From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #419 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, June 8 1997 Volume 02 : Number 419 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel [Rusty Carter ] Re: jewel-digest V2 #418 [kareng@ici.net (karen gannon)] Re: jewel-digest V2 #418 [kareng@ici.net (karen gannon)] NJC: Rugburns . . . [HeyJupitar@aol.com] Re: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel [FabCAGal@aol.com] Re: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel [Candace Lutian ] New Poll at The Jewel Shrine ["Andrew Watson" ] Jewel Message to the List : 5/23/97 [Crunch ] Lenedra Message to the List : 3/27/97 [Crunch ] NJC: Opinions ["Lucas Holt" ] Jewel Message to the List : 4/25/97 [Crunch ] List Memories: 6/8/96 [Crunch ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:00:45 -0700 From: Rusty Carter Subject: RE: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel I hope I am not off base here, but while I am not a judge, or owner of = this listserve, I feel I can express my own opinions, as well everyone = else can. I believe that this list is a great idea; A way to convey = information, and opinions about Jewel, and to develop friendships with = people with similar interests. While I do believe that everyone is = entitled to their own opinion, I also feel that there needs to be some = respect for the feelings of others, and understanding that sometimes = people cry for help when they need a friend to talk to, and this is an = appropriate place for it. If it is not, or if something inappropriate = is discussed, I feel that a simple statement that the topic is = inappropriate for discussion here is all that should be said. There are = many angry people in the world, and to insult someone on the basis of = ignorance, or personal frustration, only perpetuates hate and anger. I = have been listening here for a long time, and I feel that sometimes = people hide behind their computer, and say some very agressive things = towards people that they probably would not say in person, because they = know deep down that it is wrong. It would be a travesty for this = listserve to turn into a place where people are afraid to talk because = they will be "flamed". This group is special, a group with great = diversity and understanding; A place where people can speak about love, = life, and beauty, which is very different from other groups that are = rittled with flames, insults, and degrading. =20 I hope that everyone feels that this group is different, and treats it, = and the people in it as such. Live the life of an angel, and let only = angelic words pass from your lips. I know this is impossible all the = time, but keep it in mind, and always be willing to see when you have = made a mistake, and look at other peoples perspectives before reacting = to them. The world is a much better place with everyone here, and the = more that act peace, teach it to others. Rusty :---------- :From: rickbond[SMTP:rickbond@concentric.net] :Sent: Saturday, June 07, 1997 5:16 PM :To: FabCAGal@aol.com :Cc: Jewel@smoe.org :Subject: Re: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel : :FabCAGal@aol.com wrote: : :> You know guys, I was gonna send this email to Wendy privately, but I :> think :> this is definitely an issue to be dealt with publicly. Wendy :> apparantly had :> some heartache to share with the list regarding her grandfather being :> ill. :> Now, it is obvious by the reactive post that I am responding to, = that :> :> Wendy :> recieved a lot of negative energy, and not enough support. I realize :> that :> many of you feel that the only discussion on this list should be :> strictly :> Jewel related, however, as it has been stated MANY times before, keep :> in mind :> that there is a person, with real feelings, behind that screen you = are :> :> reading. Again, I bring up the notion that some people fail to :> remember what :> being an "everyday angel" is all about. So, to anyone that flamed at :> Wendy, :> I ask you to do some soul searching, and some self-analysis as to why :> you :> felt it necessary to hound her. I also plead with everyone to have :> some :> compassion for your fellow angel, even when they post things that :> aren't :> Jewel related. Thank you. :> Mandy "the Surfer/Skater/Bartender/Chief Justice" : : You go girl. Damn..hate it when I say that. Anyway...I was going to :post directly to Wendy and apologize for the attitudes of some of the :members myself, but since someone else spoke up publicly I'm not going :to post, but just show the support to Mandy's message. I totally agree :with her and think maybe some people reply without thinking. Well..I = do :that sometimes and it's just not cool. So chill out and relax shall = we? : :Take Care :Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:45:55 +0100 From: kareng@ici.net (karen gannon) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #418 >I'm sorry if i bothered anyone by writing about how my grandfather was sick >with cancer. >im sorry if i bothered anyone about my life. >i thought you were my friends. >i'll just shut up now. >wendy I didn't see your post, I'm on digest and I scroll down quick. Sorry. Is he okay? My grandmother died of cancer almost a year ago. It was worse when she was in the hospital. She was so independent before, and it really tore her apart to be hooked up to machines, or to have to schedule her life around treatments. My family spent days trying to get her to take pain-killers, but I don't think they were able to. In a way, it was like the last line she drew in the sand. Oh, sorry for blabbing on. I, too, will shut up now. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:47:07 +0100 From: kareng@ici.net (karen gannon) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #418 >I'm sorry if i bothered anyone by writing about how my grandfather was sick >with cancer. >im sorry if i bothered anyone about my life. >i thought you were my friends. >i'll just shut up now. >wendy I didn't see your post, I'm on digest and I scroll down quick. Sorry. Is he okay? My grandmother died of cancer almost a year ago. It was worse when she was in the hospital. She was so independent before, and it really tore her apart to be hooked up to machines, or to have to schedule her life around treatments. My family spent days trying to get her to take pain-killers, but I don't think they were able to. In a way, it was like the last line she drew in the sand. Oh, sorry for blabbing on. I, too, will shut up now. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 21:46:57 -0400 (EDT) From: HeyJupitar@aol.com Subject: NJC: Rugburns . . . I'm looking for anyone that took photos at a Rugburns concert!! If you have photos from one of their shows e-mail me privately. Thanxs!! A grateful 'burns and jewel fan, megan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 22:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: FabCAGal@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel In a message dated 97-06-07 21:36:48 EDT, bd2@primenet.com (Rusty Carter) writes: << The world is a much better place with everyone here, and the more that act peace, teach it to others. Rusty >> AMEN Rusty! Mandy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 22:51:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Candace Lutian Subject: Re: NJC:i guess i'm not an angel I apparently missed Wendy's post about her grandfather. i decided to respond to the entire list because perhaps i can that way reach and possibly help more people. i wanted to recommend a book called Final Gifts. it was written by a number of hospice nurses. i know it is available at Borders bookstores, and probably Barnes and Nobles as well. it was written to help the family members of those who are terminally ill. its helped a number of people i know. ~Candace (a.k.a. flicka) ***************************************************************************** Without love, and with only an overwhelming desire to procreate and the only guiding force being lust, the world would be even more overpopulated than it is now. It is the people in love who are saving the world. ***************************************************************************** Q: What is the meaning of life? A: To live, damnit! -Not an Abbey quote but it should be. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I used to have penis envy, then I figured out how to pee off a bridge and I was cured. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1991 11:15:20 +0800 From: "Andrew Watson" Subject: New Poll at The Jewel Shrine Hi everyone, I have added a new poll to my Jewel page. The old one will stay there. You'll have to go there to see what the new one is !!!! :). Thanks. Seeyas. Andrew Watson awatson@wantree.com.au "The Jewel Shrine" http://www.thespis.com/awatson/jewel.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 23:54:47 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: Jewel Message to the List : 5/23/97 Return-Path: Delivered-To: nestle@ptd.net Received: (qmail 4463 invoked from network); 23 May 1997 18:51:17 -0000 Received: from shore.shore.net (root@192.233.85.136) by srv1.ptd.net with SMTP; 23 May 1997 18:51:17 -0000 Received: from jane.smoe.org (smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA07118; Fri, 23 May 1997 14:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15486; Fri, 23 May 1997 14:51:16 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 23 May 1997 14:50:08 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15392; Fri, 23 May 1997 14:49:46 -0400 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15374; Fri, 23 May 1997 14:49:26 -0400 From: ABershaw@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id OAA23948; Fri, 23 May 1997 14:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 14:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970523144659_-297090931@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: jewel-announce@smoe.org, jewel@smoe.org, jewel-news@smoe.org, xenomorph@sprynet.com, glipnows@qc.bell.ca, JewelArc1@aol.com, ABershaw@aol.com, W1GGY2@aol.com, DuckOfPrey@aol.com, ducksoup@spectra.net Subject: MrBB-FROM JEWEL 5-23-97 Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 9c5e92ca6bdae46b30a9ca5d302a64e4 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 To my EDA's Together we have no limit because you have taken a place of being inspired which focuses energy into your own lives, rather than idolizing me which is, well, idle--for both of us. I love the card, I love the star, and most of all I think the foundation is extraordinary--you are making my dreams come true, and yours and a lot of others. I'm so proud of all of you and honored. My praises. Thanks for the best birthday, I'm very touched, xoxo Jewel xoxo in Oslo, Norway ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 23:55:14 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: Lenedra Message to the List : 3/27/97 Return-Path: Delivered-To: nestle@ptd.net Received: (qmail 4824 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1997 17:48:29 -0000 Received: from shore.shore.net (root@192.233.85.136) by postoffice.ptd.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 1997 17:48:29 -0000 Received: from jane.smoe.org (daemon@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA10193; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA29966; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:46:37 -0500 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:43:34 -0500 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA29917; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:43:28 -0500 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA29909; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:43:04 -0500 From: ABershaw@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id MAA05582; Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:40:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 12:40:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970327124056_-1872819097@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: Jewel@smoe.org, rdbutler@earthlink.net, TJtalken@aol.com, DuckOfPrey@aol.com, ducksoup@spectra.net Subject: MrBB -Message from Lenedra about Richard Butlers incredible post. :-) Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 95d6ca7f1ac9e675e892e661aa99c79d X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Hi Y'all, Last night Duff sent me Richard Butler's incredible post & I was so knocked out that I sent it to Lenedra. Here's what she had to say: <> As soon as I get more info, I'll pass it on to you all. :-) Alan(MrBB) PS. If the newslist moderator wants to forward this to the newslist, please also include Richards post entitled "Daydreams on a rainy day" so those folks will know what all this is in reference to. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 19:33:42 PDT From: "Lucas Holt" Subject: NJC: Opinions I am very disappointed with the comments I have seen to Wendy about her posting of her grandfathers health. Some Angels you turned out to be. Many of you have shown your concern and I think that is very kewl of you. The remainder of you need to examine yourselves. I don't think Jewel's answer to someone in that situation would be cruel. My condolenses wendy. From personal experience I know what that is like. I am very sorry. Luke - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 23:54:29 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: Jewel Message to the List : 4/25/97 Return-Path: Delivered-To: nestle@ptd.net Received: (qmail 29408 invoked from network); 26 Apr 1997 02:23:16 -0000 Received: from shore.shore.net (root@192.233.85.136) by srv1.ptd.net with SMTP; 26 Apr 1997 02:23:16 -0000 Received: from jane.smoe.org (daemon@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA12429; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA06556; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:19:16 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:10:03 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA06152; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:09:48 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA06128; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 22:09:27 -0400 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA05104; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:07:51 -0400 From: ABershaw@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id VAA28668; Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970425210706_-1166621065@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: jewel@smoe.org, jewel-news@smoe.org Subject: MrBB- MESSAGE FROM JEWEL Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: 4fa39b5f04e4ee3534016eea7a4af66f Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Hi all, As I mentioned earlier today Jewel & Lenedra both love this JPK Fund raiser we're all doing together as well as the EDAF idea. Jewel just sent me a somewhat related message (how timely!) to forward to you. Enjoy, :-) Alan(MrBB) Hi! Thanks for taking time to write to me. Most of all, thanks for helping me get where I am. YOUR SUPPORT HAS ALLOWED ME TO LIVE MY DREAM. I'm getting tons of mail and I love it! If I write to everyone I would be choosing to write letters instead of songs. And you know my choice! So I'm going to take a journal approach and write bits and pieces of letters as I have time. Lately I've been thinking about the sweet gifts many of you have sent me. I'd like to spread the giving around a little more. I have so many gifts and blessings in my life, but there are many others deserving praise or in need of a kind word or gesture. Give THEM a gift from YOU and me! It would make me really happy to hear about the sharing you have done for someone else. So spread your wings and let me hear from you. I can't wait to hear about what you do! Thanks for the love, Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 00:33:24 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: List Memories: 6/8/96 =) Hi everyone! =) I have recently been spending some time browsing through the Jewel@smoe archive found at http://www.smoe.org . I enjoy the memories of last year at this time, when JewelStock was in its infancy and personalities were just beginning to bloom. Many of us were a little bit different in those days! =) Ahhh.... memories.... =) From time to time, I plan to re-post some of those posts from yester-year. Here is one from exactly one year ago! =) Remember when... ================================================================== From: Akira Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:08:10 -0400 Subject: HERE WE GO... JEWEL STOCK INFO!!!!!! fellow angels... here begins a journey to JEWEL STOCK.,.... Mike and ME, Akira, have begun the process to organize this get together with JEWEL. The concert is going to be held at or near Woodstock, and it's going to be soon. Jewel is going to begin recording on June 18th there and around that time is when she will give us a concert. So it's going to be fast and soon. We want to begin taking a head count of all those that can make it to this event. EMAIL ME AT CHI3@IX.NETCOM.COM to tell me if you can make it or not and how many. I am beginning to put together a member/concert list and need to take a rough head count. I will then email you later to confirm if you are coming or not. For those angels that can't make it, I will personally make a digital recording (if possible) of the whole thing, and send it to you. All I will need from you is to cover the postage and single regular tape. So all will enjoy Jewel even if you can't be there in person. SO begin the email and We'll keep you informed. This listing will be posted for 7~10 days so that everyone can have a = chance to email me.~Akira ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #419 ***************************