From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #555 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, July 14 1997 Volume 02 : Number 555 Today's Subjects: ----------------- EDAC:Kinneyfest 2 [Grrly1@aol.com] UGHHHH [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] EDAC:Kinneyfest 3 [Grrly1@aol.com] EDAC:Kinneyfest 5 [Grrly1@aol.com] EDAC:Kinneyfest 4 [Grrly1@aol.com] What do we stand for? [Coolmen123@aol.com] Re: NJC< but this saddens me... [EFraser311@aol.com] NJC: Re: What do we stand for? ["Nathan" ] NJC: My sister's birthday is tomorrow 7-14-97 PLEASE READ!! [Joshua Baumm] anyone have the 6/27/97 san diego show?? [Eli ] NJC Going away for a while [sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Ange] NJC: Removale of my molars =( [Joshua Baummer ] NJC: OCEANFEST STORY!!! [That Little Voice Inside Your Head ] Re: Vinyl CD (fwd) [Emilia Garvey ] Re: I want MARS [Fett30@aol.com] Re: More about EDAs [tom morales ] Re: More about EDAs ["Christopher S. Penn '97" ] Re: Jewel MOO! [BeefJerky the Computer Dude ] Re: I want MARS [Joe ] Re: NJC: Re: Vinyl CD (DVD) [BeefJerky the Computer Dude ] Re: NJC:Free Issue of LAUNCH on-line [BeefJerky the Computer Dude we went to my house. Ordered pizza from dominoes. Kelly and tom watched "a time to kill" with my dad, while stephanie commandered my computer. abel was listening to his new YWMFM german import... while practically falling asleep. my dad actually left the room for a little while and left us all alone ! we made tapes, and trades. then at 1am my dad kicked everyone out. (but not before abel gave me a bottle of his finest wine... (or his moms finest wine...) um... thats it i guess... was it long enough for you? "KELLY ROCKS!!!!!" ;) Thirza Pearl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:00:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Grrly1@aol.com Subject: EDAC:Kinneyfest 4 well there was no doubt that there was a sleater-kinney concert there today... the wave of people flooding into the park was mostly riot grrlish teenage girls. we did see two women with baby carrages they seemed surprised by the crowd, then asked if there was a concert there today or something (yes). as we took teh long walk to teh summerstage i heard lots of music, but most was being sung by guys so i wasnt too worried... tehn i heard teh familiar sound of Guitars, and corin tuckers voice... i stopped, listened and freaked out. They were singing "little babies" one of my favorite Sleater-kinney songs... i then grabbed toms hand and RAN. as we were entering the gates of the summerstage section there were a few people, around 40 years old sitting down, one of them said "ahh... alittle soft rock to relax to" i looked back at him and said "Soft rock??" i was in a bit of shock that they thought that. we werent too late. because i knew "little babies" was an opening song. tom said "do you wanna get closer" and i of course did, so somehow he pushed us up to the 4th row (i love you tom!) and when i could finally see teh band (i'm short) i was pretty surprised. i have pictures of them on my wall, and from the CDs, and magazines... and they looked So different in person. like Jewel looks pretty much the same on paper and in person, but they looked completely different. i hardly recognized Carrie, the Guitarist/singer (as opposed to corin who is the Singer/Guitarist) Carrie had gotten a hair cut and my first thought was "woah... why is there a boy in carrie's place?"because only saw her from behind at first.when she turned around she looked adorable... she had red cheeks and was jumping around with the guitar (she had more energy than the entire crowd put together) i kept looking back at tom, whos eyes were wide open, he seemed very engorged in the music. i then remember my camera, i took it out and had tom take a Whole role of pictures of them for me (he was taller and could shoot over peoples heads) if those pictures dont come out i'm gonna die. The audience was possibly the most entertaining part of the entire day. (except for the band, who was in a realm of their own) there was a very tall young black guy in front of me who was bopping along to the music, a la steve poltz (you all know how steve bops) there was a girl to my right that i swear looked like rider strong from boy meets world. scary thing is she pulled it off better than him ;). i think i was teh only girl in the audience with hair below my shoulders. everyone had short trendy style hair. i was dancing/jumping to the music along with everyone else. and my pigtails were flying around. the show was actually longer than i expected, they usually like to limit their sets to 20-40 minutes, but this one was 55. when a song was over and everyone clapped and yelled i think i heard tom yelling louder than anyone else in the audience... i think i turned him into a huge fan. (and he was the only one i expected to NOT like them) they sang all of my favorite songs, but corins microphone was too low. and we could hardly hear her. they sang "I wanna be your joey ramone" and the crowd went absolutley wild. for their second to last song they did a semi-slow song, called "Not what you want". and they intro'd it as "This is a slow jam, so you can put some sun block on the person next to you"... and the sun block was definelty needed... it was about 90 degrees but with a crowd of 500 t0 1,000 kids dancing around you it felt like 105 degrees. but it was a good feeling. the sweat wasnt bothering me. Tom said "they shoudl get a mosh pit started" which surpised the hell outta me... then again... why WASNT there a mosh pit? Corin comented "Theres so many of you... yet youre so polite" to which a guy responded "Thats because we like what we see". there was not a "take it off" in the whole crowd, but if there was he woulda gotten alot more than a "fuck you" (carrie once kicked a microphone stand down on a guy for harrassing her). what really freightened me was that this crowd was better, and more respective than any Crowd at a jewel show ever was. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:20:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Coolmen123@aol.com Subject: What do we stand for? I have a question for all the people on this mailing list and that is, it seems to me we enjoy our group because we share common interests and we look to each other for friendship and someone to talk to. We talk about how we can better each other and how we can better ourselves and the group as a whole. But my question is what are we doing for other people? We talk to each other, we do activities together, but the activities seem to revolve solely on one thing: our entertainment. I've only been on this list a few weeks but I've noticed that most of the posts are either about all the fun things that we do or about how we are such "angels", but in truth, let's think here, what do we do that's so great? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: EFraser311@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC< but this saddens me... Sorry for posting that last message to the list-----I meant to reply only to that person...sorry, had a rough weekend and my brain isn't exactly functioning well today, and my message probably made no sense at all... Ali :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:01:59 +0000 From: "Nathan" Subject: NJC: Re: What do we stand for? coolmen123@aol.com wrote: > I've only been on this list a few > weeks but I've noticed that most of the posts are either about all the fun > things that we do or about how we are such "angels", but in truth, let's > think here, what do we do that's so great? > Being an EDA is a state of mind as much as it is actions. As EDAs, we try to be kind to eachother and those outside our community. In fact being kind to other EDAs is a great way to make kindness a habit. By "kind" I mean being tolerant and compassionate; not assuming the worst in people. Now addressing what EDAs do that's so great... There's the JPK fund. There's the tree-planting that's happening right now. There's the constant urge to give blood as often as possible. There's the availability of angelfood to all who request it. There's the immediate response to anyone in trouble or anyone who has a friend who needs assistance There's the openness of this list thatreminds us all that we need never be totally alone. I should mention that I've only been on the list for a couple of months and these are all things that I've seen discussed as current issues AND I've surely missed many. (Let alone the things that happened before I had an e-mail address!) Not all of what EDAs do betters the whole world. Most of the time it's just a little action with the consideration that we (that's anyone with a pulse) are ALL everyday angels. When you add thousands of those actions up, I guess the world is a tiny bit better. Doncha think? Nathan dogslife@bigfoot.com "Always find a way to call out of another the highest in themselves." - Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:18:03 -0400 From: Joshua Baummer Subject: NJC: My sister's birthday is tomorrow 7-14-97 PLEASE READ!! Hey all, This has nothing to do with Jewel but my sister's birthday is tomorrow 7-14-97. She has no idea about this so could all EDA's flood my mailbox with a happy birthday please. Her name is Kari Baummer she willl be 22 years old I want to SUPRISE her so give me an E-mail tonight or tomorrow she will beable to get on-line at 5:30pm tomorrow so any time between then =) Thanks alot! Josh An EDA forever. P.S. In your message say something to the affect that you are an EDA. P.SS. I AM SOOO EXITED ABOUT BEARSVILLE'97!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:14:57 -0500 From: Eli Subject: anyone have the 6/27/97 san diego show?? Hi Angels! I was wondering if any of you have the San Diego Show that was on 6/27/97. it would be greatly appreciated if you mail me back if you have it! thanks! Haloes and wings to you all!--Eli, an EDA elilieb@lisco.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:50:46 EDT From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: NJC Going away for a while Hi Angels, I'll be leaving for Vancouver tomorrow and will be back on this 25th. If you e-mail me after tomorrow morning, don't expect a response until then because I won't have e-mail access up there. I'll be unsubbing and I'm really gonna miss this list! :( To all the people that are still expecting angelfood from me, I'm really sorry, but you'll have to wait until I come back. I tried sending them out yesterday, but I was too late. Continue being angels everyday and I'll talk to you wonderful people when I get back! :) Mark - --- Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. - --Jewel "Absence of Fear" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:49:00 -0400 From: Joshua Baummer Subject: NJC: Removale of my molars =( Hello my EDA's, First this is not to be a thread! OK, pretty soon I am going to the dentist (not one of my favorite places) and for about a year and a half my dentist has been on me about removing me 4 molars. But first I have Epilepsy and my friend's girlfriend's mom has Eplilpsy to and she had her molars out about 2 months ago or so and accidently put to much novican in her mouth and she had a BIG siezer she had to go into the hospitol for a week and a half. So my mom is hasintint she want's to talk to my neroligist first. So what I am asking should I go through with it,I mean they don't hurt and I don't want them out. a little while ago there was a thread about Jewel's bottom teeth being crocked mine are a hair crocked also if she doesn't have her molars out and I know alot of audlts who don't have there's out it can effect the crockedness of your teeth. So what is your advice for me should I or shouldn't I do it they don't hurt. Feedback! Josh An EDA forever. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:53:08 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: NJC: OCEANFEST STORY!!! Ok, Here's It Goes Me And Natalie's Adventure! Once Upon A Time,(yesterday) There Were Two Girls,(you know who!) who stayed up a wee bit late, to get ready for an Oceanfest Shindig! They stayed up all night on Dr.Pepper. The next morning the alarm went off and one girl slammed the snooze heheheh. (that's Lora :)<--me) Any hoo after all the getting ready, they checked over it and yada yada yada. =20 Then....they waited for our knightress in a shining convertable (and waited, and waited j/k Man-D) FINALLY their hero arrived :) they were relieved when they heard a *beep* *beep* of the horn and saw a wave of a hand. They hopped in the car and off they were to...OCEANFEST!!!(97 of course). They battled with their hair as the wind twisted and pulled it in all sorts of weird situations! Then, they arrived, and headed onto the sand to meet some of the WEIRDEST people (j/k Gerrit, Phil, CJ, Leif, Jimmy, and Vinnie or Vinny) any hoo they hearded a whine, it was their trustful stean Gerrit he needed SHORTS hehehe so they offered him some help they walked him around OB and well, heheheh they weren't much help either! Gerrit of course did not like any of their choices! So after that they all headed over to a little wee place called "The Black" and picked out a candle, and a bumper sticker which of course when Gerrit tried to pay with his roommates credit card they would not expect so, One Girl (me me me) being the coolest person in the world that she is (hahahahha yeah) paid with HER money how un-called for ;). So the two chicks had an idea GERRIT would buy lunch hehehh so he did and they picked out songs on the jukebox, which never came on, and they boogied on back to the beach. Then....it was time, for one chickees story time :} hehehe and what a story time it was (you guys know what I'm talking about). Then the two chicks wandered off and decided to get on their swimsuits. So of course, they got them on and they jumped off to the water, and swam for a bit. Then, they got out and well....ummmmmm they decided to go swimming with Man-D and Gerrit and Phil and such. But, instead of swimmin they ended up having a seaweed/sand fight!!!! and boy! Did THEY kick GERRIT'S BOOTY!!!! :D heheheh Then they all decided to wash off. So, they did. Then it was SHOWERTIME for the two chicks! They both took SEPERATE showers heheheh and headed back off to the beach to meet and greet some new comers (FARR DA FARR, john-eric, Larry, Kris Kane, and The Morales') (Kaili YOU RAWK!!) They had a little sing along with compliments of Dr.Pepper and Hershey's Chocolate Bars.=20 It wasn't long after, that the whole gang shuffled off to JAVA JOE'S! The chicks and Kaili ventured off to MAX'S 99=A2 store and got some goofy stuff and One Chick (Natalie!!) and Kaili were no longer the people we thought they were but......THELMA & LOUISE !!!! Woohooo! They got all these pics taken and it was groovin and such . Then later that night.....on came a beautiful singer named.....Randi Driscoll! ( We love you even though you can't see that!) and they met....IGOR!!!! and They LOVED HIM and he soon became known as "Uncle Igor" to one chick (me me me me again) They got Randi to sign their newly bought cd's and that Crazy chick (CRAZY Lora) got a doll, and a jacket signed as well. Then they all got tucked in to their beds along with Jimmy stayin at the beach house. They had glorious dreams of the next day and what a next day, they arose by the knockin on the door from Leif and Vinny or Vinnie, and soon they called Man-D and made plans for Gerrit to buy lunch again heheheh at the Rusty Pelican woo woo woo with a hottie waiter named HARRY ( Harry you RAWK even though you don't see that) after their great feast they headed over to the Goodwill to get Man-D a scarf for her Marilyn Motif hehehh and how groovin she was lookin. Then, it was time, to say goodbye to everyone :'( but it's ok....because they are gonna be having a trip back to O.B. shortly, to see...STEVE POLTZ...but that's...another story. THE END Love You Till I Split Open And Melt, Lora "CRAZY Lora" The New- Coming Soon Angel, Natalie (Thelma says hi to Louise) ******************************************************* "Look...You're Standing Alone However.. I Should have known I should have known Never before, Never again You Will ignore, I will pretend Never before, Never again You Will Ignore, I Will Pretend" ~Cranberries ******************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:05:13 EDT From: stratman7@juno.com (JAMES R BAILEY) Subject: Re: stanley I agree, it sounds like a good idea A fellow EDA Jim " I'll get you my pretty..............and your little dog too." ~wicked witch of the west On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:17:37 +-100 "Shane ;o) NIN" writes: >I have to agree with stanley I think someone should write her letter >and get everyone on the list to sign it. What do yee think ? > >Irish Angel >Shane > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:05:12 EDT From: stratman7@juno.com (JAMES R BAILEY) Subject: Re: not about jewel ..... Megan, I'm so sorry to hear of your lost, I will pray for your friends. a fellow EDA Jim On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Rivers8805@aol.com writes: >angels -- > > Since all of you are the most caring individuals around, I thought I >would >share some tragic news with you, and ask for your prayers. On July >8th, Mykel, > Carli and Trysta Allen died in a car accident. I'm sure that most of >you >don't know who they are, but Mykel and Carli ran the weezer fan club >and were >fan club member #0001 and #0002 respectively. Trysta was their little, >only >18, sister. They were on their way home from a Weezer concert. > Mykel and Carli were two of the sweetest women alive. They talked >to fans >online, on the phone, at shows, and always did favors for any and all >weezer >fans, and everyone else. I had the pleasure of meeting them both, and >I >considered both of them friends. Trysta was also just like her >sisters, >always sweet and willing to help others. So, I ask all of you to keep >these >three angels in your prayers. > >*Megan* a shocked and sad angel =( > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:05:12 EDT From: stratman7@juno.com (JAMES R BAILEY) Subject: Re: New EDA here! Melissa: commentator at large welcome melissa, we are glad happy to have you with us. a fellow EDA Jim " I'll get you my pretty..............and your little dog too." ~wicked witch of the west ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:03:57 -0400 From: "Christopher S. Penn '97" Subject: More about EDAs Adrian and others, I think that you're definitely on the right track here. We've been lucky so far- there's no reason to think that our luck will continue OR vanish. But I'd like to illustrate this whole argument with a tiny piece of that Rolling Stone article. Jewel's hitchhiking down the side of a road, she's 15, and when the guy who picks her up asks her if she's worried about something happening, she pulls a knife out of her boot and asks, "Do you really want to fuck with me?" In case the point isn't immediately obvious, (some people might think I was advocating bootknives) we can have that special kind of innocence and still keep ourselves safe from harm. Jewel did it for most of her life, and we can too. In the words of Billy Joel, "Don't take shit from anyone!" Chris p.s. not that I think young women carrying bootknives is a bad thing. After all, it might dissuade some of our bad guys hunting our children if they knew that they all could flip a bootknife out and in seconds the innocent little girl is gone and a gator that grew teeth everywhere appeared! :) :) :) ........................................................................ Christopher S. Penn Nihon Mizumachi Kyokai ........................................................................ I have this theory, that if we're told we're bad Then that's the only idea we'll ever have But maybe if we are surrounded in beauty Someday we will become what we see - Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:57:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: Re: Vinyl CD (fwd) > << I was wondering: what is a vinyl cd anyways >> > > Does this make anybody else feel old. > > SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl > I do...and I'm 13!!! I feel like i grew up old i guess..how could someone not know what vinyl is?? :) In fact..unless otherwise proven..*email me you young'uns*...i might be the youngest subscribed eda.. :) I LOVE records the most...but you just can't take em anywhere..:) Oh..another thing..umm..never mind...:) see ya.. *its too darn hot* Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey A.K.A Gladys The Annoying Interrupting Cow _____________________________________________________________________ "Oh, I am the brainchild, I am the mortar, with a plastic trophy and an eating disorder and a vision as big as a great big wall and they tell me that I'll looked forward for the good of us all.." -Dar Williams "The Great Unknown ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:04:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Fett30@aol.com Subject: Re: I want MARS In a message dated 97-07-13 04:06:28 EDT, goat@voyager.net (Joe) writes: << PS. Don't you think the martians might take slight offense to us mere Earthlings selling their home? >> The American Indians didn't seem to mind ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:11:13 +0000 From: tom morales Subject: Re: More about EDAs > Chris > > p.s. not that I think young women carrying bootknives is a bad thing. After > all, it might dissuade some of our bad guys hunting our children if they > knew that they all could flip a bootknife out and in seconds the innocent > little girl is gone and a gator that grew teeth everywhere appeared! :) Are you for real? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:25:42 -0400 From: "Christopher S. Penn '97" Subject: Re: More about EDAs At 20:11 +0000 07/13/1997, tom morales wrote the following: > Are you for real? Am I for real? Like, do I exist or do I actually believe this? Well, yes, I exist. I'm not a bot. And do I believe this? To a very limited extent. I think that one of the great things about EDAs is our penchant for dealing with responsibility- and this includes personal responsibility for our own safety. Too often throughout history has the common man turned over responsibility to other parties, only to have himself crushed- feudal barons, dictatorial governments, madmen like Hitler. If personal responsibility for safety lapses ultimately in the hands of the average person, then as long as safety and training are included, I approve of children who can take care of themselves. We were having a discussion on the IRC about rape, and some of the REALLY sick people out there, and I can say for only myself that we need to fight against monsters like that AND also equip our kids with the tools they need to protect themselves. In Alaska, Jewel seemed to find a bootknife appropriate. Remember Ben Franklin- "he who sacrifices liberty for security shall have neither". ........................................................................ Christopher S. Penn Nihon Mizumachi Kyokai ........................................................................ I have this theory, that if we're told we're bad Then that's the only idea we'll ever have But maybe if we are surrounded in beauty Someday we will become what we see - Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:36:03 -0500 From: BeefJerky the Computer Dude Subject: Re: Jewel MOO! It can also be done with mIRC...takes a little figuring out. Add the server, for server name put Jewel.ml.org, for port put 3443. Simply put a / in front of everything you want to type. When connecting you would type /connect name password, then when you want to talk type /" then whatever you want to say... --BeefJerky At 11:59 AM 7/13/97 -0700, you wrote: >> > To connect to Jewel MOO, telnet to: >> > >> > jewel.ml.org port 3443 >> > >> > and connect as a guest or create a character. Once you've >> > connected, you can talk to others by typing " before what you want to >> > say. For example to say Hello, type "Hello >> > >> > I'm looking for help building Homer or ideas so if you think you can >> > help, give me a shout on there or e-mail me. See you guys on there! > >> where's telnet and how do you get to it. Can you please give me complete >> instructions on how to do this?? It sounds neat. Thanks a bunch. > >If you're using Windows, you can get a WWORLDS.ZIP, a MOO client program at > > ftp://jewel.ml.org/pub > >Unzip, goto setup and enter jewel.ml.org for the IP, 3443 for the port and >connect! > >EDAs are starting to show up on there. I'm hoping to build the Innerchange >(with some help) so I can give you guys rooms in there. :) > > >See ya, > >Felix >fng@jewel.ml.org > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 11:56:18 -0700 From: Joe Subject: Re: I want MARS Fett30@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-07-13 04:06:28 EDT, goat@voyager.net (Joe) writes: > > << > PS. Don't you think the martians might take slight offense to us mere > Earthlings selling their home? > > >> > > > The American Indians didn't seem to mind Gosh, man! I think you're mistaken! If that was some kind of sick joke, I hope you learn to communicate your ideas in a less demeaning way. I don't have a whole lot to say about your comment, just that I wish you luck. On the other hand, if you were just being sarcastic, cool! - --Peace-- Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:52:10 -0500 From: BeefJerky the Computer Dude Subject: Re: NJC: Re: Vinyl CD (DVD) Actually, DVD officially stands for absolutely nothing! The people who invented it decided they were gonna call it one of those names, but since 2 different companies were working on it, they couldn't agree so it's simply DVD, though everyone will call it by those 2 names... --BeefJerky At 05:43 PM 7/13/97 +0000, you wrote: > >Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:35:12 > > >> Subject: Re: Vinyl CD (DVD) > >> > I was wondering: what is a vinyl cd anyways, and what's so special about it? >> >> Actually, it's a DVD (Digital Vinyl Disc) not a "cd", though they are the >> same size and shape. You've probably seen the hype surrounding them. %) >> >> > >Ahem! That's Digital VIDEO Disc, or in the computer field Digital >VERSATILE Disc. Where did this screwy vinyl CD thing come from >anyway? > >The techno-geek angel, > > >Nathan >dogslife@bigfoot.com >"Being a man leaves me cold: that's how it is." > -Pablo Neruda > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:41:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: I want MARS On Sun, 13 Jul 1997 Fett30@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-13 04:06:28 EDT, goat@voyager.net (Joe) writes: > << > PS. Don't you think the martians might take slight offense to us mere > Earthlings selling their home? > >> > The American Indians didn't seem to mind This is akin to saying the holocost never happened in Europe under Nazi occupation. Everyone, this is a racially insensitive statement based completely in ignorance. Hurtful inflammatory statements like these don't belong on this list and I urge no one else post further responses to this list regarding this thread. Fett30 I hope you just didn't know, but please understand what you posted is just plain wrong and can be construed by many as downright offensive to put it mildly. Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:57:33 -0500 From: BeefJerky the Computer Dude Subject: Re: NJC:Free Issue of LAUNCH on-line I forgot to add in last post that for international, you cannot get a free issue, which is also written on the web page... --BeefJerky Yes, it is...if you had read the page you would have known that they will send you a bill, and by continuing to read you would see that you simply mark "CANCEL" on the bill and you can keep the CD and you are not forced into a subscription... --BeefJerky At 02:54 PM 7/13/97 -0700, you wrote: >Tim S wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You can get a free issue of LAUNCH CD/magazine by visitng the following web >> site and filling out the info. THought I would pass this on to my fellow EDA. > >People, don't do this, in doing this it auto maticly subscribs you to >Launch, soon they send you bills for issues and they cause big bullshit >that takes a while to end, plus it gives you bad credit because you >din't pay, trust me, it not free! > >Danke, >Casey > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:55:48 -0500 From: BeefJerky the Computer Dude Subject: Re: NJC:Free Issue of LAUNCH on-line Yes, it is...if you had read the page you would have known that they will send you a bill, and by continuing to read you would see that you simply mark "CANCEL" on the bill and you can keep the CD and you are not forced into a subscription... --BeefJerky At 02:54 PM 7/13/97 -0700, you wrote: >Tim S wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You can get a free issue of LAUNCH CD/magazine by visitng the following web >> site and filling out the info. THought I would pass this on to my fellow EDA. > >People, don't do this, in doing this it auto maticly subscribs you to >Launch, soon they send you bills for issues and they cause big bullshit >that takes a while to end, plus it gives you bad credit because you >din't pay, trust me, it not free! > >Danke, >Casey > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:30:20 -0700 From: janejetson@geocities.com Subject: [Fwd: NJC: Re: What do we stand for?] Message-ID: <33C9B8BB.1A34@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:27:23 -0700 From: janejetson@geocities.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Coolmen123@aol.com CC: Jewel@smoe.org Subject: NJC: Re: What do we stand for? References: <970713202026_-1761835566@emout09.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Coolmen123@aol.com wrote: > > I have a question for all the people on this mailing list and that is, it > seems to me we enjoy our group because we share common interests and we look > to each other for friendship and someone to talk to. We talk about how we > can better each other and how we can better ourselves and the group as a > whole. But my question is what are we doing for other people? We talk to > each other, we do activities together, but the activities seem to revolve > solely on one thing: our entertainment. I've only been on this list a few > weeks but I've noticed that most of the posts are either about all the fun > things that we do or about how we are such "angels", but in truth, let's > think here, what do we do that's so great? Is it just me, or is this becoming a thread? Anyway, I think as EDAs, we do TONS of great stuff for eachother, AND others. There's JPK, the tree planting...and I'm sure lots more that I can't think of right now, but Nathan already listed. But what sticks out so much in my mind, is how we're just THERE for whoever needs us. Last week, I came to the list with a huge problem. I had no where else to turn, and SO many people responded, people that I'd never even spoken to before. And I seriously doubt that they only helped for the entertainment value. I was just reminded of something that someone (Tom Harris?) re-posted about angels, it was a list memory from awhile back, but I think it's fitting now: ~*~*~*~*~*~ Your guardian angel helps you find a place when you feel there's no place to go. Keep a spare angel in your pocket. Angels carry high-beam lights to help you through the darkest hours. Whenever you feel lonely, a special angel drops in for tea. Angels know that love is the only four letter word. We are always "angels on call" for a friend. ~*~*~*~*~*~ IMHO, that quote up there is exactly what this list is about, and it is the true definition of the words "EveryDay Angel". And THAT'S what we do that's so GREAT. :) lots of love to everyone, jane ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ {\o/} /_\ "Sometimes it be that way..." -Jewel "Instinct is the voice of God. That's how He speaks to us." -Oprah Most men prefer looks to brains, because most men see better than they think. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #555 ***************************