.
- -Tom

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:32:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: c645690@showme.missouri.edu
Subject: MTV unplugged

Does anyone have the Jewel special, MTV unplugged?  Thank you in advanced
for replying.  

Peter Ji, M.A.	
University of Missouri-Columbia	
Doctoral Student, Counseling Psychology
c645690@showme.missouri.edu

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:34:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: the emperor of smurfs <peaches@dma.org>
Subject: Re: For the last time   (?)

> Ok, I was looking for Jewel stuff at CDUniverse @ http://www.cduniverse.com
> and there's an album there for like $6 or something called "For the Last
> Time". 

the gang at cd universe has made this same mistake many times :(

"for the last time" is a release from the rap singer Jewell (with that
notorious second "l")

it is not a release by our Jewel Kilcher.
you can tell if something is an official release by Jewel Kilcher if it
is released on Atlantic.  of course there is an exception to every rule.
the exception in this case is that if a Jewel song is on a compilation
disc, the compilation most likely won't be on Atlantic

but for cd singles etc. they will be released on Atlantic :)

peace,

dave
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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:42:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hanan Javaid <haj@acpub.duke.edu>
Subject: Re: Why is it shameful to be a Jewel fan?

i am a jewel fan and proud of it, i feel no shame at all in letting the 
world know i listen to jewel and im a guy too. but i might feel shame in 
listening to jewel if she was a murderer and a witch with plans to 
destroy our world. but she's not like that and that is good.

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:14:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cisalpine@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pieces of You--Explicit Lyrics?!?

I talked to a guy at Fred Meyer about the xplicit lyrics thing, and I'm not
sure he was right baout this, but he sounded like he knew what he was talking
about.  He said that the explicit lyrics thing is not based on swear words
unless there is a ridiculous amount of them.  Rather, it is about the content
or message in the lyrics.  He mentioned Pieces Of You, for example.  It talks
about beating a faggots brain in, and hating a jew's kids.  Granted, she does
not condone these things.  Rather, she speaks against them, but the guy's
point is that the warning is there because the content is there and the idea
is there.  And I could see how a little kid could take that song the wrong
way.  It doesn't specifically speak against those things.  It says "you say
he's a faggot, do you want to kick in his brain"  now her point is that the
people that hate them do so because they are afraid that they might be the
same way deep down, in her words they might be "pieces of you". but a little
kid doesn't know that. the little kid hears that someone wants to kick in
someone's brain because they are a faggot.  Anyways, that's what I think this
whole explicit lyrics thing is about. Anyone agree/disagree?

Craig  the unbound Angel

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:05:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Wimbley83@aol.com
Subject: Re: Why is it shameful to be a Jewel fan?

I don't even bring up the subject of music around my friends.  They all like
the really alternative stuff...And that's okay.  We all have different
tastes.  I don't even mind (in fact I sometimes LIKE) alternative music, but
after a while it bugs the crap outta me.  I can't even listen to the whole CD
w/o getting annoyed.  I'm sure that there isn't more than 5 guys at my school
w/ PoY.  And that's alright, their missing out on it, not me.

Ry@n

P.S.- I just got the response back from D'Addario and it seems as though
they've got more Jewel posters.

<< my friends think that I am obsessed to .. but it is worse for me because I
am
 a guy.... I am sure you all saw my other posting so I am not going to repeat
 all that happens to me... about her.. and her picture being on my binder (
 wich bye the way.... all of her pictures look so cool.. one of my friends..
 she gave me this one.. and it was black and white and Jewel had daisys in
her
 hair.. but it got wet.. and I had to throw it away i was really sad )....
but
 I just want you to know that you are not alone Karen... >>

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hrgigerfan@aol.com
Subject: Jewel's Horse

Hello EDA's

I dont know about you guys, but I would be devistated if one of my animals
died.  No jokes here, I really love my dog and cat, if they were to die, I
wouldn't feel like playing in front of a screaming audience either.  I
wouldn't have very good concentration to play either.  So if she doesn't play
because of her horse, maybe have a little more sympathy.  She will probably
reschedual the concert.  (hopefully)
Later.

Jeremy  

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 17:59:21 -0400
From: Ryan Hester <nhester@planttel.net>
Subject: Under The Water and Quiet Warrior

Does anyone have live versions of "Under the Water" and "Quiet Warrior" 
on angelfood? If so let me know privately. Thanks.

       Ryan

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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:20:59 -0400
From: Mike Connell <ducksoup@spectra.net>
Subject: AOL subscribers - you ARE missing some of today's Jewel mail

Hey folks,

Thursday, September 18

If you don't subscribe to the list on an America Online account, this email
does not pertain to you, but it does show where to find Jewel digests
online :)

AOL was updating something early this morning (I'll refrain from a joke
here :) and while they were, TONS of Jewel list mail bounced back to me
that was intended for many of you folks. (maybe 15 posts, but but I got ALL
of them back for many, if not most AOL subscribers on the loose
mail/regular jewel@smoe list) This does not apply to digest subscribers, as
digest #755 came in the afternoon.

So, in order for you to get this email back (in digest form), I'm going to
show you how to order up the digest it all appears in. To get the digest
this email is in, you'll have to send an email to:

  majordomo@smoe.org

and have ONLY in the BODY of the email the following command:

  get jewel-digest v02.n755

Make sure it's EXACTLY as shown above.

It does not matter what you have in the SUBJECT of the email. 

Send that in and the list server will send you digest #755. 

If you wish to read it online (the web), just enter this as an AOL keyword
or just go to the address:   

http://www.smoe.org/lists/jewel/archives/v02.n755

To get the list of ALL 1997 Jewel digests, go to:
http://www.smoe.org/lists/jewel/archives/


Mike :)

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