From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #450 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, June 18 1997 Volume 02 : Number 450 Today's Subjects: ----------------- A poem I wrote- please read [CABBYBJS@aol.com] Re: My Bad Day ["John Thayer"] A sorta literary/poem magazine i'm starting [GRooVe MoNTHLY ] concerts, etc. ["David B. Rosengard" ] Hard rock live?? [bizmarquee@juno.com (Tony K Tran)] Re: Jewel/Dylan comparison put to rest ["John Thayer"] Re: sorry to take up room in your mailbox,but i just wanted to tell you guys... [smithr@] How do you get on this list? [FlaPanth21@aol.com] NJC: Coincidence? [gregdunn@indy.net] Bob's post about Atlantic and Jewel releases ["Adrian du Plessis" ] Re: Hard rock live?? [Casey Hansen ] Re: about poetry on the list in general [HCCZ70C@prodigy.com ( SARAH ME] Fwd: Happy Birthday Mike Connell !!! [Dalfinn@aol.com] Top 10 list.. [smithr@agcs.com] Re: Happy Birthday Mike Connell !!! [Chaplain Dan ] Re: Happy Birthday Mike Connell !!! [Andrew Vernon ] Re: Jewel, Bob Dylan and Mickey Mantle [Shachar Segal ] Poe, Meridith, VS ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] Re: Bob's post about Atlantic and Jewel releases [Kris Kane understandings taken thoughts Was it theur opinion? Or had, There been something more? Wrong steps I slipped as the words were ca r r i e d away the time later the words were found without a stamp sent back to me I pondered and found my opponent's words had been brought out without a thought One misleading word had been laid MIS> judged taken There had been something more. The clouds opened clearing the sky painting a picture of once again an understanding mind. Thank you for taking the time to read this- rewriting it made it seem so stupid, but I don't know- tell me what you think write to Cabby bjs@aol.com Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:59:31 -0500 From: "John Thayer" Subject: Re: My Bad Day John Thayer 06/18/97 10:59 AM To: jewel @ smoe.org cc: (bcc: John Thayer/MTC/TSS) From: eda-westleyd @ juno.com Date: 06/18/97 01:08:43 AM AST Subject: My Bad Day This is the first time that I've ever posted how my day went. Wish me luck. Right now, My Dad, my brother, and I are just getting over the aftermath of the final court date of my parent's divorce, which was probably about five weeks ago, but It's taken until four days ago for the judge to sign it off. The oddest thing about it, my Mom left us, and she is getting most of the stuff. Like, by next Friday, I think, my Dad has to come up with $5,000 dollars, as of which we are somewhat ok about coming up with. That amount is just the start of what totals $83,000 dollars over the next seven years. added to that, we are probably $40,000+ in debt. I don't have any problem in dealing with the financial situation. What really hurts me is that she doesn't realize what she does half of the time. She does half of what she does out of rage and jealousy. The other half of the things she does is either around my brother and I, or away from our family and friends. I just wish that she would get a grip on reality so that someone can get a fresh start to life. She just doesn't understand that she isn't part of our lives anymore, and it's because she is always doing outrageous things that we wouldn't let her back in either. For those of you that pray, please lift up my mother and pray that she will realize what she is doing to all of the people around her, and pray for me and my brother, and my father, that we can have peace within us, no matter what happens. Thank you for listening EDAngels. Westley Dent westleyd@juno.com eda-westleyd@juno.com Sometimes I am powerless. That is when I Let Go and Let GOD.. Good Orderly Directions. John T. We must not, in trying to think about how we can make a big difference, ignore the small daily differences we can make which, over time, add up to big differences that we often cannot forsee. Marian Wright Edelman.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:19:01 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: A sorta literary/poem magazine i'm starting I was wondering if any of you were interested in having your poems and short stories shared in a monthly/biweekly literary magazine i'm about to start.. I'll be taking contributions for the magazine itself along with ideas for a name! :) It's really easy and i know you'll love sharing your poetry with others. I have saved some especially moving ones from the list. (I loved Stephanie K.'s poem - with the halogen lamp) let me know ifyou're interested in helping - especially if you could set up an ASCII graphic for it, perhaps! thanks - -linda :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:36:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Grrly1@aol.com Subject: Re: Please take me off mailing list In a message dated 6/18/97 4:37:21 PM, you wrote: >FIYOG@aol.com wrote: > >>>Take me off please > > why? take you off? why? dont you like us? was it something I said? i'd really hate to know that youre leaving because of me... you dont want that guilt on my shoulders do you? just tell me what i did? why are you leaving me like this? You cant leave! you just cant! Feeling quite silly lately... i think someone put something in my Kool-aid this morning... or mabye its just the SUGAR! Thirza ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:36:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Chopped Liver Subject: Re: jewel V bob On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Carl Jamison wrote: > i don't care what happens. all i can say id why can't we just accept jewel > as the next jewel. why does she have to take the mantle from dylan. why does > the tourch have to be passed. just let jewel be jewel. i think that is > probably what she does best. its not right to expect her to live up to some > expectation that dylan and his ego set forth. its nice to compare them and > its easy to do as well but to force jewel into someone elses mmold is just > wrong!just a fewe of my opinions. Points well taken. But I don't think anyone here is saying that Jewel must or will or wants to take on Dylan's mantle. Bob Dylan's unique place in music history is safe and Jewel Kilcher will carve out her own unique place. If anybody is to have the honor of carrying on in place of Dylan, it won't be through concious effort. Striving for such a thing would most certainly make it impossible to achieve. An artist working hard and with honesty to express the truth as they see it may achieve it. And, it won't be until later in their career that it will be know what they have accomplished. At that point, possibly, it will be said of someone that they have carried on with the Dylan spirit. It will be a thing bestowed upon them by popular opinion, wether they like it or not. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:38:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "David B. Rosengard" Subject: concerts, etc. > Does anyone know if Bob has cancelled his concerts this summer. Fellow > EDA Lauren Bond & myself tossed around the idea of going to one of the > shows at Wolf Trap & were wondering if he cancelled any shows b/c of his > illness. > > Thanks > Chris - -------- word is that he will be definetly touring in Aug. (perhaps July...) .... the only showes I know of which were straight out canceled were the UK shows... ... I know this question has probably been asked quite a bit, but could some one give me a list of Jewel converts in the greater S. CA region? Thanks David ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:35:26 -0400 From: bizmarquee@juno.com (Tony K Tran) Subject: Hard rock live?? Hey everyone whats up?? Im overwhelmed by this great experience of this list!! You all are truly EDA!!! I got a quick question! What was the song Jewel did with her dad on the Hard Rock Live that included yodeling?? It was chime bells!! A fellow EDA, Tony T "we know enough about modern technology but not about dreams..." -Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:02:48 -0500 From: "John Thayer" Subject: Re: Jewel/Dylan comparison put to rest John Thayer 06/18/97 12:02 PM To: Jewel @ smoe.org cc: (bcc: John Thayer/MTC/TSS) From: zerog @ interaccess.com Date: 06/18/97 10:38:58 AM AST Subject: Re: Jewel/Dylan comparison put to rest What I was trying to say was that Jewel deserves her own space and time..and I do believe what you say that "Jewel *is* the most talented singer/songwriter to come down the pike in quite a while." I am not a Dylan fan.. I am a fan of Jewel. Lets talk about Jewel! I wonder what she is doing tonight? John T. ....one of the goals of life is to try and be in touch with one's most personal themes---the values, ideas, colors that are the touchstones of one's own individual life, its real texture and substance. Gloria Vanderbilt At 06:53 AM 6/18/97 -0500, John wrote: >I am just a listener. And I, too, believe Jewel to be unique. I have been >around a while and when I subscribed to this mail I was shocked to find >Jewel being compared to anyone..especially Dylan. Kris Kane responds: Hmmmmm...I guess you're right...it must be have been the phase of the moon that made me compare Jewel's talents to those of the greatest singer/songwriter of the past thirty years. And, to think that I even suggested that she has the potential to be a powerful social force into the 21st century. Sorry, I'm just crazy that way. Let's go back to discussing what kind of car she drives and how she rolls her toilet paper. No, wait a second....you almost convinced me. It wasn't the phase of the moon. I actually believe it. Jewel *is* the most talented singer/songwriter to come down the pike in quite a while. And yes, Christa, "Jewel appeals to people because of her fresh outlook on the world". And yes, Nathan, "she has a wonderful talent for writing songs (duh!), she has sufficient public acceptance for her to be recognized upon achieving this goal". And yes, David, "Dylan and Jewel are definitely multidimensional artists, and I think that there are certain parallels". And yes, Peter, "i plan on being inspired by Jewel for many years to come" And yes, Helen, "There is something about Jewel's positive attitude that works as an antedote to the negativity that prevails today. In a word, it's lovely". And yes, Igor, "Wouldn't it be better if we could go into a record store and try to decide which Jewel CD to buy rather than which artists CD we should buy". And thanks Mark for that great "Song for Bob Dylan" by Wally Pleasant and your clear and insightful point-by-point analysis. And thanks Adrian for the great Joan Baez quote about the "Dada King". And, thanks bob for what Helen described as "one of the most interesting and intelligent letters I've read in a while on this list". And yes, Adrian, "Jewel's power is in her philosophy, her way of being -- that sets her apart from many other talented musicians and makes her the 90s parallel to Dylan as a potential cultural force..." And yes, Chopped Liver, "She may not yet be the annointed one, but in my opinion she is a good candidate". Now that we've gotten all of that out of the way, let's go back to discussing toilet paper. Kris _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ "Everything is holy! everybody's holy! everywhere is holy! everyday is in eternity! Everyman's an angel! ... Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent kindness of the soul!" from "Footnote To Howl" by Allen Ginsberg _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:08:40 -0400 From: agalinanes@microjuris.com (Angel M. Galinanes) Subject: NJC: About poetry on the list in general Angels: Ok , I've been reading a lot of poems of this list. I can identify , and understand immedeatly what your saying in your poems... and this is not that good. It is not good cause if from the first browse reading I understand all the images , it must be because the imagery and other poetical resources have been abused. The main theme is frustration , and a feeling of betrayal . This is very valid , but these poems give the feel of reading a personal journal in which the author uses "darkness" and "angels" to add mysticism. This was my problem too with my poems , and my english professor told me that the poems were just a predictable stream of consciousness of feelings with a series of poetical cliches. I stopped writting about my feelings , and looked for a theme that could be a attributed some emotions. The result of this has been a series of confused, weird ass poems that make absolutely no sense ... but because they are weird they make you feel weird , and at least I've evoked thought or emotion. This is not a flame or bashing of your poems for if you are fully content with your writting no amount of criticism can ever influence you or get you down . If you feel that my analisis of the poems in general has been innacurate , and you feel hurt by my stupid ass post , you have my permission to flame me on the list. until then your auto cheap archangel : Rafa - -A penny for a thought A dollar for your soul I'd be willing to pay Would you be bought off- ???a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Heather R Keenan Subject: rare angels?? does anyone know anything about "rare angels" and how i would be able to obtain a copy (is this possiable??) xoxo Heather xoxo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "Is there still time? If we wake and discover in life a precious love, will that waking become more heavenly?" Natalie Merchant "In silence you hear who you are becoming. You create yourself" Jewel Kilcher ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:10:12 -0700 From: smithr@agcs.com Subject: Re: sorry to take up room in your mailbox,but i just wanted to tell you guys... I think that this list is great...this is my 3rd day on the list, and normally, when I leave work, and come back in the morning to see 80 new messages, I'd be worried, but I enjoy reading each and every entry sent here. JULY 10....Anyone else in AZ going to it? Lilith Fair! :) On Jun 18, 11:46am, Faery85364@aol.com wrote: > Subject: sorry to take up room in your mailbox,but i just wanted to tell y > Dear EDAs, > I'm very sorry to take up room in your mailbow, because I know that it's > getting crowded in there. I just wanted to say that I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!! I > don't know what I'd do without this list!If it weren't for you guys I'd > still think that I'm really strange and that I read way to much into songs > (LOL).So, thankyou,for everything,especially for just being there!!! > >-- End of excerpt from Faery85364@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:12:37 -0400 (EDT) From: FlaPanth21@aol.com Subject: How do you get on this list? How exactly does one get on this list? I forgot! Some Majordomo thing, or something! Thanks! Seb. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: gregdunn@indy.net Subject: NJC: Coincidence? Thanks to all for the birthday wishes! Me, Mike Connell, Paul McCartney, June 18. Coincidence? :-) - -- | Greg Dunn | And all you touch and all you see | | GregDunn@aol.com | Is all your life will ever be. | | gregdunn@indy.net | Pink Floyd | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | | ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 01:20:27 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Bob's post about Atlantic and Jewel releases Hear, hear, Bob. I went looking for Bob's post on how Atlantic is handling Jewel's record releases and can't find it right now -- but it was a great post. Atlantic was very supportive of Jewel when she was an unknown and that's definitely to their credit (of course Jewel playing endlessly made it all happen, too). But how can anyone justify the stalling of releasing an already recorded work so that singles from the first album will sell the maximum number of units possible?!? EDAs are fortunate that they have Angelfood (Jewel's Basement Tapes?) to fill in the huge spaces in the commercial production schedule. I can't see that artificially slowing down an artist's production schedule can do anyone good in the end. I wish Jewel were free to release a record any day she chooses. The world would benefit (and jingle more cash into Atlantic's tills) if Jewel's published music more closely paralled her artistic development. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 01:05:44 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Happy Birthday Mike Connell!! And I'd like to 1000th the birthday wish to Mike! May your day be the best! Cheers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:34:38 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: Hard rock live?? Tony K Tran wrote: > > Hey everyone whats up?? Im overwhelmed by this great experience of this > list!! You all are truly EDA!!! I got a quick question! What was the song > Jewel did with her dad on the Hard Rock Live that included yodeling?? It > was chime bells!! It wern't no "Chime Bells" it was called "Yo" Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:50:34, -0500 From: HCCZ70C@prodigy.com ( SARAH MERRITT) Subject: Re: about poetry on the list in general I just wanted to say that I agree with Rafa. One person posted a pome and it seems that everyone else decided to do the same. It is really interesting to read them, but I agree think that there needs to be some new material. There can only be so many poems about the same topics before people begin to NOT read the poems, or think of them as the same. I think that those of you who posted poems are brave, because I don't know if I could ever post mine, and also talented in writing. I think that you should try to write about something other than love for awhile. Like Rafa said, just write things and even if they come out weird, well, that's something new and interesting. Just my thoughts... sarah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:54:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Dalfinn@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Happy Birthday Mike Connell !!! I agree with this 100%!!!! Thanks Mike for everything you do for us! It has been a pleasure to chat w/ you those few times. You are so helpful & nice everytime! Have a wonderful b-day maybe it be as wonderful as you are! :) Carrie - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: nestle@ptd.net (Crunch) Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org To: jewel@smoe.org (EveryDay Angels) Date: 97-06-18 13:02:28 EDT =) Happy Birthday Mike !!! =) I just want to take this opportunity to thank you for everything that you've done for the EDAs. You have relentlessly worked for and with EDAs to help this list evolve into what it is today. You are a part of EDA history, a piece that without, we would be less. =) Mike, little do most of know how much of the EveryDay Angels is your time and energy. And we may never know. But, I do know that it is you, working for us, for me. Even so, you have the moments to offer me your friend- ship. I have enjoyed our not-often-enough late night chats, and look forward to many more. =) Thank you, Mike !! Please, have a fabulous, love-filled, angelic day !!! You rock!! =) Crunch! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:09:41 -0700 From: smithr@agcs.com Subject: Top 10 list.. I thought this was kinda interesting....:) The Top Ten (for 1st Part of April 1997) 1.Lovefool - The Cardigans 2.You were meant for me - Jewel 3.All By Myself - Celine Dion 4.Santeria - Sublime 5.Wannabe - spice Girls 6.Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? - Paula Cole 7.Don't Speak - No Doubt 8.Hard To Say I'm Sorry - Az Yet Featuring Peter Cetera 9.I Want You - Savage Garden 10.Barely Breathing - Duncan Sheik Ten Years Ago..... April 1987 1.Nothing's Gonna stop Us now - Starship 2.Lean on me - Club Nouveau 3.Don't Dream It's Over - Crowded House 4.Midnight Blue - Lou Gramm 5.Tonight,Tonight,Tonight - Genesis 6.Sign o' The times - Prince 7.Fascinated - Company b 8.Brass Monkey - Beastie Boys 9.Don't Give Up - Peter Gabriel/Kate Bush 10.La isla Bonita - Madonna Fifteen Years Ago..... April 1982 April 1982 15 years ago 1.I love Rock n'Roll - Joan Jett and The Blackhearts 2.Pac Man Fever - Buckner And Garcia 3.Open Arms - Journey 4.Key Largo - Bertie Higgins 5.Make A Move On Me - Olivia Newton John 6.(oh) Pretty Woman - Van HAlen 7.Stars On 45 III(Tribute To Stevie Wonder) - Stars On 8.Do You Believe In love - Huey Lewis And The News 9.That Girl - Stevie Wonder 10.Freeze Frame - J. Geils BAnd Twenty Years Ago..... April 1977 1.Dancing Queen - Abba 2.Don't Give Up On Us - DAvid Soul 3.Southern Nights - Glen Campbell 4.The THings We Do For LOve - 10cc 5.Hotel CAlifornia - Eagles 6.Rich Girl - Hall And Oates 7.Disco Lucy (i Love Lucy) - Wilton Place Street Band 8.So Into You - Atlanta Rhythm Section 9.Carry on Wayward Son - Kansas 10.Don't Leave Me This way - Themla Houston Thirty Years Ago..... April 1967 1.Happy Together - Turtles 2.A little Bit You,A little Bit Me - Monkees 3.Dedicated To The one I love - Mama's And The Papa's 4.Penny Lane - Beatles 5.Jimmy Mack - Martha And The VAndellas 6.The 59th Street Bridge Song - Harpers Bizarre 7.Western Union - Five Americans 8.Somethin' Stupid - Frank And Nancy Sinatra 9.I think We're alone Now - Tommy James And The Shondells 10.I've Been Lonely Too Long - The Young Rascals ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:20:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Chaplain Dan Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mike Connell !!! On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Kris Kane wrote: > At 10:27 AM 6/18/97 -0400, you wrote: > >In a message dated 97-06-18 09:44:23 EDT, you write: > > > ><< =) Happy Birthday Mike !!! > > > > =) I just want to take this opportunity to > > thank you for everything that you've done > > for the EDAs. >> > > > > > >I'd like to Second that. Mike, Happy Birthday! > >love you madly! > >Jen :) > > I'd like to third that. Happy Birthday, Mike!!! > Kris Kane > And I'll do my best to quadruple that. happy Birthday Mike for all that you have brought to this list. Dan Perugini dperugin@medmail.mcg.edu "One man, one goal, one mission, one heart, one goal, just one solution, one flash of light, yeah, one god, one vision" Queen "One Vision" "Get up, get back on your feet You're the one they can't beat and you know it" Styx "Fooling Yourself" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:38:01 +0100 From: kareng@ici.net (karen gannon) Subject: SJC: Female singers/grrl bands I don't want to be the teen male idiot, but I really don't understand these two things: 1) Where did this whole "grrl" thing come from? (I have a lot of legitimately feminist friends, so what I get from a lot of others is a"I spell it grrl,aren't I breaking ground" attitude,and it annoys me) 2)Why is it that when people list the artists that "move" them,they almost exclusively mention solo female artists? Not that I don't love Tori, Ani and others,but I don't listen to JUST female artist/girl bands. I know sex shouldn't be a genre, but it has become one. So we get a lot of crap that will sell because people see a girl's name. For me, this list starts and ends with Alanis. I don't like to see Jewel,Tori, and Ani in this category, esp. since they belong in four different categories. The same thing happened to hardore , alternative, jam bands and rhythm and blues (TLC and the other crap today are not R&B, they're rap or pop. James Brown was R&B.) I love discussing this junk, so feel free to rant to me or agree. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:37:49 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: NJC: Well...I graduated and I feel like crap Well, I did it, I feel like crap too, it sucks. I sat in a crowded multipurpose room for 2 and a half hours no leg room once oh ever and these guys behind me kept poking me with needles. It was filled with boring speeches by teachers, and stuff like that, and awards, that I did not receive. When I was done all I wanted to do was go home, so I got home slipped out of my dress and into my jeans and shirt. Then I come down stairs and my mom starts yelling at me, and I said I didn't want to go to a big restaurant because I get claustrophobic and so now, they are gone, they went to my graduation lunch because I didn't wanna wear this dress and shoes that give me blisters. Oh well, then I almost started crying like a baby because they started yelling at me about "We wanna do something nice for you and you just smack it away" I'm really not a bad person, really but just because I don't wanna go to a restaurant after sitting in a crowded multipurpose room for 2 and a half hours....does that make me so bad? Love You Lots, Lora "The Idiot Angel" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 15:34:26 -0400 From: katiejk@juno.com (Katie E McCurry) Subject: NJC: Laura Love. (she Yodels!) Hey guys. I was just wondering if any of you have heard of Laura Love. I heard her & Her band on E-town last week & I think she's Awesome. her latest album is titled Octaroon and is on the Mercury Records Label. At my local store I have found her under world music as well as Folk as well as Celtic. Here is what is on the back of her compilation : "Seattle's Laura Love combines Celtic & African music influences with American blues, soul & Jazz to create a unique and exhilarating sound that she calls " Afro-Celt". She is one of the great musical discoveries of 1995" "One of the top 10 unsigned bands in america" "L.Love stole the show at the first New York Singer-Songwriter Festival, Dancing to provide her own cross rythms and singing in a celtic derived style" She has also opened up for Ani Difranco if that tells you anything. Definitely check her out as soon as you can. especially if you like celtic music & funky Bass lines. Let me know what you think!! Happy shopping!! Love, katie ><}}}"> here's some pages: www.rahul.net/hrmusic/artists/llvart.html and www.mercuryrecords.com/mercury/artists/laura/laura_homepage.html and she yodels too!! :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:48:58 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Shachar Segal Subject: Re: NJC: Poem On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Derrick Chhay wrote: > Hi guys...I wrote a poem about 15 minutes ago. It's about online > relationships and I wrote it for my girlfriend in Washington. > > Love Hurts > by Derrick Chhay (You get the honor of being the first poster on this list whose message gets a reply from me ;) So beautiful, so sad and so true.Let's see some more poems from you.I'm gonna send a copy of it to my net girl, too.Your poem is the proof that there is a little Jewel in every one of us. Go forth and succeed! I hug you stranger who has some of me in him and whom I have some of him in me... Shachar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:46:38 -0500 From: Andrew Vernon Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Mike Connell !!! Crunch wrote: [Words of praise to The Mikeness that is our spiritual leader] Tell ya what Mike, I'll Happy Birthday you if you'll Happy Birthday me in return. :-) - -- Reverend Angus Who also shares his birthday with some guy from the Beatles... avernon@scott.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:12:24 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Shachar Segal Subject: Re: Jewel, Bob Dylan and Mickey Mantle On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Adrian du Plessis wrote: > Ooops -- I made a typo in my last post (not being used to writing less > that 10,000 words at a time...) And I know what I said was understood > anyway, but for the Jewel record I meant to say "in this age of inbred > cultural negativity and unquestioning cynicism it's radical to be a > positive idealist" > > (instead I said "idealistic" -- which is a fine word, too, not just the > one I intended) Is a "positive idealist" someone who is the opposite of a "negative idealist"? IOW, if it ain't broke, don't fix it ;). Shachar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:17:24 +0300 (GMT+0300) From: Shachar Segal Subject: Re: NJC: Poem(long post) On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 trujillo@netwrx.net wrote: > Anyways, It was inspired by a phone call I got from my friend from > Utha. She used to be one of my best friends, and I always thought that > somehow I'd end up with her. She did move away about 10 months ago, but she > was supposed to come over for the summer. Last Sunday when she called, she > told me that she had gotten pregnant and that she would not come this > summer. I really don't know what I should do. Maybe I shouldn't call her for > a while. Were you too late in telling her those simple three words? Is it too late to do so now? There is only one way to find out.Tell her *now*. Shachar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: Poe, Meridith, VS To the person deciding between Poe, Veruca Salt, and Meridith Brooks: I'd go with Poe. Each of the artists are solid, but Poe's cd has been out the longest and is probably the best (I haven't heard all of Brooks' "Blurring the Edges", however, but "Bitch" is probably the most unoriginal song on radio right now. It's not bad, just derivitive). Veruca Salt's second release, "Eight Arms to Hold You", is a triumph, better than their first album, if you ask me. However, Poe's album "Hello" is easily the most inventive, lyrically sound of the three. Such classic songs as the title track, "That Day", "Fly Away", "Driveby a Go-Go", "Angry Johnny", and others are some of the finest modern rock released lately. - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "Yeah I don't sleep, I only dream A caffeine hole burning through my spleen" -- Brenda Kahn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:51:56 -0400 From: Kris Kane Subject: Re: Bob's post about Atlantic and Jewel releases At 01:20 AM 6/18/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hear, hear, Bob. I went looking for Bob's post on how Atlantic is handling >Jewel's record releases and can't find it right now -- but it was a great >post. Atlantic was very supportive of Jewel when she was an unknown and >that's definitely to their credit (of course Jewel playing endlessly made >it all happen, too). But how can anyone justify the stalling of releasing >an already recorded work so that singles from the first album will sell the >maximum number of units possible?!? EDAs are fortunate that they have >Angelfood (Jewel's Basement Tapes?) to fill in the huge spaces in the >commercial production schedule. I can't see that artificially slowing down >an artist's production schedule can do anyone good in the end. I wish >Jewel were free to release a record any day she chooses. The world would >benefit (and jingle more cash into Atlantic's tills) if Jewel's published >music more closely paralled her artistic development. I totally agree with Bob and Adrian. Completely irrespective of the issue of artistic creativity, I think that Atlantic is being penny wise and pound foolish to slow down the release of Jewel's already recorded second album. Some suits in LA must suffer from the delusion that it's in their financial interest to squeeze every last hit and sale out of PoY. What they don't realize is that they've already hit pay dirt many times over with that live recording in a coffeehouse, and that not only is the material on the second album greatly superior, but it will appeal to a much larger audience. It reminds me of an old proverb about hands that are grabbing aren't open to receive. In the end, Atlantic's greediness will not only hurt Jewel but it will hurt themselves. They will probably never understand this because they are caught up in their narrow minded corporate mentality. Whether Jewel knows what's happening will remain to be seen. Other artists have had to fight this same battle. Jewel's not the first to have her artistic creativity stiffled by greedy money grubbing music industry execs. Prince went through the hassle of changing his name and a lengthy legal battle to get out from under the restrictions that his label placed on his ability to release his prolific creative output. Utimately, I have faith in the artist and the fans, not some suits in plush highrise offices in LA, driving around in limos and keeping songs the world wants to hear locked up in a vault. I say, release the album now and keep 'em coming!!! Kris Kane PS That's exactly why Ani DiFranco started her own label, Righteous Babe Records http://www.columbia.edu/~marg/ani/ ...to retain artistic control and integrity! Hasn't seemed to hurt her...Dylan picked her to tour with him. ;-) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ "Everything is holy! everybody's holy! everywhere is holy! everyday is in eternity! Everyman's an angel! ... Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent kindness of the soul!" from "Footnote To Howl" by Allen Ginsberg _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:52:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: Everybody's doing it so why shouldn't I? Poem or 2..:) Ok. I really have no words here, write me if you want. I thought I was perceptive to realize this in you. To realize how far from the ground you were. And how unmetaphorical and blank. And then again it seems that it has only hurt me more. And like the doctors shots it makes the fleshy tissue withstand more. And feel irregular. __________________ She felt it. Smelled it. Smelled fear. She knew you felt exactly like this. Yeah, I guess. She knows you fear her. She knows she can ruin your day with guilt. Spilling over like an over flowing hose, Drowning all the flowers and all the gried that she denied. I denied. Bitch. You don't know how to call me bleed the word out like a sore oozing. If you said what you thought I might know. I might be able to convince myself I was lying and.. only bringing myself down. Only bringing my high hopes higher. And down again. Much farther. So far you can't see anymore. And when you stare at the sun you've got to turn away. It's just too much bright. Like you. You. _______________ Testing Anansi's house was smashed by what I thought. Coulda been you and your roach killer. ANd scenery decides for itself if it really wants to capture my heart. I'll go now. decide for yourself. If you really want to hurt what can't help it. Ok..i'll send you another one tommorow. Everybody sign up for lindas MAG!! and one more thing for all you arguing people. IMO.. Poetry is. thats all there is to say IMHO. Ok. thanks for listening.Bya. Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey _____________________________________________________________________ "You were the only one, you were the censor, you'll never people me, I'm not defenseless." -Bush "Insect Kin" "Sorry I was a point you were destined to miss...sorry that my heart breaking ruined your day" -Jewel "Sometimes It Be That Way ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:57:35 -0700 From: naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) Subject: SJC: My Jewel Dream =) Last night, I had this really cool Jewel/EDA dream...for some reason, Jewel came to my house on the way to another show. Farr, Rachel, and Gianny were also at my house, and all of us were sitting around singing Jewel songs and Bob Dylan songs. Well anyway, Jewel walks in and we asked if she'd sing with us for a little while. We were all in this really big room with lots of windows and it was raining outside, and Jewel started singing If This Is What Love Is ( btw, does anyone have tabs to that? ). Then all of us got out our guitars and joined in, and we started singing Sometimes It Be That Way. We started talking about our favorite Dylan songs, and started on Subterranean Homesick Blues and screwed up all the lyrics. Then we sang Innocence Maintained and then Jewel said it was time for her to leave for a show in San Francisco, but before she packed her stuff up, we all hear this voice yelling "1000 Miles, 1000 Miles, 1000 Miles" so Jewel stayed for 5 more minutes and played 1000 Miles Away. Then, she went out to her car, a black Jeep Cherokee, after signing our guitars and tour books, and left. So, anyways, Farr, Rachel, Gianny, and I spent an afternoon singing with Jewel. =) Naveen - -------------------------------------------------- The first one now will later be last, For the times, they are a-changin' . ~ Bob Dylan - -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 17:10:14 -0400 From: Jonders Subject: Re: about poetry on the list in general Well here you go Sarah, a poem not about love... Sun and the Moon Part I The Sun and the Moon On ecliptic tides found Solemnly and celestially bound To the timeless and universal lagoon Can they withstand future's monsoons Part II The Sun and the Moon Have come to rest and come to set At God's dim and wonderless eyes And He came to know what omniscience would not let What Beauty He had missed while His mind fed Him lies At future's end, shine and beam prevailed in His quiescent lagoon. By: Jonders and one more.... First Funeral My eyes hidden behind tinted glass Safe No one sees them flinch suddenly Disturbed At the thunder of the red earth hitting the pine Cold A moan heard from the abysmal distance Close A lifeless spring draft passes through my soul Paralyzed Approaching mourner=92s embrace Useless Tear stained faces immobilized in a trance Death. By: Jonders if this one wasn't grim enough, let me know, i've got one more that might beat it! ;) Talk to you all later...take it easy, and write whatever, just write, be honest with yourselves and others, and write it down. Honesty is such a lonely word! ;) - --=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D "For those of you who think there is no point,=20 next time you breathe in fresh air, try not taking=20 it for granted, and thank whatever it is that you =20 believe in, even if it is nothing."=20 - Jonders (an everydayangel recovering from broken wings) http://remus.rutgers.edu/~jonders ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #450 ***************************