From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #363 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, May 15 1997 Volume 02 : Number 363 Today's Subjects: ----------------- JC: Jewel Imports [Tien Dang ] NJC: Opps! I messed up in the other subject line [Tien Dang ***The EDA Gift*** [Crunch ] Help a newbie please! [EDAngel1@aol.com] New Pictures [Robert Plafta ] JC: JEWEL IS COMING TO TOLEDO!!!!!!!!!!!!! [jewelfan1@juno.com (Liz A Cl] JC Paris concert review [cohen@easynet.fr (cohen)] Info on Wartesaal ["Peter Jones" ] Mean Fiddler Concert Report [Myles MacRae ] Re: JC Paris concert review [Tlcathome@aol.com] Concert wants/gripes/etc. [Steve ] Re: NJC: "MMMBOP" [Chaplain Dan ] Hanson Album [FlaPanth21@aol.com] Re: Concert wants/gripes/etc. [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Re: Mean Fiddler Concert Report [Chris Groves ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:41:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Tien Dang Subject: JC: Jewel Imports Hey EDAs, Hi!!!!! How's it going? Wow!!! I haven't sent a post to the list for a while. (Hmm....Post?....Speaking of post. They make my favorite cereal. Oh...god, I'm too addicted to Lucky charms. I think I need professional help! I must have some now!!!!!!! heheh ;) :) ) Huh? Where did that come from? Uh....what was I talking about again? Hmm....oh..yeah...Jewel imports. :) Well last friday after going out to eat with my friend. I decided to go to circuit city to find some CDs. And I found two Jewel imports!!!!!! They were both from Germany. One of them had YWMFM, Cold song, and Rocker Girl. The other had WWSYS, Pieces of you, and Emily! Cool!!!!!! They were $9.99 each, so it was like kinda steep! Well, for all of you EDAs that are in Houston. I went to the Circuit City again yesterday after my Nautica Training camp at the J.W. Marriot near there. The Circuit City near the Galleria still has both of the imports. Better hurry! Cuz I only saw one of each yesterday. Well, I gotta go. So all the other EDAs go to Circuit City to try to find this Jewel import. I think someone from Milwaukee got a Jewel import from Circuit City too. Hope you guys find it. Have a nice day!!!!!! :) EDA in Houston who is really happy he got the imports :) Tien "Without you....Everything falls apart.... Without you....It's not as much fun to pick up the pieces"-NIN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:45:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Tien Dang Subject: NJC: Opps! I messed up in the other subject line I messed up in the subject line, I thought I was writing to my bestest net friend (You know who you are! :) ) and I didn't put NJC and I just put EDA in Houston. Sorry. It's like a force of habit or something. Well sorry about that. You guys take care! :) EDA in Houston who messed up, :) Tien "Without you....Everything falls apart.... Without you....It's not as much fun to pick up the pieces"-NIN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 02:52:19 -0400 From: Crunch Subject: JPK : Repost -> ***The EDA Gift*** (Original post: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 22:24:07 -0400) =) Hi everyone! =) My name is Mark Nissley. Most of you know me by the name of "Crunch". Alan was recently given an idea by Jewel. I volunteeed to research it and present it to the list. This is an idea for some- thing to do for Jewel for her birthday, not because we "deify" her, but it is something that she cares about, and we care about her. If this project does not sound right for you, there have been many other options made available on the list. Please maximize your window! ================================================== For those of you that have been following Alan(MrBB) and Mike's posts recently, they have been saying something VERY big was in the works for Jewel's birthday. Well, folks, THIS IS IT. There have been SO MANY good posts recently about birthday gifts for Jewel. We are a very creative, caring, and thoughtful community of angels. So thoughtful and creative, in fact, that we came up with many more possibilities than we could possibly put into action right now. So, after the outpouring of ideas from the list, it seemed the hardest part was finding something simple and angelic. This in mind, Alan explained our wishes to Jewel's mother, Lenedra. After telling her about the many wonderful suggestions from the EDA's, Alan asked for her advice. Much to our surprise, Lenedra had an immediate recommendation! It may accomplish in one opportunity all of the things we hope for Jewel on her birthday. Jewel was recently given a letter at one of the San Diego shows that was a little different than most. It captured her attention. This is the letter: ********************************************************** April 4, 97 Dear Jewel, When you went to collect your award at the American Music Awards show, you made a point of telling people, "never give up hope...it's what got me where I am today.". Meet James Kalanick. A 20 year old without much hope these days. You see, last fall James was returning to his car after running out of gas on the freeway near PB when he was struck from behind by a hit and run driver. The accident leaves James in a quadriplegic state, requiring motorized wheel chair and full time care taker. He will need both for the rest of his life. The driver never slowed or stopped and was never identified. The family had no insurance and live on a limited income. State programs have helped the family on most of the medical bills... Which brings us back to hope. Being confined to a wheel chair for the rest of your life can drastically alter one's dreams. James worked for Baltimore Bagel Co. in La Jolla prior to the accident. Admittedly, he was carefree and hadn't figured out what he wanted to do for a living. Now, however, his dream is to gain a sense of control and independence in his life and return to a job. As his former employer, we're trying to help. James needs a van equipped with a special hydraulic lift for transportration. The total cost is around $40,000. Baltimore Bagel (changing it's name to Einstein Bros Bagels) is having a couple of benefits to raise the necessary money for this vehicle. Would you consider helping us out? .....Matt Sullivan -- Einstein Bros Bagels, San Diego,CA.>> ************************************************************** Many of the ideas that were discussed concerning gifts for Jewel did not involve money. Many, if not most of us, can not afford much in the way of a sizeable donation. Individually, our contribu- tions may seem insignificant. However, small donations from each of us will grow into a combined "EDA Gift" that will make an unmistakable difference. Some intial phone calls have been made to see how easy it would be to put this plan into action. This is what we know: 1) There are other San Diego area benefits going on for James and we can be a small part of accomplishing this very "tangible goal". 2) There are no administration people making money. No money is being spent on advertising, etc. Every single dollar will go towards the equipment James needs. 3) Donations can be sent directly to the James Paul Kalanick Trust already set up specifically for James' equipment. 4) Jewel suggested it. The support of the EDA community toward the JPK Trust need not stop individual EDAs from following through on other great ideas they may have an interest in. The JPK Trust is one very worthy goal that we can all contribute to together. Donations, both large and small, all contribute to the same goal so it doesn't matter what financial situation you are presently in. We need not, and can not, try to raise $40K. Any donation (even one single dollar) is one step closer to the goal. There is alot of people on this list, just imagine if each person donated $5. Jewel's birthday is in just over a month. Jewel has received many gifts throughout her most recent tour and often she responds to them in the same way. She asks that we give to others the hope and inspiration that we once gave her. This is a chance for us to "manifest" that wish. So, how do we do this? How do we donate a few dollars to the James Paul Kalanick Trust for a collective EDA Gift to Jewel on her birthday? After just a few phone calls, it became apparent how simple this would be for us to do as EDAs. Matt Sullivan, James Kalanick's former employer and head of the JPK Trust, is an extremely helpful man. He truly appreciates Jewel's talents and is amazed that she read the letter, let alone get a call from her fans. He had all sorts of questions about who the EDAs are and what it is we are all about. After discussing Jewel and EDAs, Matt described exactly how easy it is to give whatever is available. Each of us can send a check, however large or small, directly to the bank that is holding the James Paul Kalanick Trust (Wells Fargo Bank). Step by step, here it is: Address a check to: James Paul Kalanick Trust In the memo postion of the check write the account number like this: Acct# 6671946366 Post the check in an envelope addressed to: James Paul Kalanick Trust Wells Fargo Bank 1302 Garnet Ave San Diego, CA, 92109 To keep an up to date record of what we have given, an E-mail account has been set up. After each of us has given our small part for James Kalanick, send an e-mail to . Let us know what you gave, the date it was sent off, and the check number. This info will be used to parallel the bank's records and to give the list updates about our efforts. In this way, we can each donate a small amount ($1, $5, $20, or more) to a cause which has captured Jewel's personal attention. Lenedra recommended this as something we could do for Jewel on her birthday. Another EDA offered the idea of sending Jewel a birthday card letting her know what we are doing. She will recieve the card on her birthday while on tour in Europe, reminding her that there are EDAs doing things for her while she is out on the road! This card is in progress, as is a web page (the address to be posted soon!) ***IMPORTANT: PLEASE forward any questions that you have to a new account I have set up for this project at . ALSO, to keep our own tally of the contributions, PLEASE send an email to AFTER you have sent your check stating how much you sent. Liz, Steve Poltz's future wife, is going to keep our efforts updated from this address. Please, carefully read this post again (I know, it's long!). Any comments can be posted to the list. Let everyone know what you think! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:49:43 -0400 (EDT) From: EDAngel1@aol.com Subject: Help a newbie please! EDAs, I've noticed that there have been a lot of newbies on this list requesting some angelfood. I've only been an EDA for a month so I know how it feels to be desperately starving for some angelfood! :) I'm currently dubbing "STL" for any EDA who wants a copy. Now I have 15 people on my waiting list! But I am trying to get all the tapes out! :) So can other EDAs please help a newbie or two?? I don't want to turn any EDA away but I can't copy everything! :) I will try my best! :) Thanks... Right now I'm only taking requests for "STL". So if any EDA wants a copy email me. Mary wannabe angel "In the end only kindness matters" ~jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 01:27:16 -0400 From: Robert Plafta Subject: New Pictures Hello all Eda's... I added some new pictures to my page... I got one from a local magazine, it is grainy and black and white, but fairly nice. I also have added the small one from the cover of last weeks Entertainment Weekly. You will also find the shots from Rolling Stone. Hope you all visit! http://idt.net/~plaf - -- _____________________________________________________________________________ "Let others bring order to chaos. I would bring chaos to order" -K.V. "the rain was there to wash away my tears i wanted to be them but instead i destroyed myself" enigk/hoerner R o b e r t P . P l a f t a p l a f @ i d t . n e t t e n s e n @ f r o n t i e r . w i l p a t e r s o n . e d u New page address! http://idt.net/~plaf _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 07:27:20 EDT From: jewelfan1@juno.com (Liz A Clark) Subject: JC: JEWEL IS COMING TO TOLEDO!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My parents tried to coax me out of bed this morning by saying that Jewel was coming to Toledo, OH...I was like whatever....well I got up and sure enough!!!!!! Jewel will be playing at the Toledo zoo ampitheater on September 6. The day that I have been waiting for two years is finally coming!!!!!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!! Love ya, LIZ-----IS BACK AND READY TO PAAAAAAAAAARTY!!!!!!!!!!!! I know that it sounds cliche, but I'm tired of all this violence ~~Steven J. Poltz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 16:38:19 -0400 From: cohen@easynet.fr (cohen) Subject: JC Paris concert review Hello all EDAs! I'm so happy. I saw Jewel last night. Yes, just 24 hours ago, I was talking to her....I'm still dazed. I went to the concert with my bother. Many of my friends were meeting me there. It took us a while to find the place, because the first place we went to, was so strange looking, that, even though it corresponded to the address, we didn't think it was there. It was a building in the rue Pigalle, in Paris. The rue Pigalle is famous for it's prostitutes, sex shops and what have you. The building we got to looked like some place I would not go into. However, after walking around for a long time, my brother and I decided to go in and see if by any chance this was where Jewel was playing. We found techniciens who said they had no idea who was playing tonight. I showed them a picture, and they finally decided that yeah, it was probably her. So my brother and I showed up at the concert place four hours in advance, hoping she'd come early. Soon another hopeful admirer showed up. We talked and talked about Jewel, and how he'd found out about her. We were sitting in this old rickety staircase, swathed in dim light. When this groupe of Americans came by, they saw me, and they asked me if I was Jewel, which was funny. Anyways, it turned out that Jewel would arrive about two minutes before the concert started and thus, we would not see see her beforehand:( The line got longer as the hours went by. Finally they let us in. We sat on the floor (there were no chairs). Everyone was so well behaved, it was amazing. When Jewel arrived, the room cheered and then hushed. I think we were all stunned. She started singing, then stopped, and said, in her ever so sweet voice, "in the Taxi comming over here, I was imagining that only five people would show up, and here you are". She made you feel so welcome. Her first song was '1000 miles away' or whatever that song is called. She sang a song that she had never yet performed in public, called Last Dance Rodeo. Actually, she's not sure if that will be the title. She also sang this song called Carnivore. She said it was about never trusting your heart to a carnivore, "because, as you know, they are flesh eaters". I WAS WONDERING, is Jewel vegetarian? I am, so I suppose I read a lot into her words, but it really made me wonder. Anybody know? SHe said it was a new song. Then she sang mostly only songs from POY. These are my overall impresseions from the concert. (I don't have much time to write, I'm in the middle of my finals, but I want to give all you loving EDA's an idea of what it was like.) The room was small, but packed. There must have been 250 people max. Everyone was well behaved. Except for the instance when Jewel commented on how hot this room was, and some guy cried out "so are you!", the croud was very respectful. She was wearing black pants, shoes with high heals and a black suit top. She wore no make-up, her hair was "normal" looking. She was absolutly stunning. Jewel is really photogenic, but up close, she's so much more beautiful. When she sings, she is sincerely into her songs. ie : when she's singing about somthing sad, you're think she's going to cry. Her voice is much better than on POY. She plays around with it, and the croud loved it. I think she could feel all our good vibes, because she looked so happy. At the end, we got the talk to her. I was wearing a t-shirt that said EDA in blue on a red heart. She asked me where I'd gotten it, and I told her I'd made it. I had all these qurestions for her, but basically, I was so thrilled to be talking to her that I forgot everything I had to say. Oh well, some other time. For anyone who has any doubt about how Jewel is with her fans, I can assure you that she couldn't be nicer. Well, that will be all. One last comment : this is an unforgetable experience. All my friends were thrilled that I had convinced them to come. I wish I could have sat on the floor listening to her forever. I wish I knew her personanly. This is the first time I'm looking up to someone famous. It's a weird thing to do, because she is, in a way, unatteinable. However, I hope to someday really talk to her, for longer. WOW. Sarah Cohen By the way, are there any other French EDA's? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 20:34:29 -0400 From: "Peter Jones" Subject: Info on Wartesaal Dear Kris (and anyone else going to see Jewel perform in Germany on her birthday), I just got back from Koln (Cologne), where I did some tracking down of information on Jewel's upcoming 23 May show. I will be away from my computer starting again tomorrow, but did want to pass along the vital information. First, it is actually Alter Wartesaal. It is a discotecque attached to the Cologne Haubtbanhof (main train station). Directions from the station are: 1. Exit front of train station (Dom [main church in Cologne] will be on your left hand side). 2. Turn Left out of door, but do not go up stairs towards the Dom. 3. Turn left at corner. 4. Walk approximately 40-50 feet. Look to your left. Alter Wartesaal! Like most/all German discos, it is below ground. There is a nice restaurant next to the disco, also called Alter Wartesaal. Yes, they are related. No, you can not buy tickets there. Regarding tickets, you can only get the tickets at the door, and only that night (23 May). I went to every ticket outlet in Cologne, and they all said the same thing. I attempted to speak to the Alter Wartesaal management, but they don't open the doors for the disco until 11 pm. That was a bit too late for me this trip. The show itself will probably be around 7 pm, based on other posters I saw for shows there. There is some good news regarding the tickets; although it is not good news for Jewel's publicity. There has not been, and will not be any advertising for Jewel's show; at least until just a couple of days before the performance. Even then, the posters et al must be put up by Jewel's group. I asked at the ticket outlets, and was told Alter Wartesaal does not do publicity. They just expect people to show up. So, unless an Atlantic/Jewel staff member, or Jewel herself, publicizes the show, it won't happen. If you are interested in places to stay..., drop me a note. I will be back in my office next Tuesday, so I can respond before you depart. Getting accomodations is not a problem in Cologne, so reservations are not needed. That's it. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:44:47 +0100 From: Myles MacRae Subject: Mean Fiddler Concert Report Jewel Concert Report - -------------------- Acoustic Room - Mean Fiddler, London 14 May 1997 Prologue To say we witnessed a new beginning would be an understatement. After weeks of waiting, it was time to leave the books and take sanctuary in the soulful voice of Jewel, LIVE! Adie Turford, Chris Groves, Matt Knudsvig and myself had arranged to meet up at 7pm outside the venue for what would be the first ever British EDA Gathering. Unfortunately, I misjudged the London transport system and also the location of the venue. Some friends and myself eventually arrived at about 7.30pm and went straight to the queue. After a few minutes, an American guy came up to us and asked whether one of us was Myles. I greeted him and he introduced himself as Matt, originally from the Detroit area but currently residing in Nottingham. The others were in the bar and after a little while they joined us in the queue. The group was complete and we exchanged stories and anecdotes until the doors were finally opened. The Acoustic Room is absolutely tiny. They say it has a capacity of 120 standing up (there were no chairs) but even then it was a crush. The thing that was immediately apparent was the lack of Brits in the room. Everywhere you listened, you could hear American voices saying how great it was to see Jewel for only £5.00. The room was darkened with red painted walls and a tiny stage. We managed to get seats on the bench next to the wall. I was at the end and was only 15 feet from the stage (Imagine, 15 feet away from Jewel for 2 hours). After an hour of sitting around and explaining the blue ribbons (Adie had managed to get some ribbon and had distributed it accordingly), a guy made is way to the stage form the back of the room through the crowd and he was introduced as the opening act. I can't remember his name but he has a single coming out on Atlantic in the next few weeks in the states. He played for about 30 minutes giving us some nice but rather formulaic songs on an old Roland keyboard. Then the count down began. 30 minutes until Jewel would appear on that stage and stun her audience. The Jewel Bit - ------------- The management had told us to stand up so that more people could get in the room. At 10pm, I got my recording Walkman started in eager anticipation of what was happening. At 10.02pm, a door just at the back of the crowd opened and people started pushing their way out. Then two short blond ladies made their entrance. At first nobody noticed them then it became obvious. It was Lenedra and Jewel. She eventually made her way to the stage, again through the crowd. A few of the Americans around me said it was amazing that she was having to do this but it didn't detract from the wonder of seeing Jewel in the flesh from only 15 feet away. After plugging in she went to the microphone and remarked, "I didn't think anyone would come," A sigh came from the audience, "We're small but we're mighty." she added. After a quick story about Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance, she started playing '1000 Miles Away'. It was a great opening piece. She followed with 'Morning Song' after saying a bit about the Johnny Cash a couple of weeks previous. 'Everything Breaks Sometime' came next after Jewel told us about her meeting with Bob Dylan. 'Ride Away' was next with no introduction. The next monologue made us aware of what she was doing. She had gone on stage with no real set list and she asked the audience whether they felt like caring tonight. Someone immediately shouted out 'Freebird' to which she gave the ominous middle finger. Then some one shouted out 'Race Car Driver'. She asked the guy where he had heard it before and he replied that he had heard it at a concert in Toronto. She was surprised at this. 'Adrian' was the next suggestion that came out but only when Little Sister was mentioned did she start playing. Next came Race Car Driver as promised earlier. When she finished that, she started playing the opening pattern to 'Enter From The East' but then stopped. She asked us whether we wanted to hear that or 'Absence of Fear'. The vote was pretty much split so she went with Absence. She immediately went into 'You Were Meant For Me' afterwards to which the crowd went wild. 'Carnivore' came next which she claimed was a new song. 'I'm Just Passing Time' was next after a false start. She actually started with the wrong words but quickly corrected herself. I'm afraid the next 20 minutes or so are just a blur. I think 'Amen' was in there somewhere. The reason is that I am doing this report from the recording I managed to make (it isn't the best quality but anyway). By now, I had to change sides on the tape. You have to understand that I was standing on a bench so everyone could see me so I had to do everything by touch underneath my jacket. I managed to get the tape out and turned over but I think it didnt go back in properly. After about 15 minutes the tape stopped and I took it out to check. Unfortunately, most of the tape was left in the machine. After a quick panic, I managed to clear the mechanism and get my backup tape in place just in time for the last half of 'I'm Sensitive'. A surprise to all of us was when Lenedra suddenly got up on stage and started talking to Jewel. Eventually, they came back to the mic and said they were going to try and sing a song together which they hadn't tried before. It was the song that Jewel had written for the Romeo & Juliet soundtrack called 'Face Of Love'. The best way to describe it is to say that they stumbled their way through it. They stopped and started and tried out a bit of harmonising. It was the first time that I had heard Lenedra sing so in that respect it was a treat. They eventually got to the end and were given generous applause for their effort. Lenedra then took centre stage for a short piece that Jewel described as a lullaby that she had sung to her as a child. It was a very pretty song with its roots definitely in native America. Jewel stepped back to the mic and went straight into 'Who Will Save Your Soul' with the same beginning that she had given throughout this tour. She commented that it was the current single over here and that it was our job to call the radio station and request it. We were to be her 'little soldiers' as she put it. After a quick story about her fathers eyebrows, she burst into 'Chime Bells'. That was her final piece and she gave her modest thanks and left the stage. The cheers however carried on and on. Only when she appeared for her encore did the noise subside. Our Matt scored a point when he handed Jewel a stuffed toy as a birthday present from the 4 Brit EDAs there. Our names were on the gift tag so she can remember us at least until she loses the toy. She then asked for suggestions before finally deciding on something herself. Jewel got the audience snapping their fingers to provide the rhythm to Cole Porter's 'Too Damn Hot'. She claimed that we would never hear the next song ever again. It was an autobiographical piece 'Nikos'. That was her final piece and she quickly disappeared through the door she entered through. Our group of EDAs decided to hang around and wait for Jewel to leave while my friends darted off to KFC. I decided to stay with the EDAs which was just as well. As we were waiting at this door, Michael Stipes (Lead singer of REM) casually walked passed and went through the door. Most of us were just amazed and could only speculate over why he was here. One of Jewels Roadies told us that she should be going out the side door directly onto the street in about 15 minutes so we made our retreat to there. After about 25 minutes we were getting anxious. My friends had already disappeared to catch the Underground so I was now committed. Adie had kindly given me some promo postcards that I was determined were going to be signed. After a further 5 minutes, we were rewarded when a crowd came out of the main door. First out were Michael Stipes and friend who quickly moved past us with only a very contained 'Hi'. Then Jewel, Lenedra and the group of record people and managers came out. Chris made the first move asking for autographs. She seemed to be happy to do it as there only about 9 of us who had waited. She was dragged off eventually by some bloke who must have been the tour manager or something. As we made our way out on to the main road, I looked back to see Jewel and her crew clambering into a couple of cars and I was left thinking when I would next see her. The general reaction from the EDA group was that we were all going to get tickets for the Union Chapel gig on the 28th. I will certainly be on the phone in the morning trying to get a few. In conclusion, The evening was a rip-roaring success. The atmosphere throughout the night was electric and every note and word Jewel uttered was pure magic. I think Jewel was having fun. If the pace of the tour was wearing her down, it certainly didnt show. She kept on commenting how pleased she was that so many people came to the concert. If only she knew that most of them were already fans from the States. However, I know that the 4 people I took along are now complete converts and I will have to auction off whatever tickets I get for her next gig. Until next time. Ps. If you are wandering about the recording I made, I have about 1hour20 of useable material. Unfortunately, I had the gain on my mic up too high for most of the songs so in places, the sound gets distorted. I will post to the list when I have got a finished product together. Myles MacRae - -- - ----------------------------------------------------- Myles MacRae - Imperial College London - ISE 1st Year mgm1@doc.ic.ac.uk - m.macrae@doc.ic.ac.uk - ----------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: JC Paris concert review In a message dated 97-05-15 14:04:47 EDT, you write: << She sang a song that she had never yet performed in public, called Last Dance Rodeo. >> This song was sooo awesome :-) She did it at the Unplugged taping :-) I really hope it makes the cut :-) Tammy :-) (who actually deleted posts without reading them today.......I've never done that....) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 12:13:07 -0700 From: Steve Subject: Concert wants/gripes/etc. Now that the Tiny Lights Tour is over I have a few opinions of it. I'm sure we've all already heard how everyone thought the concerts were wonderful and all, but I beg to differ, at least from the standpoint of a multi-concert goer. Now my first complaint, why couldn't Jewel vary her setlists a bit more? Having attended two concerts in LA, I could honestly say that both concerts were pretty much the same (setlists, stories, jokes, etc.). It's a bit disappointing to spend twice the amount of money for relatively the same concert. True, I did get to see our Angel twice, but still. I understand the need to go through the songs on Pieces of You, but couldn't the extra songs be more different, or the songs be placed in a different order? And it's not like Jewel is adhering to the original versions of all the POY songs either, so consequently, it's possible for her change the set-list a bit more. I know it's petty gripe, but spending $30 for each concert is not petty either, especially since Jewel does have a very large collection of songs she can perform. And it's not an unreasonable request since if attended many a concerts where the setlist changes drastically from city to city or night to night while incorporating all the well-known songs in an artists "portfolio" (since I can't spell "repritroi" today) Feel free to comment. I know this is probably going to get me blacklisted by a few EDAs, but I felt the need to address this. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:55:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Chaplain Dan Subject: Re: NJC: "MMMBOP" On Wed, 14 May 1997, Phenom wrote: > Has anyone heard any other songs off their > album? > > Eric the phenomenal phenom > They do have some prety good music besides that one song. That one became a hit I believe due to it being a very hip hop song. Other songs on their album do say a message and are pretty good. Look fpr their album at some of the listening stations i Blockbuster music and Tower Records and you can maybe see what I am talking about. Don't make an opinion of of one song. Look to take an example, unlikely but possible, what if WWSYS was sung constantly for around several weeks. It just never left the lineup and you were starting to get sick of it. Would you have turned away from Jewel then? This is only if you had heard that song only. What might have happened then. Look at what you are saying, learn all the facts, and then make an assumption based on both sides of the story. Every new artist that sounds great will have a song or two played a lo. You wll tend to get sick of these songs, but it doesn't matter. All that matters is that you learn from your mistakes and keep your opinions to yourself unless they are pertinent to the discussion, or are phrased in a tactful and thoughtful manner. Enough Already. Dan Perugini dperugin@medmail.mcg.edu "Get up, get back on your feet You're the one they can't beat and you know it" Styx "Fooling Yourself" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:07:09 -0400 (EDT) From: FlaPanth21@aol.com Subject: Hanson Album Regardless of how annoying the MMMBOP song is (it is kind of cool!)< I bought the album, and I think It is really good for a bunch of 11, 13, and 16 year olds! There is a really cool song called "Lucy", and another called "I will come to you"! I reccomnend it! Sebastian "I didn't mean to start a war!" =) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: Concert wants/gripes/etc. There are several reasons why maintaining your setlists and what you say over a concert series is a good idea: 1) Every concert, people get the same thing. Can you imagine the complaints from people if it was found out a performer did something different that was cool and everyone else who spent the same amount for tix later on or before didn't get that? Trust me, uniformity is a good thing ESPECIALLY if you're paying good money. Fair is fair. 2) Less to remember. You can do a good job doing what you've planned and not muck around and make mistakes. In the end it looks better. Not as fun, but the critics especially are big on consistency and overall presentation, not fun. We would rather have the fun, but not everyone shares that feeling. 3) Being consistent is important as well. This way people who buy tix always know for the most part what they're getting. Sort of 1 and 2 combined together. Remember that touring is grueling for Jewel. Sticking with fixed sets is just a smart idea, especially if you might be tired. And Steve, for someone who actually made it to 2 Jewel shows, me doth think you complain too much. ;) Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 15:47:52 -0400 (EDT) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: Re: Concert wants/gripes/etc. steve raised some really good points: > Now my first complaint, why couldn't Jewel vary her setlists a bit > more? Having attended two concerts in LA, [snip] I know it's petty > gripe, but spending $30 for each concert is not petty either, it seems to me that Jewel's setlists are more varied when she performs solo. when she is performing with a band, she has to make sure that all the musicians know the songs. so she couldn't just decide to play "studies in love #12" if the musicians don't know the piece. also, i would think that it is the exception, rather than the rule, to attend multiple shows on the same tour. most of us are on this list cos we are big fans...and we are probably also big fans of other artists. i routinely see more than one show on tour by a favorite artist or band. but somehow, i don't think the average person would do this. i think if you seek out an internet mailing list of an artist, you are definitely more than just a casual fan :) i have noticed that Jewel tells many of the same stories, word for word. and sure it bugs me...but then i realised that probably 80% of the audience has never heard these stories before, and they probably will only see her once on the tour. i have seen some artists (for example jimmy buffett, who i really like) use the same stage patter, word for word, at the same time, each night. and that is really annoying. it seems to me that most bands basically play the same show each nite. i've seen multiple shows on the same tour for the rolling stones, jimmy buffett, elton john, etc. and you see virtually the same show each night. it seems like this is the standard rule of tours that are big "productions" the only notable exceptions that i can think of are phish, and the grateful dead. it was wonderful to goto 3 dead shows in a row and hear a completely different show each night. but it sure seems that not to many other artists do this. if anyone can suggest other artists that almost never play the same song two nights in a row, i'd love to find out who they are :) > "portfolio" (since I can't spell "repritroi" today) repertoire :) > Feel free to comment. I know this is probably going to get me > blacklisted by a few EDAs, but I felt the need to address this. i sure don't understand why anyone would blacklist you :) let's see...you posted a very thoughtful opinion, and you were polite and civil. although i am sure people may disagree with your opinion, and they may challenge your opinion, there is certainly no reason to attack your character :) one thing i've noticed about this list is that occasionally when people disagree with an opinion, they will attack the character of the person making a statement, instead of challenging the statement itself. this has happened to me countless times :( i've said before that although we are EDAs, there's certainly no reason to abandon our critical wits. i think this is a wonderful forum for us to provide constructive criticism. although Jewel almost never reads this list, the general tenor ofour ideas and topics of discussion to get relayed to her. peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org if i have been unkind i hope that you can just let it go by if i have been untrue i hope you know it was never to you -- leonard cohen *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: 15 May 97 22:00:30 +0100 From: Chris Groves Subject: Re: Mean Fiddler Concert Report I'll just like to add a few words to Myles' excellent report. Well, Jewel looked absolutely beautiful tonight, in high spirits and in the peak of health. She was wearing a black vest, brown slacks with lace up flies, and that 'turquoise ring' that was mentioned earlier. One of the highlights for me was seeing Lenedra singing the lullaby. Lenedra took the mike, Jewel stepped back almost falling off the tiny stage. Then Jewel bowed her head and closed her eyes while her Mother sang. After the show we waited around for about 45 minutes outside for Jewel to appear, when she did I stepped towards her with pen and POY CD cover in hand and said 'Can I have your autograph please?', Jewel replied 'Yes, certainly'. It wasn't much of a conversation but she DID speak to ME. Wonderful... Chris. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #363 ***************************