From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #159 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Thursday, March 6 1997 Volume 02 : Number 159 Today's Subjects: ----------------- As the cricket turns... [dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu] NJC: more harris than chewbacca ["Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of ] NJC: Blockbuster's Rockfest [Douglas Stephen Garay ] NJC: Being an EDA like being gay?..uhh..what? [Andre Sebastian Wong ] NJC Whatsoever: Midwest Soapbox Rantings ["'Rev.' Jim Schramm" ] NJC: Lefties, Beck [StarlaGurl@aol.com] Charlie Rose [Matt Willcourt ] re:re:as the cricket turns... [dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu] Re: VH1 - Help [Matt Willcourt ] LC - AAN [Reggev Michael ] re:re:as the cricket turns... [dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu] Re: YODEL!!!! ["Larry G." ] Jewel on Tonight Show [Justin C Lloyd ] adrian [Ringokid23@aol.com] Thank You [pkivler@erols.com] Re: MJC:I said there would be more...newcomer [Tlcathome@aol.com] Re: NJC: Who could cover Jewel's songs? [Tlcathome@aol.com] Re: Sometimes it be....my way [Tlcathome@aol.com] Who could cover Jewel's songs? Answer: Dee Carstensen! ["Lo Chun Man, Eri] Re: adrian [the emperor of smurfs ] Re: adrian [Tlcathome@aol.com] Re: NJC: Lefties, Beck [Alex & Agata ] NJC and JC [wingcat@olypen.com (Cynthia Cimperman)] Toronto show [GiannyAngl@aol.com] Re: NJC: Who could cover Jewel's songs? [Horter3@aol.com] Outraged at a Jewel Review!! [sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz)] Adrian, and the like ["She Who Is (Christina Ferrara)" ] Weird Day [GiannyAngl@aol.com] GET ME OFF THIS LIST!!! [drake ] re: RE: Outraged at a Jewel Review [sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowi] Philly show [RussRive@aol.com] Toronto Appearance Updates [James McGarry ] TV [B E Casteel ] NJC [steel@cybertap.com (Roy Conlin)] [Fwd: [Fwd: friendship...]] [steel@cybertap.com (Roy Conlin)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 00:16:22 -0600 From: dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu Subject: As the cricket turns... derrick....i dont mean to sound mean and with so much talk about being "unEDAlike"...but if you are gettin flamed...stop. We really dont need to hear it....sorry but its true... Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:25:01 -0600 (CST) From: "Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng beaver." Subject: NJC: more harris than chewbacca Rev Angus-- Your mother was a Harris? And I bet your father smelt of elderberries! :) I think the O'Gavins, back in the old country, had a blood feud with the MacHarris Clan from the hill country, in county Wexford. Both family's lives were consumed with the daily altercations of smacking the other family's members upside the head with tupperware, and viscious frisbee wars. This continued for many generations, until this beautiful angel came down from the heavens, light shining from her eyes, sparkles on her dress (through which you could see her nipples), and voice ringing, telling us to "knock it the fuck off!" Well, we heralded her divine words (she said some other jimjam about hands and thought) and have since been friendly. At least we don't beat the hell out of each other. Except on thursdays in September. Hey, we're only human. We're not friggin' angels or anything! :) tim gavin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:58:18 -0600 (CST) From: Douglas Stephen Garay Subject: NJC: Blockbuster's Rockfest I have received many messages asking about my experience getting tickets for Jewel's show at the Rockfest in Fort Worth this summer, so I thought I'd just post it to the news group instead of writing to each person individually. Let me say this. . . it was *easy* to order the tickets. All in the world you have to do is go to Blockbuster and spend some money. For every $10 you spend, you get one ticket. You then take the receipt and mail it with a coupon in that magazine they give out (free) at Blockbuster. And that's it! EASY!!! Four weeks later, you'll be holding the tickets to what could very well be the biggest show Jewel will ever play, as far as numbers go. There were two other ways to get tickets. You could buy lots of Fruit of the Loom stuff, and sent them two proof of purchases per ticket, or buy them from Ticketmaster. Please avoid Ticketmaster. They're criminals. I assume this is true for any Blockbuster anywhere across the country! Speaking of country, Blockbuster is having a "Countryfest" one week before us angels will be converging on the spot. It's the same thing as rockfest, but country singers instead. Our favorite 14 year old is on the line-up. For those who are interested, my $20 was spent on two cd's. One was Marilyn Manson, which I just bought for fun. The other is one that I STRONGLY recommend to all of you. I'm not a big Bruce Springsteen fan, but I figured if "The Ghost of Tom Joad" was good enough to win the Folk Grammy, it was good enough for me. Fellow angels: this cd is AWESOME. Don't buy it unless you really like folk music. If you're not clear why many people don't consider Jewel folk, maybe after listening to this one, you'll understand. The songs are all stories put to music, and they follow the folk genre. If you're new to folk and haven't ever bought any before, this would be a good one. If you hate it, you could tell your friends that you bought it 'cause it was The Boss. But if you don't care one way or the other, then run, fast, to Blockbuster and buy this record. You will be impressed. Take care, and I'll see you in Fort Worth! Near you always, Douglas ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:27:30 -0600 From: "Abram Morphew" Subject: Re: getting lost, and more remedies > another thing i like to do when i find myself depressed is to take all my > clothes off and turn on some music and dance in my apartment and make > loud noises and trying to play my guitar upside down and left handed. > if anyone ever saw me, it sure would cure their depression! i don't know... when ever i am depressed i do turn up loud music... like some smashing pumpkins or something similar (i know most people on this list don't like this kinda music) and jump around... of course then my parents walk in... i guess it prevents me from taking off my clothes like laura.... life can be summed up in a quioquialism... abram ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:00:46 -0600 From: "Abram Morphew" Subject: Re: Blockbuster's Rockfest > I have received many messages asking about my experience getting tickets > for Jewel's show at the Rockfest in Fort Worth this summer, so I thought > I'd just post it to the news group instead of writing to each person > individually. does anyone know the date for this concert??? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 23:21:45 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Sebastian Wong Subject: NJC: Being an EDA like being gay?..uhh..what? > > Y'know... It's a lot like being gay. You sorta have this feeling that > there's something up; and you're like this your whole life until someone > points it out to you. Then it all seems to make sense and a lot of > things you always wondered about are clear. Sure, it's scary at first, ahem..I don't want to sound homophobic, which I definitely am not, but I'm not gay either. I've never felt I was gay( not even close) , or different for that matter(which I gather is a common feeling with EDA's?). I've always felt pretty normal and accepted, does that make me EDA-handicapped? With all that said, I think ( or maybe hope )I've got the point about being an Every Day Angel ( Julie Britsol put it to me best) and I think it's a great way to live one's life. I wonder if it's a revelation for me or a reiteration of something I already knew. Anyway, thanks. peace, Awn ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 23:29:47 +0000 From: Tom Morales Subject: Re: Sometimes it be....my way I think your song is great now can you tape it in time for the EDA cover? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 01:35:59 -0600 From: "'Rev.' Jim Schramm" Subject: NJC Whatsoever: Midwest Soapbox Rantings *climbing up on his rickety soapbox* ... Ahem.. Hi Angels! This has been an interesting couple of weeks on the ol' Jewel List... There has been a LOT of grumbling, whining, bitching and just plain depressing posts flying around... I can empathize with a lot of it, and I can see how many of us like to look to our fellow EDA's for support when things go bad.. but that seems to be the majority of the posts lately, and that has prompted me to throw in my $.02.... I know you didn't ask to hear this, but what the hey... Rev.'s are supposed to preach every once in awhile. If you are thinking about sending a less-than-cheery post to your fellow EDA's that really has nothing to do with the Jewel list, or 99.9% of the EDA's in general, think about it before you hit that send key... A lot of times it's cathartic enough just to write the letter, and sending it do sen't accomplish anything more...(except open yourself up to as many non supportive replies as supportive ones..) Which brings me to my second point... If you're feeling like flaming someone 'cause you didn't quite agree with his post... write the letter if you feel you must... but what good does it do to send it to them? And posting it to the list is probably even more non-constructive. It's like the whole idea that Jewel likes to talk about when she's explaining 'I'm Sensitive'... where she says that we can recycle bad vibes into good ones... I'll be the first to admit that a lot of times I don't agree with some of the stuff that fills up my mailbox everyday, but the one thing you'll never see from me on this list is a flame... you can't be positive and upbeat 365 days a year, but what the hell, it's at least something we can strive for.... Last but not least, If you really need to post to the list for support and help, by all means, feel free to... But it's probably not necessary to do it for every little thing that goes wrong. (That was not meant to belittle any of the subjects from the past couple of weeks, and it wasn't directed at anyone in particular...) Hopefully your fellow angels will offer you the support you're looking for... Let's all try to look at things from another (nicer) angle... Peace, Rev. Jim *Please direct all 'flame' replies to RevrndJim@aol.com (the aol account that I canceled a couple of months ago... :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 02:56:55 -0500 From: Demian Blair Subject: Ticket for the PITTSBURGH show Hello All EDA's! If you don't want to go to the Pittsburgh concert, or have your tix already, then go ahead and trash this now. For the rest of you wanting to go to the concert who don't have your ticket yet, I have one ticket up for grabs. The seat is 12th row, 2 sec off of center. I had given it to an unfortunate EDA needing a seat at cost, but I found out today that that EDA will not be going after all. SO, for anyone who wants to go to the Pittsburgh show with me, email me. I thought about giving it to the first one to respond, but instaed, I will be picking the one that sends me the FUNNIEST REASON WHY I SHOULD PICK THEM. I liked the idea so much when a fellow angel used it for those 2 CD's (which I didn't get:( I decided to 'borrow' it myself. Figured 1) at least I'll get some extra entertainment out of my second ticket and 2) I won't get stuck next to someone with no sense of humor for the show:) Anyway, make 'em funny and I'll get back to the best one Friday afternoon and we can work out the details. L8er, Demian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 03:11:17 -0500 (EST) From: StarlaGurl@aol.com Subject: NJC: Lefties, Beck Hello to all you Everyday Angels! Well, I think I'll stop calling myself a lurker, now since this is my second post. :> I just had a few things to say to you all, but first, let me say that I finally got up enough courage to download mIRC software and try it out! I am so bad with computers (except with Internet-related things like e-mail, web page constructing and the like) that I hadn't tried before. But I was reading the list and loved hearing from you guys so much that i decided I *had to* try to get on the Undernet so I could chat with you all. I downloaded the software and got on and played around a bit. It was much easier than I had anticipated. I hope to see you all on Saturday! I'm just so jazzed that I managed to do it at all! Now onto the actual subjects of this post.... I was chatting in the AOL EDA room earlier with a fellow EDA for a bit and we both mentioned that we were left handed. I've found that often left handers seem to be some of the smartest people I've met. Since you guys *must* be smart if you are EDAs and Jewel fans, I was wondering, just how many of us are lefties, or are would-be lefties who were forced into righthanded-ness by non-understanding parents or teachers? Whew, that was a long sentance. :> I do wonder, though, what the lefty content of the list is. If you lefties could mention it somewhere in one of your posts, that'd be great. And for all the non-lefty EDAs, I hereby make you all honorary lefties, the highest honor a lefty could bestow, for showing brains and taste by being an EDA. I also heard a quote recently (though I can't remember who it was from) that said something to the manner of "Jewel is the female version of Beck." Being a Beck fan as well as a Jewel fan, I took this as a complement. I wondered, though, what all you EDAs thought of it. I know that, on the surface, their music sounds way different, but they actually are fundamentally similar, to me, when you look at them and their music. They both are great thinkers and put a lot of emotion into their work. They both list similar types of music as their influences, although their music types are quite different. They both put out extremely high quality music, something there seems to be a shortage of nowadays (if you disagree, think Spice Girls and all those other manufactured-by-the-record-label groups). They both are great performers and can really connect with the audience (this is something I have only heard, not experienced myself since I have yet to go to a concert of any kind :< ). They are both very talented artists. I say artists, and not musicians because their talents seem to spread beyond just singing, songwriting, and guitar playing. I could easily see either of them 10 years from now doing something other than performing music, and doing it quite well. Well, what do you all think of this comparison? My mother (who is also a Jewel and a Beck fan) and I had a great discussion about this when we heard the quote. I'd be interested in hearing how you all view it. :> Well, that's all from me. I should be heading off to bed now. Meg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:16:04 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Willcourt Subject: Charlie Rose I, too, thoroughly enjoyed the interview the other night. But did anyone else notice some interesting things? Such as Charlie Rose asked her a lot about Sean Penn, and the song she sang was the song she wrote for his movie. And one of the guests on after her interview played the lead character in "I Shot Andy Warhol", a movie to which Jewel contributed a song on the soundtrack. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 03:16:15 -0600 From: dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu Subject: re:re:as the cricket turns... alright, as before...i was misunderstood. all i meant was that if he is getting flamed and doesnt like it he should stop. And such a personla thing is something private. If he wanted support or the like and you are such good friens then he could write you personally and not use the list. Please dont flame me again for this...somehow or another...i think flaming is "unEDAlike" Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 01:23:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Willcourt Subject: Re: VH1 - Help A few days ago I noticed we got VH-1 back on my cable station as well, sort of. It goes off the air at 5 pm when the channel switches to "Spice"; porn pay-per-view. How sacrilegious to think I could be watching Jewel on VH-1 one minute, and have her interrupted by a porno movie! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 11:44:02 +0200 (IST) From: Reggev Michael Subject: LC - AAN Now who'd we say was running the AAN project? There seem to be quite a few newbies looking for foster parents, so I think it may be time to re-post the details of the program. 42, Tuff - TIE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 03:45:26 -0600 From: dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu Subject: re:re:as the cricket turns... well, thank you for the apology...but now i apoplogize. It's been hectic on the list lately and it just seemed to annoy me with all the talk on various subjects(not to offend any of the participants) I was just takin out frustration in a aggressive manner. Iunderstand the need for support and such. and i really didnt mean to sound like a snot when i said "unEDAlike"... sorry for any annoyance or hurt feelings..i really apoplogize. Dan "I'm sorry....so sorry..." that kid in the paper towl commercial At 11:35 AM 3/6/97 +0200, you wrote: >Dan, >first I'd like to apologize for flaming you. I didn't mean to do that. It >was just that your post really annoyed me. You see, I feel that of all the >places and of all the people in the world that someone can open up to, can >share suce personal, private things, the EDAs should be one of the best. >It is obvious that Derrick waqnted support, but I'm afraid I can't say >we're such close friends. If he hadn't sent out those letters, filled with >his pain, I wouldn't have known of it at all. It is perfectly true that >once you have someone who'd support you, you should take these things off >the list and into private mailings, but he didn't have that 'someone >special' for support. So he came to the EDAs, and asked for help. He >didn't do it in a very gentle way, and he probably hurt a few people along >the way, but most of the replys he got were not as supportive as you would >expect from the EDAs, so he came out again, and asked people not to flame >him. He felt really hurt, and so his request was very bitter. Then you >came out, and flamed him. You said it was his fault he was getting flamed. >Now I ask you, is it anyone's fault if they get flamed just for being >themselves? Is flaming someone for being honest, even when it's >unpleasent, "EDAlike"? I'm sorry if this seems like a flame, because it >isn't meant as such, but to me the first requirment from an EDA is to be >human. "To thyself be true". > >42, >Tuff - TIE > >On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu wrote: > >> alright, as before...i was misunderstood. all i meant was that if he is >> getting flamed and doesnt like it he should stop. And such a personla thing >> is something private. If he wanted support or the like and you are such >> good friens then he could write you personally and not use the list. Please >> dont flame me again for this...somehow or another...i think flaming is >> "unEDAlike" >> Dan >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 02:08:06 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: YODEL!!!! Greg Dunn wrote: > I don't remember who suggested it originally, but I think it would be great > if Jewel opened up with "Chime Bells" and got it out of the way (or at > least very early in the set). Several groups (Blues Traveller comes to > mind) open with the song everybody's yelling for at the time; it sort of > defuses the idiots who only came to see one song. Hopefully, the > loudmouths will go to the bar and get plastered quietly after that, and the > EDAs can enjoy the concert. > I had to think about that one for a few minutes. I did. What a great idea!!! - -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 05:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: Justin C Lloyd Subject: Jewel on Tonight Show Pardon me if this has already been announced (I may have missed it by going through so many digests lately), but Jewel is scheduled to be on the Tonight Show this Friday, the 7th. I saw this listed on the Tonight Show guest list at http://www.nbc.com/tonightshow/guests.html. JcL - -- Justin C. Lloyd ______________________________________________________________ Graduate Teaching Assistant phone: 904/644-0559 Department of Computer Science email: lloyd@cs.fsu.edu Florida State University www: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lloyd P + L = :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 00:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: Ringokid23@aol.com Subject: adrian one of my favorite Jewel songs, but one that doesnt seem to be mentioned much or to be on most of the posted set lists, is adrian. i was wondering what you guys think about it, and why its not talked about or played that often. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 08:37:22 -0800 From: pkivler@erols.com Subject: Thank You I just have to say thank you for this list because if it wasn't for this list, I would have missed Jewel on Charlie Rose. I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one to get a little choked up from Emily. Luckily, I had just bought a new VCR the day before and I got to make some really good audio and video recordings of the performance. I've been a little depressed lately because I just graduated college and I will be starting a job on Tuesday (which means I will be working for the next 40 years of my life). I just found out that Jewel was playing at the Tower Theatre on 3/9 in Philly, and I decided to get a ticket. I was a little hesitant to go by myself at first (my friends aren't really into Jewel), but after seeing Charlie Rose, I know it will be worth it. I wouldn't miss it for the world. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:15:39 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: MJC:I said there would be more...newcomer In a message dated 97-03-06 00:44:25 EST, you write: << I was wondering if there are any EDA's in New Jersey? Also does anyone know if Jewel will play at the former Garden State Arts Center (now PNC something) this summer? A native to NJ would know what I am talking about as a lot of bands tend to pass through there in the summer. >> Actually, there are a few of us NJ EDA's here. Is this the one in North Brunswick?? (We've only been in NJ since last July, so I'm not sure :-) We're hoping she returns to NJ after her European tour :-) tlc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:17:20 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: Who could cover Jewel's songs? In a message dated 97-03-06 00:45:11 EST, you write: << melissa ethridge???? are you kidding???? >> No, I'm NOT kidding. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: Sometimes it be....my way In a message dated 97-03-06 02:36:02 EST, you write: << I think your song is great now can you tape it in time for the EDA cover? >> yeah - this is a great idea - (maybe someone should do an all parody tape......) tlc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 22:28:49 +0800 From: "Lo Chun Man, Eric" Subject: Who could cover Jewel's songs? Answer: Dee Carstensen! - -----Original Message----- From: MAMBO79@aol.com [SMTP:MAMBO79@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 1997 10:47 AM To: Tlcathome@aol.com; watkins@selway.umt.edu; jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re: NJC: Who could cover Jewel's songs? melissa ethridge???? are you kidding???? duncan sheik would be a nice combo though........ Who could cover Jewel's songs?......You would be surprised to hear...Dee = Carstensen! Like she can cover Jimi Hendrix's classic "Angel" on harp and vocals, I = think she could cover Jewel's songs "Pieces Of You", "Near You Always", = "Painters" and "Morning Song" on harp and vocals as well! Why?...because Dee can play the harp - this classical instrument - like = playing guitar! And her vocal range is very suitable for these songs! You don't know her? You must go to see my Dee Carstensen page at = http://www.hkstar.com/~ericnet/moncoeur/deecar.html! And Dee's = "official" page - http://songs.com/dee/index.html as well! Eric Lo Author of The Unofficial Dee Carstensen Pages =20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:49:18 -0500 (EST) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: Re: adrian On Thu, 6 Mar 1997 Ringokid23@aol.com wrote: > one of my favorite Jewel songs, but one that doesnt seem to be mentioned much > or to be on most of the posted set lists, is adrian. i was wondering what you > guys think about it, and why its not talked about or played that often. on numerous occasions, people have asked Jewel to play "Adrian" and she has bluntly said "i don't remember it." i think it is a pretty lyrically complex song...so i can fully unnerstand how she could forget it. i have also heard her struggle her way through "Adrian" with the audience supplying the appropriate lyrics when she couldn't remember. for me it is quite painful to hear this. peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:02:11 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: adrian Well, it seems to be a lot of people's favorite - doesn't it seem that someone screams for this song at just about every concert (at least it seems like it's on most of our boots - and someone screamed for it at the Beacon 3/2). I really like the song too, but if I was forced to pick a fav., I'd probably have to go with His Pleasure Is My Pain (at least as far as the emotional songs go). There are too many songs I love - I'd have to split them up by category, then choose a fav in each :-) tlc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 09:05:39 -0600 From: Alex & Agata Subject: Re: NJC: Lefties, Beck > I also heard a quote recently (though I can't remember who it was from) that > said something to the manner of "Jewel is the female version of Beck." Being > a Beck fan as well as a Jewel fan, I took this as a complement. I wondered, > though, what all you EDAs thought of it. I know that, on the surface, their > music sounds way different, but they actually are fundamentally similar, to > me, when you look at them and their music. They both are great thinkers and > put a lot of emotion into their work. They both list similar types of music > as their influences, although their music types are quite different. They > both put out extremely high quality music, something there seems to be a > shortage of nowadays (if you disagree, think Spice Girls and all those other > manufactured-by-the-record-label groups). They both are great performers and > can really connect with the audience (this is something I have only heard, > not experienced myself since I have yet to go to a concert of any kind :< ). > I'd be interested in hearing how you all view it. :> > Meg What Beck and Jewel share used to be called "soul". They put real feeling into their music which you can absolutely hear. Most musicians and listeners are content with pretty voices (Whitney Houston, Toni Braxton) or following a comfortable formula ('80s glam metal, 90s pop country). I love all kinds of music where the artist exhibits soul, some of my favorites are: Janis Joplin, Andres Segovia (classical guitar player), Robert Johnson (early blues singer), Billie Holliday, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Marley, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and like Meg, Beck and of course Jewel. I'd think that any true fan of Jewel's music would also especially love Janis Joplin and Billie Holliday. Billie may have been our most soulful singer ever, she had to put up with these annoying '40s pop musical arrangements but her voice shines through the soaring violin bits. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 08:48:51 -0800 From: wingcat@olypen.com (Cynthia Cimperman) Subject: NJC and JC What in the heck do "JC" and "NJC" mean?? *help* Jewel Concert? I'm lost on this one... My favorite song was that race car song she did on the radio... I've only heard it once, because I don't have my bootlegs yet, but just you wait... THEN I'll know the words!!! *stand back* Cyn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:28:24 -0500 (EST) From: GiannyAngl@aol.com Subject: Toronto show Hi everybody, sorry if this sounds kinda stupid but the toronto show is still a go right? I've kinda been in hibernation for the last day and heard nothing. Thanks in advance. Gian.C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:30:53 -0500 (EST) From: Horter3@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: Who could cover Jewel's songs? In a message dated 97-03-03 20:10:11 EST, watkins@selway.umt.edu (Chopped Liver) writes: > Then I started thinking about > wich of Jewel's songs could be covered well by other singers. We've done > this the other way around, but how about it? Who do you think could do > justice to one of Jewel's songs? Well...in a spat of shameless self-promotion, let me say that some of our OWN can do justice to Jewel songs. Yes you read that right, EDA's have recorded versions of several of Jewel's songs and they have been compiled onto a tape. This tape will soon be made available to the list (as soon as we get out butts into gear and finish it). There was a preview listening at Lizstock at which it was given a might huzzah, and was warmly received. Keep your eyes peeled for future scathing announcements. This end THIS commercial!!! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:53:22 -0500 From: sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz) Subject: Outraged at a Jewel Review!! I saw Jewel concert here at Colby College in Maine last Friday and I just read the school newspaper's review. I'm outraged! I'll give you the "lowlights" as it were: The author started out with a VERY negative review of the Rugburns saying that "they were about as pleasant as their name would suggest." On to Jewel... "Many of her first few songs showcased her vocal ability but were not memorable in and of themselves. The biggest response from the audience was to the song "I was Meant for You" which is her latest release..." I Was Meant For You!!??!?!?! Uhh, don't write the review if you don't know what you're talking about. More: "...songs that made a genuine attempt at being meaningful but fell towards cheap sentimentality. In particular there was a piece that she said was written to memorialize a friend of hers, it was called "Fatboy" and fell dead on the audience because of the fact that it was so hard to take seriously." It's called "Fragile Flame." She even said that before she started to sing it!! Get A CLUE!!!!! Cheap sentimentality????!! You wouldn't know real sentimentality if it bit you on the nose. Finally: "A similar song was supposed to recall a friend who had died of a heroin overdose, and it achieved little more than 'Fatboy.'" ARGH!!!!!!!!!!! I realize that not everybody can love Jewel (that's a tragedy), but at least GET YOU FACTS STRAIGHT! Sorry to bug y'all with this, but it really is an outrage. Peace to all (yes even to the guy who wrote this abomination of an article), Steve /> / / Stephen (//////[0]>=====================================- \ \ Horowitz \> "It isn't important to come out on top. What matters is to be the one who comes out alive." -Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:55:20 -0500 (EST) From: "She Who Is (Christina Ferrara)" Subject: Adrian, and the like At the risk of getting flamed or something like that, I don't really like "Adrian" because I think it's really depressing. It's a good song, though, don't get me wrong. And I don't like Beck much at all, because I don't understand him. His songs are all beginning to sound the same to me, with the verses that are a lot of words run together and then the chorus that doesn't necessarily make sense. And Loser wasn't exactly a positive song (though it was my favorite song I've heard by him so far). I'm not passing judgment, because I'm really trying to cut back on that, because I don't think that's very Angelike. I'm merely stating my opinion and realizing that people may differ and accepting that. Amen. Oh, and my favorite Jewel song? Hm. I like I'm Sensitive. Painters is cool. The thing is, my Jewel experience is limited, because the only exposure I've had thus far is PoY. I like Amen too. (that's why I suddenly remembered after I thought I'd finished this posting.) Godbless. May the Lord God bless you always, Keeping you forever near; May S/He fill your life with Love and Light And quiet all your fear. Christina M. Ferrara Your Sister in the Lord ^ ^ ( \ / ) (_ \*/ _) (_ O _) ( s| > < |s ) ( / \ ) (/ / \ \) /angel\ --------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:59:37 -0500 (EST) From: GiannyAngl@aol.com Subject: Jewel on MM I'm sorry if this has alreay been posted. Jewel's appearance an muchmusic has been rescheduled to 2:30PM instead of 1:45PM. well that's it. Gian.C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:01:34 -0500 (EST) From: LikeHi@aol.com Subject: NJC: Lyrics to Buttercup??? Hi, I want to write out in real pretty letters the song to Buttercup for someone very special but I don't know all the words. Can someone help me out please??? :) Thanks! B. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 13:05:22 -0500 From: "Peter Jones" Subject: Re: NJC and JC Cyn, JC = Jewel Content NJC = Non Jewel Content Check out the Jewel Netiquette website, set up for new members to the list (the site is included in the Majordomo welcome once you are signed up). It gives you all of the definitions, plus exciting places to find Jewel content on the website. It is located at http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/. Welcome! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:20:40 -0500 (EST) From: GiannyAngl@aol.com Subject: Weird Day It was the wierdest day yesterday (mar 5/97). First it was snowing very hard where I lived and I was beginning to get concerned with how bad the roads were going to be and if they were going to be drivable to go see Jewel. Then I hear she might cancel, which I am still unsure of but hav'nt heard anything. To top it all off my computer starts acting funny and I had to get a new e-mail address. All in all a weird day. Today the sun is shining and the birds are singing, and I have a good feeling today will be a day to remember. Hope I didn't bore you all with this. Gian.C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 13:28:16 +0000 From: drake Subject: GET ME OFF THIS LIST!!! I can't seem to get off this list! Don't mail me back, I don't care, it does not work when I try to get off the list. Somebody please get me off this list now! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:35:50 -0500 From: sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz) Subject: re: RE: Outraged at a Jewel Review > >Write the guy back (nicely, NOT outraged, and set him straight). Nice is more >effective. I was actually planning on writing a letter to the editor for publication in the next issue. It would, of course, be polite and well-written with maybe "clueless" only being mentioned once. [JK] :) Peace to all, Steve /> / / Stephen (//////[0]>=====================================- \ \ Horowitz \> "It isn't important to come out on top. What matters is to be the one who comes out alive." -Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 13:36:11 -0500 (EST) From: RussRive@aol.com Subject: Philly show After seeing an amazing show on Monday night at the Beacon theater, I would like to go to the Philadelphia show on Sunday. If one of you has an extra ticket please let me know. Thanks, Russell Rebel without a clue ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 14:04:24 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: Toronto Appearance Updates Heya Kids, CFNY says Jewel will NOT, repeat NOT be at CFNY this afternoon/evening. She has a bit of a cold and is trying to limit press appearances. The show itself is still on. Dunno about the MM appearance, but I'm guessing she will not be there either. James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:27:25 -0500 From: B E Casteel Subject: TV Women First (the edition hosted by Jewel) will be re-aired by VH1(?) on Sunday, March 9th at 1PM Eastern Time. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:31:23 -0500 From: steel@cybertap.com (Roy Conlin) Subject: NJC okok...I know you all hate these but please remember that I do not post too much of anything so when I see something that I want to post it must be really good. I do not think this is just another chain letter *ducking to avoid pies* it is just kinda a neat one because it does not "NEED" to be sent on...just read to enjoy it :-) *letter is next message* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 14:31:44 -0500 From: steel@cybertap.com (Roy Conlin) Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: friendship...]] Return-Path: Received: from zorro.bctel.ca ([204.174.64.65]) by merlin.cybertap.com (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11090) with ESMTP id AAA669 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 21:54:09 -0500 Received: from LOCALNAME (kmlp01m01-27.bctel.ca [207.102.34.27]) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.8.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA16909 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:54:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <331CD345.2385@bc.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 17:58:29 -0800 From: SRC Enterprises X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-SYMPA (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: steel@cybertap.com Subject: [Fwd: friendship...] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from m1.gtn.net ([207.6.232.10]) by zorro.bctel.ca (8.8.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA08049 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 14:31:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from vanessag ([207.6.232.107]) by m1.gtn.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-13297) with SMTP id AAA180; Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:31:21 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970304223035.0067525c@gtn.net> X-Sender: vanessa@gtn.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 17:30:35 -0500 To: spirit@geko.net.au, bkent1@ix.netcom.com, eastwoc@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA, SRCent@bc.sympatico.ca, mainframe@wwn.net, yu102971@YORKU.CA, sblack@findersmall.com, thistan@wwn.net, dkirsch@prairie.nodak.edu, flybmw@aol.com, purple1@erols.com, blade@goldrush.com, gjlewis@unixg.ubc.ca, isilcarr@enoreo.on.ca, jjohnson6@voyager.net, hamlet@fox.nstn.ca, ifc@eburg.com, sirlars@gtn.net, loredo@siwash.bc.ca, maryt@cwave.com, mcarkner@compmore.net, mcgowanp@direct.ca, sdelcast@alum.uax.es, sfpsgsc@itsa.ucsf.edu, kings_sc@students.uwlax.edu, stryker1@hotmail.com, mehta@UCLINK2.BERKELEY.EDU From: vanessa@gtn.net (Gardner, Vanessa) Subject: friendship... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: b7dca8f6978ffe5247c97a4cd3d0b232 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 > >>>> Friendship is a strange thing....we find ourselves telling each > >>>> other the deepest details of our lives...things we don't even share > >>>> with our families who raised us...But what is a friend? A confidant? A > >>>> lover? A fellow email junkie? A shoulder to cry on? an ear to listen? a > >>>> heart to feel?...A friend is all these things...and more. No matter > >>>> where we met, ....I call you friend. A word so small...yet so large in > >>>> feeling...a word filled with emotion. It is true great things come in > >>>> small packages. Once the package of friendship has been opened, it can > >>>> never be closed...it is a constant book always written...waiting to be > >>>> read...and enjoyed. > >>>> > >>>> We may have our disagreements...we may argue...we may concern one > >>>> another...friendship is a unique bond that lasts through it all.... > >>>> A part of me is put into my friends...some it is my humor...some it > >>>> is my listening ear...some it is real life experiences...some it is my > >>>> romanticism...but with all, it is friendship. > >>>> > >>>> Friendships forged are a construct stronger than steel > >>>> built as a foundation....necessary for life...and > >>>> necessary for love. > >>>> Friends...you and me... > >>>> you brought another friend... > >>>> and then there were 3... > >>>> we started our group... > >>>> Our circle of friends... > >>>> and like that circle... > >>>> there is no beginning or end.... > >>>> > >>>> Keep this going....Email all your friends this message....email > >>>> all those friends you never met....those you have...and those you've lost > >>>> along the way... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> It is by chance we met, by choice we became friends... > >>>> > >> > >"No day, no night, no moment, > > can hold me back from trying" > >- Enya > > > > Vanessa Gardner London, ON, Canada vanessa@gtn.net ***Believe in your opinions, but do not believe they contain the whole truth or the only truth*** ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #159 ***************************