From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #608 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, July 27 1997 Volume 02 : Number 608 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Hello it's me [Miguel Rodriguez ] Re: JC: Double@CDNOW? [Aliceinw1@aol.com] Re: NJC: Dave Matthews List [Jimi6thing@aol.com] *NJC* Mean people :( [Linda the Every Day Angel ] Hmm [Joe ] dreams people have [millerk@cport.com (Karen Miller)] Austin Trip Tuesday [luvksym90_1@juno.com (Live LIVE Music)] NJC:Here, Here Angelz!!!! [Trueblu4u1@aol.com] EDA-content--Great Page [GroovyLime@aol.com] LC: Friends Forever [Crunch ] Newbie! [AngelCourt@aol.com] NJC=Lillith ticket problem [GroovyLime@aol.com] NJC: Guess what you're doing right now. Are you killing the list? ["Chris] SJC: NEW Vinyl POY PROBLEM [JewelEDA21@aol.com] Please Read: for a newbie's sake. [Ronda Lou Morgan ] THANKS TO ALL :) [LunrRaven@aol.com] Re: Hey eda's [Plymouth58@aol.com] For Everyone who has been asking about IRC [shallowend@asan.com] NJC:AOL buddies [sdf4@ix.netcom.com] LC: Newbies, especially IRC and AOL ones [Always Was A Subject: Hello it's me Dear EDA's, Hi there my name is Miguel but you can call me JD or Whatever you want to call me. I am new to the list and just wanted to introduce myself. I am 19 years old, I live in Anaheim, CA. My favorite artist is of course Jewel. Other favorites of mine include, Alanis, No Doubt, Reel Big Fish. . ..Etc... My interests include Acting, reading, concerts, and coffe shop hopping. I really admire the way you alll seem so close and have actuallly been able to meet each other and hold events and stuff. I would really like to part of the closeness. I'm a really good listener so if anyone has any problems I'll be here for you. I am a die hard Jewel fan so please let me know of any events you guys hold. Thanks. I'm looking forward to my experiences here. With Love and Light, JD "The Acting Angel" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:44:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Aliceinw1@aol.com Subject: Re: JC: Double@CDNOW? In a message dated 97-07-27 16:16:29 EDT, you write: << At CDnow there is a jewel CD called Double, that is priced at like $1.39 or something close to that. There is no track listing or informaton on the CD, however. I was wondering if any of you have any info. on this single, or import, or whatever it is. >> i don't know but since it was so cheap i bought it when i bought the poy vinyl so i'll let everyone know when i get it. jenny (the shy angel) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jimi6thing@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: Dave Matthews List send an email to DMBMail@aol.com.. that is the Warehouse ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:28:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda the Every Day Angel Subject: *NJC* Mean people :( I want to point out that I've been mean to some of the newbie EDA's lately.. and a few people know why... because of how I've been.. physically and emotionally and mentally - even before Bearsville, adn I took it out on this list. But there is no excuse for that boy Jason's words - NOBODY on this list would tell another to leave unless they did someone incredibly disgraceful - - even then we would never tell them - we'd probably just let them go... I wouldn't know because to my knowledge no EDA has been kicked off the list.. no wait wasn't there one really bad seed at one point? Well i dunno what happened there so I can't say anything on it But nobody should be mean to anyone on here... Think before you post - if you're in a bad mood.. write out a letter... but cancel it when you're done instead of sending it.... or save it and read after you've gotten out of your bad mood - just so you can see what difference it makes! Everyone needs to be happy! and everyone needs to share the EDA LOVE! :) I"m going to 2 EDA functions - one is definite - the other is a maybe but I'm sure I can get a ride since it's only about 20 minutes from me - The SCranton Lilith Fair and Tammy's LRT... Any newbies who wanna go to these - please email me! I"d love to meet you all I wanna help welcome all of you with open arms and teach you all about the EDA's (which i probably can't do if my life depended on it.. but well.. :) we all have wishful thinking) ttyl - -linda ..::''''::.. .:'' ``:. - Linda the Lovable EDA {\o/} :: :: :: :: /m\ :: :: :: :: brownie@tsb.inet-images.com :: .:' :: :: `:. :: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/7809/ :: : : :: ....................................... :: `:. .:' :: "everybody loves you when you're easy, `:..``::::''..:' everybody hates when you're a bore." ``::,,,,::'' - sarah mclachlan "black & white" On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 Chwdown@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-27 07:56:20 EDT, you write: > > << Do you get it? We don't care for your innane jokes or prattle. I'm not > going to tell you to leave (like some others would), but at least keep > your rambling confined under the NJC subject Label. We (or most of us) > don't care about your stupid problems. I keep hoping that I'll hear from a > friend and keep getting adolescent jokes.Please go alittle easy. > > Jason V >> > > HI guys, its me again...yea I know, I'll try not to annoy/bore/piss any of u > off. I usually don't publiccally post stuff, but this really hurt me. Think > before u say stuff, I haven't done anything to you Jason.... > I'm sorry for whatever i did. > -Ronnie > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:34:47 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: Re: Goodbye to all nice angels :'( =) Jenny! =) The nonchalance that we have shown in your problems is inexcusable. Many of us have been so caught up in our personal summers and countless EDA gatherings that we are not paying attention to the littler things, like you! =) The fact is that you aren't a "littler thing". You are a huge thing, you are a piece of us, and a vital part of life. So being, you are as important as any EDA gathering. =) Instead of despairing about your posts going unanswered, join into the return of positive posting. There is so much positive about to happen on this list, become a part of it! You will find that as you focus on the positive things, your outlook and vision will become more positive. You will become noticed for your sunshine, not for your tears. =) Tears are a part of everyone's life, but it is the smiles and laughs that define a person's personality. Each of us have gone through periods when we felt exactly like you. We feel for you, but patiently and wisely, we wait for you to learn and turn yourself around to become what you truly want to be, HAPPY! The only person that can do that for you is yourself. The rest of us can only stand by and cheer you on! =) GO JENNY GO!! =) Lots of love, Crunch! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:59:42 -0700 From: Joe Subject: Hmm SIGH... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:25:02 -0700 From: millerk@cport.com (Karen Miller) Subject: dreams people have is ther anyone who does study about dreams becuase i have some wierd ones and some things i want to do so very badly for some reason holly Have a great day Karen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:46:40 EDT From: luvksym90_1@juno.com (Live LIVE Music) Subject: Austin Trip Tuesday I will be at STUBBS Bar B Q 801 Red River Austin TX 512 480 8341 Tuesday for the early show to see Terri Hendrix who probably could satisfy most music tastes. E-mail me if you wanna see some LIVE music instead of Austin Music Channel. Lloyd Maines will be producing her next CD in September and she is in an experimental mode so the shows are wild. She is smart as a whip! "...there's a hole in my pocket where my soul slips away...Terri Hendrix" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:38:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Trueblu4u1@aol.com Subject: NJC:Here, Here Angelz!!!! Hello my family. I'm going to spare the lecturing on how we should be kind to eachother, and be more friendly. Because, I would need to lecture myself also. No, I write to you all to say... I LOVE YOU!!!! That's it, I LOVE YOU. No strings attached. ~Christy {\o/} /_\ "the loving angel" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: GroovyLime@aol.com Subject: EDA-content--Great Page Crash Boy's EDA Page<<<<<<<= click here!=20 ok, ive realized that alot ofd edas would like to know somemore about oth= er edas and would like to know what the look like and so on, this is a great page fer edas to see many pictures of others at events, gatherings and so= on, this page rocks! alot of pics and cute little captions... CRASHBOY RULES!!!!!!! he deserves a hand fer his fine job on his page, love ya man!=20 ::standing ovation for crashboy:: peace and groove - -=3D~=95steve=95~=3D- "Folk em' up"- Bill Bell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:25:10 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: LC: Friends Forever =) Hello my firends! =) In support of the refreshingly positive mood on the list, I want to add a few words. Through- out the 16 months that I have been on this list, my life has made some drastic changes. Most of those changes have absolutely nothing to do with this list. However, this list has given me something that will last forever: friendships. =) I have met well over two hundred EDAs in the last year. Although, I would love to say a few words about every single one of you, we all know that it would take waaaaaay too much bandwidth. But, I want to mention a few of you that have been so important to me in hopes that we all can realize the care and value that this list holds for all. =) Jon Reade (AESTHETE99): I met Jon last year at Jewelstock. We realized that we live just miles from each other. In the following year, Jon and I attended many EDA gatherings together, and more importantly, did lots of other stuff. Today, I name Jon as one of my best friends. =) Shelly Curson: another JS meeting. Shelly and I became companions and more, going through many trials and amusements hand in hand. Shelly will always hold a special place in my heart and will always be a friend. For those that haven't met Shelly (who hasn't posted in forever), she rates as one of the top EDA hosts (Lizstock!). =) Larry Greenfield: didn't have the absolute pleasure of meeting Larry until Lizstock last February. Larry is a true kindred spirit to myself. We share the same dreams and vision. By knowing Larry, I have come to know myself a little bit better. Larry is a true angel, in every EDA sense! I have the honor of calling Larry my friend. =) Mike Connell: no one has more dedication to this list than Mike. From organizing Jewelstock to administering the list, Mike has the EDAs best at heart. I had the privilege of many phone conversations with Mike in the planning of JS, and have had countless since. I have met him every chance that has been available and still feel like I don't know him well enough. But, I know that we are friends. =) Rich Chang aka Akira: another who I worked with on JS. This man is a true diamond in the rough. Those that have met him know that one can not spend too much time with Rich. Rich has had a rough year since we first talked, but has come out of it so much stronger and alive. His friendship has always been dear. =) Rachel Martin: another devoted EDA. And also another that I had the pleasure of knowing before JS. Rachel and I have had many bizarre experiences together and through it all, have become that kind of friends that is always there with me in spirit, even when we don't even IM for a month. =) Kim Littlejohn aka SilverKat: where are you? You are my oldest EDA friend. You are a truly magical being that we sorely miss! I know you are still watching! Miss you! =) There are literally hundreds of others that I could mention here. These are a few friendships that have developed over time that I would never have had I not joined this list. I hold each of these very close, as I do all the EDAs I have met, online and off. =) What excites me is the new friendships that are developing with recent EDAs! It is truely a miracle to watch this circle of friends grow and mature, together. There are many newbies that have been with the list since its inception, they just couldn't find it until recently! Another finds us each day! =) If this next year affords me such EDA friendships as the last, I will truely be blessed. I have no doubts that I will be pleasantly and magically suprised in the upcoming months! =) Lots of smiles and bubbles! =) Your Friend! =) Crunch! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:04:29 -0400 (EDT) From: AngelCourt@aol.com Subject: Newbie! Hi...my name is Courtney...I'm a newbie on this list...My "parent" on this list is Ali!! :-) She's trying to show me the ropes here...Jewel rocks and I'm very happy to be on this list...I see that all of you are good friends...I hope to make some good friends here too! I'm 19 years old and live in New Jersey but go to college in Connecticut...if anyone knows of any gatherings in this area, that would be greatly appreciated if you could let me know!! I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi!!! And one more thing....I went to lilith fair last night and it rocked!!! If you all can go and see it, SEE IT!!!! Love, Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:51:40 -0400 (EDT) From: GroovyLime@aol.com Subject: NJC=Lillith ticket problem hey all, i have a question since i couldnt find a ride fer the lillith fair for camden nj (sunday au= g. 27), can i use the ticket i have for any other of the lillith fairs? if nobody knows, is there a # i can call?=20 thanx for any replys peace and groove - -=3D~=A4steve=A4~=3D- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:44:56 -0400 From: "Christopher S. Penn '97" Subject: NJC: Guess what you're doing right now. Are you killing the list? Dear All, I thought I'd add one little tiny overlooked thing in all the posting about the list and its shakeup. The one little tiny thing is the power of the mind. Specifically, if you think the list is going downhill, guess what? It is. Why? Because you're contributing to its going downhill. NEVER, EVER underestimate the power of the mind and the power of suggestion that words carry. If you read the list and see all these folks posting about how the list is dying- well, what else can you think? That things are just fine? Everything in life goes through phases and cycles. Every year, we face the death of thousands of lives, thousands of plants and animals. You know what this massive holocaust is called? Winter. It's natural and essential. Anytime you have a complex system, such as a list with 900 people on it, it takes on all new characteristics, characteristics that can be seen as organic and alive. This means that it is subject to growing pains, little deaths, little births, big and little shakeups, and everything else that something alive goes through. Take heart! The list isn't dead... unless, through the power of pessimistic thinking, you manage to kill it. How do you kill a borderline patient in a hospital? Do lots of doom and gloom, morose moping, etc. Their own minds will convince them that they are truly finished. How do you take a borderline case and turn the whole thing around and set them on the path to wholeness? Lots of positive thinking, power thinking, encouragement, praise, and sensitivity. Let the list owners like Jeff and the hard workers know that their efforst are not only valued, but essential. If you think that this list is in trouble, then don't just sit there and lament it- get off your butt and do something about it! Actively go out and do some of that EDA stuff that we're known for, and then come share. Make this a positive forum. Treat the online community as you would treat that patient in that hospital. Be a little sensitive. Would you honestly confront a patient in a hospital by joking, "Heh, you know, surgeons leave all sorts of shit inside patients, sometimes as a joke, you know?" Of course not! (I hope not) Don't do the equivalent online. Those of you with special talents, let the others know, so that when EDAs have troubles, they have someone to reach out to. If you're really talented at mediating relationships, say so! I happen to be reasonably adept at dealing with crises of faith and religion, as well as crises of crime and the horrible deeds man inflicts on his fellow man. If you've got those kinds of problems, I'll listen. I'll help as much as I can. I'll finish off by repeating what I started with. NEVER EVER EVER underestimate the power of the mind and the words that bridge the gap between thought and deed. If you think the list is dying, and you communicate that, then you've completed two of the three steps needed to kill it. Remember that. Chris The Bootknife Angel The Warrior's Creed by Robert Humphrey Wherever I go, everyone is a little bit safer because I am there. Wherever I am, anyone in need has a friend. Whenever I return home, everyone is happy I am there. ........................................................................ Christopher S. Penn Nihon Mizumachi Kyokai ........................................................................ "I never will fight for what doesn't want winning." - Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: JewelEDA21@aol.com Subject: SJC: NEW Vinyl POY PROBLEM Hey all! I just baught the new POY. But, I do not have a Record PLayer. WOu;ld someone be willing to make a copy of mine onto a tape or CD? I Would pay for shipping/handeling/extra money. I will send mine out to you,and then you would send back. Thanks! E-me, please! Seb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:18:25 -0700 From: Ronda Lou Morgan Subject: Please Read: for a newbie's sake. Hello EDA's. I'm kindof a newbie, and it seems as if ever since I got on this list, the tension between everyone has grown. It seems like everyone's mad at everyone else or something. I really like this list. I've met some really nice people that live in my area. I just wish that all this fighting would stop. Or maybe it's not so much the fighting, but all this tension. Sometimes I feel like I'm not even welcome. I'll probably get mail saying, "well, you're a newbie, and you don't know anything", or something along those lines. But, I'm just stating an opinion. I would just like to see what it was like before. The way that all the vets are talking about. How everyone got along, and stuff like that. Well, I guess that's it. Thanks for your time. Kimmie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:10:54 From: Sailor Mercury Subject: NJC: ANGRY ANGEL (written on behalf of all Fledgling Angels) For those who care: After retrieving my mail after 5 days I read a message from a sad and depressed person(female). I am angry about the fact that everyone (almost) has been blatently rude to all of the newbies (since I am a newbie myself I fell concerned). I have tried to join this mailing list for over 5 months. Finally I have my own e-mail address and I subscribed. I don't mind the overly large amouts of mail I have been recieving, but I do mind the disregard to all the newbies based on the fact that ther'ye new and you think you can push them around just because you have seniority, basically I trying to say that everyone should be nice toeveryone else because there are probably more newbies on the list than elders, and they probably thought that this list was going to be really, really, really great. I have found that not to be true. All I have found is a hell-of-a-lot of blatent disregard for the newbies (example: LunrRaven@aol.com). I read her final post. I'll attempt to paraphrase it. > She was saying that she was struck by hardship and she felt that no EDA would give a damn. So to correct the problem there she unsubscribed from the list.< I think it would be good to suggest that the elders should take a Time Out. That would give them time to think about others people and their feelings. And if this had been a speech accusing a political candidate of some scandal that the accused would probably confess and resign from his/her position in politics. I'm sorry if the elders are upset but I don't care at this time. At this time I must get my point across. And now I think you (the elders on the list) should institute an "Adopt A Fledgling" program. It would help the newbies to fit in. Sailor Mercury, the Celestial Angel Sailor Mercury, the Celestial Angel mercuryfan@geocities.com ___________________________________________________ "Had I not known that I was dead already, I would have mourned my loss of life" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:25:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kimmie tHe gOoFy aNgElp [Website user]" Subject: Animated greeting card arrived! Guess what!! 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You know, the one about rights to free > > speech... well... um... maybe you need to re-read it > > The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law...abridging the > freedom of speech or of the press..." > > over the last 24 hours a few people have mentioned that, Jeff Wasilko > expends his own personal resources to operate this list. clearly, > Jeff is NOT a governmental actor. Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one. I happen to own this press. > while all of these are interesting topics, they simply don't belong on > this list. at that time Jeff posted a message kindly asking to keep the > NJC to a minimum. i WISH i had saved that post. i just don't have the > time to pore over old digests and find it. I wish you had as well (-: > Jeff Wasilko, the owner of this list, asked us to keep NJC to a minimum. > i think we should abide by his wishes. although i love the first > amendment, it is inapplicable to this situation. this just is not the > proper forum to use as a chat room. I'd like to put the group on notice that this list is within an inch of losing a home. There are a number of reasons, not the least of which is the load this list is placing on the systems here. I recently had to spend quite a while redesigning the way mail is handled in order to preserve the good relationship I have with my ISP (and to avoid having to shut all the lists down). This list has been averaging 150 messages per day, and sometimes hitting 200 messages per day. If you multiply that by the 400 people on the regular list, it works out to 60,000 to 80,000 individual messages passing thru my system per day (just for this list alone)! There are a number of other reasons that I'd rather not go into as well. While I've got your attention, I'd like to thank Mike for taking over the very thankless job of day-to-day management of the lists. I'm working in Amsterdam now, and have even less time than I did before to keep an eye on things. - -Jeff (frustrated list-owner) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:42:15 -0400 (EDT) From: AngelCourt@aol.com Subject: It's me again... Hi again!!! It's me, Courtney again...I was just wondering how many of you live in the Connecticut area...I know that I'm new on this list but I would love to meet you all!! I'm going back to college in Connecticut on August 27th and I would love to get an EDA gathering going...if anyone wants to help me do this because I have no ideal how to :-) Then e-mail me at AngelCourt@aol.com Bye!! Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:26:58 -0700 From: Ronda Lou Morgan Subject: http://www.bluemountain.com/cards/box237/theevery76789298.html Greeting card for you I love you all!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:41:54 +0200 From: "Jorgen Van Geffen" Subject: NEW M.O.M CD... Hello my fellow EDA's, This might have been posted before, but I just wanted to make sure... aft= er reading a 'Billboard' copy I found out there will be a new M.O.M. cd hitting the shelves August 26. One of the artists on it will be JEWEL; Billboard wrote that it will be = a song she specifically wrote for 'MOM II'; Other artists to be on it are: Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Porno For Pyros, Beach Boys, Dick Dale, Toad The Wet Sprocket, Brian Setzer Orchestra, Roy= al Crown Revue, Jimmy Buffet, Pato Banton, Counting Crows, Moby, 311, Sublim= e, Dishwalla, The Offspring and Ben Harper. You can find the article at page 16 of the July 26. issue Greetings from Belgium Europe, J=F6rgen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:00:44 -0400 (EDT) From: LunrRaven@aol.com Subject: THANKS TO ALL :) I HAVE HAD MANY RESPONSES TO MY GOODBYE EMAIL. I HAVE FOUND MANY NEW PEOPLE TO LOVE... AND I THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO BOTHERED TO RESPOND, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE PLANNING ON RESPONDING. I SIMPLY DON'T HAVE WORDS TO EXPRESS MY LOVE FOR MY NEW FRIENDS. HOPEFULLY I WILL GET TO MEET ALL ANGELS, GOOD OR BAD, AND HUG EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU PERSONALLY. BUT THE GOOD ANGELS WILL TAKE AWAY A PIECE OF MY HEART. AND THE BAD, WILL TAKE AWAY A SENSE OF KNOWING UNCONDITIONAL LOVE. BECAUSE YES, I LOVE YOU ALL. THANK U AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR RESPONSES AND ALL YOUR CONDOLENCES LOVE TO ALL FOR ETERNITY JENNY ~*~THE ONCE AGAIN, SINGING ANGEL~*~ i believe this song, eminates a lot of my emotions... 7: Never Is A Promise ( 5:54 ) WAV Clip (662k) You'll never see the courage I know Its colors' richness won't appear within your view I'll never glow - the way that you glow Your presence dominates the judgements made on you But as the scenery grows, I see in different lights The shades and shadows undulate in my perception My feelings swell and stretch; I see from greater heights I understand what I am still too proud to mention - to you You'll say you understand, but You don't understand You'll say you'd never give up seeing eye to eye But never is a promise, and you can't afford to lie You'll never touch - these things that I hold The skin of my emotions lies beneath my own You'll never feel the heat of this soul My fever burns me deeper than I've ever shown - to you You'll say, Don't fear your dreams, it's easier than it seems You'll say you'd never let me fall from hopes so high But never is a promise and you can't afford to lie You'll never live the life that I live I'll never live the life that wakes me in the night You'll never hear the message I give You'll say it looks as though I might give up this fight But as the scenery grows, I see in different lights The shades and shadows undulate in my perception My feelings swell and stretch, I see from greater heights I realize what I am now too smart to mention - to you You'll say you understand, you'll never understand I'll say I'll never wake up knowing how or why I don't know what to believe in, you don't know who I am You'll say I need appeasing when I start to cry But never is a promise and I'll never need a lie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:26:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Plymouth58@aol.com Subject: Re: Hey eda's Dear Eda's, Hi! I am new to the mailing list...so I thought I would introduce myself. My name is Lawrence..but you can call me JR. I am from Missouri and of course a Big Jewel Fan! She is really awsome! Course my favorite artist is Jewel and the mighty mighty bosstones are pretty cool too. Since I love Jewel so much I have alot of Jewel Pics and wavs so If anybody wants them for their web site feel free to e-mail me. And if you ever hear if Jewel is coming to ST. Louis or anywhere in Missouri. Please tell me. Well see you later EDA'S ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:33:05 -0400 From: shallowend@asan.com Subject: For Everyone who has been asking about IRC Hi all For those of you who don't know me my name is John and I'm the channel manager of #EDA on undernet. IRC is a chat program very similar to the one AOL uses (as a matter of fact AOL based their chat on IRC). What great about IRC as opossed to AOL is: 1:You don't have to be a member of AOL to use IRC, anyone with net acces can use it. 2:it's Free, you heard me right FREE. the software is free everything is free. Go to www.asan.com/users/shallowend/jewelirc.htm , there you find everything you need, software to download, and instructions. We all hang out in the #EDA channel. John ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:44:49 -0500 (CDT) From: sdf4@ix.netcom.com Subject: NJC:AOL buddies I just wanted to email everyone that I just downloaded the AOL instant buddy list program. My name is 'justAkira'. Akira ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:38:38 -0400 From: Always Was A Subject: LC: Newbies, especially IRC and AOL ones >And now I think you (the elders on the list) should institute an >"Adopt A Fledgling" program. It would help the newbies to fit in. Hmm.... that would be the Adopt-A-Newbie program that _I_, supposed newbie-hater, run, would it not ? :) I do NOT hate newbies. Do not, do not, do not INFINITY. I have a problem with some posts, whether or not they're made by newbies. Everyone here has been a newbie at some point, correct ? And, to add to that- my big yelling post mentioned having respect for the list elders. That's because when I joined the list, I felt a TON of respect for those who came before me, and it was very important to me. I usually go with "respect everyone until they show you they don't deserve it". However, I've learned that a lot of other people don't run like that. Others say "I'll give YOU respect when you give it to me." Therefore, I guess they feel no need to respect list elders... not much I can do about that.There's also the fact that a lot of people can't tell who's an elder and who's a newbie. Hey, that's actually pretty cool. Albert posted a GREAT post about what is , and is not, appropriate to be posting. Thank you, Albert ! I hope everyone read it. I don't think that has anything to do with being a newbie. I read LunrRaven/Jenny's letter, and it made me very sad. Personal problems can always be shared on this list. One of my best friends was about to commit suicide last winter, and he was a fellow EDA- the first thing I did was post about it. If you need help, every single one of us is here for you. That goes for everyone, list elder or brand-spankin'-newbie. Some people have been posting or IMing me, asking, "Why are vets so mean to newbies ?" I don't think it has anything to do with being a newbie. Most people will reply harshly to a post, and almost never to the "newbieness" of the poster. Remember- nobody knows when you joined the list. For all anyone knows, you've been on the list two years and posted today for the first time. If someone is mean to you, unless they specifically say it's because you're a newbie, then it's most likely because of a post you made that they didn't like. I want to make an offer to all AOL or IRC* newbies. I thought this went without saying, but some people have been writing me off as a newbie-hater, and I'm NOT. Therefore... If you are a newbie on AOL or IRC, PLEASE IM or /msg me if you have ANY questions about the list :). I'm almost always online, and I promise to ask any questions you have ( or refer you to someone who CAN answer your questions ;) ). Oh... and I don't make angelfood, because I don't have a tape dubber :). Please don't ask me, OK ? ;) Rachel :) *PS- IRC is a chat service you can do for free with an ISP. Since you have email, you have an ISP ( I think... ) :). If you have a PC, you can get IRC at http://www.mIRC.com/. If you're on a Mac, you can get it at http://www.IRCle.com/ IF you're on AOL, mac or PC, you can go to keyword: IRC to get the programs and some background info. YES, you can be on IRC and AOL at the same time ! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda the Every Day Angel Subject: Can I just say something? *NJC* Linda is very happy today Linda has solved all her problems today Linda is smiling today.. Linda wants to say: I LOVE YOU ALL!!!! and that also includes anyone i've been really mean to lately (yeah you, rachel/cornflake - i sorry :( will you ever forgive me?) /\/\/\/\ (______) <--- for anyone i ever hurt this past week or two :( `-||-' _____ /~-'-p | p _____|.___B ****************************** _____________ _____________ | .---------. | .-..-. | .---------. | | | | | : : | | | | | | ME | |-----`. .'------| | EDAs | | | |_________| | \/ | |_________| | /---------------\\ /--------------\\ /=================\\ /================\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^^^^ isn't that just extremely corny? I LOVE YOU ALL please don't flame me for showing my love love yas - -linda :) ..::''''::.. .:'' ``:. - Linda the Lovable EDA {\o/} :: :: :: :: /m\ :: :: :: :: brownie@tsb.inet-images.com :: .:' :: :: `:. :: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stage/7809/ :: : : :: ....................................... :: `:. .:' :: "everybody loves you when you're easy, `:..``::::''..:' everybody hates when you're a bore." ``::,,,,::'' - sarah mclachlan "black & white" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 19:59:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: LC: What this list has done for me (Warning, happy post), again... The list for me has become a 'home away from home' (in a way) except that it is still something that Rob and I share. I'm not much of one wwords, but I'll just say that this list means A LOT to me and I love the ppl I have met and those that I haven't met yet. What other group can a person say they have loved pretty much everyone they have met?!?!? Anyway, I love you all a lot and know my life would seem a little emptier without all of you :-) Tammy :-) The Mushy Feeling Edamommy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Romeo875@aol.com Subject: hey I know i have posted some really stupid things, and i was wondering if any of the veteran eda's would Take me on as a newbie and teach me what i need to know about the list. Write me back. thanks. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:55:06 -0400 (EDT) From: MrLappie@aol.com Subject: SJC: Newbie needs help! John here I need a vet to help me out, show me the ways Please, I'm desperate ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: DmBear978@aol.com Subject: *JC* -- Unpublished stuff. Also, Ive gotta statement Hi Everybody, First off I want to thank Mike & Larry for clearing that up about the Jewel-info@smoe.org. Somebody is bound to be gladly informed :) Anyway Ive got a bunch of Jewel RealAudio tracks that are great, but the one that I downloaded is stupid. E-mail me if you can help/need more explaination. Ive caught up on whats been going on & this Ive gotta say is close to a war like that Zak/list flaming ordeal a few months back. Ive gotta say, C'Mon people -- what do you think this list is about? HANSON? Nope, its a list of Jewel fans WHO talk about Jewel &/or stuff that could be related to Jewel(problems in life & going on,etc.). Pleaseeeee, lay off the NJC posts so much. Its good that your participating,but for the sake of the silent majority -LAY OFF THE NJC POSTS- keep them privately(like whoever asked about the DMB mailing list, e-mail me) so that everybody else isn't deleting their digests/numerous posts cause the posts have no relation to Jewel at all. Wheeww, Im tired of talking. Oh, heres something about me -- Im playing at a church in Garden Grove & I get to play for an hr. w/ a crowd(normally they go play Volleyball whenever Im playing)..Hehe..Im moving up in the world...maybe not, but at least Ive got a small audience. Blah, Blah. Enough Said. 'Same Bat-time, Same Bat-channel' <-- I love that line! Later 'Quiet Warrior' Alex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:38:21 -0400 (EDT) From: HeyJupitar@aol.com Subject: NJC: Thoughts on EDA's I tend not to post unless there I something I really need to say. Lately there has been a lot of negativity on the mailing list which is not good but also there has been some happiness . .the Bearsville gathering. Everyone grows but we all are on this list for one reason mainly . . .Jewel. She is a very philosophical person who believes "in the end only kindness matters". I think that should be a quote to live be. I just want to take some time and thank a few EDA'S who have extended there welcome to me since march of 97 when I joined. You have offered me support, guidance and angelfood. I might have forgotten a few names. If so, I am sorry!! I also would like to help some *newbies* get some angelfood, I do not have all that much to offer since I cannot find EDA"s to make me copies :( That was not meant in a negative way, just simply that I am sure a few semi-elder EDA'S still need food too. I LoVe YoU AlL . . .megan (cloudy angel) . . .no particular order . . . . john -- who showed me what a soul is and how it works and also about growing. rachel -- she told me about the 'burns show in NoHo . . .jeez girl, I owe you just for that ;) it was a spiffy night! bill -- all i can see is you hopping over the rail at the iron horse! haha! thanxs for the tapes there . . .glad I helped the labido ;) kathy -- you are my twin I swear! or bestest EDA friend . . .love u loads! i loved our conversations mike -- you have showed me lots . .should I get into it here?! hmm . .no :) albert -- just seeing you smile was enough ~~my list was way to short especially since i know loads of EDA's but I just wanted you to know that I love you all and please lets stay friendly :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 21:20:03 -0400 From: Mike Thiel Subject: NJC: First post in a LONG time, with a little problem ... Hey everyone ... I'm glad that the list is looking like it's starting to get back into the way it should ... good work, everyone. :) I was just wondering if I could get some help from my EDA's. I got this little problem on my hands ... yes, it has to do with a girl. :) On Friday, she e-mailed me (long-distance relationship) and said that she loves me so much, and everything was going perfect. Then today she e-mails me and wants to break up. My heart just stopped ... I really wasn't expecting that. It would have been different if we were fighting or something, but everything was going great! So anyways, I call her, and it turns out that she misses her ex-boyfriend a lot. She says she still loves me so much, but she just can't live without her ex. (He called her earlier today ... she realized that she still has feelings for him.) He lives in the same town as her, so she can see him every chance that she can, while I live over 1000 miles away. This girl is the girl of my dreams ... I KNOW that I can never find a better girl than her. She is EVERYTHING that I want in a woman and MORE. So what should I do??? I really don't want to give her up, but I have a feeling that she won't give up her ex, either. I'm talking to her tonight, so I was wondering what you guys think I should tell her to try to get her back. Any replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone ... I love you all. Lotsa Love, Mike ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #608 ***************************