From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #559 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, July 14 1997 Volume 02 : Number 559 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re:Re's: Have you gotten your EDA brainwashing today? [kareng@ici.net (ka] N=Vinyl [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] Re: Good and Bad? [Gianfranco Covello ] New Foolish Games video [sammy3@ix.netcom.com] OceanFest 97' [EDAngel1@aol.com] If you read the "What do we stand for" thing read this [Coolmen123@aol.co] NJC..... read! [screamgurrl ] Who are Anais Nin and Henry Miller? [MandyP311@aol.com] Tape Bag ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] Read, Possibly Message From Jewel!!!!!!!!!!!!! [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret] Re: Who are Anais Nin and Henry Miller? ["Christian Schmidt" ] NJC: Hi Guys!! ["College Computer Center" ] Re: I MET LENEDRA [Jessica ] Angelfood Circle [Gerrit Kruidhof ] Re: Who are Anais Nin and Henry Miller? [James McGarry ] NJC Dedicated Poem and Somebody Get Me Off the List!!! :) [sparksmark@jun] Re: Who are Anais and Henry? [AMXD99A@prodigy.com (MISS ANAIS NIN)] Re: NJC Dedicated Poem and Somebody Get Me Off the List!!! :) [GRooVe MoN] Re: NJC Dedicated Poem and Somebody Get Me Off the List!!! :) [GRooVe MoN] Steve Poltz [rIver ] First Post [rlw1@cec.wustl.edu (Rob White)] Sleater Kinney Concert II [SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU] NJC: Re: Good and Bad? [Rael ] Re: POY on Vinyl/Vinyl CD/DVD [Gerrit Kruidhof ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:24:09 +0100 From: kareng@ici.net (karen gannon) Subject: Re:Re's: Have you gotten your EDA brainwashing today? I know people are really not in agreement with this post, but oh well. I, too am sick of the preaching that goes on on this list. This is not a good vs. evil situation. People on this list should learn to disagree without taking the other's opinion as a personal attack. Too many people seem to believe that the bright and happy way (in this particular instance, I'm using it as a lame metaphor for "my way") is the only 'angel' way. This is reality, people. There is no one right way. There is no good vs. evil/right vs. wrong battle here. Everything has its shade of gray, as well as its own colors. I happen to be someone who is often a cynical, sometimes caustic person. Sometimes I can hurt someone's feelings because of this. I'm sorry that that happens, but I'm not going to change and become an optimist because of a few stepped-on toes. Many times, it's not my fault, but rather the cause is an oversensitive person. So I think people should start replying to the person who posts comments directly. That way, people don't start a flame war when the whole thing could have been sorted out. Save replies to the list for what you want the whole list to see, and what the whole list will likely want to see. Thanks for bearing with me, - --Josh ________________________________________________________________________________ This is not a black and white world/To be alive I say the colors must swirl/I believe that maybe today/We will all learn to appreciate/The beauty of gray. - --pre sellout *Live* ________________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:18:31 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: N=Vinyl Ok, so what you guys are saying is that you can't play the Jewel coming out on Vinyl thing on a CD Player?? I ;'m one confused angel....forgive me......hehehe Margaret gosiam@juno.com *The*Hyper*Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:22:04 -0400 From: Gianfranco Covello Subject: Re: Good and Bad? Hi all, thought i should share this, Ok, about the difference of good and bad people.. Well, i *think* i do good for that reason alone, to do good.. i usually don't think of the response i get, partially because of the way i was raised and partially becuase, i hate seeing people being hurt, or tricked or scammed or whatever... Now what i *think* the bad person does is that he/she sometimes don't realize that what they are doing is bad, and sometimes, they get off on hurting others, now most *bad* people i think have trouble being nice or good, like as if it hurts them to do good, or just don't know any other way, maybe because of the way they were brought up, bad experience in their lives.. etc... or just plain evil :-) well the above might not make sense, but i just thought i'd share my views :-) Now i won't be thinking for awhile now ;-) take care... - -Gian- At 04:27 AM 14/07/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all...I was sitting there reading the posts about "what do we stand for" >when I had a thought (rare)...are good and bad people the same? I thought of >it this way...'bad' people do things in self-interest, which is to say that >they make themselves feel better through whatever it is they do >(trickery,etc.)...'good' people do things, supposedly, in the interest of >other people; but aren't they doing it for the same reason as the bad people? >namely that it makes them feel better? don't they do it so they can tell >themselves "i did something good, and i didn't do it for myself"? don't they >also do it because, maybe unconciously, they want other people to think, >"my, isn't he/she such a good person"? >And then i thought about some of the 'good' things i sometimes do...i help >the elderly because, to be honest, i feel sorry for them and i feel as if >though they need me (kind of like, if not me, then who?)...i never once >thought i was doing it just to make people think that i was a good person and >get showered with compliments...i've done it many times to make myself feel >good about me and who i am...but do we, as people, do 'good' for the same >reason that bad people do it? self interest, and no other? >-Steve > >P.S. This is not a sarcastic post designed to tick EDAs off...I just had one >of those wierd 1:20 in the morning thoughts... > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:11:38 -0400 From: sammy3@ix.netcom.com Subject: New Foolish Games video I just saw the video on VH1 at around 1:35 PM. It's okay.... The YWMFM videos were a lot better, I think. My first reaction was the camera movement. The camera was going everywhere and shaking all the time, which really got annoying. There were some shots that were stranged in that it appeared the camera actually zoomed back from the frame itself to show a box that had the video in it. Jewel looked great, but the director tried making her look too much like Robin Wright (the girl in Forrest Gump). The video itself was tinted blue/acqua. There were three "kimono" girls that made small appearances throughout the video. It was a little strange in that the video flashed between Jewel dancing and the three girls swaying. Check out some shots of Jewel riding a horse. That was cool. Finally, the credits for the video took up about half the screen. Personally, I liked the YWMFM videos a lot better. However, maybe this video will grow on me. John - ---------------------------------------------------- sammy3@ix.netcom.com http://ng.simplenet.com ER Website: http://ng.simplenet.com/er/ (now with video, sound, fanfiction, news, and more) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:45:20 -0400 (EDT) From: EDAngel1@aol.com Subject: OceanFest 97' Fellow EDAs, First of all I would like to thank Mandy for letting me stay at her HUGE (hehe) apartment! Then I would like to thank Jimmy, Leif, and Vinny for putting up with me on Saturday. :) Okay, now I will give you a brief summary about my little adventure down in San Diego.....Umm...first I got lost and couldn't find Java Joes.. :( I had to call Mandy a couple of times but I finally made it there lucky enough :) Then we all headed back to Mandy's apartment. We stayed up till around 2 listening to Igor and Eric. :) Then we all had to find a little square foot space that we could claim to be our bed for the night. hehe, just in case anybody was wondering--Mandy's apartment is not really designed for 7 people! :) Then I was awakened Saturday morning by an alarm clock that sounded like a nuclear explosion! (boy does Mandy have her alarm clock volume high ;) ) Mandy went to pick up "crazy" Lora and her partner in crime: Natalie. (Just in case anybody was wondering, yes, Lora is crazy!!!! Somebody really needs to monitor her daily sugar intake!!! Heehee, but you were quite entertaining Lora! :) Oh, and thanks for the chocolate!) In the meantime I went with Phil, Jimmy, Leif, and Vinny down to Ocean Beach where we met up with Gerrit (sp?) and CJ and his family. Since I was the only one who REMEMBERED to bring their EDA shirt I was volunteered to wear mine while we were at the beach. :) Leif, Jimmy, Vinny, and I decided that we were hungry around 11:15 so we trotted down to the nearest eating establishment. We were all starving so at 11:30 we decided to order some LUNCH. Well...little did we know that "Dempsy Burgers" did NOT serve LUNCH on Saturdays until EXACTLY 12:00, that's right, up until 11:59 they ONLY serve breakfast. Since we all wanted to eat Lunch, and not some eggs and pancakes, we decided to sit down at a table and wait until 12. I was so hungry that I seriously considered eating some napkins for some fiber nourishment! I was too delirious to pay any attention but I swear that Leif must have eaten some of the plant that was on our table (the plant was only meant for decoration of course). By the way, did anybody know that "Leif" is not her real name? Hehe. :) Okay, I am totally rambling now so let's fastforward to Sat. night(in between this time I got to meet a lot of other EDAs including John-Eric and Farr) We all met up at Java Joes to hear a young lady by the name of Randi Driscoll perform. I think I instantly fell in love with "Java Joes". It didn't matter WHO was performing on stage, I would have loved them all the same. Ummm..I'm not saying that Randi is not talented,,,no-no, I think she is very talented! :) Hehe, I even bought her CD :) After the performance at Java Joes was over I was convinced that I MUST moved to San Diego!! :) Hehe, I Literally fell in love with the place! :) Okay, so there was a lot more things that happened in between but I'm way toooo tired right now! :( I seriously have only slept 15 hours within the last 4 days....so I'm sorry that my post is soooo long and sooooo incoherent! :( Well, I just wanted to let everybody know that I had a great time and can't wait to go to another EDA gathering! :) I think I am now a bigger EDA fan than I am a Jewel Fan!!! :) You guys are just the greatest!!!! I love you all!!!! :) Take care my angels-- Mary the wannabe angel :) BTW-Lora!!!!!! Stop trying to lure my newbie away from me!!! :) Heehee :) I really need to get some sleep :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Coolmen123@aol.com Subject: If you read the "What do we stand for" thing read this When I wrote my post a couple days ago it was not for the intention of offending anyone, wich it seemed to me (judging by the posts regaurding it) did it was mearly a attempt to get a conversation started and I ask you to disreguard it .... Thanx EDA Aaron :) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:45:52 -0700 From: screamgurrl Subject: NJC..... read! > > Anyone has a "Tamagotchi".... > If anyone does please write to me!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:57:33 -0400 (EDT) From: MandyP311@aol.com Subject: Who are Anais Nin and Henry Miller? Hi people....Well one of my favorite Jewel song's, possibly even my favorite is the Morning Song, bu tthe last few times I have listened to it, I have wondered, who are these two? Any help you can give I appreciate! Mandy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: Tape Bag After reading my last digest, I see there is little support for the tape bag idea? Well, I think it is a great idea... only it's very difficult for me to get access to the WWW and have been unable to sign up, and it's unclear when I can. Could we possibly just do an e-mail signup on the list? I would even volunteer wholeheartedly to have all signups sent to me (miazgama@pilot.msu.edu), and then I can send them to whoever is conducting the pairings. I do think it is a _great_ idea; I love hearing about new, hard-to-find music, and have plenty of it to share as well. So, whoever called for the mix tape bag idea, tell me what you think about me collecting names (I'm volunteering because for the next two weeks, I'm working overnights... very boring... but I have e-mail access and it's really the only thing to do at work... so I'd be happy to collect names, e-mail addresses, postal addresses, anything... just tell me how you're collecting and the data you're collecting...) Mark - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA ******************************* "Yeah I don't sleep, I only dream, a caffeine hole burning through my spleen" -- Brenda Kahn "Days like this, I love you so much, I just want to rip off your head" -- Maggie Estep "A girl called me on the phone... She said come over, there's nobody home... I went over. There was nobody home." -- Rodney Dangerfield ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:04:52 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: Read, Possibly Message From Jewel!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got this exactly at 3:02 central time..... the question is, that is it really from Jewel??????????/ Margaret gosiam@juno.com *The*Hyper*Angel* On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:36:40 -0700 JewelJK@aol.com writes: >Hi Margaret.... > > >The Vinyl CD requires a special sort of CD player...you can't run >it on a regular one :) > >Hope it helped... > >Jewel > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:17:17 -0700 From: "Christian Schmidt" Subject: Re: Who are Anais Nin and Henry Miller? Henry Miller and Anais Nin were both authors around 1900, Henry Miller had a wife named June who (correct me if I'm wrong) was either bisexual or messed up in the head (something causing marital turmoil) and once when Henry travelled to France he met Anais Nin and they had a love affair. Henry Miller and Anais Nin are both known for their sometimes erotic writing style and were the focus of a movie called "Henry and June" released about 20 years ago as R but now changed to NC-17. Hope that does it for ya :) Christian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:18:38, -0500 From: AMXD99A@prodigy.com (MISS ANAIS NIN) Subject: Re: Anaïs Nin and Henry Miller Anaïs Nin and Henry Miller were both writers. It's a long story...I could tell it, but I'm sure I'd ramble on and take up too much space. They made a movie about it with Uma Thurman...it's called Henry and June. I belive it's rated NC-17. There's also some really nice web sites about them :). - -Caroline ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:31:19 -0400 From: "Brian Day" Subject: NJC: Sorry, HI!!! That was me named "College Computer Center". I forgot to change my name over to Brian first.... =) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:07:41 -0400 From: "College Computer Center" Subject: NJC: Hi Guys!! I found a computer whose mail preferences I could edit at the college I am staying at so I now I can keep in touch..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:32:38 -0500 From: Jessica Subject: Re: I MET LENEDRA Am711@aol.com wrote: > > I am thoroughly confused. Jewel calls her mom Nedra. Nedra calls herself > Nedra. But anyone else seems to call her Lenedra. Does anyone know what that > is all about?!?! > Luv and kisses, > Am obviously, because Nedra is short for Lenedra. Some people call me "Jess." Some say, "Jessi." Others call me "Jessica." What I'm confused about is why Jewel doesn't call her "mom" instead. ??? Peace, Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:42:09 -0700 From: Gerrit Kruidhof Subject: Angelfood Circle Hi everyone!!! I have discussed this idea with a few EDAs and have a small group which will start this, but I am interested in more contributors. The idea is that of an Angelfood Concert Tape Circle. The only people who will be members is those that have both the equipment and the time to copy tapes for others. EDAs will be able to get copies of tapes by simply filling out a request on the web, or filling out a form and sending it to Angelfood@endor.org. Any non-trade orders will be dispersed to those least full with copying tapes. All trade requests will be thrown in a list for the members to scan and take at will in order that those most interested in what is being offered for trade can take them up on it. In any case, what it all comes down to is this. 1) A lower load for us EDAs who are bogged down with copying tapes. 2) A fully automated process giving us back precious time we would otherwise not have. 3) A more accessable way for EDAs to get free copies of Jewel tapes. Right now, I have been ignoring (Yes, sorry.. just throwing 'em in a folder) tape requests as I just moved and have been quite busy; enough so that I don't even have my tape deck set up yet (tho it will be this week). I will be working on the automated portion of this idea on the web shortly. What I would like now, however, is anyone interested in actually copying tapes for others to come forward. If yo only have a boom-box or something, don't bother. We need people who have good equipment. It doesn't have to be $1k stuff, but if you can copy your tapes and barely tell the difference (if at all), then it's probably a good bet. :) If your stereo has HX-Pro (i believe that's what it's called), then we're all happy. =) Please e-mail me at AngelfoodMember@endor.org and I'll get back to you soon. This does include .. of course .. access to quite a lot of Jewel tapes quite quickly so we can get this started once I get the Web portion running. Gerrit P.S. I'll post my weekend in review soon! I have to write it first! ;P P.P.S. Hi Man-D, Rebecca, Larry, Farr, Lora, Nat, Tom, Nancy, Igor, and everyone else who made the weekend awesome! =) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: Who are Anais Nin and Henry Miller? On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 MandyP311@aol.com wrote: > Hi people....Well one of my favorite Jewel song's, possibly even my favorite > is the Morning Song, bu tthe last few times I have listened to it, I have > wondered, who are these two? They are both authors of some repute. Henry Miller was the author of, at the time, a number of contraversial novels including Tropic of Cancer and Tropic of Capricorn. Anais Nin was more known for her diaries which are an often frank account of the loss of innocence. Miller and Nin had a relationship, which became the basis of the film, _Henry_and_June_ (June being June Miller, Henry's wife, also an object of desire of Miss Nin.) James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:43:39 -0500 From: BeefJerky the Computer Dude Subject: Re: Vinyl CD I'm 17 and I remember them. Still have quite a few records, including alot of Beatles (no white album though, darn)...ya know I've played some of those records through my stereo and to me they sound just as good as CD's (I have a good stereo, so if there was much of a difference I'd hear it)...I wish they still did sell records, ya know...I still have some 8-tracks too. --BeefJerky At 12:27 AM 7/14/97 -0700, you wrote: >JonBoy911@aol.com wrote: >> >> In a message dated 97-07-13 14:01:35 EDT, SDAngelLI@aol.com writes: >> >> << Does this make anybody else feel old. >> >> SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl >> >> I'm 15, and I knew what it was. Jeez, when Gremlins came out the Happy >> Meal toy was a Gremlins read-along w/ the record, books. Those were the >> days. >> JonBoy911 > >I'm 18 and I remember my FIRST vinyl albums, Hall and Oates, and Michael >Jackson's Thriller--I loved those! I still do, actually. :) Awww, the >memories. Heh, I still have them somewhere... hard to believe that my >kids will probably look at vinyl the way my sister looks at >8-tracks--"what the heck are THOSE things?" Hee, hee... :) > >jane >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ >{\o/} > /_\ "Sometimes it be that way..." -Jewel > >"Instinct is the voice of God. That's how He speaks to us." -Oprah > > Most men prefer looks to brains, because most men see better > than they think. >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:37:43 EDT From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: NJC Dedicated Poem and Somebody Get Me Off the List!!! :) I tried to unsubscribe but I keep getting error messages and I'm still getting digests. Could someone please take me off the list? :) And yes, I did save the original mail with instructions, but it's not working! Anyways, this will be my last post until I come back. :) I just saw the Foolish Games video on VH1 this morning at 9:15am PST!!!!! Oh man! I LOVE it!!!!! In my opinion, it's the best video that Jewel's ever done! I love the idea about the body double! I was just so excited about seeing it for the first time! She's gorgeous on that horse! :D Okay...here's a poem I would like to dedicate to a great, wonderful girl on here...Linda. Last night I broke up with her, and I may have been a fool for doing it. I just felt doubtful about some things in our relationship. I just lost my love for her as a girlfriend, but I lost something even more important...her friendship. She refuses to speak to me now, and it's tearing me apart. I've received a lot of help from some of you EDAs and for that, I thank you. I don't want to force a relationship with Linda, but she's become a piece of me now, and without her I feel part of me is missing...her. __Don't Shut Me Out__ It's time to move on Let's forget about the past We knew it wouldn't last. We're two shooting stars Each going in different directions Sometimes changing directions Sometimes passing each other by Maybe one day, we'll meet each other Then maybe there'll be something between us we can't deny. I still love you But it's not the same love it was before I still ask for your friendship But instead you close the door But I will wait outside and wait for you You still mean a lot to me I'll go down on my knee And make one last plea Please don't shut me out like this It's cold out here Because you're no where near I'm feeling numb The only numb part of me that still has feeling Is my heart But I will wait outside and wait for you It wasn't suppose to come to this I want to be friends like we were before So please open up the door I still love and care for you And that's no lie I'll always be here for you Waiting Hoping Dreaming I'm your angel standing by Thanks for reading... Mark - --- Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. - --Jewel "Absence of Fear" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:48:58, -0500 From: AMXD99A@prodigy.com (MISS ANAIS NIN) Subject: Re: Who are Anais and Henry? Henry Miller and Anais Nin were both authors around 1900, Henry Miller had a wife named June who (correct me if I'm wrong) was either bisexual or messed up in the head (something causing marital turmoil) and once when Henry travelled to France he met Anais Nin and they had a love affair. Henry Miller and Anais Nin are both known for their sometimes erotic writing style and were the focus of a movie called "Henry and June" released about 20 years ago as R but now changed to NC-17. Hope that does it for ya :) Christian Are you sure Henry and June was released 20 years ago? Uma Thurman was in it, and she'd be only a child then. Anais was born in Neuilly, just outside Paris. She spent her childhood in various parts of Europe until, when she was eleven, her father, Spanish composer Joaquin Nin, abandoned his family and left for America; in the same year, her French-Danish mother, Rosa Culmell, took Anais and her two sons to New York where Anais began to write her journals. In 1923 she married Hugo Guiler. She remained in America for 12 years before returning to Paris, where for a while she lived in a houseboat on the Seine. Having worked from the age of fifteen as a model and dancer, then as a teacher and lecturer, she later became a practising psychoanalyst under Otto Rank. In Paris she and Hugo supported various avant-garde artists, among them Henry Miller with whom Anais started a hot affair and exchanged hundreds of letters. Anais moved back to New York just before the outbreak of World War II. She divided her life between New York and Los Angeles, between Hugo and Rupert, a much younger lover and friend. From being a cult figure of the early feminist movement, Anais later rose to international prominence with her writing. She is best known for her diaries but also produced a number of novels and a prose poem in surrealistic style. Characterized by the use of powerful and, at times, disquieting imagery, her work reveals great sensitivity and perception. In 1973 she received an honorary doctorate from Philadelphia College of Art. She was elected to the National Institute of Arts and Letters in 1974. She's remembered a lot for her passionate involvement with Henry and his wife June Mansfield. - -Caroline "I am possessed by a fever for knowledge, experience, and creation." -Anais Nin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:59:23 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: Re: NJC Dedicated Poem and Somebody Get Me Off the List!!! :) ok i'm posting twice on this... someone please talk to me :< i'm just.. overwhelmed with emotion right now.. mark's left for canada for the next week or two.. i'm almost dead here... please someone talk to me ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:57:46 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: Re: NJC Dedicated Poem and Somebody Get Me Off the List!!! :) someone try to help me stop crying.... :< jesus..... i kinda hinted about this before to you all.. i guess he went and told you the rest of it.. i can't speak at this... On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Sparks the Everyday Angel wrote: > I tried to unsubscribe but I keep getting error messages and I'm still > getting digests. Could someone please take me off the list? :) And yes, > I did save the original mail with instructions, but it's not working! > > Anyways, this will be my last post until I come back. :) > > I just saw the Foolish Games video on VH1 this morning at 9:15am PST!!!!! > Oh man! I LOVE it!!!!! In my opinion, it's the best video that Jewel's > ever done! I love the idea about the body double! I was just so excited > about seeing it for the first time! She's gorgeous on that horse! :D > > Okay...here's a poem I would like to dedicate to a great, wonderful girl > on here...Linda. Last night I broke up with her, and I may have been a > fool for doing it. I just felt doubtful about some things in our > relationship. > > I just lost my love for her as a girlfriend, but I lost something even > more important...her friendship. She refuses to speak to me now, and > it's tearing me apart. > > I've received a lot of help from some of you EDAs and for that, I thank > you. I don't want to force a relationship with Linda, but she's become a > piece of me now, and without her I feel part of me is missing...her. > > __Don't Shut Me Out__ > > It's time to move on > Let's forget about the past > We knew it wouldn't last. > > We're two shooting stars > Each going in different directions > Sometimes changing directions > Sometimes passing each other by > Maybe one day, we'll meet each other > Then maybe there'll be something between us we can't deny. > > I still love you > But it's not the same love it was before > I still ask for your friendship > But instead you close the door > > But I will wait outside and wait for you > You still mean a lot to me > I'll go down on my knee > And make one last plea > Please don't shut me out like this > > It's cold out here > Because you're no where near > I'm feeling numb > The only numb part of me that still has feeling > Is my heart > > But I will wait outside and wait for you > It wasn't suppose to come to this > I want to be friends like we were before > So please open up the door > I still love and care for you > And that's no lie > I'll always be here for you > Waiting > Hoping > Dreaming > I'm your angel standing by > > > > Thanks for reading... > > Mark > --- > Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's > waiting for you. > --Jewel "Absence of Fear" > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:10:25 -0400 (EDT) From: rIver Subject: Steve Poltz Gotta a quck question here. In the non-Sean Penn version of YWMFM, there's a guy acting with Jewel in it. Now, I haven't seen the video in a while, but I just saw VH-1's Hard Rock Live last night. Jewel introduced Steve and they sand "Silver Lining" together. I've also read that the actor in the YWMFM video is Steve Poltz. Is that true? It sure as heck didn't look like the same person though :) Or I may just be blind... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:21:57 -0500 From: rlw1@cec.wustl.edu (Rob White) Subject: First Post Hello all! I was thinking today that I've been on this list for several months and never posted. I figured today would be a good day, as I am home from work recovering from a dislocated shoulder. I enjoy reading all of your posts! Second, I am Angelfood-less, so if anyone would be interested in making some dubs for me (JewelStock and Rare Angels in particular), I would be forever grateful. - -Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:35:40 -0500 (EST) From: SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Subject: Sleater Kinney Concert II So like I said we arrive at Penn station and start walking around looking for MacDonalds. I knew that it was down by the LIRR area and not by the NJ Transit part of the station, so we all go downstairs. Thirza keeps on saying "this is like a mall. this is so cool." We look for McDs to get Kelly from there but we go down the wrong end ofthe hallway (my bad, sorry guys). Steve starts randomly talking to this woman who was homeless. Finally we reach the McDonalds and Kelly, and Steve and I are talking to this woman. It really hit me hard. So many people pass by homeless people immediately assuming that because they are homeless they are bad or necessarily substance abusers or evil people. And they aren't. Not necessarily. They are people with souls and minds and hearts and eyes and smiles just like us. They are people with stories to tell, with pain, with joy, with love. I am very very very sensitive to all that, and I kept on talking to this woman. Sometimes having someome sit there and talk to you and listen to you can do more for your heart and your soul than any amount of money or any meal can do. For some reason the line "I only need to make love just to know I'm real" from "Tine Love Spaces" just popped into my head. Sometimes we need to just talk to each other and embrace each other with kindness and soul just to remind ourselves and each other that yes we are real and not some figment of someone's imagination. And I gave the woman a cheeseburger. And we had to leave cuz we were late for the concert. And I was still pretty overwhelmed by it all. So we get to the concert, and Pete, Kelly, and I go to find some shade. I just stood there people watching, sorta letting the music become background music. Kelly whipped out her book. Pete sat there listening or thinking or doing whatever. And at the end we made our way back to the meeting place, wherewe finally met up with Russ and Abel. Thirza and TOm were soaking wet. Kelly needed to get wet, she was so hot. We all bought water and d ecided to walk to Tower Records, but first we were going to hit HMV (no, Steve, not HIV) Records since it was closer, since Pete's time was limited. On the way there we had to find an ATM and we found one at a bank. Right outside the bank there were people with a bunch of kittens who needed homes and the couple street merchants that speckle the streets of the Upper West Side. While people were at the ATM Steve and I crossed the street to this gourmet deli to get some juice. We get carrot ginger juice, which i have never had, but it sounded like an adventure. So Steve and I tried to get other people to try it and stuff, and everyone got these nauseous looks on their faces after a sip. I thought it was pretty good actually. So I am walking with Steve, walking with Russ, talking n stuff. Kelly is dying of thirst, as is everyone else, and she goes to a deli like place to get water. We are all drinking water, drinking water, drinking water. Abel, the one with the "line of the day," says: I AM *NOT* SIGNING THAT WATER BOTTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We reach HMV and hang out. I got the Patty Griffin album for only $7!!!! I was psyched. I could actually AFFORD something!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! Pete had to leave. I LOVE YOU PETE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pete was such a sweetie. Really. So we are standing outside HMV, and we remember that we hafta walk down to 18th street for Steve's shoes. But some people wanted to go to Tower Records. RUss and I start walking with the understanding that we are going to Tower. And we look behind us and see no one. We were afraid that they went down the wrong street (at 72nd street Broadway, where we were and wanted to continue down, and Amsterdam cross in an X like formation), so we were looking for them. We walk backwards only to find everyone else sitting on the street corner. It was so funny. Finally we go to Tower. I listen to Tara McLean on the listening station. I saw a Paula Cole poster/promotional thing that I liked, and Steve stole it for me (HA!). We lost kElly and later found her listening to Foolish Games repeatedly on the listening booth with the batman and robin soundtrack. hee hee hee. she boughtthe album only for the song. I think she was bouncing around the store with excitement. she told us a few zillion times how happy she was. ok. so we leave. Steve and I want to walk from 66 St. down to 18 St. for his shoes. No big deal, not even 50 blocks. A bit under 3 miles, more like 2.5 Nothing, really. Everyone thought we were crazy. So we took a subway. Tom and Thirza were talking to Random Girl From Holland about the CDs they bought and about the S-K concert. We get to our stop. Steve bolts out of the train station ahead of us and goes to the shoe store. He *just* made it. It was weird. It was also then that Abel learned the Tickle Me Stephanie trick. And he reminded Russ and Thirza of it who showed Kelly the finger poking trick. She had TOO much fun with it...as if her finger had just become a new toy she bought at Toys R Us or something. Geesh. I wonder if people will ever get sick and tired of tickling me so much as to let me just relax for one minute without laughing so much that tears are streaming down my face. We walk a bit and pass a store type of place. Tom goes inside and gets some refreshing beverages. It was interesting. We go down to the subway to go back to Brooklyn, and Tom sits on the base of the steps starting to distribute the goods. It was weird. We get to Brooklyn and decide to go to the school grounds to hang out for a bit and to share some whipped cream. (I know, that's so random, it was just one of those everything-is-so-totally-random days). ("I love you, man," I said as I leaned on Steve. "And I love you and you and you and you...and kelly, YOU RAWK" hee hee hee remember?) We get back to Thirza's place. We order pizza. We watch A Time to Kill with Daddy Pearl. I get on AOL enjoying it for the first time ever (I don't have AOL), and we listen to Jewel stuff. Chels calls and we play the game of Pass the Chelsea. It was a bit too familiar, tho I loved talkign to Chels (sorry the battery went out in the middle of our conversation love). CHels is mah sista. =) I got tired after a while, and I cuddled up to Steve. Kelly sat in his lap for a while. Steve really gives great hugs. I got tons and tons of them all day from him. at like 1 or so Daddy Pearl gives us the boot and we drive Kelly home, getting lost. We listen to Foolish Games for a trillion and a half times, and we are all belting it out at the top of our lungs. Then we listen to this folk singer I LOVE and wanted to introduce to everyone named Jane Kelyl Williams. She RAWKS. We get to Kelly's and say goodbye. I MISS YOU KELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She will always be the "whipped cream mama." We drive back to Abel's and hang out. Steve and I fall asleep on one of Abel's bunk beds, and Tom sleeps on the floor. At like 5:30 in the morning Steve Abel and I get up and take a walk outside (I will never forget that). The sky was beautiful. Magentas and pinks and turquoise and blue. beautiful. then we go back to sleep. The next morning comes and we have to go. =~( Abel walks us out to the car, and I think we were ALL a bit teary eyed saying goodbye to him, even though we are all gonna see each other at Bearsville (I CANT WAIT). I LOVE YOU ABEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He gives great great great warm hugs. =) We go to Steve's house to drop him off. I was ready to start bawling my eyes out as I said goodbye to him. I LOVE YOU STEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really, Steve, I miss you. I missed you as soon as the car pulled away from your house. And then Tom and I go home, getting hella expensive lunches from Roy Rogers and talking and stuff. It was a great weekend. Very Very Very Memorable. And I miss everyone terribly. And I love everyone so so so so so so so so so much. I LOVE ALL OF YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stephanie. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:42:26 -0400 From: Rael Subject: NJC: Re: Good and Bad? Gianfranco Covello wrote: > > Hi all, thought i should share this, > Ok, about the difference of good and bad people.. Hey Gian, you forgot to mention "the Ugly"...so, what's your view on them? Sorry, for the short post, but I just had to do it! I love the movie, what can I say! Your fellow EDA, Bill P. - -- "I'd rather see the world from another angle..."--Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:46:40 -0700 From: Gerrit Kruidhof Subject: Re: POY on Vinyl/Vinyl CD/DVD Jane107@aol.com wrote: > > so if i buy one of these i'm not gonna be able 2 play it unless i spend 500 > bucks on a dvd player? > ~Christina "1 confused angel" For all you silly clueless people, Vinyls are just regular Records. You know.. like BEFORE CDs there were tapes.. and before tapes there were Recods.. and *gasp* they were called Vinyls. =) Sorry to spoil the fun for some of ya.. ;> eheheh Gerrit ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #559 ***************************