From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #503 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, June 29 1997 Volume 02 : Number 503 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Lilith Fair Tickets [bennhoff ] Re: NJC: Here's some poetry, it's kinda lame ["Nathan" ] Re: yet more of these silly questions (my version) [*Sometime to Return* ] RE: Why I think fame is not all good. [bennhoff ] JC: Getting to know the EDA Foundation ["Adrian du Plessis" ] RE: Relations to Jewel [bennhoff ] Getting to know your EDA Foundation ["Adrian du Plessis" ] RE: Why I think fame is not all good. ["Nathan" ] RE:relations to jewel [SaraAnn200@aol.com] Re: JC: The EDA Foundation/Time magazine ["Adrian du Plessis" ] NJC:What I did today! [eda-westleyd@juno.com (Westley A Dent)] Dar Williams [Emilia Garvey ] Re: Time Magazine/The EDA Foundation ["Adrian du Plessis" ] Songs or music that makes me cry! [Jonders ] Songs that make me LAUGH!!! :-) [Jonders ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 18:55:02 -0600 From: bennhoff Subject: RE: Lilith Fair Tickets "Hey all u EDA's. Well My Birthday is on July 2nd. I am going to = Lilith Fair to see Jewel, in Mountanview at Shoreline. I was wondering if = anyone has or knows of where I can get some box seat tickets, anything not on = the lawn. Or Backstage passes, I know that's a hard one to pull off but I = am desperate, this will be my first concert ever, and Jewel is my Hero. I have to go, I would die if I met her, but it's worth it. This just reminds me of something that happened to me recently. I was = still unaware of Jewel on the internet so I didn't know if Jewel was = coming to Colorado or when she was. (Turns out she's not) :( Anyway my = so-called friend said he was just at Ticket Master and he had gotten me = a backstage pass. I was so excited because Jewel is my hero to. Then I = realized who I was dealing with. That helped lighten the blow of when = he told me he was just kidding. I'm not going to say I was devastated = but I was very disappointed. I haven't talked to this friend yet. Bob A disappointed EDA "The music is your special friend. Dance on fire as it intends." - -Jim Morrison "Spoon" - -The Tick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 20:40:00 +0000 From: "Nathan" Subject: Re: NJC: Here's some poetry, it's kinda lame > To: layaway@earthlink.net, jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: NJC: Here's some poetry, it's kinda lame > From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:22:07 EDT > Isn't it odd how we can write poems more easily when we're depressed or > extremely happy?!? ;) > I find it odder still that you would say that Mark. Apathy makes for crappy art. Extreme emotions are the best ones to capture in tangible media. Well, actually, they're not the BEST (no emotion is any more valid than another, blah, blah, blah) but they're certainly the easiest to express through art. Doncha think? Nathan dogslife@bigfoot.com Art is the most wonderful of masochistic pains. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:00:47 -0400 (EDT) From: SaraAnn200@aol.com Subject: Relations to Jewel This is my first serious post on here, so sorry if this is bad or anything. I think that the reason that we all love Jewel so much is her ability to write songs that we all can relate too and her wonderful melodies. Though she can sing, there is nothing that separates her voice from others. It is her lyrics that keep us coming back for more. She is not a amazing guitar player, for I have only been playing a year and I can play most of her songs(thought they don't sound as good) These are not insults or meant as slams to Jewel as an artist. She is fantastic and I love her music and all you you with all my soul. Sara Ann ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:16:51 -0700 From: christa edwards Subject: Re: reviews At 12:24 PM 6/28/97 -0600, you wrote: >I have read a lot of reviews that say Jewel is kinda unprofessional and she takes a lot of time in between songs to talk. The reviews give the impression that this is a bad thing. Personally I kind of like it shows me that she is as human as everyone else. Any comments? >Bob I think it's great when she talks. It adds charisma to the performance IMO. Those critics are too uptight. - -Christa:) - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Hey, I'm a firm believer in the ruling class. Especially since I rule. :) -Clerks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:58:03 -0500 (CDT) From: *Sometime to Return* Subject: Re: yet more of these silly questions (my version) > > >FAVORITE TOOTHPASTE: Fresh mint Colgate > > >FAVORITE ICE CREAM FLAVOR: Mint Chocolate Chip > > >FAVORITE DRINK: diet Coke all the way, baby > > >FAVORITE DRUG: Benadryl and any kind of narcotic painkiller > > >FAVORITE CITY: Dallas > > >FAVORITE CONDIMENT: Mayonaise > > >FAVORITE HAPPY MEAL: Cheesburger > > >FAVORITE ANIMAL TO KILL AND EAT: chicken > > >FAVORITE SOAP OPERA: (tie) Days of Our Lives & Another World > > >FAVORITE TRASHY TABLOID TV SHOW: Sally & Jerry > > >FAVORITE NATIONAL PARK: Fiesta Texas > > >FAVORITE FISH: My beta Floyd (R.I.P) > > >FAVORITE NATIONAL HOLIDAY: Christmas > > >FAVORITE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP: the Green Party > > >FAVORITE TALK SHOW HOST: Jerry Springer > > >FAVORITE NEWS COMMENTATOR: Dan Rather (he da man!!) > > >FAVORITE PHILOSOPHER: Plato > > >LEAST FAVE PHILOSOPHER: Heidegger and Aristotle and Kant > > >FAVORITE SPORTS TEAM: Texas Rangers > > >FAVORITE EVIL VILLAN: The hyenas from the Lion King > > >FAVORITE SUPERHERO: Batman (duh) > > >FAVORITE PERFUME: Champs Elysse > > >FAVORITE EATING UTENSIL: my fingers > > >FAVORITE KITCHEN APPLIANCE: blender > > >FAVORITE CHILDHOOD AILMENT: the swollen hand blues > > >FAVORITE PARKING VIOLATION: Fire zone > > >FAVORITE DANGEROUS LIASON: Beauty and the Beast > > >FAVORITE HAPPENSTANCE: getting to attend college in my favorite city > > >FAVORITE CASUAL COMMENT: Well fuck me then > > >FAVORITE PUNCTUATION MARK: ? > > >FAVORITE VERB TENSE: future > > >FAVORITE YEAR: 1992 > > >FAVORITE TIME OF DAY: any time between 7 p.m. - 8 a.m. > > >FAVORITE PLANET: Earth > > >FAVORITE GALAXY: Andromeda > > >FAVORITE WAVE: big 'un > > >FAVORITE CLOUD: gray rainy clouds > > >FAVORITE CHORD: F or Am > Love, Dancer *angel of peaceful anarchy* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:15:19 -0600 From: bennhoff Subject: RE: Why I think fame is not all good. "However, when an ARTIST has two songs played to death on radio and=20 their faces appear on countless magazine covers, it robs them of=20 their humanity. It turns them into icons. It's not that the person=20 changes, but the world's perception of them does. Icons don't have=20 much depth because people won't let them. Consequently, people form=20 very firm opinions on icons based on miniscule amounts of=20 information." I agree with you. This happens most of the time. The thing that = separates Jewel from that crowd of people is she fights against becoming = an icon no one can relate to. If you saw Hard Rock Live her opening = comments said exactly that. Bob "The music is your special friend. Dance on fire as it intends." - -Jim Morrison "Spoon" - -The Tick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 09:58:18 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: JC: Getting to know the EDA Foundation The more EDAs I hear from, the more I love you all!! I've got a better idea, though, than us each sending each other individual e-mails about the EDA Foundation. Let's build a thread in which we can all participate and one that will help us understand and define the EDAF. If all us puts in one or two ideas or comments upon the ideas that are being collected, we'll have hundreds, even thousands, of ideas on which to build. You can't build a house without a proper foundation and Larry the lawyer is making sure we have a sold legal framework. So now we have to figure out what the Foundation could and should do since it's going to exist. Hopefully by the time the ideas thread on this list gets overhwelmingly huge the EDAF mail list will be up and running and we can move this discussion on over to the new list. Sorry I always take so many words to explain things, but that's how I am. Anyway, I've started to list some of the things EDAs have told me they've been doing to help others as well as things EDAs believe should be done. This is helping to make it clear how some good things are better done by us on our own, and some kind things can be assisted by the EDA Foundation. Some helpful acts are a bit of both -- as you'll see just like me once you start organizing the ideas. Please add your ideas to the following lists and repost them for other EDAs to add their $0.02. Any comments or observations about the ideas showing up on the lists can be made in a separate post and if we decide that a kind act in one list should be in another list or vice-versa, or if we think something isn't right we can fix it all as we build. Try and use the latest version to add your points to, this will be easier for people on the loose mail list. Those like me on the Digest Form, well, we'll add our points when we get each new Digest, and then let's all keep looking for ways to keep the lists organized and harmonized. If anyone can think of a more organized way to keep the lists harmonized and as up to date as possible -- so we don't lose any great ideas -- please post your plan to the list. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to some things like lists -- but I'm trying! Well, so we can all see how the EDAF can grow, and end up with a useful list for whoever ends up managing that part of the Foundation, here's how the ideas seem to fall -- into A) Every Day Angel acts of kindness and B) EDAF-assisted kind acts Please, everyone, add into either group, all the wonderful ideas you posted before Jewel's birthday and before and since (I saw a great post just a few days ago about what it means to be an EDA -- unfortunately I have so much e-mail I've not been able to relocate it. Help!) This is our foundation, let's build on it: EDA ACTS OF KINDNESS - - lending someone a shoulder to cry on - - helping someone with their homework - - giving blood (this can also be part of an EDAF drive) - - volunteering time at a local hospital (e.g. helping out on trips with patients, organizing parties to brighten the days of those hospitalized) - - helping small creatures across the road (animals and small children too) - - helping the elderly, the disabled with transportation, buying groceries, getting through the day - - giving coffee/warm drinks to the homeless in cold weather, giving iced tea/juices to the homeless in hot weather - - helping someone who's fallen off their bike, or hurt in some other way - - cleaning up trash in the community - - volunteering time in a neighbourhood soup kitchen - - helping out on community rebuilding projects for the poor - - taking the time to listen to others - - giving your time to the SPCA or animal shelter - - working on a crisis line or at a shelter for battered women - - if you're musical, playing before shutins or those in special care wards EDA FOUNDATION ASSISTED ACTS OF KINDNESS - - organizing financial fund-raisers (like the James Paul Kalanick Trust) for victims of motor vehicles, of violence, of medical misfortune etc. - - sponsoring concerts to just make people happy (and, if the situation arises, to raise awareness of a particular issue) - - founding a scholarship to nurture musical talents (like Jewel needed to go to Interlochen) - - organizing a blood drive (also an individual EDA act, but on a bigger scale can involve arranging awareness, giving rides etc.) - - finding or building shelter for those left homeless by floods, earthquakes or other natural disasters - - building playgrounds in neighbourhoods without It also starts to become clear when we focus on it as a reality, that there are some ideas for the EDAF that may already be being done by other non-profit charities or societies. So, help me out, what sort of things can EDAs contribute. I guess something like the JPK Trust shows how it can be beneficial for different groups to cooperate on a common cause... The world can never have too many kind organizations. Ideas please! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 04:15:48 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Shachar Segal Subject: Re: Relations to Jewel On Sat, 28 Jun 1997 SaraAnn200@aol.com wrote: > I think that the reason that we all love Jewel so much is her ability to > write songs that we all can relate too and her wonderful melodies. Though she > can sing, there is nothing that separates her voice from others. Hmmm, "though she can sing there is nothing that separates her voice from others"... Have you actually ever listened to her, or are you guessing here? Shachar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:21:12 -0600 From: bennhoff Subject: RE: Relations to Jewel "I think that the reason that we all love Jewel so much is her ability = to write songs that we all can relate too and her wonderful melodies. = Though she can sing, there is nothing that separates her voice from others. It is = her lyrics that keep us coming back for more. She is not a amazing guitar = player, for I have only been playing a year and I can play most of her = songs(thought they don't sound as good)=20 These are not insults or meant as slams to Jewel as an artist. She is fantastic and I love her music and all you you with all my soul." I understand what you are saying. Her voice although beautiful and = guitar are not unique while her lyrics are what you really fall in love = with. Bob "The music is your special friend. Dance on fire as it intends." - -Jim Morrison "Spoon" - -The Tick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:12:50 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Getting to know your EDA Foundation Here's an update listed with the latest ideas added. More ideas please!: EDA ACTS OF KINDNESS - - lending someone a shoulder to cry on - - helping someone with their homework - - giving blood (this can also be part of an EDAF drive) - - volunteering time at a local hospital (e.g. helping out on trips with patients, organizing parties to brighten the days of those hospitalized) - - helping small creatures across the road (animals and small children too) - - helping the elderly, the disabled with transportation, buying groceries, getting through the day - - giving coffee/warm drinks to the homeless in cold weather, giving iced tea/juices to the homeless in hot weather - - helping someone who's fallen off their bike, or hurt in some other way - - cleaning up trash in the community - - volunteering time in a neighbourhood soup kitchen - - helping out on community rebuilding projects for the poor - - taking the time to listen to others - - giving your time to the SPCA or animal shelter - - working on a crisis line or at a shelter for battered women - - if you're musical, playing before shutins or those in special care wards - - perform spontaneous generosity (e.g. buy your loved ones' dinner, give your sister or brother or best friend a graduation present) - - make dinner or a gift for someone you love EDA FOUNDATION ASSISTED ACTS OF KINDNESS - - organizing financial fund-raisers (like the James Paul Kalanick Trust) for victims of motor vehicles, of violence, of medical misfortune etc. - - sponsoring concerts to just make people happy (and, if the situation arises, to raise awareness of a particular issue) - - founding a scholarship to nurture musical talents (like Jewel needed to go to Interlochen) - - organizing a blood drive (also an individual EDA act, but on a bigger scale can involve arranging awareness, giving rides etc.) - - finding or building shelter for those left homeless by floods, earthquakes or other natural disasters - - work with St. Jude's Hospital to ease suffering of children afflicted with diseases ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: JC: The EDA Foundation/Time magazine As before, I would definitely like to throw my support behind the idea of the EDAF. The point that has been made by Adrian and others should be emphasized is that the EDAF does not, repeat, does not, replace the good works and deeds of the EDAs, nor is it above or superior to the collective who call ourselves EDAs. The EDAF is an arm of the EDAs to perform on a more formal level the good ideas and wonderful projects we've each done our best to do. There are certain things that the EDAs, as a unorganized entity of good souls, cannot legally do on a large scale in this country. This includes formal fund raising, sponsoring official activities, and contacting artists and record companies on an official level to support causes. You need a legally incorporated entity to pull these things off. Subsequently, the EDAF is not and should not be construed as a "I'm more of an EDA than you are" organization. As an individual who was a director of a non-profit organization and went through a lot of the BS early on, I can definitely say that ANYONE who believes that being a part of the EDAF will somehow magically augment their ranking order as an EDA should not apply to work for the EDAF. That is NOT what the EDAF is about and nor should it ever be. The EDAF, like the EDAs, is about helping people, but does so through the legal bounds of United States corporate law. The EDAF is an arm of the EDAs, it is not above the EDAs, it is not about prestige or ego. It is about enabling and empowering EDAs to do more than was possible before by creating a legally established organization recognized by the government. Doing so will not be a dog and pony show. There may never be any kind of rewards. As I found out, the work is grueling, the anxiety endless, and conditions difficult. No miracles will happen over night once the EDAF is established. It will be probably years of the EDAF building enough of a name for itself before anyone takes notice. But it is through the hearts of EDAs that the people on this list have been able to do so many things to help as many people as possible. So it is in the spirit of what it means to be an Everyday Angel, and Jewel's belief in us and we in her, that the idea for the EDAF came to life. No one should feel obligated to volunteer to help if they don't have the time or feel it's not for them. This is not about having to be a part of something, but having the time, and willingness, and the resources to help. Not everyone will be able or want to, and that's ok. We are all EDAs regardless of the EDAF, and that's all there is to it. :) Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:42:33 -0600 From: bennhoff Subject: comments on reviews Last night I wrote a post about how the critics have been calling Jewel = unprofessional when she goes of talking during a performance. I also = said how I liked it when she did it. A load of EDA's have e-mailed me = to tell me their thoughts. They seem to all be the same. Everyone = likes it when she does it. Either for a glimpse on what she thinks to = make her feel more like a real person. Needless to say I was pleasantly = surprised that everyone felt the same way as I do. Bob "The music is your special friend. Dance on fire as it intends." - -Jim Morrison "Spoon" - -The Tick "Love reign o'er me." - -Pete Townshend ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:02:41 +0000 From: "Nathan" Subject: RE: Why I think fame is not all good. > From: bennhoff > To: "'jewel@smoe.org'" > Cc: "'bennhoff@bewellnet.com'" > Subject: RE: Why I think fame is not all good. > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:15:19 -0600 >> "However, when an ARTIST has two songs played to death on radio >> and their faces appear on countless magazine covers, it robs >> them of their humanity. It turns them into icons. It's not that >> the person changes, but the world's perception of them does. >> Icons don't have much depth because people won't let them. >> Consequently, people form very firm opinions on icons based on >> miniscule amounts of information." > > I agree with you. This happens most of the time. The thing that separates > Jewel from that crowd of people is she fights against becoming an > icon no one can relate to. If you saw Hard Rock Live her> > Bob > I have no problem relating to Jewel. If I couldn't see her as a person, she would't inspire me as she does. My point was, many people are being introduced to her "post-iconification". She can say anything she wants about not being an icon, but iconification is almost always done by others TO a person: record/concert reviews, overplayed videos/songs, etc. Thus she is a very modest, awkward, unlikely icon. However, to the EDAs Jewel is not an icon, to the casual pop music listener, she is. That's what I'm saying. Nathan dogslife@bigfoot.com "Being a man leaves me cold: that's how it is." -Pablo Neruda ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: SaraAnn200@aol.com Subject: RE:relations to jewel When I wrote tht post, you Shachar, presented the kind of people that I wad afraid of. I love Jewel and I have listened to her music, along with that of many others. The idaes that I ment to express were that jewels voice is not unique. It is very beautiful, but in many years, she will not be remembered for her voice. She will beremembered for her lyrics and emotions expressed when she plays, and for us, her EDA that are willing to make the distance. I am not sorry if you feel other wise, because these are my ideas, and I hate it when people try to forced thier ideas on people. I am not mad and I just wanted to back up my ideas some more. Thats it Sara (the angel sometimes unable to cope) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:18:28 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Re: JC: The EDA Foundation/Time magazine Thanks Albert for a most eloquent and welcome post! - ---------- > From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang > Subject: Re: JC: The EDA Foundation/Time magazine > Date: Saturday, June 28, 1997 6:32 PM > > As before, I would definitely like to throw my support behind the idea of > the EDAF. The point that has been made by Adrian and others should be > emphasized is that the EDAF does not, repeat, does not, replace the good > works and deeds of the EDAs, nor is it above or superior to the collective > who call ourselves EDAs. The EDAF is an arm of the EDAs to perform on a > more formal level the good ideas and wonderful projects we've each done > our best to do. There are certain things that the EDAs, as a unorganized > entity of good souls, cannot legally do on a large scale in this country. > This includes formal fund raising, sponsoring official activities, and > contacting artists and record companies on an official level to support > causes. You need a legally incorporated entity to pull these things off. > > Subsequently, the EDAF is not and should not be construed as a "I'm more > of an EDA than you are" organization. As an individual who was a director > of a non-profit organization and went through a lot of the BS early on, I > can definitely say that ANYONE who believes that being a part of the EDAF > will somehow magically augment their ranking order as an EDA should not > apply to work for the EDAF. That is NOT what the EDAF is about and nor > should it ever be. > > The EDAF, like the EDAs, is about helping people, but does so through the > legal bounds of United States corporate law. The EDAF is an arm of > the EDAs, it is not above the EDAs, it is not about prestige or ego. It > is about enabling and empowering EDAs to do more than was possible > before by creating a legally established organization recognized by the > government. Doing so will not be a dog and pony show. There may never > be any kind of rewards. As I found out, the work is grueling, the anxiety > endless, and conditions difficult. No miracles will happen over night > once the EDAF is established. It will be probably years of the EDAF > building enough of a name for itself before anyone takes notice. > > But it is through the hearts of EDAs that the people on this list have > been able to do so many things to help as many people as possible. So it > is in the spirit of what it means to be an Everyday Angel, and Jewel's > belief in us and we in her, that the idea for the EDAF came to life. > > No one should feel obligated to volunteer to help if they don't have the > time or feel it's not for them. This is not about having to be a part of > something, but having the time, and willingness, and the resources to > help. Not everyone will be able or want to, and that's ok. We are all > EDAs regardless of the EDAF, and that's all there is to it. :) > > Albert Wang > Dark Seraph > bahamude@user1.channel1.com > > Jewel Quotes and QTs > http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:41:08 EDT From: banana_cracker@juno.com (mike g fulcher) Subject: Re: Getting to know your EDA Foundation Also sent to Jewel List: This is probably one for the musicians but we could encourage those artists that we see live or through their fan clubs. Supporting victims of abuse who are musicians and in the music industry. Entertainment artists usually have little time alone and are isolated much the same way a lot of people who are abused. In other words give the artists time alone by design to be nice to themselves. i have seen the comment that you don't go near Dylan when he is wearing a hooded sweater. This would be cool I think if they had a universal "hands off" signal to keep fans media and even YES their mother away from them..hehhehe. Tina Turner showed up black and blue and with broken bones to do her concerts and evrybody knew her husband had done it. On Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:12:50 -0700 "Adrian du Plessis" writes: >Here's an update listed with the latest ideas added. More ideas >please!: > >EDA FOUNDATION ASSISTED ACTS OF KINDNESS > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:48:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Princess Subject: Re: Jewel concert on the internet next week!! :) Hi all--- I have a question about this, and since I figured I'm not the ONLY one on this list who's technologically....umm....challenged....I figured I'd ask the list: I went to the site--I LOVE the concert. is there a way to copy it onto my computer or something? Or will th concert be permanently available at this address? I hope there is SOME way of assuring continued access to this concert because it's GREAT! Okay--thank you for your time! =) EDA love--> Erin P.S. Excerpts of the two earlier posts by EDAs about this concert are below, in case you don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks again! > Jewel Jewel 6/27 San Diego, CA > > Encore performance of Jewel's San Diego homecoming show, originally > webcast in March, 1997. > > This past March Jewel turned in this extraordinary performance on the last > night of her most recent, North American headline tour. Road weary, Jewel > drew strength from her hometown fans for this magical set which is, quite > simply, not to be missed. > --snip > Atlantic Records has re-launched its' Digital Arena Web > site (http://www.digitalarena.com); among the performances > is a live Seven Mary Three concert tonight (6/26) at > 9:30pm EST and within the next week, concerts by JEWEL, > Brandy and Fountains of Wayne. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: NJC:A song that always make me cry On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Wednesday wrote: > that`s Tori Amos.. "Winter" was the very first song I heard of her, and it`s > still makes me *sniffle*.. "Crucify" though has a frightening effect on me, > probably because it makes me think of my own life.. I could have written I get the self same feelings from "Hey, Jupiter", "Pretty Good Year" and "Silent all These Years"... PGY really gets me, sometimes I swear it happened to me. The one happy song that makes me cry is Sarah McLachlan's "Ice Cream", I think its the most romantic song ever... (Oddly Sarah is on Much's Intimate and Interactive (repeat) right this minute.) James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What sets worlds in motion is the interplay of differences, their attractions and repulsions; life is plurality, death is uniformity. - - Octavio Paz ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:42:54 -0500 From: Steve Garrett Subject: Re: Good News about Foolish Games video - NO Batman! OH YES!!! This made me so happy to hear. Batman would have ruined the whole video. Can't wait to see it!!! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:41:35 -0500 From: Steve Garrett Subject: Re: Snazzy Jewel POY Lyric book for sale at Lilith Fair! Hey everyone, Just wanted to ask a big favor...I am unfortunate, as I can not attend a = lillith fair :-(, but can anyone pic up that Jewel POY Lyric book. I = would pay for the book and shipping and handling of course. Thanks, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 23:00:46 -0400 (EDT) From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: A few EDAF thoughts Hi, I want to throw this out there even though its obvious probably. On a recent post someone said: <> In the midst of all the other great ideas,I don't want the EDAFoundation to lose sight of this one. (just because it can't be another Jewelstock) Cindy Lee Berryhill & Elizabeth Hummel are about to prove something thats real important. If we (EDAs) can throw a successful tour where the musicians are coming to us & still make it financially viable for them between contributions & CD sales, then I think we're on to something! Anyone who was at Hot Dog Fest or EDA Cafe will tell you that the same "Jewelstock Euphoria" was present. (Something I soon hope to prove with the "Future Folklore" tapes) Think how great it would be if other musicians followed this example. I know Tara MacLean has at least considered it, too. Anyway, one thing many can do soon is to help make this 1st experiment with CLB & EH an incredible success at all stops. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:26:08 -0400 From: bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate) Subject: Re: Jewel Songs > When I hear FG it's like the whole >world around me stops and all i hear is jewels voice.it's amazing!! I feel the same way. It is like when a Jewel song comes on all I here is the music. All my problems are gone for a few moments. I IS amazing. - -Em "In the Bible only angels have wings and the rest must wait to be saved." -Jewel {\o/} /_\ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:09:08 -0400 From: bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate) Subject: Re: songs that make me cry I cry when I look at pictures from the past. All the memories come back all at once. - -Em "In the Bible only angels have wings and the rest must wait to be saved." -Jewel {\o/} /_\ On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:42:49, -0500 AMXD99A@prodigy.com (MISS ANAIS NIN) writes: >"I like this weepy thread. What else makes everyone cry? Whether >it's >Jewel or not?" > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:23:10 -0700 From: Joe Subject: Re: Adrian Joe wrote: > > > Actually coming from the view of a certified teacher, teaching to those > > students who require special services, the politically correct way of > > saying mentl retardation is intellectualy disabled. Of course that is if > > you want to talk about the ID classes. I will get back to you in private > > Joe but had to post this. Also remember, as Mandy said(the multifaceted > > Mandy that is) no matter if you have some form of a disability or not, we > > are all human beings and should be treated as such. > > > > Dan Perugini > > dperugin@medmail.mcg.edu > > "With malice toward none, > > with charity for all, > > with firmness in the right as God gives us to see that right, > > let us strive to finish the work we are in." > > Abraham Lincoln > > Gosh..I'm having a awful hard time understanding why people continue to write me telling > me that "no matter if you have some form of disability or not, we are all human beings > and should be treated as such". I wonder where people got the idea that I didn't in > fact believe that myself. Thats the very reason I work in the mental health field. > Please help me with this. It seems as though people are believing that I don't think > mentally retarded people are human. Whats the deal here? > > Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 23:24:01 EDT From: eda-westleyd@juno.com (Westley A Dent) Subject: NJC:What I did today! You guys will never believe what I did today! I played mud volleyball! It was great! We had probably thirty people playing, and at least ten watching! It was great! Just thought I'd share that with you! If you want more details, just ask! Westley Dent westleyd@juno.com eda-westleyd@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:21:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: Dar Williams For those of you who haven't heard of this wonderful folk singer from new england (I know its a shamless plug) you should really check her out! Esp. since she's got a new CD coming out...her 3rd...entitled "End Of Summer" ..and I've heard her first two as well. I think its really kewl that it is coming out on July 15..the day Foolish Games should start playing.. One more thing..check out her web page: www.panix.com/~tneff/dar I really reccomend checking her out. Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey A.K.A Gladys The Annoying Interrupting Cow _____________________________________________________________________ At the present time I can't find a sig that lacks signifigance to certain people who shall remain nameless so there. ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:14:10 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Re: Time Magazine/The EDA Foundation The ideas that EDAs are coming up for community projects and acts of kindness are great. The thorny "management" issues that Naveen and Thirza have raised highlight some of the questions that come with setting up an official organization. EDAs are an egalitarian community and it would be against the spirit of this wonderful group to alter that. And, of course, nothing can or will change the nature of this list. One of the issues will be, as others have pointed out, up to EDA to decide what suits them best. Some ingenuity and creativity will need to be employed in figuring this all out. It may mean there is a more distinct separation between the EDAF and the rest of our community than one would guess in conceptualizing things - -- although I don't understand how that could be or work. I guess it could come down to how one feels idealogically about organizational structures, and the processes employed in creating such structures, as to how separate the life of the EDAF will be from that of each individual on this list. In any event, I'm hoping we'll all hear soon from one of the organizers of the EDA Foundation so we can learn some more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 22:30:16 -0700 From: naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) Subject: Re: JC: The EDA Foundation/Time magazine Albert wrote in his superb post that it may be a long time before anyone ( as in, non-EDAs ) takes notice of the EDA Foundation. This leads me to believe that it will be beneficial for the EDAF to be recognized by the public. I posted about this topic earlier today, and got response from a few people asking if it mattered whether or not other people knew about the EDAF. Well, Albert has answered you perfectly. Like I said before, the EDAs will probably be mentioned in the Jewel issue of TIME. In addition to mentioning the EDAs as Jewel's fan club which performs many charitable acts, perhaps there could be a mention of the EDA Foundation itself. I don't know about the legal aspects of it, so maybe Larry can say if that would be okay legally at this point (Larry?). Anyways, I think this would be a big help in getting people to recognize the EDA Foundation as an official organization as soon as all the legal work is done. Perhaps if there was a sentence like "The EDAs are in the process of creating the EDA Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to mending ills and restoring hope in the community.", we could get the impetus that we need. Again, Alan(MrBB) is it possible to contact Lenedra and ask if she could suggest this to the author? Thanks for reading. =) Naveen On Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Albert Sze-Wei Wang writes: >No miracles will happen over night once the EDAF is established. >It will be probably years of the EDAF building enough of a name for >itself before anyone takes notice. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 21:50:10 -0600 From: bennhoff Subject: NJC: angelfood cake You know I have not had it for a while. It is so good and it just reminded me of my fellow EDAs. Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 23:51:30 -0400 From: Jonders Subject: Songs or music that makes me cry! I figure i might as well join in!! ;) Mozart's Requiem Mass, conducted by Herbert Von Karajan Brahms 3rd symphony 3rd movement Jewel's Amen Chopin's Prelude in C minor (i think it is Cm) Actually a few of Chopin's compositions do a number on me! Cassandra Wilson's cover of "Love is Blindness" Albinoni's adagio for strings and organ in Gm quite a few others...though i can't remember now... Eugene - -- =========================================================================== "For those of you who think there is no point, next time you breathe in fresh air, try not taking it for granted, and thank whatever it is that you believe in, even if it is nothing." - Jonders (an everydayangel recovering from broken wings) http://remus.rutgers.edu/~jonders ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 23:55:44 -0400 From: Jonders Subject: Songs that make me LAUGH!!! :-) Reversal of subject!! Songs that make me laugh, Joe Walsh...damn..i don't remember the title...the one where he has a mansion and mazarati and all this stuff, about him being famous and not changing?! The Eagles - Get Over It Sarah Vaughn's - I won't say I will (right title?) Ella Fitzgerald/Duke Ellington - A train should be some more, but i can't seem to think tonight!!! Take it easy all... oh there's one!! The Eagles - Take it Easy :) Eugene - -- =========================================================================== "For those of you who think there is no point, next time you breathe in fresh air, try not taking it for granted, and thank whatever it is that you believe in, even if it is nothing." - Jonders (an everydayangel recovering from broken wings) http://remus.rutgers.edu/~jonders ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #503 ***************************