From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #182 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, March 13 1997 Volume 02 : Number 182 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Non Anything Related, the MSN sucks! ["CASEY HANSEN" ] Re: Wica [John F Chance ] Re: NADC - What do I do with Maxell points? [" Claypool (EDA)" ] NJC: Wicca (was: Re: Wica) [Jeffrey Miller ] NJC: Poetry book info [Burkeman ] NJC: cleveland show corrections [Burkeman ] JC: Glimmering Facets of Jewel -WASHINGTON POST REVIEW [BOB ] Re: NJC: ethical question bout doggie [Crunch ] Re: Sort of Jewel Content -Respect!! [harvenger@juno.com (Daniel J. Bogac] Re: SJC: Re: WICA [Ashe Mayfair ] NJC: late night musical guests (not much goin' on) [Chopped Liver ] NJC: Dar Williams ["Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng ] Re: SJC: Re: WICA [James McGarry ] Re: EDA playing cards [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Re: WICA [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Re: NADC - What do I do with Maxell points? [BDamis@aol.com] NJC: Re: NADC - What do I do with Maxell points? [the emperor of smurfs ] Re: Washington Post review of show at 9:30 club [anand.gajjala@adn.alcate] To all going to concerts - favor!? [Sarah Chipps ] Jewel News Story [Allan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 13:17:18 UT From: "CASEY HANSEN" Subject: Non Anything Related, the MSN sucks! Hello to all, I spent the entire day yesterday without e-mail because of the damn Microsoft people, so If anybody sent me anything important please don't think I didn't get it. If it important, please send it again! Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: Q&A for Cards (READ ME) OK, I have a suggestion - big surprise ;-) - why don't we just have that EDA quote, "Everyday brings the chance to be an Angel. The only reason we need is because we can". (I know, this may not be the exact original wording, but it works.....). Then it's an EDA thing and we avoid the copyright problems. Tammy :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC overproduced album (response) - Sarah In a message dated 97-03-13 02:33:23 EST, you write: << look at the jump sarah mclachlan made from Solace to Fumbling Towards Ecstasy and how people gobbled up FTE) >> Yeah, we got FTE first, and then I bought The Freedom Sessions - the versions on here were so much better (IMHO). If any of you were going to buy one of her cd's, I recommend TFS over FTE..... Tammy :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:28:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel M. Drucker" Subject: Re: Kinda JC: the chat on AOL > Someone in my row got theirs answered. "Will their ever be a Jewel/Beck > concert?" The response was original. Wasn't taken from any FAQ, anyway. > "I'd love to. Do you know anything I don't?" > It's hardly proof, but it's a clue. Yeah, that looks pretty authentic. As someone mentioned, her proximity to AOL HQ makes it very likely. [ Daniel M. Drucker / dmd@3e.org ] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 10:38:02 EST From: anand.gajjala@adn.alcatel.com (Anand Gajjala) Subject: Washington Post review of show at 9:30 club A review of Jewel's show appears in today's Washinton Post. Here is the URL http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-serv/WPlate/1997-03/13/141L-031397-idx.html I'd put the text here, but it is copyrighted. Anand ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:30:00 -0500 From: John F Chance Subject: Re: NJC: ethical question bout doggie Laura Capello wrote: > so my question is if the doggie comes back, do i call the owner, keep > him, or (to me the worst idea) call the local pound/shelter. i'd love > anohter doggie, and i dont wanna send him back home to possible abuse > household. but yet, that's *their* dog, thier pet. > > so what would you do? > > capello Okay, here is what you do if the dog comes back. First see if you can approach him (be cautious when doing so). If the dog will not let you near him call the S.P.C.A. or Humane Society, they will come pick him up. Either way you can get the dog to one of these organizations so there vets can check him out (they usually do it for free). This checkup will answer several important questions. One question is whether or not this dog is actually abused. You said that its tag is three years old so there is no telling how long it has been on its own. Secondly it will let you know if the dog is sick (possibly terminal). (Another question should go here but I have forgotten it). If it turns out that the dog was abused and is not sick, and you want this dog just tell them and you can have it. Now if you don't want it, but don't want to leave it with them, take it for a while and look for someplace that doesn't destroy animals(Since this is what most people do not like about shelters). As far as the SPCA and Humane society go, by me they no longer destroy animals so check where you are. There is also an organization called Friends of Strays, I don't know how national they are but they are highly recomended. Now if turns out it was not abused you should give it back. Please, do not send the poor dog to a county or city pound. Leave it on the streets before sending it there. John F Chance ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:43:17 -0500 From: John F Chance Subject: Re: WICA BORKMAN437@aol.com wrote: > > Well, if she practiced Wicca, her poems and music, wouldn't have so much god > content. > > Billionaire Actually I know a few people who practice Wicca and worship god, they consider it an "Umbrella Religion". John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:42:11 -0500 From: John F Chance Subject: Re: Wica Adam Johnson wrote: > First off, you spelled it wrong. It is Wicca, not Wica. Second, you > don't 'do' Wicca. Wicca is a religion, just as Christianity is a > religion. Wicca is an earth-based pagan religion, which does practice > witchcraft, or Magick. > Love is magical. > > -Adam > > "We are Everyday Angels" Actually Wicca is not classified as a religion but as a cult. It lacks the social structure across the board to be considered as a religion. Christianity itself is not a religion, Catholicism is and Protestinism is, but not christianity. It is definitly nature oriented, but don't get caught up in the Magick and Witchcraft, it is usually just some chanting, and is nothing like Voodoo. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 07:54:27 -0800 (PST) From: " Claypool (EDA)" Subject: Re: NADC - What do I do with Maxell points? you wrote >>Evening all, >> I got like over 200 in max points, so what can I do with them?? > >maxell isn't doing the max points thing anymore so they have no value now. >sorry to dissapoint you. > > > >plus > No, but the TDK tape company which (in my opinion are better) then the Maxwell will exchange your points. I'm sorry i forget the TDK page, you should search for it. You must exchange something like 150 pts. for equivalent tape to the Maxwell XLII 90. Which is a better deal then what Maxwell used to offer. Unfortunaty for residants outside the US cannot take part :( I have over 1000 points and cannot send any in :( So if you live in the States, send away! Hope this helps Scott "There's no such thing as a failure who keeps trying", J. Popper "i want to feel my feet leave the ground", T. Anastasio "do you hate her / 'Cause she's pieces of you?", J. Kilcher - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 10:59:49 EST From: Burkeman Subject: NJC: Cleveland show review (long) Okay, wow. I just got my 4 hours of sleep and now have to type this. Whatever, here goes... (to get to the interesting stuff, skip down to the INTERESTING STUFF heading.) After a 45 minute drive to pick up Liz, we left at around 3:30 from Toledo. Directions provided by David were excellent, and we rolled into Lakewood nice and early. - -then- we spent hours searching for this place called Angelo's Pizza where all the EDAs were supposedly meeting. After fruitless research and discouragement, I tell you we walked down every street and alley in Lakewood folks, we finally arrived to find it's not a restaurant, just a delivery place. ?! Then, couldn't even find ourselves a place to eat supper. sooo we hung outside the door for awhile with Mia and Misty, and Liz got combobulated with all the stuff she was bringing in, convinced me to bring my EDA poster in, and come 6:30 we found our seats. Liz and I seeked out Bibi and talked to her for a bit: no, Lenedra was not there, she flew back to San Diego. Oh well, let's get to the interesting parts. INTERESTING STUFF: The Rugburns came out around 7:30, and played the following songs (this is how I wrote them on my notes, you might have to interpret my shorthand..) Closer Lockjaw Gold's Gym Crazy crazy world (hadn't heard this song since LizStock!) Good morning 40 (birthday) - -here I think he called these girls on stage and sang an improv about them. I think Liz was glowing green at these girls who apparently didn't appreciate the honor. ABC song (Steve accidentally left out the stanze 'Sometimes you miss your Q, and you don't know where you R...' I have no idea if on purpose to be ironic but my guess is he screwed the song up *duck*) Impala TreeHug (John was running on and off stage whenever the harmony vocals came in on the chorus /cute) Hitchhike (I was hoping to get to hear this song, the three of them bouncing around stage and whatnot..) A nice, 40 minute or so set. then Jewel came out in the green shiny top and black slacks for those who care. Setlist: NYA Morning Song Little Sister Enter from the East (great song) Cold Song (the crowd really liked this one) Racecar Driver Don't (amazing... mesmerizing song) Boy Needs A Bike Foolish Games - -rugburns come on- YWMFM Adrian Run Tonto Run New Song (she wrote yesterday, we're calling it the Down song) Deep Water Emily (somebody requested this, Jewel asks, 'How do you know Emily?' the guy says 'from PBS' and Jewel goes into this long spiel on Charlie Rose being old or something.) Fragile Flame I thought I saw you last night Old Lover's House New Song #2 I'm Sensitive Angel Standing By Chime Bells - -- WWSYS Amen A very well behaved crowd, if uninformed (calls for Silent Warrior and Ugly Girl,) but this was a high school auditorium and anything said by anybody could be heard by anybody else. So there were, um, conversations going on (strangely all ending in 'SHUT UP!!!') but this is, of course far from the end of the story... We waited in the lobby for the Rugburns to come out, said goodbye to David & wife, and finally Steve comes out and Liz freezed, her eyes glaze over. I tell you, their first meeting was soap opera material. Liz gave Steve her hat and Gold's Gym sweatshirt and had a long discussion on what kind of socks he wanted her to get for him... very cute :) John came out and Liz introduced herself, only to say, 'Hi John, oh yeah Steve one more thing...' While I, standing by with my EDA poster and preparing to meet Steve.... Dan Stark had arrived during the Rugburns set and now was out creating mischief as the Radio Producer he is. He took it into his hands and led us back into the auditorium quickly, I felt bad about abandoning Steve but hey, I'll see him again. Dan led the four of us backstage where he met up with a manager type person, who asked how many of us there were. Basically, we find ourselves in the after-show meeting area for radio people, at least that's the idea I got. Jewel will be coming shortly, they say. Now Liz had brought in her JewelStock tapes, I had no idea why. It turns out now she was going to be able to get the cards autographed. Premonition or something, we owe Dan our life for being such a prominent industry person. He actually planned to have Jewel do a quick promo for the radio special on the River Friday night, but was denied at the last moment by the manager guy. In any case, after an eternally long wait, Jewel walks in in a navy sweatshirt and black slacks that Liz says didn't match. She signed stuff and took pictures for the radio people, didn't seem that excited until she saw us, she seemed to perk up. I introduced myself and Jewel signed my poster 'tim, (heart) Jewel', and she commented on how neat the poster was and where did we get them and I said 'Larry Greenfield from L.A. made them, aren't they great' and she says 'they really are.' and then when Liz handed her Jewelstock J-card to Jewel she turns around and says, "Hey everybody, this is the Woodstock bootleg tape." She was really excited to show it to everybody. Liz says 'thank you for the greatest moment in my entire life' (or something like that) and Jewel says, 'Oh you were there?' In a matter of moments she was leaving. I honestly believe she really enjoyed seeing us back there, amidst all the hoopla. then a Jewel promo type guy says we can have anything off the walls we want, so we get the pieces of you promo posters and the new flats with the picture now known as the 'hits' picture on it. So the five of us decide to go eat. This is once again out of control, as we are led under bridges and all over Cleveland and whatnot and cannot find any places open. We decided Dennis Harris had gotten there and convinced all these restaurants to close or something. We find ourselves way on the east side at a diner that has a poster from an event that hasn't happened yet (or at least I never heard of.) : DENNISSTOCK!!! I swear to God it was a big poster of a saxophone and it said dennisstock at the bottom of it. We ate a hardy meal and owed even more than our lives now because Dan picked up the check. I tell you, a great guy. We parted in the parking lot and left. After getting lost in downtown Cleveland, we finally got back to the interstate, Liz got home around 4:15 and I got home around 5:15. I should give some prize to anyone who read down this far. WHAT A NIGHT! (and waiting for Saturday's show,) - -tim 'burkeman' - --------------------------------------------------- Tim Burke tburke@mail.heidelberg.edu _______ ___ ___ | | | > "I move across the | | |--\ earth in my new | \_/ |__/ pattern shirt... I pass satellites" - --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:20:50 -0800 From: Jeffrey Miller Subject: NJC: Wicca (was: Re: Wica) Sorry for the public posting, but there are some errors in this quoted post I had to speak out on. Someone wrote: > > Actually Wicca is not classified as a religion but as a cult. It lacks > the social structure across the board to be considered as a religion. > Christianity itself is not a religion, Catholicism is and Protestinism > is, but not christianity. It is definitly nature oriented, but don't > get caught up in the Magick and Witchcraft, it is usually just some > chanting, and is nothing like Voodoo. Not true - Wicca is recognized by many governments around the world as a full-fledged religion - by the United States, Canada, the UK, many European, etc.. Military personnel have the option of having 'Wiccan' inscribed upon their dogtags. Wiccans are allowed to take the sabbats off as relious holidays (when offered by a school/employer) Wicca is fully protected by the Right of Free-Worship. What social structure does it lack as a religion? What makes it a cult? Christianity _is_ a religion - technically, Catholocism and Protestantism are sects, along with Lutheranism, Gnostics, Baptists, Mormons, ... Wicca is nature-oriented - but so much that it honors, respects, and acknowledges the firmament. Nothing like Voodoo? I should hope so! Voodoo is a blend of west-african shaman religions, native-american practices, and christianity, and has little in common with wicca. - -Jeffrey- PS - as for Magick being alot of chanting.. it is only as much as is the latin mass, the lord's prayer, and every other ritual of any spiritual or religious following. - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 11:22:03 EST From: Burkeman Subject: NJC: Poetry book info I know a lot of people have asked about the poetry book, here's a description: $10, worth that just for the pictures. I kid you not, Jewel was a child of the 80s and her hairstyles show it! there are a lot of great pictures and piles of poetry, book laid out by bibi, get it while still available! it has the tiny lights tourdates on the back. - -tim 'burkeman' - --------------------------------------------------- Tim Burke tburke@mail.heidelberg.edu _______ ___ ___ | | | > "I move across the | | |--\ earth in my new | \_/ |__/ pattern shirt... I pass satellites" - --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 11:22:06 EST From: Burkeman Subject: NJC: cleveland show corrections Forgive me, after reading my review there are some -errors. She was wearing a grey shirt, not a green one. She played nicotine love after old lover's house, then the new song. I'm not fatigued or anything. - -tim 'burkeman' - --------------------------------------------------- Tim Burke tburke@mail.heidelberg.edu _______ ___ ___ | | | > "I move across the | | |--\ earth in my new | \_/ |__/ pattern shirt... I pass satellites" - --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 08:31:34 -0800 From: BOB Subject: JC: Glimmering Facets of Jewel -WASHINGTON POST REVIEW This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------77B62C1789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1997-03/13/141L-031397-idx.html - --------------77B62C1789 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="141L-031397-idx.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="141L-031397-idx.html" Content-Base: "http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/W Plate/1997-03/13/141L-031397-idx.ht ml" The Glimmering Facets of Jewel

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The Glimmering Facets of Jewel

By Rob Pegoraro

Thursday, March 13 1997; Page B07
The Washington Post

At her show Monday at the 9:30 club, Jewel acted a little like that Phoebe character from "Friends," all chirpy and bubbly between songs and sounding still astonished at being able to play her music for money. The vocal talent she displayed, however, was nothing to joke about.

Jewel's voice is an amazingly agile instrument, swooping from earthy moans to girlish whispers in a single verse. But her mostly solo performance hardly ever degenerated into a simple demonstration of technical prowess, with the lone exception of her by-now traditional exercise in rapid-fire yodeling (it sounds like a CD player skipping badly); the hypnotic, haunting rendition of "Angel Standing By" was more typical. She also intriguingly reworked several songs with the help of the opening act, the Rugburns, who returned onstage to provide some rhythmic heft otherwise lacking in much of Jewel's music. The spare acoustic bass and hand drum backing they gave to "Who Will Save Your Soul" made a thoroughly overplayed song compelling again.

Most of her material is quite serious and even a little overwrought, but that perky onstage manner and her own self-deprecating remarks ("I'm such a dork") kept the mood up. The Rugburns helped again by starting things off with their own set of such gleefully sarcastic folk-pop as the hilarious "Why're You Going Out With That Gold's Gym Guy?"

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- --------------77B62C1789-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:46:34 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: Wica On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, John F Chance wrote: > Actually Wicca is not classified as a religion but as a cult. It lacks I think you are mistaking Wicca for Paganism or wicca for Wicca. Various Traditions would qualify under your criteria as "religions" qua religions, I doubt most people would be as 'precise' in their definition of "religion". Wicca and most pagan "religions" are not cults in the behavioural sense of the word. "Cult" can also mean any religious system that deviates from certain established principles in orthodox or historical Christianity. By _this_ definition (the secular definition) all non-Christian religions are by default 'cults', though most people know the word 'cult' in its behavioural sense. The word 'cult' is from the Latin 'cultis' denoting "worship, ritual, and emotion" using the secular definition in a broad sense, all religions are 'cults'. For more information on cults, check out: http://www.ex-cult.org:80/ Ceremonial magic (or magick if you prefer) in not simply "some chanting" in much the same way a Catholic Mass is simply not "some chanting." Most Wiccan rituals are religious ceremonies noting or demarking portions of the yearly cycle. Both Voodoo (or Voudon) and Wicca use ceremonial magic, but not in the same way, both have multiple forms of God/Godess, which in Wicca are sometimes refered to as aspects and in Voodoo usually as Moa. But you are right Wicca and Voodoo are not very similar. Sorry for being so pedantic about this but there are enough misundertandings about Wicca as it is... James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:09:36 -0500 From: Crunch Subject: Re: NJC: ethical question bout doggie =( Contact the Humane Society. Thay can and will give you legal and ethical advice. There is a local chapter near everyone! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:33:41 EST From: harvenger@juno.com (Daniel J. Bogacz) Subject: Re: Sort of Jewel Content -Respect!! Gabriel, I totally agree with you!!!! Jewel is not fragile and she can take care of herself that is obvious. I just thought if someone respected her enough to go see her perform, then why would someone want to disrespect her by making a comment like that? In my opinion there is no need for that! Jewel will survive no matter what people say, think, or do!! Take Care, Dan Bogacz ( GAZ-man ) " Do you know that reality is immaterial! "- Dream Theater " Sometimes living is the hardest part of life!/ You keep on pushing me and I keep coming right on back! "- The Sleeping GIANTS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 11:38:44 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: SJC: Re: WICA At 08:59 13/03/97 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 13 Mar 1997 BORKMAN437@aol.com wrote: >> Well, if she practiced Wicca, her poems and music, wouldn't have so much god >> content. > >Not really true. Depends on what Wiccan Tradition, but in many these days, >the God and Goddess are pretty balanced. What she probably wouldn't >reference so much would be angels. Well, that all depends on what you'r idea of an angel is. See, there is the standerd angel (the messanger and servent of god I guess), but angels can be in any religion.. from a certin point of view. Just because angels are considerd religious symbols by most dose not mean that they are seen that way by all. Really angels could been seen (as I offten think of them) just as mythical beings. Just like the vampire it a myth (not that I'm compairing the two tho :]). So even if you don't belive in God it is still possiable to belive in angels. - -Ashe Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:42:15 -0700 (MST) From: Chopped Liver Subject: NJC: late night musical guests (not much goin' on) Dave's Guests Thursday, March 13 singer Trisha Yearwood, singer Madonna (Repeat) Friday, March 14 musicians Brooks and Dunn (Repeat) Monday, March 17 music group The Chieftans Tuesday, March 18 traditional Japanese drum group KODO Wednesday, March 19 singer Chris Whitley Thursday, March 20 music group Toad the Wet Sprocket (Repeat) Friday, March 21 singer D'Angelo (Repeat) Monday, March 24 music group Candlebox (Repeat) Tonight Show With Jay Leno Thursday, March 13 Collective Soul Tuesday, March 18 Johnny Cash Late Night with Conan O'Brien Thursday, March 13: Musical guest Freddy Johnston Monday, March 24: Musical guest Robert Palmer Saturday Night Live Saturday, March 22: Musical Guest: Veruca Salt Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:39:27 -0500 From: John F Chance Subject: NJC:Wicca Ok, I am not withdrawing my statement about wicca being a cult, but there were some point's I would like to argue/defend. James McGarry > I doubt most people would be as 'precise' in their definition of > "religion". Wicca and most pagan "religions" are not cults in the > behavioural sense of the word. This is true about behavioural definitions, However a cult is classified as so due to a lack of organization. Wicca lacks this organiziation. When I use the word cult I use it without modern day negative connations. > I think you are mistaking Wicca for Paganism or wicca for Wicca. I'm not confusing anything, neither neo-paganism or wicca classify for anything other than cult. Jeffery Miller > Not true - Wicca is recognized by many governments around the world as a > full-fledged religion - by the United States, Canada, the UK, many > European, etc.. Governments can recognize anything they want, but that doesn't mean it is as they say. > Christianity _is_ a religion - technically, Catholocism and > Protestantism are sects, along with Lutheranism, Gnostics, Baptists, > Mormons, ... You right on this one, except they are denominations not sects. > PS - as for Magick being alot of chanting.. it is only as much as is the > latin mass, the lord's prayer, and every other ritual of any spiritual > or religious following. thios is true, I never meant to say anything was wrong with this. David Greene > Man, oh, man. Are you going to get flamed! This is nothing at all, I have had people get out of chairs during debates, I always seem to stir things up. When I said cult I meant only with a slight variance with Max Weber's definition. I didn't mean it was wrong or evil or anything else. If you misunderstood my meaning of the word cult I apologize (I have been sitting in far to many religion classes lately to even consider a misinterpretation of the word cult). If anyone else has something to say you might want to e-mail me personally. John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:46:16 -0600 (CST) From: "Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng beaver." Subject: NJC: Dar Williams In the tradition of introducing others to new artists, I offer Dar Williams. She's a great folk singer/songwriter, and has some really catchy tunes. I don't know too much about her, but I've listened to one of her CDs, Mortal City, from the Public Library, and I love it to death. Also, she's yet another great folkie with ties to Iowa, like Greg Brown. Her voice is great, it sounds like mix of Alanis (when she's not screaming) and Sarah MacLachlan. Check her out. She's got a webpage somewhere. tim gavin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:47:47 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: SJC: Re: WICA On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Ashe Mayfair wrote: > seen that way by all. Really angels could been seen (as I offten think of > them) just as mythical beings. Just like the vampire it a myth (not that > I'm compairing the two tho :]). So even if you don't belive in God it is > still possiable to belive in angels. When you put it that way, I could agree :-) Some pagans even see the four archangels as the Quarters (directions; NSEW). James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:35:32 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: EDA playing cards On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Kellyann D. Magee wrote: > Hi EDA's > I know about the whole copyright thing, which kind of sucks, but we can > find other things to put on them, like the Everyday Angels Image that is > on the internet.(i'm sorry, I can't remember who belongs to it, but he/she > is an EDA) The one i'm talking about is the one that says Everyday Angels > on the bottom and is a picture of an Angel's wing. Just a thought. :o) Must be me. ^_^; The EDA prototype image I did for fun is at http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/eda.html > love > Kelly Albert Wang bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:52:08 -0500 (EST) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: WICA On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Jeffrey Miller wrote: I think to the question: Does Jewel practice Wicca? I would have to say no. From references in Mindfire, Jewel does have a background in Native American beliefs. Native American beliefs are very centered in nature and so I imagine that's where the questions about Wicca might have surfaced from. Keep in mind that Wicca isn't the only belief system centered in nature and other than the differing sects of Christianity and Catholicism most belief systems are compatible with one another- it's all a matter of choices you make and what you believe. For example, I am a Christian in my beliefs and values, but I also believe very strongly in Native American nature-based spiritualism. Why? I don't know. I just do and always have. Albert S. Wang bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:06:53 -0500 (EST) From: BDamis@aol.com Subject: Re: NADC - What do I do with Maxell points? Eric Molle (efmolle@sprintmail.com) wrote: > Not true either! I'm just full of information tonight... > Check out http://www.tdk.com/tdkmax.htm > TDK will redeem MaxPoints for their brand of tapes. And claypool@hotmail.com wrote: > You must exchange something like 150 pts. for equivalent tape to the > Maxwell XLII 90. The good news: I got my tapes within a week or two, so I know the offer works. The bad news: Even thought their site clearly SHOWS pictures of 90 minute cassettes, what I GOT were 60 minute tapes. I took the 200 points for a metal tape deal, so your mileage may vary. But both the Type II tape picture and the metal-tape picture on their site are clearly identifiable as 90 minute cassettes. Free is certainly nice, but I've never bought a 60 minute tape in my life. Cheers, Bob Damis BDamis@aol.com bobd@li.net http://members.aol.com/cathyspage (The Cathy Kreger Web Page) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: NJC: Re: NADC - What do I do with Maxell points? bob wrote: > The bad news: Even thought their site clearly SHOWS pictures of 90 minute > cassettes, what I GOT were 60 minute tapes. I took the 200 points for a > metal tape deal, so your mileage may vary. But both the Type II tape picture > and the metal-tape picture on their site are clearly identifiable as 90 > minute cassettes. i sent away for the Type II tapes, and i used 4 different addresses because i had a whole mess of max points. each of the 4 packages i rec'd had SA-X 100 minute tapes. so i was very surprised to get better tapes than i bargained for. but i feel bad that bob only got 60 minute tapes. so i guess it's luck of the draw peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 15:27:56 EST From: anand.gajjala@adn.alcatel.com (Anand Gajjala) Subject: Re: Washington Post review of show at 9:30 club Sorry! The correct address is: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1997-03/13/141L-031397-idx.html I accidentally put in "wp-serv" instead of "wp-srv" > > Your link didn't work! > > Anand Gajjala wrote: > > > > A review of Jewel's show appears in today's Washinton Post. Here is the URL > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-serv/WPlate/1997-03/13/141L-031397-idx.html > > > > I'd put the text here, but it is copyrighted. > > > > Anand > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:29:41 -0500 From: Sarah Chipps Subject: To all going to concerts - favor!? Hi all, I'm stuck down here in Florida, land of no Jewel concerts. :) On the AOL chat the other day, I had asked Jewel about the poetry book..and she said there's a tiny one out currently at the concerts (which Tim wrote about). I was wondering if someone could pick me up two of these (one for my bff)? I'd pay you the money + postage, and I'd REALLY appreciate it! :) Thanks guys(and gals;), Sarah sarahec@freenet.tlh.fl.us ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:41:08 -0800 (PST) From: MaRa Lourdes Subject: Re: WICA At 07:37 AM 3/13/97 -0500, BORKMAN437@aol.com wrote: >Well, if she practiced Wicca, her poems and music, wouldn't have so much god >content. You are wrong, sir. In Celtic Wicca the first belief states that "God is the overseeing intelligence that created the universe..." Reference: American Religious Creeds, Vol. III MaRa Lourdes ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:50:40 -0500 From: Allan Subject: Jewel News Story Jewel has proved to be big-hearted in more ways than we ever imagined =97 proving she's not just another pretty yodeler. Last Monday, she and some of the more fogeyish rockers =97 Anita Baker, Michael Bolton, Mary-Chapin Carpenter, and Richard Marx =97 went to Capitol Hill in Washington, DC, to pressure their congressmen to support the arts in education.=20 The artists performed at local schools in an attempt to raise awareness for this very worthwhile cause. And in case you're wondering, this star-studded contingent didn't get to snooze in the Lincoln Bedroom =97 a bedroom that Lincoln never bedded down in, we might add. The whole shebang was sponsored by NARAS (National Academy of the Recording Arts and Sciences) and Americans for the Arts, which also held a conference between business leaders and entertainment wigs.=20 Jewel's other good deed for the year was to give her former boyfriend and his band the opening slot on her current U.S. tour. Jewel and Steve Poltz, the lead singer of the Rugburns, were considered San Diego's alterna-couple when they were together back in 1995. Insiders used to refer to the toothsome twosome as the Southland's answer to Evan Dando and Juliana Hatfield; they were always cuddling and cooing whenever they were spotted in public. Then something happened and the beautiful bubble burst, and the next thing you know Jewel was being pursued by Sean Penn and was finally caught by that hunky French model with the girl's name. Okay, we know Michele is one of those genderless handles, but it's hard to trust anyone who is that pretty.=20 According to Atlantic Records, everything is fine between Jewel and Michele; it's just that Jewel wanted to give her ex's band a boost and took them on the road with her when she began her U.S. jaunt last month in Maine. How do we know if Poltz was with her when she stormed Capitol Hill? We do know that he wasn't with the rest of Rugburn when he inked a solo deal with Mercury last week. According to Mercury's trusted ones, there are no hard feelings = =97 in fact, they tell us that Rugburns members are actually going to play on Poltz's solo effort.=20 http://pi.microsoft.com/tln/totallylive.htm ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #182 ***************************