From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #609 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, July 28 1997 Volume 02 : Number 609 Today's Subjects: ----------------- JC: CDNOW DOUBLE [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] JC: Jewel Posters [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] SJC: Two CD's for sale..if you guess this// [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E ] LRT in Lancaster County!!!!!! [Horter3@aol.com] EJC:Ok...we need to have a talk and here is the talk. [That Little Voice ] NJC : List content PLEASE READ: Re: From Alan To the ENTIRE LIST [rickbo] newbieage ["Robert Alexander Vaughen" ] Re: NJC fav quotes [jonny22@webtv.net (Jon Miller)] [none] [owner-jewel@smoe.org] EDAC: hope! ["Nathan" ] positivity; angelfood [jonny22@webtv.net (Jon Miller)] NJC Disregard unnecessary conflicts [sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Ever] Question [Fons Taddic ] hey, when was this? [Leftychic@aol.com] newbie ["Karen Boysen" ] Sunday Morning [BenFrancis@webtv.net (Ben Simpelo)] Re: Animated greeting card arrived! [ANDYMAN878@aol.com] ATTENTION!! ALL EDA'S READ THIS. DO NOT DELETE THIS. THIS CONCERNS THE LIST [Romeo875@aol] LC: Thanks to all [Crash Boy ] [NJC] [LC] on the proper use of "NJC" [tiltedhalo@juno.com (Tom Harris)] [NJC] [LC] [EDAC] [TMAITSC] on acceptance... [tiltedhalo@juno.com (Tom H] The List [shallowend@asan.com] Harbor Lights show [mmilner@edgenet.net (matthew milner)] Re: SJC: Two CD's for sale..if you guess this// [Linda the Every Day Ange] Camden Lilith Fair [Antichrist Superstar ] to many njc posts [Jewelfan1@aol.com] Re: Animated greeting card arrived! [Chimebell@aol.com] Re: Can I just say something? *NJC* [bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate)] Re: NJC: I'm Feeling Better, But I Got Something To Say! [bedo7@juno.com ] NJC: Kinnie Starr [James McGarry ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:44:22 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: JC: CDNOW DOUBLE Ok, there is somethng seriuosly wrong with my computer.....I was going to cdnow.com and it started to load i was planning on buying that Jewel Double thingie everyone was talking about...BUT right in the middle of the loading it stopped and i got a Dr.Watson thingie that said there was an error....i was like oh what the hell! i'll just load it again...i did and the same thing happened...does any one konw a place on the net where i can get the double except cdnow?? * Margaret * Hyper * Angel * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:49:21 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: JC: Jewel Posters Ok, this is for the people living in or around the Chicago area.....Do any of you know where the closest used CD store around here??? Thanx........ :( I'm feeling really down.....My life really sucks.... * Margaret * Hyper * Angel * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:49:48 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: SJC: Two CD's for sale..if you guess this// Ok, I'm turning into Timothy here but I really have to get rid of these two CD's..... Cardigans ~ First Band On The Moon Green Day ~ Insominiac Ok, here go the two questions; Jewel did this in High School ( i think ) it involves her name...... In what 'Friends' episode did they play 'With Or Without You' by U2?? The first person to guess the first question correctly gets one CD if you guess both correctly, you get both.... * Margaret * Hyper * Angel * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:00:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Horter3@aol.com Subject: LRT in Lancaster County!!!!!! Well, the rumours are true..... And here's the post y'all have been waiting for.... YIPPEEE!!!!!! Selena will be hosting a date on the fabulous Living Room Tour on August 3. The admission will be the same as all the others, $10. Cheap at twice the price!!!! The show will be in one of two places: at Selena's apartment in Leola, or at some friends' place in Lititz. (If you don't know where these places are, get out your Atlas!! :-) Showtime is unknown at the moment, but should be forthcoming soon. All are welcome!!! Every square foot of personally installed carpet will be at your disposal!!! If you're interested, let us know (at Horter3@aol.com). We'll be providing directions as soon as we figure out the venue. Tee hee. Oh.....riddle riddle. Tom and The Martins (Selena's family) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:53:00 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: EJC:Ok...we need to have a talk and here is the talk. Ok, I'll make it proper leftDear EDAs, =20 left As you all know, I am on the list. Recently, I've notice certain people on the list sending hate mail to others, because of certain views on many different subjects. This needs to be stopped immediately, or the list may be shut down, many others will leave, and the list will just be destroyed, this is our chance, EDAs to do something! =20 Many angels are being cruelly treated, just because they have posted=20 their thoughts on issues, just little things such as: music, and sometimes happy posts, that certain people do not enjoy as much as the person who has written them. I also would like to include, if it has been said one time, it has been said enough, "Think before you post." Think, "Are they going to like what you say?" "Are someones feelings=20 going to be hurt in the process?" "How would I feel if another angel on the list =20 said this to me?". =20 I know, many of you angels are saying, yeah right, no one is going to listen to this post, but you CAN! One person makes all the difference, once you show how much you care about others feelings, people will begin to jump on the band wagon. Oh, and yes, I know, that you are saying, what about the people still doing this? They are going to continue. "What do I do next time they are rude or cruel to one of my fellow angels?" Well,=20 here is your answer, be nice to them! People who dislike your ideas, or just you in particular hate it when you are nice to them, but, you don't go and decide to stoop to their level, and send them a cruel e-mail telling them how mean they are! Come on angels, here is our chance, our chance to change some of the ways on the list, let's work together on this one. We can do it! Love You Till I Split Open And Melt, =20 Lora =20 Times New Roman _______________________________________________________ =AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB= =A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4= =BB=A5=AB=A4=BB =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Be Here Now _______________________________________________________ =AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB= =A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4= =BB=A5=AB=A4=BB =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:48:39 -0400 From: rickbond Subject: NJC : List content PLEASE READ: Re: From Alan To the ENTIRE LIST Jonders wrote: > Hello All!!! > > I posted this "letter" before, a while back...i don't think most > people > read it...i ask again that you read it and take in > consideration...this > list is a good thing...amongst all that is wrong in the world...this > is > something that is very right...don't, DO NOT let it slip away...take > the > time to read my post... The above is just a small clip of the big message this individual wrote. I just want to say, Boy this person is impressive. Pretty darn smart heh? :) Great message though. I was actually able to follow it the second time through. :) Take Care Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:09:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert Alexander Vaughen" Subject: newbieage I just want to ask for any assistance someone feels like giving. - -sometimes in the shallows of the person arrise the strongest veins of worth..RAV ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:16:20 -0400 From: jonny22@webtv.net (Jon Miller) Subject: Re: NJC fav quotes I don't know if this thread is over or what, but here's my favorite quote from a song "Reach down your hand in your pocket, pull out some hope for me, it's been a long day always ain't that right." That's from the song Long Day by Matchbox 20. If you don't have their Cd yet I'd highly recommend it. it's great and Rob thomas is a genius as a songwriter. jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:30:49 -0400 From: owner-jewel@smoe.org Subject: [none] Hi everyone, Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Yes, this list and it's digest version IS in danger of folding. (No idea how this would effect Jewel-news, but 99% of the posts to Jewel-news come from Jewel@smoe.org) Some of you may have read a bit on this in an email earlier this evening from Jeff Wasilko. He's the guy that owns the three Jewel lists. They run on his hardware and he pays the bills. I just run two of them on a day-to-day basis. (There's A LOT of work involved for both of us though) I am not at this time going to go into the many reasons WHY this list is in danger of shutting down. Just believe me that it is. Also, some changes do have to be made, and they are mostly basic. I'll get into those, and the reasons why this danger of folding exists in a post within a few days. (One hint though, the *quantity* of daily emails to Jewel@smoe.org HAS to come down.....HAS TO) OK DOWN TO BUSINESS - let's START to save this list NOW :) Jeff Wasilko owns the list as I said. In four separate Emails tonight, one to the list, three to other list members and CC'd to me, Jeff said: 1) "It's shenanigans like that which give me a good reason to accidentally delete the list." 2) "I don't see why the list should exist if bad things like this come out of it." 3) "Given the current situatuation, I'm seeing little alternative to shutting the list down." 4) "I'd like to put the group on notice that this list is within an inch of losing a home." For reasons I won't get into, Jeff is a much busier man these days than in the recent past. He doesn't have the time to deal with a lot of the stuff he used to. (I and a few others have been helping him in this situation) On top of that, he hasn't subscribed to THIS Jewel list for quite a while now. Because of that, he no longer sees *first hand* the GOOD in this list, the family feeling we have, the need we have for each other, the joy many of us get out of this list, how we do like to discuss the main topic of this list....that pretty blonde singer....what's her name?.....oh, yeah....Jewel :) Since he isn't 'visible' either (not making many posts to the list), many don't even know he exists. Thus, most of his list related emails are either complaints or emails enlightening him of list situations that can only cause him further frustrations with this list. So, this is what I want to do to START to save this list. (There is more we'll have to do later) I want EVERY ONE OF YOU who wants to save this list to send ME a private email on what you love about this list and why you want it to continue. Send them here to DuckSoup@spectra.net. You can also say anything to Jeff in this email that you want because I am going to PRINT OUT every one of them and send them to Jeff so he can read them. I do NOT want to send *emails* TO him. He has to read emails at a terminal. I want him to have a booklet to take with him anywhere he wants to to read them...to be able to easily re-read any if he so wishes...to see how many folks would be disappointed should this list fold. Please do NOT send these Emails to the list. These will be private to Jeff and besides, as I said above, the *quantity* of emails to this list HAS to come down. This is a good time to start that trend. Please do this one of two ways, either just hit the ol' reply button/command and write what you want to say and send it, or make the SUBJECT of the email: SAVE THE LIST Either way it will be easier for me to deal with the deluge of email I hope to get :) I love this list and what it has brought to me and many of you, friendships. Jewel loves it to. The fact that she gave THIS LIST Jewelstock and the tapes of that concert, plus other material to trade freely amongst ourselves, exemplifies that. Let's keep it alive :) Email me why you want to save it. Forever your friend, forever your fellow list member/EDA, Mike :) P.S. Due to this latest list 'crisis', I am going to focus my efforts on this "save the list" campaign, so the progress of the Future Folklore tape tree is now on the back burners. P.P.S. Many of you will get multiple copies of this email (2 or 3). For that I apologize, but it had to be done to ensure getting individual copies to everyone on the three versions of the Jewel mailing lists. **** The Jewel Mailing List Netiquette & New Member Guide is at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup Patty Griffin Tour Dates & more is at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm Ducksoup@spectra.net DuckofPrey@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:27:34 -05:0 From: "Nathan" Subject: EDAC: hope! After reading Jeff's post I'm scared of losing something dear to me. This is why I hold it so dear... I posted today about a personal problem. I received so many offers for shoulders to help bear my load, that I just can't imagine not having the EDAs around. I really felt the spirit of this list today for the first time in a few months. Let's keep it alive. Thank you to all who replied. This negative cloud is thinning out from where I sit. Let's keep the air clear. Thanks also to Mike (Wan Connellobi), Alan, Sparks the EDA, Albert, Rachel, Linda, Crunch, Greg, Chris, CABBYBJS (?), Christy, Ronda, Jenny, and anyone else I forgot to mention that's been trying to spread a little love around. It's working. I got a big glob of it in my eye and I couldn't be happier. For the sake of the list and the love we share, stay sensitive, Nathan dogslife@bigfoot.com "Always find a way to call out of another the highest in themselves." - Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:43:09 -0400 From: jonny22@webtv.net (Jon Miller) Subject: positivity; angelfood There's recently been a lot of talk on this list about the negativity. First I'd like to talk about the postivity I've seen recently. 1) The tape bag. A bunch of EDA's getting togther to share their taste in music. This also helps with friendships because we each have a partner to trade with 2) The Bearsville reunion. A year after jewelstock, a bunch of EDA's met in Bearsville, NY just to have fun. Jewel was somewhere in Alaska at the time. I remember the quote "When we joined the list we were fans of Jewel but over time we became fans of each other." Let's not forget this. 3) The poster fraud. yes this was a bad thing, but it had a "silver lining" if you will. The EDA's that got ripped off teamed up, got in touch with culprit and now have a chance, however small it is, to get their money back. I've made at least one new friend from the experience (What's up MikeDreams!) I want to do what I can to help get more positivity on the list. There used to be a time where I couldn't wait to check my mail before going to bed and I want that back. If you've read this far, thanks for your time, and here's what I'll do for you. I'll dub a tape for anyone. The only thing I ask is that when you get it you either a) post something positive, about anything b) ignore a post that you would normally take offense to and flame I have a lot of angelfood so if anyone has a tape in mind that they've really wanted, get in touch with me and it's yours. If you're a newbie or just don't know what you want, I'll see if I can recommend something. Have a good day everyone! Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:51:31 EDT From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: NJC Disregard unnecessary conflicts First of all, I'm glad to see the vets speak up about the problem that's been rising. I'm also glad to see some of the newer members speak. :) I wasn't very aware of it, since I don't go on IRC, or any chat rooms much, but since I know now, I agree with what Mike and Alan have said. We just need to relax a little bit and let some of the bad comments pass by. Don't get so defensive and take offense to it. If you see an ugly argument arising that you know won't do any good, just let it go! Let it go and move on... "'Cause anyone can start a conflict/it's harder yet to disregard it" -- Jewel -- I'm Sensitive I'm sure all of us have heard that before. Take a little time out and think before you do anything that you have even the slightest feeling you'll regret later on. Don't ever let angry emotions blur your kind hearts. Mark - --- Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. - --Jewel "Absence of Fear" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:52:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Fons Taddic Subject: Question Hmm. Hey everybody: Am I a newbie? :blinks innoncently: Fons Taddic - Elvis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:25:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Leftychic@aol.com Subject: hey, when was this? 02... Props to whoever [I'm really sorry, I would have put your name here, but the digest was taking SO much of my space up! :(] did the Jewel Tracy Chapman comparisons! :) Very insightful, very cool, two of my favorite artists in one post -- who could ask for anything more? I didn't read that. . .I'd like to hear it. I know that Jewel was inspired by Tracy Chapman, and did a lot of her covers when she was just starting out...I'd love to hear more. . Kelly "The Up-And-Coming Angel" {\o/} /_\ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:27:26 PDT From: "Karen Boysen" Subject: newbie Hi! My name is Karen Boysen and I joined this list a few weeks ago. I'm 16, I'm from Iowa(where jewel never comes to), I haven't seen her in concert, I play the piano and drums, I love music in general especially Jewel of course. I don't really know what is involved in adopting a newbie program but I am willing to give it a try if anyone is willing and it will make this list a better place to be and keep going. Thanks for reading this and e-mail me because I'm looking forward to making friends on the list!! Karen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:15:23 -0700 From: BenFrancis@webtv.net (Ben Simpelo) Subject: Sunday Morning Hello. Did anybody watched CBS News Sunday Morning? Because it had a segment about Lilith Fair, which also had interviews with Sarah McLachlan, Jewel, and Suzanne Vega. I didn't see it because I had to leave for work. Ben ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:47:10 -0400 (EDT) From: ANDYMAN878@aol.com Subject: Re: Animated greeting card arrived! hey all, although kimmie is goofy, she has the right idea. i've met a lotta great people and learned alot of stuff about jewel on this list, it'd really be a shame to throw it all away. i love you all andyman the crazy but loveable angel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:33:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Romeo875@aol.com Subject: ATTENTION!! ALL EDA'S READ THIS. DO NOT DELETE THIS. THIS CONCERNS THE LIST Hey everyone!! My name is Jeff. I am sort of new to the list, but i have a friend name Erin who has adopted me and is going to show me the ropes around the list. I know that there has been a lot of contraversy about the list not being fun anymore or everyone talking about other stuff than Jewel. I have realized that this is a Jewel list and if you joined it then you must really like jewel. This isnt a movie list unless jewel is in the movie =)..... and it is not a sports list or anything else. We talk about Jewel here. There have been a few people that are saying they are leaving the list. We dont want that. I have heard about the good times the EDA's have had together and would like to keep that going. I know you do to. We need to stick together and work this out. I am willing to work with anyone to help this list stay alive. I hope you all are reading this because i care. I want to belong to this list just as much as the Veterans want to stay belonging to the list. I believe if we keep the mail that doesnt have anything to do with jewel out and stay together as a family we can reach the goal of having the list back to the way it used to be. If you care about anything i have said please email me or the list saying how you feel. Thank you for listening. EDA 4 LIFE Jeff Ingram ~~c /o 98~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:16:53 -0400 From: Crash Boy Subject: LC: Thanks to all hi guys! what's up? i'd like to thank bill, rick, and steve for their kind words about my web page. i really appreciate it. one day, i just thought that it would be nice to start documenting these EDA gatherings that we were having, and learned enough html to make it work. lately, though, it's just been a labor of love. after scanning 167 pics from Rockfest, and sorting through the 53 other pics that Farr sent me, i was wondering if it was all worth it. after all, more than a number of my friends have told me that my web page is just taking up space on the internet. but it is worth it, and bill, rick, and steve's support of it is proof enough of that. thanks guys. :) one last thing: i really wouldn't worry all that much about the list. i'm sure this is all just a result of growing pains, and we'll all get through it, like we've gotten through all the other things in the past. i trust that we'll all make the right decisions. :) well, take care. 'bye! eric :) - -- Crash Boy's EDA Page --- http://thespis.com/crashboy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:52:33 EDT From: tiltedhalo@juno.com (Tom Harris) Subject: [NJC] [LC] on the proper use of "NJC" I originally was writing this as a postscript to a previous message, but it got somewhat involved. "NJC" does not give you permission to say whatever you like. Many others have mentioned the proper and improper use of "NJC" on this list. Well they're all right; if you didn't read every one of them then you should go back and read them immediately. (See the list archives at http://www.smoe.org/lists/jewel/ ) The purpose of "NJC" cannot be overemphasized. Messages by Mike Connell and Dave DiCiccio should be payed special attention. Here's my particular contribution. This list is not for "chatting." This list is specifically for Jewel, fans of Jewel, and subjects relating to or derived from those two subjects. The list is -not- for general discussion. I'm usually able to ignore posts that I'm not especially interested in; but it really ires me when I see someone saying, "I want to talk." or "Is anyone here? Why aren't you talking?" Beside the fact that these posts are specifically said to not be made, but people on the digest form of the list don't recieve these messages until usually three or four hours after they are posted. If you're just looking for someone to chat with, utilize the proper resources of the internet; namely the "Everyday Angels" room for AOL users, and the #jewel room on Undernet for IRC. And I fully support the ICQ, though I have to admit I'm not entirely familiar with it. And if you can't use either of these, just pick out a victi...err, someone from the list, someone who has an interesting quote or mentioned something you have an interest in, to talk to and e-mail them privately. And if you haven't already, "newbie" veteran or "ol' fogey" alike, read the Jewel List Nettiquite Guide at http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/ - - - -- Blessed Be - ---tom "If you don't want your dog to have bad breath, do what I do: Pour a little Lavoris in the toilet." -- Jay Leno ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:45:54 EDT From: tiltedhalo@juno.com (Tom Harris) Subject: [NJC] [LC] [EDAC] [TMAITSC] on acceptance... TMAITSC = "Too Many Acronyms In This Subject Content" I was swimming in a sea of bliss when Mo' Harris spoke... :-> :-> 2) where I DO see a lack in "welcome mats" is online. More than a :-> few new people have IMed me on AOL or written me asking why they :-> can't seem to fit in in AOL chat rooms about Jewel and/or EDAs. (No :-> one has mentioned IRC to me) Now, I really don't frequent the AOL :-> "EveryDay Angels" room like I used to, so I cannot comment first :-> hand on the situation, but logic tells me that just due to the :-> number of folk that have told me they feel this, there must be at :-> least *some* substance to it. :-> It's often awkward to join a conversation already in progress. On a list of this size and daily traffic, it may seem near impossible. Between our use of acronyms, special terms and phrases, and the countless "in" jokes and references to past events, there's not much chance that anyone who isn't aware of our particular context will be able to hold their own on the list. And when they do attempt to break in, they may likely be overlooked -- I've talked to list members who say they delete every message from an address they don't recognize. I'd like to address those reading the list who have felt intimidated and been hesitant to speak up, or have attempted but felt ignored. I'd like to say to you something that a Boy Scout scoutmaster once said to me: "Us old folks are hard of hearing and you're so small we forget about you. Well when that happens you just gotta give us a swift kick in the ass. Don't be afraid to do that -- kick us in the ass -- as you can see, my ass is well padded, you won't hurt us." The truth is, we do tend to not notice newer folks. But I've yet to talk to anyone involved with this list, past or present (or future) who has wanted to be anything but welcoming to newer members of the list. But all the same, don't expect us to give you any special treatment. You're just as subject to the laws of physics on this list as anywhere; I refer specifically to the law of conservation of energy. Like any other endeavour in life, you cannot expect to get any more out of this list than you are willing to put into it. And before I end this message, I'd like to apologise to Veronica. Not for anything I did, but what I didn't do. And that was is I failed to thank her for her apology. The one thing I'd have to say I am most impressed by the EDAs is not their ability to love, not their ability to forgive, but their ability to screw up -- and -learn- from those mistakes. Thank you, Ronnie, now could you next learn to use "NJC" in your posts? ;-) - - - -- Blessed Be - ---tom "Maternity pay? Now every Tom, Dick and Harry will get pregnant." -- Malcolm Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:05:06 -0400 From: shallowend@asan.com Subject: The List ok we have been doing alot of yelling, screaming, crying and finger pointing. In my opion the real and only true problem is the amount of posts. Why are newbies feeling left: They get lost in the amount of posts. Why are list vets sick of the list: There are alot more stupid NJC threads then used to be because there are more members, since there are more members there are more posts. Why is Jeff thinking about shuting down the list: One is the current negative attitude of the list, the other is the amount of traffic, both of these are because of the amount of posts. There are a few people spoiling it for all of us. A few people are posting more than 5 times a day. A few people feel the need to respond to every thread. If you are posting more than once a day, every day, you are ruining the list. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:53:29 -0500 From: mmilner@edgenet.net (matthew milner) Subject: Harbor Lights show Hi EDA's, I'm not new, but I don't post much. I've finally decided I'm going to try to find my way to the Harbor Lights show and was wondering if anyone had a n extra ticket to sell before I buy from Next. I'd rather sit with and EDA than by myself if possible. Also, any one fromthe area able to give any helpful hints to someone new to Rhode Island aboutt anything mail me. Please reply personally since I am still about a month behind on my digests (I don't know what I'd do wjithout the news list to keep me somehat current!) Thanks, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:48:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda the Every Day Angel Subject: Re: SJC: Two CD's for sale..if you guess this// Hehehe i know one answer - Jewel experimented with changing her name to Juel and i dunno the other :) ttyl - -linda On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Margaret E Milsztajn wrote: > Ok, I'm turning into Timothy here but I really have to get rid of these > two CD's..... > Cardigans ~ First Band On The Moon > Green Day ~ Insominiac > Ok, here go the two questions; > Jewel did this in High School ( i think ) it involves her name...... > In what 'Friends' episode did they play 'With Or Without You' by U2?? > The first person to guess the first question correctly gets one CD if you > guess both correctly, you get both.... > * Margaret * Hyper * Angel * > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:42:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Antichrist Superstar Subject: Camden Lilith Fair Tracy Chapman-- very good Joan Osbourne-- sucked Cardigans-- sucked Juliana Hatfield-- very good Sarah McChlaclan (sp?)- good Fiona Apple-- real good Susanna Hoffs-- Still sounds like the Bangles. - --Brett "Make 'em feel ya." - --John Starks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:38:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jewelfan1@aol.com Subject: to many njc posts When I first joined this list a few months ago, I read every piece of mail. No, I find my self deleting whole chucks of NJC's. I agree that our groups is losing its focus. What happened to those inspirational stories about Jewel's effects on our lives? Jewel has changed me. When I bought her CD in 1996, I was an immature teen who was attracted to the CD by her video. Basically, I bought it becase I thought she was cute. Little did I know how much the CD would change me. I won't get into specifics, but I'm much better off with Jewel. Thanks for reading this. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:42:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Chimebell@aol.com Subject: Re: Animated greeting card arrived! I just wanted to thank Kimmie the Goofy Angle...I dont post much...but I just thought that was the cutest thing ever....I love the EDAs...you guys are the greatest...all of u...even the ones who can somtimes get on our nerves....you guys are the greatest!! (: love, tali<--the always confused angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:40:22 -0400 From: bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate) Subject: Re: Can I just say something? *NJC* I am happy that you are happy! :-) - -Em On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Linda the Every Day Angel writes: >Linda is very happy today >Linda has solved all her problems today >Linda is smiling today.. > >Linda wants to say: I LOVE YOU ALL!!!! and that also includes anyone >i've >been really mean to lately (yeah you, rachel/cornflake - i sorry :( >will >you ever forgive me?) > > /\/\/\/\ > (______) <--- for anyone i ever hurt this past week or two :( > `-||-' > _____ /~-'-p > | p > _____|.___B >****************************** > _____________ _____________ > | .---------. | .-..-. | .---------. | > | | | | : : | | | | > | | ME | |-----`. .'------| | EDAs | | > | |_________| | \/ | |_________| | > /---------------\\ /--------------\\ >/=================\\ /================\\ >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >^^^^ isn't that just extremely corny? > >I LOVE YOU ALL >please don't flame me for showing my love >love yas > >-linda :) > > ..::''''::.. > .:'' ``:. - Linda the Lovable EDA {\o/} > :: :: :: :: /m\ > :: :: :: :: brownie@tsb.inet-images.com > :: .:' :: :: `:. :: >http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/7809/ > :: : : :: ....................................... > :: `:. .:' :: "everybody loves you when you're easy, > `:..``::::''..:' everybody hates when you're a bore." > ``::,,,,::'' - sarah mclachlan "black & white" > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:44:12 -0400 From: bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate) Subject: Re: NJC: I'm Feeling Better, But I Got Something To Say! I think it just means that we need to respect people's opinions and be nice. :-) - -Em "You were never nothin less than beautiful." -Jewel On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:47:44 -0700 That Little Voice Inside Your Head writes: > > > >I'm better yada yada yada. BUT, who are we to say what is "EDA Like" I >mean >we are all EDAs and we are supposed to love each other for each of our >differences, The Great Puddini Loves Puddin, Steph has her poetry, >Man-D >her surfer chick style, Mike Connel his (forgive the >spellin)netiquette >and you get the point but what I'm trying to say is what is "EDA like" >I >mean I know that one thing about the guy going off on the other guy >was WAY >bad but what exactly is "EDA like" I mean does this mean we all have >to be >the same to live up to that "EDA like" status? I don't wanna be the >same, I >don't wanna be like anyone, I wanna be myself! I wanna live up to that >"Lora Like" status :D I wanna be me, and I'm sure that's what all you >angels wanna be I mean why hold back what you are inside? Good >question? I >think so! Now, all you beautiful people/angels be your own person! But >be >nice about it! and if your a mean own person, well, then you just have >some >problems to work out of your head, but you hurt one of these dear >people, >these fine dear people who help me through life's everyday problems, >from >heartache to kidney infections, well then you're gonna have to answer >to >me, that right me, (cheezy super hero music) SUPER LORA! Ok, I'm >restraining myself I love you all! take care! *SMOOCHES*!!!! > > > > >Love You All Till I Split Open And Melt, > > > > >Lora "The Angels Who Just Wants To Be Herself" > >_______________________________________________________ >=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB= >=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4= >=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF > Be Here Now >_______________________________________________________ >=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB= >=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4= >=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= >=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=20 > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: James McGarry Subject: NJC: Kinnie Starr Heya Folx, Let me preface this by saying I'm not the biggest fan of hip hop or ambient music. Oh, I do have a soft spot in my heart for dub though, kinda, sorta. But I've been trying to change that; to open my mind that little bit more. Seeing Kinnie Starr today was definitely a step in that direction. On very many levels, Kinnie has almost nothing in common with Jewel. She doesn't look like Jewel, she doesn't sound like Jewel, and she doesn't act like Jewel. So why might I think you'll like her as much as I do? There are a few artists to manage to conjure up something in their music that is more than the music itself. Some inordinant, intentive connection to them or to the earth, or to _something_. Jewel does this for me. In Nikos, she made me see what it was like to have a sibling, just, for that briefest of seconds. And from there to see how much poorer my life was without one. To get that lump in my throat, every single damn time in "Boy Needs a Bike" even though I _don't_ really understand, just _then_ I do. In this way Kinnie makes me feel connected to the planet; planted; rooted; touched by the earth; like grass; kissed by wind. In "Praise", a poem, a song, an interaction, she stands in the middle of the audience, praising her mother, the earth, life, living, love juice and the goddess Kali all at once, often seemingly in the same instant. Kinnie Starr is like dropping unnecessarily large amounts of mind altering substances. You can't just listen, your body won't let you, soon you are being, seeing, living the beat; the music. And then she stops and nothing really seems to have changed, but you missed that other gig you meant to catch and you seem to have magically shot nearly a whole roll of film and some how, some way, completely oblivious to you, the colours seem brighter. And. Then. You just have to wonder. "How in the hell, does she _do_ _that_?" :-) Buy her stuff, if you want, she's got a few CD's and some other bits. But, really, go see her! Really! James. P.S. I'm giving all these recommendations as I'm in the midst (well, done now) of covering a music festival. Which is why I haven't quite got to some private mail... ..sorry, to those concerned. P.P.S. The freakiest thing was probably shooting Kinnie in the middle of the audience in a circle of other photographers, and then having people come up to _me_ afterwards because I seemed to be the only one smiling that hard while shooting and writing and commenting on that. :-) P.P.P.S. On the X Files, Langley says to Mulder, "We like you Mulder, your ideas are stranger than ours." That's how I feel about Kinnie Starr! :-) ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What sets worlds in motion is the interplay of differences, their attractions and repulsions; life is plurality, death is uniformity. - - Octavio Paz ========================================================================== ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #609 ***************************