From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #304 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, April 26 1997 Volume 02 : Number 304 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jewel in Germany [howenow@imagen.net (Adrian Duplessis)] Re: joey lauren adams [Grrly1@aol.com] joey lauren adams [piper@mclv.net] njc:cheer up!! :) If you are busy delete this! :) [jewlieb@juno.com (Jul] Rolling Stone & my comments [Burkeman ] JC:Be Happy [chandraj@juno.com (Chandra J Claycamp)] RE: Jewel Rude? [Brian Day ] RE: NOT CHEATING [Brian Day ] RE: Jewel encore on Mediadome(sm) 4/26 6pm PST [Brian Day >oh! i just got Dazed&Confused on tape (Anthony Rapp & Adam Goldberg RULE!! Parker Posey >is a goddess!!) so i'll have to check. If I remember clearly Renee was a >brunette in it though. I think she might have played the freshman's sister? no, you are confused. the freshmans sister was played by michele burke. Renee has a teeny tiny no speaking part that you will need a freeze frame to see, she is in the beer bust scene right after they yell "COPS" she is seen witha beer bong and has a red and blue striped shirt. thirza ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 20:55:48 -0500 From: piper@mclv.net Subject: joey lauren adams TH>no, you are confused. the freshmans sister was played by michele burke. ReneeTH>has a teeny tiny no speaking part that you will need a freeze frame to see, TH>she is in the beer bust scene right after they yell "COPS" she is seen witha TH> beer bong and has a red and blue striped shirt. TH> TH>thirza *****ME: Renee's also in Reality Bites in another freeze frame scene. Near the beginning when Ethan Hawke is coming out of the girls apartment in the morning and he drops her phone number on the lawn, well the girl who is in the scene for ten seconds is Renee... I only saw that movie way way after I saw Jerry Maguire, and happened to catch her name in the credits... welp, we had to go rewind and try and find her being the obsessive geeks that we are... hehehe... - --Lisa "OH MY GOD! I just killed my girlfriend with a Tie Fighter!" --My Boyfriend "Your hands manifest thought." --Jewel "Jump into my nightmare, the water's warm." --Jerry Maguire "You complete me." --Jerry Maguire . . . Multi-Comm Las Vegas Nv. 208.129.48.2 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:05:05 EDT From: jewlieb@juno.com (Julie Bristol) Subject: njc:cheer up!! :) If you are busy delete this! :) Hi! I don't post very often (yes I posted yesterday, but that had relavance to Jewel ;), but I think that more than a few people are really stressed out, so emotions are at their peak. I know for at least a few people finals are here, or are coming up so they are stressed about those, but I think its really important to think before you post. We must remember that when we are posting, we are posting to over 1000 people. So when you go off in a rage, those 1000 people are going to be at the butt end of your flame, whether they have done anything offensive or not. It bothers me that I have to read flames that are irrelevant, and in the end will do nothing to change someone's view. If on the other hand you let it alone, or simply reply in a calm tone, the person may actually listen to what you have to say, and there won't be a flame in response to your letter. Some people don't learn, so sometimes its just best to be forgotten. I personally like the concept of being an eda, but I also know that when people joined this list, they thought they were joining a Jewel discussion group, and what they've found is people who act more like a family, and tend to post more njc, than jc. I personally like it this way, but I could understand how that could be frustrating for people who just want to discuss Jewel, and only Jewel. I like it the way it is now, and I wouldn't want it to change for an instant, but I can understand the other side of the arguement. I love hearing about silly things like the fact that grape nuts tastes like dog food (I've tasted both, and I'd have to say dog food tastes better ;). Yea, sometimes I'm busy and I just want to get to the relavant stuff or read posts from people I know, but that's my progative (anyone remember Bobby Brown?!? teehee :). I love the family we have going, and I know every family family fights, but I just really want this one to end!! I think everyone who is angry, stressed, or feels the need to post a flame, should take a deep breath, and try to think of a happy place (Yoga anyone?)! Come on you positive people start the positive posts going!! I hope EVERYONE has a TERRIFIC weekend!!! I know I will I'm going to the beach with my bestfriend!! Yea!! I hope when I get back there are more positive things going around!! Please, for the sake of the newbies who don't know that we love each other, get happy!! Ok, I'll stop taking up space!! Have a great day and weekend, and I'll talk to you later!!! Julie :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:12:50 -0400 From: Burkeman Subject: Rolling Stone & my comments or: "Burning dog poo & the human response" Before I begin, I must say a few things. First, I am a journalist, and will approach things from this angle, hence the opposite direction of the reader, so if you disagree with what I say, you're entitled to that. Please correct my mistakes and otherwise debate with me over the points I bring up in this post reflecting my feelings after having read the Rolling Stone article. 1. Pictures: page 38 lends new rumors to the Renee Z. connection. 2. ": p. 39 "Where have I seen these before" pics taken straight from the tour book. 3. To the article itself: It is somewhat apparent the reporter did not do a great deal of research prior to writing the article. The realization of this occurred early in the article and therefore set a negative mood for the article. I tried to ignore this as we continue to number... 4. We need feedback from someone who was at the Denver show. Did she "snap" as the reporter says, in response to someone yelling "AC/DC!" at the show, screaming "F*ck you!" as the article would have us believe? 5. It refers to Chime Bells as a waltz... I'm not a music major (oh shoot, I *AM* a music major) but I believe Chime Bells is in 2/2 time. 6. We (EDAs) are referred to as polite by Jewel, (however) 7. Larry G.'s great posters (and the "maintaining our innocence" quote) are referred to as "Cheesy as sh*t" by Jewel. 8. It paints the picture that she disliked her father AND CONTINUES TO DISLIKE HIM (false, as Lenedra has mentioned.) 9. The bomb drop, at least for me: On the record, Jewel's relationship w/ Mr. Penn has always been 'as friends' and we have always accepted that. Multiple times in the article he's referred to as her ex-boyfriend... even mentioning a 'breakup' I won't say any more, except that none of this information (except for the fact she wishes him well) came Jewel herself in a direct quote and hence once again is far from canon. 10. The seriously stupid comment about Lenedra, if indeed still in the article, refers to her FBI investigation, which is phrased in the article to indicate doubt on the reporter's part of Jewel's explanation. 11. The writer, as you can tell, incorporated a great deal of personal opinion to the article. 12. The reporter is somewhat critical of Jewel's lyrics. We can debate this until the cows (horses?) come home. 13. It makes it sound like the the YWMFM video was made because of her "breakup" with Mr. Penn and so the new one could feature Steve, never mentioning the fact that the videos are for TWO DIFFERENT SONGS. (well okay they're the same song but you get the idea.) Okay, sorry to disappoint you all, I know I didn't add much. Essentially the article was kind of like, 'okay' (tuck hair behind ears.) If someone read this article and then bought POY, they would be amazed by I'm Sensitive because many moments make you think Jewel is a foulmouthed toughie. Only the worst in critical journalism (if ya wanna call it that) analysis, - -tim 'burkeman' ______ ____ ____ / ____/ / __ \ / | 0000,8080,8080Tim Burke / __/ / / / / / /| | 0000,0000,8080tburke@mail.heidelberg.edu / /___ / /_/ / / ___ | /_____/ /_____/ /_/ |_| 8080,8080,0000"I am a worm." -Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:14:05 EDT From: chandraj@juno.com (Chandra J Claycamp) Subject: JC:Be Happy SAVE THIS MESSAGE FOR LATER!!!! S I can"t help but notice are alot of messages about peole who are depressed or feeling bummed we are here for you(i am speaking for myself for certain but i think many people agree)...to anyone out there who is feeling bummeb, BUCK UP, life can always get better....as slow as it may..i remember when everytime i heard "Foolish Games" i would burst into tears over this one guy....i had liked him for months and he repeatedly dissed on me!!! Regardless, when i least expected things started coming up absolutely roses.... i am now involved with someone else who is about 20 times better than they guy i had a crush now. I am willing to listen to anyone who ever needs to vent (i know cause i do it a whole lot!!!) feel free to e-mail me at : ChandraJ@juno.com AS you can see it's pretty late and i have no one specific to respond too,so i'll have the time!!! Seriuosly, in addition to posting that your feeling crummy send me mail too, i'm no physcology major (or minor for that matter) but who really cares? "ANd i was shocked To see the mistakes of each generation will just fade like a radio station If you drive...out of range" (I know its ani but it fits the message)!!! Chandra J once again ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:34:22 -0400 From: Brian Day Subject: RE: Jewel Rude? - ---------- From: Terrence R. Williams[SMTP:thespis@thespis.com] Sent: Friday, April 25, 1997 7:09 PM To: Jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re: Jewel Rude? >Well, she's given the finger to several people requesting "Freebird" and >she's told Howard Stern to "F*ck Off", but, then again, I'm not saying >those people didn't deserve what they got, considering their inconsideraton >(is that confusing yet?) HEY!! No steppin' on Howard, it wasn't him, it was George Stephanopolous that she said that too. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:36:16 -0400 From: Brian Day Subject: RE: NOT CHEATING >Actually, it's not. Does it say anywhere on there to only vote once? = I >didn't think so. I don't care if it is or isn't, the HTML code for the page does NOT = record E-mail addresses, so go ahead and vote multiple times.... They'll = count. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 00:39:30 -0400 From: Brian Day Subject: RE: Jewel encore on Mediadome(sm) 4/26 6pm PST Coming Saturday, April 26 6pm PST: Jewel: The Encore Concert The responses to our Jewel Webisode and live concert were so overwhelming that Mediadome wanted to give you something in return. Coming this Saturday, April 26 6pm PST the encore of the Jewel La Jolla concert Webcast. HELP!!!! Would some one be willing to save the .RA file for me, I have = to work, and I loved the half of the concert I caught the first time, I = NEED to see/hear it again.... Please, please, please!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 23:43:34 -0500 From: "Enigmatic Paradox" Subject: Re: positive connotations/definitions of cult as well as negative -- the mistake is in generalizing > Dave posted about his girlfriend thinking EDAs are a cult hey I don't know how all this got started but... (everyone who knows me from my previous time on this list groans, "OH NO!! She's still obsessing about her ex-boyfriend (I'm not. Really. I swear!) ...My ex-boyfriend, AKA, CJ's Archangel, used to call us a cult, and make fun of us and send mean Emails to the list. Me, his girlfriend, and Michael Bruce, his best friend, were both on it, and he was so mean to us!!!!! He thought we were a satanic covenant who worshiped Jewel. He told the list to read the Bible every day... anyway this post doesn't have anything to do with anything actually, but I just had to make it known to you that, yes, I am still obsessing. Kind of. Not really. Actually, I"m pretty much over it (bullshit) no, I am. Am I making sense? Sorry toujours CJ I'm sorry that Jesus died for my sins, and I swear to God it won't happen again --Jewel "Sometimes it be that way" Scwenchville: http://www.bmtc.net/~lehmann/cj.html lehmann@bmtc.net * peachfuzz27@hotmail.com * gloriana13@hotmail.com peace * love * lythe ...on the advice of my attorney this sig file has no comment at this time... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 01:03:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Grrly1@aol.com Subject: Rolling stone I havent seen the rolling stone Magzine yet, but i HAVE seen the rolling stone AOL version, i believe it is just a preview interview but it was much worse than i expected, to tell you the truth i didnt expect it to be bad at all... heres a transcript. i am offended by the way she speaks of the EDA posters.... Cosmic Girl by Jancee Dunn She was raised by Alaskan homesteaders. She started singing in bars with her dad at the age of 6. She lived out of a van in San Diego as a teenager. Now, at 22, she has meandered her way to the top of the charts. Has Jewel found what she was looking for? "I remember when I first met Jewel," recalls Lee Greene, a friend from Jewel's hometown of Homer, Alaska. "I saw her hitchhiking one day, which is common here in Homer -- you'll see young kids hitchhiking. But I didn't come from hitchhiking people, so to me it was really strange. I thought, 'Oh, my God, this beautiful young girl! Somebody's going to pick her up and . . . steal her.' I mean, she was 15." Concerned, Greene pulled over and offered her a lift. "I said, 'What are you doing hitchhiking on the side of the road looking like that?' And she pulled a knife out of her boot and said, 'Would you f--- with me?'" This is but one chapter from the strange adventure that is Jewel Kilcher's life story. (It is also a scene from "Showgirls." But we digress.) Greene sums it up the best. "Oh, Jewel knows how to take care of herself," he says with a laugh. "She always has." This song is kinda dumb," Jewel says sweetly, "but they can't all be good." She is onstage at the Palace Events Center, in Denver, where she is about to launch into "Do You Wanna Catch a Cold With Me," a playful little ditty she wrote a few years back. Jewel smiles shyly and tucks a lock of hair behind her ears. This was a teenage knife wielder? "AC/DC!" someone in the audience hollers. "F--- you!" she snaps. Aha. Jewel has been entertaining folks since she was 6, and she is a pro, delivering a two hour-plus bonanza that's packed with jokes, stories, five new songs, an a cappella version of Cole Porter's "Too Darn Hot" and a lovely Swedish lullaby. Of course, she also includes her Top 10 hits, "You Were Meant for Me" and "Who Will Save Your Soul," which propelled her debut album, "Pieces of You," to triple platinum and counting. The record only hints at the power of Jewel's voice, a mighty, crystalline wonder. Each time it soars, the crowd goes apes---; the majority are teenage girls, who scream and scream. There are a fair amount of males, too. "She is so hot," moans a young dude a few rows back. "Shut up," says his date. Jewel unveils a new tune. "I never thought I'd be at a place with so many people," she says and talks for a few minutes about following your life's passion. "Our flesh becomes wasted on survival, instead of creating cures ... and poems." "Whoooo!" yells the crowd. Jewel closes with a rollicking number, the yodeling cowboy waltz "Chime Bells," and the audience stands as one. Then she heads backstage for a quick meet and greet. "Hi, sweetie, what's your name?" she coos to a 6-year-old girl, who stares mutely at Jewel's shiny blue shirt. Outside the venue, about 20 die-hard fans are gathered. They silently line up in an orderly row, as if awaiting a school eye exam. "My fans are very polite," Jewel says, embellishing the last autograph with a little heart shape. "People come to my shows with signs that say, 'Maintaining Our Innocence.' Cheesy as s---, but hallelujah! Look, I'm not a fluffy, New Age ... kookybaka. [Perhaps this is an Alaskan word?] I'm just a person who is honestly living my life and asking, 'How do you be spiritual and live in the world without going to a monastery?'" She walks to the car -- a beat-up Accord, parked behind the venue, that the lighting tech will drive. "I just want to tell kids, 'Come on, man, get excited!' " she continues. "There have always been wars and pollution and poverty, but we're at the most unique time in the history of humanity to do something about it. We're worrying less about survival, and more and more about what is our spirit. Every kid is asking me about that right now." She gets in the Accord. Now what? "Well, I don't drink," she says. "I have problems with my kidneys, and it's never interested me, anyway. I mean, after a show, I usually go back to the hotel and get in my pajamas." Jewel peeps around the hotel door. "Are you wearing pajamas?" she asks me. "Good. Come on in." Although she has occupied the room for mere hours, it looks like she's lived here for weeks. There's debris everywhere: tapes, clogs, teary notes from fans, jars of vitamins. She has changed from her black pants and shiny shirt to a pair of red plaid pj's, and she pads around the room barefoot, singing, "It's delightful, it's delicious." She has no makeup on, no jewelry, no styling products. In videos and what have you, Jewel is cute, but up close, she is a luminous beauty: sloping cheekbones, clear green eyes, glowing skin, crooked teeth, crooked nose. She turns off the lights, fires up a candle, grabs her guitar and plops down on a chair. Strumming away at our makeshift slumber party, she begins to tell the story of her 22 years. (For the complete story, check out RS 760, on newsstands April 29.) ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #304 ***************************