From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #393 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, May 27 1997 Volume 02 : Number 393 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC: I'm Back! And The Disney Thing [That Little Voice Inside Your Head <] NJC:That was fun! [Damian ] Re: Jewel on Hard Rock Live ["Larry G." ] NJC Is this good luck or bad luck?!? =| [sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the ] NJC Seattle-gorge lilith fair [Clabberhag@aol.com] Re: Jewel on Hard Rock Live [FabCAGal@aol.com] silver lining guitar tab help [dazzle@eastky.com] NJC:Patti Griffin [Victor Igor Wasylczenko ] RBC: Rugburns at the Bellyup Next date [Erick ] Re: NJC: Eww, guys I am so disgusted [sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Eve] [none] [Ken Moore ] Re: [Jessica ] Re: [Jessica ] NJC:THE MIGHTY BURRITOHEAD [Victor Igor Wasylczenko ] NJC: Multiple EDA Disorder ["Adrian du Plessis" ] Re: SILVER LINING -- HERE YOU GO ["Adrian du Plessis" ] TRADING [Andrew Chandler ] Re: [Casey Hansen ] NJC whatsoever:breakups, my story [She Who Is ] Re: [Casey Hansen ] NJC: where is? [That Little Voice Inside Your Head ] Re: Jewel on Hard Rock Live [Tlcathome@aol.com] EDA gathering, Lancaster [She Who Is ] JC: Foolish Games [BenFrancis@webtv.net (Ben Simpelo)] Re: LC: a suggestion [Victor Igor Wasylczenko ] The MTV 500 [BenFrancis@webtv.net (Ben Simpelo)] Drunks [XxEDGExX ] T.V.Guide "King/Queen" Update ["T.Manley" ] NJC: Jewel Yams [cdallner@usr.com] Re: NJC whatsoever:breakups, my story [Morse ] MrBB-Approx 50 Tour books left-Ordering info [ABershaw@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 22:06:57 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: NJC: I'm Back! And The Disney Thing Hi! who is going to the California Disney thingie? I need a ride and when is it?! hmmm ok thanks! Love, Lora **************************************************************************** Let them love, Peter For they've had no time They should have birds, songs, and trees And hills to climb ~Jewel Kilcher and Edwin McCain **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 00:58:36 -0400 From: Damian Subject: NJC:That was fun! Hey ya'll EDA's, just got off the IRC. First time I've had fun at night since my girlfriend's parents wouldn't let me see her no more :-(, well not until she's 18, bummer that's two years away! Oh well you guys do provide great fun on the #Jewel channel. Thanks to all of you on the chat line yesterday. BIG thanks to Gian for introducing me to all of you, your the best man! Hope to see ya'll soon! Damian Nguyen Fire is cool, burn something today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 22:25:16 -0700 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: Jewel on Hard Rock Live DevonFox97@aol.com wrote: > i've started thinking it's going to her > head.which is > natural i guess, just disapointing... any thoughts? > > Kristen, the EDA newbie =) She was just tired. MONUMENTALLY tired. (She was ok in sound check that day, but she said she'd had only a couple hours of sleep that week; her throat was still sore, too.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 01:25:32 EDT From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: NJC Is this good luck or bad luck?!? =| Hi Angels, I was the guy that posted that I had won some stuff y107, a radio station here in L.A., yesterday, but because I was only 17, I couldn't have a chance to win tickets to the Jewel concert in Dallas (sorry, I said it was in Houston the last time), with the Wallflowers, Bush, and some other bands. Well, just a few minutes ago, I won again!! Hello?!? Am I the only one listening to this station?!? =) So that would have meant 2 chances to win tickets to the Jewel concert (I'm calling it the Jewel concert, even though there are a bunch of other bands there too, cuz she just plain out rocks!), but nooo...I had to be over 17. I shoulda used my dad's name or something. Mark - --- Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. - --Jewel "Absence of Fear" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 01:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Clabberhag@aol.com Subject: NJC Seattle-gorge lilith fair Is there a gathering planned for the Gorge lilith fair show? Id really like to meet some of you and we should all plan to meet somewhere before or during the show! Also what seats does everyone have? Ive got the cheap ones:( I want to get better ones so if anyone has any, let me know! Take care Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 02:08:39 -0400 (EDT) From: FabCAGal@aol.com Subject: Re: Jewel on Hard Rock Live InK a message dated 97-05-27 01:10:25 EDT, DevonFox97@aol.com writes: << has she incredibly changed? she was nice, but in a very distanced sort of way. i was hoping she'd be so friendly and outgoing or at least humble, but i was sort of disapointed. please don't bash me- she's still my favorite singer (or one of them), but i've started thinking it's going to her head.which is natural i guess, just disapointing... any thoughts? Kristen, the EDA newbie =) >> Kristen...from what I have seen, and what a close friend of hers has said...she has changed a lot from the Innerchange days. In fact, toward the end of those days is when it started. It was said that she used to talk to everyone after her shows...but towards the end, which lost her a lot of respect in PB and LJ, she would count her money, and bitch about it, THEN talk to people. I am still a great fan too, and have a hard time wondering whether this is just the way it goes, or if a facsade was present from the beginning. I would hope it to be the former. Although, I have heard that she is coming back down to earth slowly, but surely. Hope that helps. Anyone else have input??? Mandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 01:09:16 -0400 From: dazzle@eastky.com Subject: silver lining guitar tab help If anyone has a guitar tab for the song, "silver lining", or that knows how to play it email me, at dazzle@eastky.com. Please!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:45:10 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: NJC:Patti Griffin Found this on the Springsteen mailing list. Thought you might find it interesting. And take notice of the writers name. > From: Nikos Katopodis > Subject: An Amazing New Voice > Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 14:25:46 -0400 (EDT) > > Hi Everyone! > I don't post very often but after seeing the show I saw last Tuesday night > I felt it to be necessary. > I saw a singer/songwriter named Patti Griffen- I'm sure that some of you > have at least heard of her. If you've been lucky enough to see her > perform or hear her debut albulm "Living With Ghosts" you know where I'm > coming from here. She is truly awesome- her songs are beautiful and > insightful, her voice is fucking amazing and she is great with the guitar- > (Joni Mitchell would be very proud!). > Anyway of more relevence to this particular audience....during the encores > of her 1 hour 20 minute set at The Fez (N.Y.City) she said something about > doing "this tune" for some freinds in the audience who were big > "Springsteen fans" needless to say I almost lost it completely when she > layed out "Stolen Car" - I am not even going to try and say how incrdeible > it was- it was definately an all time musical high light for myself. > Why am writing all this??? > To tell my fellow freinds in Bruce to GO SEE PATTI GRIFFEN IF YOU GET THE > CHANCE AND IF YOU DONT THEN BUY HER CD AND ENJOY!!! > p.s. In an interview of her that I found in this on line music magazine > she cited Ricki Lee Jones and Bruce as two of her biggest influences. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:18:46 -0700 From: Erick Subject: RBC: Rugburns at the Bellyup Next date The Rugburns will be playing at the Bellyup June 27th!! See Ya there. Erick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 02:34:03 EDT From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: Re: NJC: Eww, guys I am so disgusted >Name: THE MIGHTY BURRITOHEAD >LOCATION: NOT ALASKA >bIRTHDATE: duckofprey >Marital Status: currently doing your mom >Hobbies: Harassing EDA's worldwide >Occupation: Ex-EDA > >Does anyone know who this guy is? why does he have to be so mean? Oh yeah, I know this guy. He joined the Rugburns list a few weeks ago, saying that he got kicked out of this list for harrassing members (surprise, surprise). Then, people on the Rugburns list started saying for him to be kicked out, because all he does is act like Beevis and Butthead. He even e-mailed me saying nothing but Beevis and Butthead quotes. I didn't reply, because I knew all he wanted was attention. Don't pay any attention to him. Mark - --- Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. - --Jewel "Absence of Fear" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 03:11:11 -0400 From: Ken Moore Subject: [none] GAY PEOPLE SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 02:18:07 -0500 From: Jessica Subject: Re: Ken Moore wrote: > > GAY PEOPLE SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! You must be gay, then. Everyone, try not to pay attention, and give this guy the pleasure by writing back. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 02:30:59 -0500 From: Jessica Subject: Re: Do you really hate gays that much, or are you just trying to start a new thread, to get a lot of hate mail back? jessica ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 00:31:23 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: NJC:THE MIGHTY BURRITOHEAD Lately there has been some burrito-bashing on both the Rugburns list and this one. I am not about to defend his actions, but I do want to put in some good words for him. Burritohead is a veteran of more Jewel concerts than most of us. He also attended JewelStock. He is a DJ on a college radio station. He is the only DJ on the station that plays Jewel in a regular rotation. He just started playing Rugburns despite having to fight to do so with the program director. During Elizabeth Hummels cross country tour I tried to help her fill in some gaps in her schedule. So I went to fellow EDA Burritohead and asked him for a favor. He pulled some strings and took my word about EH and got her booked for a live radio performance and interview. He put his reputation on the line doing so. You may want to ask what reputation. At his job he is well respected. Due to a schedule change, EH couldn't except the gig. We had several very nice conversations. He is extremely bright. He was also very accomadating and friendly. He was also straightforward and honest. What he did for me was a very EDA thing to do. I was also burrito-bombed several times. All I did was ignore him and he stopped. Now that I said nice things about him, he will probably do his best to prove me wrong. But I'm prepared for him. For those of you that never ate a real Tijuana Burrito, let me warn you. If you eat at the wrong place you might get the shits. But one thing for certain, burritos always give you gas. So all a Burrito-bomb is, is a lot of hot air. Maybe it's just time for him to change his diet. Igor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 00:57:25 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: NJC:Re: You forgot to add the NJC in your letter. Ken Moore wrote: > > GAY PEOPLE SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! I've heard the same thing. Most of them won't deny it either. But I would also like to add that they also feel, hurt, cry, love, give, work, teach, and if they have to they fight. Just like you most likely did, they started out being nursed by their mothers. That must mean you suck to? A long time ago I wrote: > As many of you know, I have a problem with the English language. Yea, > I've > been here a long time but I still get confused. All this talk about guys > suck, brings back bad memories of my youth. When I first started hearing > people use the word suck, they did so with so many expressions on there > faces > and with so many word combinations, it was very hard to make out the true > meaning. You know how you can at times figure out what a word means just > by > how its used or how its said. > > Let me give you some examples of how I've heard it used. > > She sucks. - Said with a smile. Sometimes as an answer to "how was she"? > She sucks. - Said while cowardly pointing at someone. > She sucks. - Said by a male while walking around like a rooster shortly > after getting out of the back seat of a car. > She sucks. - Said in a whisper by a gathered group of males. Usually > followed by everyone calling for dates. > She sucks! - Said with anger. Usually sign of a bad date. > She sucks? - Said as a question. > She sucks? - Said with suprise. > He sucks! - Said with anger. Sometimes as an answer to "how was he" > He sucks! - Said very often at sporting events. > He sucks. - Said as a warning. > He sucks. - Said with a smile by another male. > > This is only a short list. I've heard it used with the words you, they, > and > I. Other forms of the word appear as sucked, sucking and sometimes suck. > When I went into my thesaurus, I found the word slurp. I tried using it > instead but it just doesn't sound the same. Something is lost in the > translation. This is all said by me to encourage discussion. But I can > see > my mailbox filling up with one line posts with the words, YOU SUCK. But > then > I'll just be pissed off. Or is it pissed on? I just get easily confused. > > Just trying to suck up. > Igor igorwas@smartcitysys.com > > "That great big sucking sound...." > -Ross Perot ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 04:41:43 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: NJC: Multiple EDA Disorder First, the four Larry's became one. Then the two Mandy's became three. Now we have two Mikes swapping inside scoops on Jewel's real/not real tv project. This is wonderful. And those were really interesting posts Mike. Yours too Mike. (I'm being serious. It's fascinating to learn how the business machinery turns. Keep it up!) One thing I'd like to say is whoever is talking so regularly to Bibi -- please tell her I love the shirt ("My heart is all these things; always roaming blue sky") and love the Tiny Lights tour poetry book she designed. And whoever's talking to Lenedra all the time -- please tell her I love the lullabye she sang for us (Little Bird). And whoever's talking to Jewel and everyone, whenever - -- please send them love from me and all other Adrians and EDAs. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 04:31:23 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Re: SILVER LINING -- HERE YOU GO (BTW, does discussion of a song co-written by Jewel count as JC or SJC?) Thanks everyone for all the SILVER LINING posts. Let me make one thing perfectly clear. I am not a crook. (I am not a kruk?) What I want to say is that I watched the Phillies in their heroic seasons, and know about John Kruk. As unpatriotic as it may seem for a Canadian, I'd have been happy if they'd won the World Series (if they could have passed Atlanta to face the Toronto Blue Jays.) Anyway, I lifted that version of song lyrics from a Rugburns web-site. The moral is, watch out for anything you find on a site called "Drunk Like Me"! I do like the "coder-pen hon" mistake, though (instead of "co-dependent hon"). It kind makes one think of Cap'n Crunch. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 04:54:23 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: NJC: Multiple EDA Disorder And I won't even ask how many Harrises there really are... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 06:51:42 -0400 From: Andrew Chandler Subject: TRADING I've seen all these stories about traders who never trade back. Could someone/anyone send me a list of bad trades you've had? Andrew. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 05:35:11 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: Ken Moore wrote: > > GAY PEOPLE SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, I guess you don't have to pass an ignorance or an intellegence test to become an Every Day Angel, this guy is just wrong! What a Toaster Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:14:16 -0400 (EDT) From: She Who Is Subject: NJC whatsoever:breakups, my story Hi everybody...Those of you who couldn't care less about my personal life, feel free to delete right now. It might seem odd that I am posting such personal stuff, but it will help me, and it might help you. My boyfriend and I broke up this past weekend. His name is Fizz. He and I had been together for a year and a month and a half. Basically, we broke up because I wasn't happy in the relationship. Because I wasn't happy, every few months I'd decide that "maybe we should break up." This didn't make the relationship very happy for him. Besides from those times he had no problem at all with the relationship. My problem was that I felt unfulfilled, and the relationship felt stagnant to me. Plus, I spent so much time doubting his love for me that I couldn't be happy. It's also possible that I demanded more of him than he could give me. So, we broke up. It was both harder and easier than I thought it would be. I miss him terribly (or awesomely, because it may be a blessing; all things are, after all), but I feel strangely calm. And I feel renewed. I realize all sorts of things that I didn't before, things that I knew logically but didn't truly believe (else I would have implemented them) For example, I always knew that ultimately only you are responsible for your own happiness. Only you can choose to be happy -- noone can make you feel happy. Or fulfilled. And no matter how much anyone else loves you, it doesn't 'make' you feel loved. Fizz loved me more than anyone in the world ever has. He loved me with all that in him was capable of love. I see that now. I saw the pain in his face yesterday, and we held one another and cried for a long time. But I didn't feel loved while I was in that relationship; because I didn't love myself. It hurts so much that he's gone. Yet I know it's for the best. Already I can see the difference in my life, because already I'm consciously loving myself and things *feel* right (in the intuitive sense of the word, not the emotional sense, though intuitive senses often give rise to emotional ones). I feel I've reached a new level in my life. I can't help but think maybe we'll get back together. Firstly, that's completely natural to think when one breaks up, and I accept that that's what I'm thinking and feeling. He told me to remember that he'll always love me. And at this time I believe that I will always love him. It's enough to make me almost want to run back into his arms. But I know that I can't, and I know that I won't, at least not at this time. If I were to go back at this time, nothing would change. I know that. If I'm going to go back, it's not going to be 'going back' but seeking him, because I stoutly refuse to go back in life. Besides that, one just CAN'T. I am working whole-heartedly on turning my life into something wonderful. I mean, it already is, but I'm going to make it even better. I'm going to love myself more and work on my problems. And maybe in time I can seek Fizz out and we might be able to have a relationship again, a NEW relationship. And if that doesn't happen, there will be someone else. I've read that the healthier we feel after leaving a relationship, the healthier that relationship was. If we feel that we need that person and that we're going into withdrawl, that relationship was unhealthy. So I comfort myself with the thought that I was able to have an overall healthy relationship. Oh, but I miss him so, and I accept and honor that. And it hurts, and I accept that too. But when life shits on you, thank God for the fertilizer. And I don't really feel shit upon. I just hurt. There's a difference. There's no resentment. Well, that's my story. Thank you very very much if you read it all. And if you didn't, I find it highly unlikely that you would be reading this paragraph. May God bless you all always and forever. Bless and Be Blessed; spread the Love! Christina ^ ^ ( \ / ) (_ \*/ _) (_ O _) ( s| > < |s ) ( / \ ) (/ / \ \) /angel\ --------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 06:18:43 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: CONNELL@taurus.cs.lmco.com wrote: > > Casey, U wrote: > > > >Well, I guess you don't have to pass an ignorance or an intellegence > > test to become an Every Day Angel, this guy is just wrong! > > This clown isn't even on the list. He subscribes, posted and then > unsubscribed. > > Mike That's what I'm talking, there sahould be some kind of screening process to be on this list, a test or something Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 06:58:37 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: NJC: where is? What is the url for the EDAdventure picture site? I wanna go look! Love, Lora **************************************************************************** Let them love, Peter For they've had no time They should have birds, songs, and trees And hills to climb ~Jewel Kilcher and Edwin McCain **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:06:34 -0700 From: naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) Subject: LC: a suggestion Here's something that may aviod conflict as well as lessen the amount of unnecessary posts. What I'm seeing is that when someone posts something mean to the list, like "so-and-so sucks" or "so-and-so is stupid", there are no more mean responses--I think this is great! But I still see posts saying that "that guy who posted that must not be very intelligent" with the original post quoted. While it may be true, quoting the original post is just going to make people read "so-and-so sucks" in every response. Since no one wants that, let's try to completely ignore posts with "so-and-so is stupid". While this may seem impossible, remember that the original person who posted is just trying to cause problems...there is no reason we should waste time replying and discussing it - that's exactly what they want. If you see something like "so-and-so sucks", then don't even bother replying...just delete it. It saves everybody from unnecessary anger/stress and also prevents too much unnecesary mail in everyone's box. Thanks! {\o/} <------ Kelly's angel - can I use this or is it patented? =) /_\ Thanks, Naveen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 15:57:37 +0200 From: Marian Veselcic Subject: Jewel concert in Berlin Hello Angels Just returning from Berlin seeing Jewel the first time on stage. Jewel is really great. Hearing her in concert is much more enjoyable than listening to CDs. First of all I have to thank all the EDAs who made it possible that we (Kris Kane, The Crying Angel and myself) finally got to the concert. It took place at Quasimodo a nice club with a good atmosphere. I arrived early so there were only the german tour officicals present and I was able to talk to them. They said it was hard for Jewel to do all the interviews and but it'll surly help to make her more popular in Germany. As the concert started there were about 200 people present. It was very intimate and we got front row seats because we were the first who got in. Imagine we were sitting just 5 feet away from her. It was fantastic. When she got in she caught everyones eyes. She started with 100 miles away and it was like electricity floating through the room. Here is a list of songs I remembered: 1000 miles away Pieces of you Foolish games Don't Cold Song Angel standing by Sometimes it be that way Morning Song Who will save your soul You were meant for me Chime Bells During the show she told us some stories about the songs (like meeting Bob Dillen) and the time passed too fast. She program ended with 'You were meant for me' but she hat to come back three times before the concert ended. Especially 'Chime Bells' which was one of the very last songs drove the audiance crazy. After the show we were really lucky to get backstage to talk to her for a few minutes and get autographs. It was a great thing talking to her even only a few sentences. Unfortunately Kris and Shana had to leave for the train to get their flight back to the states so we couldn't talk any longer. But just two days showed me how meeting other EDAs means having a good time together. Kris got the show on videotape and took lots of pictures so hopefully he will make a webpage about his visit in Germany. It was all very exciting and - quoting another listener - really hypnotizing. I hope she'll soon come back to Germany to see her again. Marian a German EDA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: Jewel on Hard Rock Live In a message dated 97-05-27 04:58:36 EDT, you write: << DevonFox97@aol.com wrote: > i've started thinking it's going to her > head.which is > natural i guess, just disapointing... any thoughts? > > Kristen, the EDA newbie =) She was just tired. MONUMENTALLY tired. (She was ok in sound check that day, but she said she'd had only a couple hours of sleep that week; her throat was still sore, too.) >> Also, it was only a few nights before that she did the Unplugged taping and hadn't gotten much sleep then. Not to mention she was probably still a little jet-lagged from being in Europe and not giving her body the rest it needed to combat the jet-lag :-) Tammy :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:42:48 -0400 (EDT) From: She Who Is Subject: EDA gathering, Lancaster This past weekend I had the good fortune of meeting still more EDAs! We had a little get-together in Lancaster, because Thirza was coming. Unfortunately, we didn't get to see her! That was a real bummer, because I was looking forward to it. It started Saturday night, when TomMiles and Stephpoet came over to get me. We had made tentative plans but they called Saturday to finalize them, and left messages on my machine. I spent a turmoiled evening online until I finally decided I might as well go out and have some fun (Thanks for listening, Mike), so I finally called Tom's cell phone. He and steph were in Borders at the time, and the people near them didn't look too happy when his phone rang. Anyway, they came and got me, we went to Park City to pick up Vicki, Tom's fiancee, and then we went to the Monk's Tunic in Lancaster. I'd heard a lot about Vicki, but I'd never met her, so I was excited. She's not on the list, just in case you were wondering, but she's really awesome. The Monk's Tunic was unpleasant though I did have fun kicking Stephanie's ass at Connect Four for awhile. Tom, Steph and I all had artichoke heart pizza which gave us tummyaches. Then we went to Cafe Angst because Tom and Vicki know the owner. There was a really BAD mural on the wall there (as opposed to a mural on my butt <-- sarcasm towards my wording) and Steph and I completely ripped it apart. Verbally, not physically. Then we headed home, I called my boyfriend on Tom's cellphone and Tom dropped me off at his house for a lovely discussion. At eleven thirty the next morning, Tom, Steph, and David Greene came over to my apartment. This was my first time meeting David. He took the train in from New York for the day just to see us. It's too bad that he only had a limited amount of time with us, but we enjoyed his company nonetheless. As I did the dishes, Tom, Steph and David had a very impassioned conversation about guns. At one point there was an attempt to lure me into the conversation but I stayed out of it on the whole. I don't like guns, and I don't like discussing them with people who do like guns. We then went to Park City real quick and headed over to Tom and Vicki's house. There we listened to CDs, talked, and of course checked email. I needed to do something with my hands or the tension in my body would cause me to explode (if you're wondering about the tension, it's related to my last post, NJC:breakups, my story), so I started playing solitaire. Tom went to work, and Crunch and John showed up finally, and Steph read us a story she wrote. We went to the train station to see David off (Godbless!) and wait for Tom to show up (he does a security driving-around thing) so he could meet Crunch and John. Which he did. I was hungry, and I let everybody know, several times, and we went to Doc Holliday's. The waiter's name was Chuck, and he needed a cigarette. Everyone decided I gave him such a hard time that waiter-trainees should be responsible for ME and that would give them more than enough training. What can I say? I'm 'high-maintenance.' We talked and joked around and did a little impromptu therapy and Steph read some poems and the meal cost a million dollars and then it was time to go. So Crunch and John (John drove) very gallantly gave me a ride home and I truly enjoyed their company and our conversations. John reminds me of Jim Carrey. We hit it off quite well. Anyway, it was lots of fun, and I'm glad we did it, and I hope we get together again real soon. Godbless you all! Bless and Be Blessed; spread the Love! Christina ^ ^ ( \ / ) (_ \*/ _) (_ O _) ( s| > < |s ) ( / \ ) (/ / \ \) /angel\ --------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:04:46 -0700 From: BenFrancis@webtv.net (Ben Simpelo) Subject: JC: Foolish Games I was watching Crossroads on VH-1 this morning and they were showing the Foolish Games video. It's the one when Jewel stopped by and did a performance at the show early last year. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:29:53 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: Re: LC: a suggestion Naveen asked: > {\o/} <------ Kelly's angel - can I use this or is it patented? =) > /_\ > I think we should ask Kelly if we all could use it. Igor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:42:13 -0700 From: BenFrancis@webtv.net (Ben Simpelo) Subject: The MTV 500 Well, the MTV 500 (the top 500 videos of all time) is finally over and the #1 video is: SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT by Nirvana The complete list is available at: http://www.mtv.com/tubescan/top500/index.html And for those who didn't know yet, look who's at #463. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: XxEDGExX Subject: Drunks Why do I hate drunks? Help me! - -jeremy Y8b Y8P Y8b Y8P Y8b Y8P Y8b Y Y8b Y Y8b Y Y8b Y8b Y8b e Y8b e Y8b e Y8b d8b Y8b d8b Y8b d8b Y8b x x e d g e x x . c o m ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 12:40:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "T.Manley" Subject: T.V.Guide "King/Queen" Update Everyone that can needs to get there vote in. Our Angel is in 4th of 6 places with only 11% of the vote. She's lead by Tori Amos (37), Gwen Stefani (28), and Shirley Manson (17). She does have a good lead on The Spice Girls' Geri (3) and Toni Braxton (1). King results so far: Liam Gallagher (34), Trent Reznor (34), Gavin Rossdale (13), Jacob Dylan (6), Anthony Kiedis (6), and Maxwell (4). I know many of you probably think this thing is not that big of a deal but I think she deserves better than 4th since she is #1 with the majority of us. And remember,she never made it to her H.S. Prom so we could crown her "Queen" with this honor. The voting web address is: http://www.tvguide.com/music/features/king/index.sml trav (afil) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:49:45 -0500 From: cdallner@usr.com Subject: NJC: Jewel Yams I thought this might be kind of funny to post but in Chicago here we have a chain of grocery stores called Jewel and I can't get practically anything w/ jewel on it. I can get you those Jewel hot dogs Igor! Well i don't know if anyone will find this funny but it just cracks me up. Ok bye now! Carrie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Morse Subject: Re: NJC whatsoever:breakups, my story Interesting story and timing. Interesting, because I am going through a very similar situation. However, there are a few differences. My relationship is a marriage of 15 years (been together for 20), and it ended in her having an affair. So there are resentments there on my part for sure. She said alot of the same things to me that you said in your message about the relationship not feeding her anymore. The problem though is she didn't bother to tell me any of that before she started the affair and left me. Kinda sucks when you don't even get the opportunity to make changes or talk about the problems and differences. Also, you hit the nail right on the head when you said that no one can make you happy but yourself. I think she and I were a victim of the opposite of that. She looked to me for her happiness and I looked to her for mine. A deadly co-dependant situation to be in relationship wise. At least it seems that you gave your boyfriend the opportunity to decide whether or not changes on his part were needed or desired. Have you considered your (possibly uncommunicated? ) perceptions and expectations as a possible source of problems for your relationship as well? There's definitely two sides to consider for sure. I wish you a lot of luck and love in your life. And I don't think its weird at all that you would write this for others to see. I saw it, it touched me, and now we are able to connect in a commonality because of it. Thanks for sharing. We should all do that more. I think whatever decision you make will be the right one for you as long as you and your happiness are number one on the list. And it sounds like that's the direction you are heading in. I wrote and recorded several songs about my ongoing dilemma which you might find some connection with. If you have any interest in hearing them, let me know and I'll send them to you. Its amazing how things like your message pop up all over the place. I like to think of them as silver linings in all the clouds of pain. And they are all over the place if you just look for them. And it sounds as though you are. I am too. It's interesting how stuff like this changes you. I consider this to be the worst and best year of my life. Because all of this has " woken inside of me a new and excited voice." ( quote from one of my songs). I guess I've been asleep at the wheel of life for way too long now. Good luck to you. Write back if you'd like. - -Paul P.S. I really like what you wrote "When life shits on you, thank God for the fertilizer" That is such a true statement. I should use that in a song somewhere. :) >>> She Who Is 05/27/97 09:14am >>> Hi everybody...Those of you who couldn't care less about my personal life, feel free to delete right now. It might seem odd that I am posting such personal stuff, but it will help me, and it might help you. My boyfriend and I broke up this past weekend. His name is Fizz. He and I had been together for a year and a month and a half. Basically, we broke up because I wasn't happy in the relationship. Because I wasn't happy, every few months I'd decide that "maybe we should break up." This didn't make the relationship very happy for him. Besides from those times he had no problem at all with the relationship. My problem was that I felt unfulfilled, and the relationship felt stagnant to me. Plus, I spent so much time doubting his love for me that I couldn't be happy. It's also possible that I demanded more of him than he could give me. So, we broke up. It was both harder and easier than I thought it would be. I miss him terribly (or awesomely, because it may be a blessing; all things are, after all), but I feel strangely calm. And I feel renewed. I realize all sorts of things that I didn't before, things that I knew logically but didn't truly believe (else I would have implemented them) For example, I always knew that ultimately only you are responsible for your own happiness. Only you can choose to be happy -- noone can make you feel happy. Or fulfilled. And no matter how much anyone else loves you, it doesn't 'make' you feel loved. Fizz loved me more than anyone in the world ever has. He loved me with all that in him was capable of love. I see that now. I saw the pain in his face yesterday, and we held one another and cried for a long time. But I didn't feel loved while I was in that relationship; because I didn't love myself. It hurts so much that he's gone. Yet I know it's for the best. Already I can see the difference in my life, because already I'm consciously loving myself and things *feel* right (in the intuitive sense of the word, not the emotional sense, though intuitive senses often give rise to emotional ones). I feel I've reached a new level in my life. I can't help but think maybe we'll get back together. Firstly, that's completely natural to think when one breaks up, and I accept that that's what I'm thinking and feeling. He told me to remember that he'll always love me. And at this time I believe that I will always love him. It's enough to make me almost want to run back into his arms. But I know that I can't, and I know that I won't, at least not at this time. If I were to go back at this time, nothing would change. I know that. If I'm going to go back, it's not going to be 'going back' but seeking him, because I stoutly refuse to go back in life. Besides that, one just CAN'T. I am working whole-heartedly on turning my life into something wonderful. I mean, it already is, but I'm going to make it even better. I'm going to love myself more and work on my problems. And maybe in time I can seek Fizz out and we might be able to have a relationship again, a NEW relationship. And if that doesn't happen, there will be someone else. I've read that the healthier we feel after leaving a relationship, the healthier that relationship was. If we feel that we need that person and that we're going into withdrawl, that relationship was unhealthy. So I comfort myself with the thought that I was able to have an overall healthy relationship. Oh, but I miss him so, and I accept and honor that. And it hurts, and I accept that too. But when life shits on you, thank God for the fertilizer. And I don't really feel shit upon. I just hurt. There's a difference. There's no resentment. Well, that's my story. Thank you very very much if you read it all. And if you didn't, I find it highly unlikely that you would be reading this paragraph. May God bless you all always and forever. Bless and Be Blessed; spread the Love! ( s| > < |s ) /angel\ --------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT) From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MrBB-Approx 50 Tour books left-Ordering info Hi all, Just another quick message regarding Jewel tour booklet sales & continued ordering info. We're down to about 50 booklets left. If you want one still, please get your orders in. Heres instructions again if you want to place an order: 70% of total EDA List sales of these booklets will be donated to the JPK Fund on behalf of Jewel & The EDA Foundation. :-) For more JPK Fund info go to: http://www.endor.org/jpk/ If you are Canadian, please contact: Gerry Lipnowski at: glipnows@qc.bell.ca If you are outside North America, please contact Terrence Williams at: thespis@thespis.com If you live in the USA or simply want to know more, read on: Hi to all USA EDAs that would like to aquire Jewel's "Tiny Lights Tour '97" booklets that were sold during Jewel's recent tour. These booklets contain poetry, writing, vintage & recent photos as well as info about the tour itself. They are 14 pages in length including front & back cover. They were designed by Jewel's assistant & close friend BiBi Bielat. Here's the instructions. Please follow them EXACTLY in order for this to be as easy as possible for us. Cost of the booklets are $10 in American dollars. (same as at the shows) All booklets will be sent 1st class unless you want & pay for Priority mail. All you need to do is send me a standard size manilla envelope (9.5" x 13") that is self adressed & with at least $1.50 in stamps already on it. (Note: DO NOT use postal meter postage! Only stamps. Add an extra 32 cent stamp for each extra booklet ordered up to 5 booklets.) Include $10 cash (NO CHECKS) or money order for each booklet ordered. We will simply put however many booklets you paid for in the envelope & send it back to you. Its that easy. If you want the booklets faster, you can send a Priority mailer with a $3 stamp on it instead of a manilla envelope with $1.50 on it. If you want more than 5 of them, please use a Priority mailer--I can fit up to ten of them in there. Send your self adressed pre-postaged 9.5" x 13" manilla envelope, with $10 cash (or a $10 money order made out to Alan Bershaw) for each booklet ordered to: Jewel Tour Book c/o MrBB P.O. Box 8147 Berlin,CT 06037-8147 Note: If you prefer to send a money order, thats OK. Just make sure its made out to me. (Do not make it out to Jewel or anyone else!). I will be sending Lenedra a bank check for all booklets ordered & if I cannot personally cash your money order, then I cannot send the booklet & must return your order. There's approximately 50 booklets left before they are sold out. I'll keep the list posted to prevent having to return any requests unfilled. Remember, Amyjo & I volunteered to do this because so many EDAs requested it. Please follow the simple instructions. Thanks! MrBB ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #393 ***************************