From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #141 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Saturday, March 1 1997 Volume 02 : Number 141 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: jewel-digest V2 #139 ["Robert C. Boettcher" ] aol chat [NoraG1@aol.com] here when gone [laura catherine taylor ] Boots ["Robert C. Boettcher" ] Jewel News: Jewel Shelves Second Album (Ottawa Sun, Feb 28, 1997) (fwd) [] Jewel at the Grammys [Varonezh@aol.com] march 3 dinner?? [Groovywyrm@aol.com] Dare To Be Different [Dan Stark ] Re: Dare To Be Different [Grrly1@aol.com] Jewel chatting on march 10 [ehicks@flash.net] JC: late night musical guests [Chopped Liver ] jewel in the Toronto Sun ["Wojtek Kowalewski" ] Re: Dare To Be Different [Tom Morales ] Re: Dare To Be Different [Dan Stark ] Re: Dare To Be Different [2fishnet <2fishnet@concentric.net>] Re: Dare To Be Different [bhartford3rd@juno.com (Bruce D Hartford III)] VH1 Artist of the Month ["B.Good" ] Re: Dare To Be Different [LtjgMacC@aol.com] Re: Dare To Be Different [s181@redrose.net] Valentines Day (was:: Who cares anymore?) [Splugorth@aol.com] Re: Dare To Be Different [krishan@pc.jaring.my (Subashini)] Re: Dare To Be Different [Splugorth@aol.com] hiya and howdy from okc ["Anthony P. Pego" ] Jewel on AOL on 3/10? What about the concert? [Mike Connell ] Jewel Page #12 ["Will, Prince of Insufficient Light" ] JC: Electronic Media: Jewel in MTV arena on AOL [CWATKINS@aol.com] Re: jewel in the Toronto Sun [Ashe Mayfair ] ENOUGH ABOUT THE DRESS [GCove76082@aol.com] NJC: EDA Birthday Announcements for March [tiltedhalo@juno.com (Tom Harri] Re: NJC: Sunny Days............. [hite.23@osu.edu (Brian Hite)] Concert [sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz)] Jewelstock Tape [sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 00:15:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert C. Boettcher" Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #139 Hey Jewel fans. I was just wondering if anybody out there has any bootlegs to trade. Im relly interested in acquiring some. e-mail me Bob Bobby Mcgee is out! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 01:16:06 -0500 (EST) From: NoraG1@aol.com Subject: aol chat when on March 10th will Jewel be in the MTV arena. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:24:55 -0700 (MST) From: laura catherine taylor Subject: here when gone dear everyone, i have the words to here when gone, yet i do not have a copy of it musically. i was wondering if anyone who has this would be willing to tape it for me. i don't remember it being on the tree-tape roster. thanks! lauralune ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 00:30:28 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert C. Boettcher" Subject: Boots Hey Jewel fans I was just wondering if any body has any bootlegs to trade if so im severly interested. e-mail me back.. also is the Minneapolis show sold out bob Bobby Mcgee is out! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:16:10 -0500 (EST) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: Jewel News: Jewel Shelves Second Album (Ottawa Sun, Feb 28, 1997) (fwd) this was sent directly to IM,but i don't believe this has been mentioned on the main EDA list, so i am fwding this post. at the end of the article on the website, it says that "ywmfm" is the 3rd single from PoY. i think the author made a mistake :) peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:08:34 -0500 From: Brenda Thorne To: jewel-news@smoe.org Subject: Jewel News: Jewel Shelves Second Album (Ottawa Sun, Feb 28, 1997) A small blurb in today's Ottawa Sun on Jewel. Taken from their on line version at : http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/jewel_second.html Bummer of the month: Jewel is playing in nearby Montreal and Toronto, while I am in the U.S. on holidays. *sigh* Who times these things????? Cheers, Brenda - -- For a good time: http://www.resudox.net/~roxy/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:33:42 -0500 (EST) From: Varonezh@aol.com Subject: Jewel at the Grammys Hey EDA's, I unsubscribed a few days ago and I'm not sure if I'll be able to post something to the list anymore, but I wanted to give it a try. I was watching Jewel at the Grammys and I started to wonder if all that glamour isn't going to her head. I mean, I was surprised to see her in such a skimpy dress, it made me uneasy. I hope she's not selling herself out. I'm sorry if this has already been dicussed, I'm not part of the list anymore. Anyway, if anyone wants to reply, could they please reply also to Varonezh@aol.com? I'd like to hear some replies (I really miss getting all those emails... who would've thought?) Anyway, thanks for reading... Former EDA, Gene PS Am I still an EDA even though I unsubscribed? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:34:27 -0500 (EST) From: Groovywyrm@aol.com Subject: march 3 dinner?? hey there, well, i sent out a post a few days ago,about dinner at carmines before the show and someone emailed me back, im a dummy, i deleted your mail by accident, and i fergot yer sc name, so whoever you are pleeese respond as soon as you see this, either to mee or russrive@aol.com, hes running this whole joint. thanx dude, sory again---peace,love,Jewel see ya! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:15:12 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Dare To Be Different Hi, I was going to say nothing about this, but hey, it's the Jewel list so I think I should bring it up. First of all, I don't know if I can jump on the bandwagon with everone who liked Jewel's dress. Oh sure, I drooled as much as the rest of the guys at the chance to see more of Jewel than ever before! And I realize she was wearing an expensive, designer dress that some of the top models in the world have probably been paid to model on the catwalk. But while Jewel is obviously beautiful and worthy of such risqe, high fashion, I know there are a lot of people who took it the wrong way. I heard several people the next day, saying they thought Jewel looked "slutty", which is certainly not the image Jewel needs, or may want to portray for herself. Then again, as the sayings go, "sex sells", and "no publicity is bad publicity." If these hold true, then Jewel certainly had a lot of people talking about her the next day who may otherwise have remained uniterested. The other thing I found a little bothersome on the Grammys, believe it or not, was Jewel's diction. Since when did she speak with a European accent? I've always heard her speak with shallow vowels and strong 'R's, like any American. I appreciate her wanting to come across as sophisticated and well-educated, but I found myself cringing at an almost Bristish accent, which I thought was way "put-on". Jewel is clearly very concious of her public image these days, and I think she's starting to do things that aren't "really her", in an attempt to appeal to some kind of 'target audience'. I wish she wouldn't. One of the things that I found so attractive in her in the first pace was her honest, down-to-earth-ness. There are many artists who succeed very well by being exactly who they are. I'd rather see Jewel flip us the bird in jeans & a t-shirt any day, instead of addressing America with a British accent in a see-through dress. Just my opinion, unpopular as it may be here... By the way, I have always believed the Grammys are some of the most pedestrian crap in the music industry, and I'm happy enough that Jewel wasn't placed alongside the likes of such pablum as David Foster and Celine Dion in winning an award. Hopefully the loss means there is now less reason to delay the release of the new album. ttyl! Dan ttyl, Dan - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK danstark@mnsi.net Windsor, Ontario, Canada - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:33:56 -0500 (EST) From: Grrly1@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different In a message dated 3/1/97 8:19:17 AM, you wrote: >The other thing I found a little bothersome on the Grammys, believe it or >not, was Jewel's diction. Since when did she speak with a European accent? >I've always heard her speak with shallow vowels and strong 'R's, like any >American. I appreciate her wanting to come across as sophisticated and >well-educated, but I found myself cringing at an almost Bristish accent, >which I thought was way "put-on". Okay this was brought up before... it seems that anytime jewel has to read a monitor/Script/or teleprompter she speaks very slowly and cautiously, but remember she has Dyslexia... so it probably takes her awhile to comprehend the wods in her head before she can speak them...it comes out slowly and delayed...kinda british sounding. And even though i dont have dyslexia and have always been a good reader, when i have to make a presentation at school...if i am reading off of a card I want to make sure everything comes out right so i often end up sounding "british" too...(although i am half british) but i dont normally speak that way...so um...this probably sounds dumb...but i do think its because she has to comprehend the words in her head (havent you seen her "act" in the wizard of oz?) since they hadnt rehersed much everyone was reading off of their script which was right in front of them the whole time...and you'll notice that jewel is speaking veerrry slowly...kinda like a southern drawl...i found it cute though...and i love the way she speaks when she is reading. okay...done.. Thirza ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 00:44:51 -0700 From: ehicks@flash.net Subject: Jewel chatting on march 10 Someone posted about Jewel chatting on aol on March 10, but it isn't just an aol thing. You can get on the chat through irc also. Go to the mtv site at http://www.mtv.com and try to find the mtv arena page on there for more info. Emily ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 00:49:13 -0700 (MST) From: Chopped Liver Subject: JC: late night musical guests Dave's Guests Monday, March 3 Duncan Sheik Tuesday, March 4 music group James Wednesday, March 5 music group Phish Monday, March 10 singer Joan Osborne (Repeat) Thursday, March 13 singer Madonna (Repeat) Friday, March 14 musicians Brooks and Dunn (Repeat) Tonight Show With Jay Leno Monday, March 3 Me'Shell Ndegeocello ***Friday, March 7 Jewel Monday, March 10 Deana Carter Thursday, March 13 Collective Soul Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 02:56:55 -0500 From: "Wojtek Kowalewski" Subject: jewel in the Toronto Sun As I was sitting and relaxing on my brake, I shuffled through the Toronto Sun newspaper that was on the table. The picture that caught my eye was that of jewel in her Grammy dress. Beside the picture was the following quote: "Sometimes I don't know when to have fear. Tomorrow I'll be going 'What was I thinking?' " ---- Jewel on wearing an eye popping, see through dress. The thing that bugs me about all the media cutting down jewel for wearing the dress, is that they find it innapropriate, even though Denis Rodman is on a cover of a magazine right now, wearing a skimpy female bikini. Why is it that they don't have any offence to that. Is it maybe because their jelous of the way Jewel can present herself. Plus Toni Braxton wore a pretty revealing dress at the music awards last month. Sorry for taking up the space, I just had to get this off my chest. Wojtek wojtekk@spanit.com "Ana NG and I are getting old and we still haven't walked in the glow of each others majestic presence" They Might Be Giants ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:15:50 +0000 From: Tom Morales Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different this is a great point. My wife is very self-conscious of her voice and she speaks as if she is British(ask Larry or Igor). Her hairdresser was from England and thought Nancy was too for a long time. Grrly1@aol.com wrote: . it seems that anytime jewel has to read a > monitor/Script/or teleprompter she speaks very slowly and cautiously, but > remember she has Dyslexia... so it probably takes her awhile to comprehend > the wods in her head before she can speak them...it comes out slowly and > delayed...kinda british sounding. And even though i dont have dyslexia and > have always been a good reader, when i have to make a presentation at > school...if i am reading off of a card I want to make sure everything comes > out right so i often end up sounding "british" too...(although i am half > british) but i dont normally speak that way...so um...this probably sounds > dumb...but i do think its because she has to comprehend the words in her head > (havent you seen her "act" in the wizard of oz?) since they hadnt rehersed > much everyone was reading off of their script which was right in front of > them the whole time...and you'll notice that jewel is speaking veerrry > slowly...kinda like a southern drawl...i found it cute though...and i love > the way she speaks when she is reading. > > okay...done.. > > Thirza ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 03:59:05 -0500 From: Dan Stark Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different SDF wrote: >I would rather see Jewel being Jewel too. But you didn't really think she >would wear jeans and flip the bird during the grammys, did you? No not at all, I simply meant that this is the sort of personality we have come to expect from Jewel. Obviously I would expect anyone attending such an event to dress up, but I don't like to see someone (especially someone I like) trying to be something they're not. > Jewel likes >to show off her sexuality or "sentuality" as she calls it. I found the dress >overly revealing and offensive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so they say. I personally think something less revealing, but still suggestive, would have been a lot more 'sensual', but others would obviously disagree. I didn't find it offensive, I was just disappointed to hear other people say she looked trashy, because that's completely opposite of what Jewel is all about. Dan - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK danstark@mnsi.net Windsor, Ontario, Canada - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 04:57:51 -0500 From: 2fishnet <2fishnet@concentric.net> Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different Dan Stark wrote: > > The other thing I found a little bothersome on the Grammys, believe it or > not, was Jewel's diction. Since when did she speak with a European accent? > I've always heard her speak with shallow vowels and strong 'R's, like any > American. I appreciate her wanting to come across as sophisticated and > well-educated, but I found myself cringing at an almost Bristish accent, > which I thought was way "put-on". > Dan, Jacqueline and I noticed that as well. It's not the first time either, if you watched the Wizard of Oz special, at times she does the same thing. It bugged me a little then, but even more so at the Grammys. At least the WoO was a 'performance'; unfortunately it seems that her presenting a Grammy was just a performance too. Oh well we all do strange things sometimes; maybe it was her way of dealing with the ignorance of the whole thing. Fish ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 05:34:22 EST From: bhartford3rd@juno.com (Bruce D Hartford III) Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different I've always been under the train of thought that clothing was only practical for protection, everything else is just aesthetic value. It's important now a days to wear something that might display, in more detail, the type of person you are. The only exception to that rule might be for entertainers who want to look like how people expect them to look as part of the whole entertaining ensemble. However, like Jewel, there are entertainers who try to sell their art by the quality of their art and not themselves. Entertainers like Jewel might try to set good examples for people and say things off the record like "hands manifest... something" to add to their persona, but in the end it is obviously the music that will do the talking. I won't lie or fake naivete and say Jewel wore what she wore because she wanted to show metaphorically how she really exposes her self in her music just as she exposed herself in the dress. I won't say that because it would be an assumption of her mind set (an assumption of her) based on her clothing. It's a real bad idea to assume things about a person based on trivial one time things. We all get in moods don't we? I would imagine Jewel would more so that any of us. Wouldn't you all agree she has an exceptional grasp of emotions? A grasp of herself? Wouldn't that ever tempt you to test yourself? Do things you might not ordinarily do? In a medium of immense proportions? I'm not assuming this is her thinking here, but would it be such a bad assumption? Unfortunately in the society most of us grew up in, our majority subjective view point on physical beauty relating to women is directed mostly to the youth. In other words, most people look better when they're younger and by contrast get worse by time. I'm not saying that this thinking is wrong or right I'm just saying this is the majority opinion. Well it is entirely within the realm of possibility that Jewel falls under the same line of thought. With that in mind Jewel's choice in dress might be simply that she wanted to show off what she has, while she has it. Boys and girls, if that's the case, ahem, that's ok. It happens to be a biological function of ours to think about sex every now and then. Granted, some more so than others, but contrary to popular belief, women think about it too. Jewel included. Thinking about sex can lead a person to do things that would be considered attractive to the opposite sex, i.e.(or is it e.g.? I always get them confused) wearing spiffy clothes. Does this mean Jewel is looking for a mate? Maybe, but probably not. Like I said before, it's a bad idea to speculate on someone's personality based on what they wear or other such things. Why am I doing it then? Because I'm honestly afraid people might start saying, "Jewel is a slut, did you see what she wore at the Grammy's?", or even, "It was in bad taste for Jewel to wear what she wore. I think she's changing for the worse." Jewel is not a slut because of what she wears, and there is not hardly enough evidence present to say she's a different women. Her accent? I'm with Thirza, it could have been a lot of things. Difficulty reading, nervousness. Like I said before maybe she just wanted to play around a little, see if she could still try daring things in front of an audience. But, by all means, to assume a personality change or a personality period, based on these things would be, in my opinion, a very bad idea. I won't say ignorant because it might sound condescending and rude. That is definitely not how I mean my points here. I'm just throwing in some ideas.... Passing by... Writing waaaaay too much. -Bruce bhartford3rd@juno.com PS This is a joke. I'm kidding myself if I think anyone will read this. I wouldn't even read this it's so damn long!...and kindof boring... :P ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 07:43:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "B.Good" Subject: VH1 Artist of the Month Hi all, Just a quick message. I had VH1 on this morning while reading my e-mail and guess who just happened to appear on the screen. That's right...it was Jewel. And guess what...she's this month's artist of the month! That means little interview clips almost hourly on vh1 along with the premiere (I assume) of Foolish Games and hopefully some more surprises too. She'll also be eligible for artist of the year in December and should have several specials dedicated to her then. Later, Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:10:51 -0500 (EST) From: LtjgMacC@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different Who made this Dress thing into a big deal anyway? I personally didn't see anything wrong with the dress or even notice anything until I heard all of the media hype and from what I've read here. After going back, sure it's noticable. Personally I found her dress more appropriate than waiting for half of the other women to "pop" out of theirs while they leaned into the mic. And while we're on the subject of Jewel's appearance, I guess I'm biased. I really like the woman. To me, she is one of the most beautiful creatures the powers that be put on this planet, and I don't really think her "looks" have anything to do with it. I was eating dinner the other day with my family, after watching my tape of the Grammy's, and just mumbled out of the blue, "beautiful, beautiful, beautiful." "What?" Came the reply. "Jewel" I said. "[some guy] at work said she looks homely" my dad said. My response to this came slowly after picturing Jewel in my mind. "Yeah, maybe. But I guess you just have to looks at the WHOLE picture. I love Jewel for her music, what she writes about, how she feels, the stories she tells, crooked teeth and all. To me Jewel is a very beautiful human being, and appearance is not even 1/10th of it." I guess you could say that halted the dinner discussion on Jewel. Anyway, I'll step off of the soapbox now. Sorry. Next speaker please. Mac ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:19:33 -0000 From: s181@redrose.net Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different Dan, I was really really surprised that their wasn't more of an uproar over her dress!!! Barry and Nick hollered that Jewel was on, so I came running to the TV.. frankly, I didn't hear her voice, I didn't hear what she was presenting. I took one quick glimpse at her face (determining that she looked stunning!). Mostly, I was picking my jaw up off the floor.. I was disappointed and embarrassed and I wanted to quick throw her a blanket!!! I even had a split second where I thought maybe she really wasn't aware that the bright lights would make her dress so (stealing Rich Melkos line.. ) .. so translucent. And Im not a stick in the mud.. I am not an old fuddy duddy.. I just couldn't help but be shocked. The same exposure on the beach would not have seemed shocking to me. I just HAVE to slip in here.. Barry and Nick had some nudges going on between them. You know.. ogling her breasts and father/son bonding. And gosh, how could they help buy ogle! I was ogling too, ferchrissake. Selena, " omigod omigod omigod.. you can see right through her dress!!" Barry & Nick, "yeah!" Selena, "omigod, the shits gonna hit the fan" Barry and Nick : oggle oggle oggle Selena, "holy cow! WHY is she wearing that?!!" Barry and Nick.. nudge nudge Selena, " omigod! Does she KNOW that you can see right through that?!!" Barry, "she doesnt have a bra on" Selena, " omigod, you can see right through her dress!!!" I agree with Dan. Why would she want this sort of attention? On Tv?!! It's not like it is just her adoring fans that were watching.. Frankly, I thought it was tacky. Although, I defend her right to wear it, and it doesnt change my love for her music. I have always seperated Jewel as a person from Jewel as an entertainer. I love Jewel's music, her songwriting... I've never felt that I know her as a person, as opposed to the public Jewel, the entertainer, that we are allowed to see. I think I have a point here. Her dress and even up to a certain point, her behaviour, (I wont put bread and butter on her table if I feel she is rascist, or supporting of violence..etc.. ) really doesnt change my love for her music. I will continue to love and to share her music. Selena, "holy shit you can see right through her dress!!!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) From: Splugorth@aol.com Subject: Valentines Day (was:: Who cares anymore?) In a message dated 97-02-28 18:36:00 EST, johncher@epix.net (chrissie) writes: << me too...i love this :) valentines day is an overcommercailized piece of plastic.. just like christmas..no longer is it about romance.. its about how many characher cards and candy hearts we can buy >> Just like anything Valentine's Day is what you make of it. It's the people that commercialize it; if no one wanted to buy the cards and the candy hearts they would disappear from the shelves. I admit I get an upset stomach when I go into a store and I see gifts and candy for the next holiday (case in point: easter stuff is up); but no one is forcing you to buy the crap. I still think that Valentine's Day can be about love. Tony T. Splugorth@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:57:43 -0600 From: krishan@pc.jaring.my (Subashini) Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different >Hi, > >I was going to say nothing about this, but hey, it's the Jewel list so I >think I should bring it up. First of all, I don't know if I can jump on the >bandwagon with everone who liked Jewel's dress. Oh sure, I drooled as much >as the rest of the guys at the chance to see more of Jewel than ever before! >And I realize she was wearing an expensive, designer dress that some of the >top models in the world have probably been paid to model on the catwalk. >But while Jewel is obviously beautiful and worthy of such risqe, high >fashion, I know there are a lot of people who took it the wrong way. I >heard several people the next day, saying they thought Jewel looked >"slutty", which is certainly not the image Jewel needs, or may want to >portray for herself. Then again, as the sayings go, "sex sells", and "no >publicity is bad publicity." If these hold true, then Jewel certainly had a >lot of people talking about her the next day who may otherwise have remained >uniterested. > >The other thing I found a little bothersome on the Grammys, believe it or >not, was Jewel's diction. Since when did she speak with a European accent? >I've always heard her speak with shallow vowels and strong 'R's, like any >American. I appreciate her wanting to come across as sophisticated and >well-educated, but I found myself cringing at an almost Bristish accent, >which I thought was way "put-on". > >Jewel is clearly very concious of her public image these days, and I think >she's starting to do things that aren't "really her", in an attempt to >appeal to some kind of 'target audience'. I wish she wouldn't. One of the >things that I found so attractive in her in the first pace was her honest, >down-to-earth-ness. There are many artists who succeed very well by being >exactly who they are. I'd rather see Jewel flip us the bird in jeans & a >t-shirt any day, instead of addressing America with a British accent in a >see-through dress. Just my opinion, unpopular as it may be here... > >By the way, I have always believed the Grammys are some of the most >pedestrian crap in the music industry, and I'm happy enough that Jewel >wasn't placed alongside the likes of such pablum as David Foster and Celine >Dion in winning an award. Hopefully the loss means there is now less reason >to delay the release of the new album. > >ttyl! >Dan I don't think you should worry, cause people who call anyone "slutty" are not worth listening to anyway. Subash ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:03:55 -0500 (EST) From: Splugorth@aol.com Subject: Re: Dare To Be Different In a message dated 97-03-01 02:19:19 EST, danstark@MNSi.Net (Dan Stark) writes: << By the way, I have always believed the Grammys are some of the most pedestrian crap in the music industry, and I'm happy enough that Jewel >> For what it's worth I agree with you on all of your points. Except for the british accent, I didn't notice. Too busy looking at/through the dress? At any rate I thought the dress was horrible. (IMHO) There's still hope at the Blockbuster Awards though...... Tony T. Splugorth@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:08:27 -0600 From: "Anthony P. Pego" Subject: hiya and howdy from okc Well.. hmmm.. maybe this is nieve.. but I've been out of the jewel/computer scene for a while.. and now I'm wondering (and crossing my fingers) if Jewel will ever come to Oklahoma.. anyone heard any rumors? Maybe I'm dreaming.. sheesh. Thanks. - -Pego ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 10:19:27 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: Jewel on AOL on 3/10? What about the concert? At 08:32 AM 3/1/97 -0500, CWATKINS@aol.com wrote: >Jewel Kilcher will be chatting with her fans in the MTV Arena on Monday March >10 @ 8 p.m. (ET) (keyword: mtvarena). Most of her fans just know her as >Jewel, and they probably don't know about her upbringing as a Mormon >yodeller. Well, I'm officially confused, she has a concert scheduled that night in Washington DC. (Yeah, it's at the "9:30 Club"...is that a literally named venue? Shows at 9:30???) Anyone in the D.C. area know? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 10:34:30 -0500 (EST) From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Beacon show 3/2 info For those attending the Beacon show on 3/2 and meeting with us at the Mad Fish here's some last minute information for meeting up or identifing us. Eric, Rob and I will be catching a train into Penn Station. We expect to be in Penn Station around 4:30pm. Anyone who wishes to meet with us there, let us know soon as possible. We will then be taking a cab to the Mad Fish.... putting us there just before 5:00pm. The reservations are under Campbell. (Believe me they know about us.) Rob will probably have a blue ribbon attached to his leather backpack, and I plan to have one in my hair. We figure dinner to take 60 - 90 minutes, putting us at the venue around 6:30pm to gather. Speaking of the Mad Fish, they called slightly concerned about the large number of concert goers taking over their establishment. : ) I reassured them that "Angels" are the nicest, most polite people in the world. They also didn't want a group of people coming in ordering a coke with eighteen straws. We agreed to them that we would once again assume our official "EDA den parent" role, but I know how EDA's are, and know there won't be any problems. If anyone has any last minute plan changes please let me know. I'll be checking mail up to 2:30pm on Sunday. Can't wait to meet everyone, and see old time EDAs again!!!!!!! Tammy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 08:30:17 -0500 (EST) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: Re: Top Ten: [annoyed look] > Love is a Rose is a cover??? Who's? i don't think anyone answered this yet. the song is a Neil Young original peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:54:24 -0500 From: "Will, Prince of Insufficient Light" Subject: Jewel Page #12 If you've tried to access Jewel Page #12 recently, you'll find that it's not there.Apparently Access Orlando is having problems with web pages at the moment, and I can't seem to be able to FTP to my site. I will upload everything again when I can. ~~~~~~~~~ W. Chinda wc81@ao.net http://www.ao.net/~wc81 A list of recommended DTP colleges/universities would be much appreciated (W3 addy if possible). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 03:21:18 -0500 (EST) From: CWATKINS@aol.com Subject: JC: Electronic Media: Jewel in MTV arena on AOL The time and date is below, along with some odd information that I''ve never heard before. She was adopted by an American Indian family? The rest was standard fare. Jewel Kilcher will be chatting with her fans in the MTV Arena on Monday March 10 @ 8 p.m. (ET) (keyword: mtvarena). Most of her fans just know her as Jewel, and they probably don't know about her upbringing as a Mormon yodeller. Born and raised on the Alaskan tundra, this Swiss descendent was raised as a Mormon up until the age of eight. At 14, she was adopted by an American Indian family. It was this family who told her to "learn to speak with [her] heart, because one day [she'd] be speaking to the world." Chopped Liver ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:04:03 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: jewel in the Toronto Sun >the dress, is that they find it innapropriate, even though Denis Rodman is >on a cover of a magazine right now, wearing a skimpy female bikini. Why is >it that they don't have any offence to that. Caus it's Denis Rodman. People expect Rodman to be outragous and wild. That is just way he has always portrayed himself and that is how we see him. However, we are not use to seeing Jewel in a sheer dress. Thus the press will go after her and ignor Rodmean because that is nothing new for him, but this IS somthing new form Jewel. - -Ashe Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) From: GCove76082@aol.com Subject: ENOUGH ABOUT THE DRESS OK, I'm new to the EDA's so bear with me. Now why is everybody talking about Jewel's dress, big deal. For all I care she could walk out naked and I would still be listning to what she had to say even if she was presenting some stupid award. We're all captivated by her, she has an unexplainable aura and I think you would all agree with me. Get past all these material things like dresses and make-up. You know she does'nt have the burden of making just her fans happy, she also has to make all those industry and record label people happy too. She;s not a sell out and she's not a slut in my eyes and I think you should give her a break. Sorry if I was a little loud. Gian.C.(proud to be an EDA.) GCove76082@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:09:32 EST From: tiltedhalo@juno.com (Tom Harris) Subject: NJC: EDA Birthday Announcements for March * * * * * I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ @ @ Everyday Angels @ @ @ @___________________________________________________________________@ @ @ @ Birthday Announcements @ @ @ @___________________________________________________________________@ @ @ @ for @ @ March @ @ @ @%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%@ 3/1 - COREY R RIES (ZUUL) 3/2 - Tom O'Brien 3/4 - Jake DeLorey (Flaco) 3/5 - Steve Salomon (Jedi Knight) 3/10 - Tien Dang 3/10 - Tegan Godwin 3/17 - Bryon Betts 3/17 - Bill McCormack 3/17 - Anthony Trudeau -- Another year older! 3/17 - It's more than St. Patrick's Day; It's Adam's Birthday! 3/19 - Johann Carlos Torres (Jano) 3/21 - Robert Putney (M.D.) 3/27 - David Handoga - ---/- hmm... St. Patty's Day looks busy! Sorry I got this out late guys; belated wishes to Zuul. Now, some of you may notice that Adam and Anthony have a little fancier greeting, and that's because they told me to. If you want to say something extra -- and if you want your e-mail address to appear, you have to tell me. I'm getting a great response from hooking up with Gerrit and the EDA Yearbook, but you still have to mail me directly to customize your announcement. - ---/- As always, you may add your birthday to the list by making an entry in the EDA Yearbook at . Or e-mail me, . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:45:53 -0500 From: hite.23@osu.edu (Brian Hite) Subject: Re: NJC: Sunny Days............. >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:11:17 -0500 (EST) >From: AESTHETE99@aol.com >Subject: NJC: Sunny Days............. >I left work early today in anticipation of a great weekend. It was warm >outside and I rolled my windows down during the drive home. I could smell >the earth softening again as spring approached early and I was flooded >suddenly with memories of last summer. In response to this, I popped in my >copy of Jewelstock and heard the beginning of "Memoirs of a Housewife" (my >current favorite Jewel song as it reveals a lovely peverse complexity). The >sun shone on my face as I drove down the highway and I felt free >again............ Hey does anybody know if there are still copies of this tape floating around out there? I was unable to attend Jewelstock last summer, and later dropped off the list. If anyone is willing, I would gladly send a blank tape, postage, whatever, to get a dupe. Thanks for your assistance. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:47:52 -0500 From: sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz) Subject: Concert This is my first day on this list, but I thought that I'd send a few words about the Jewel concert last night at Colby College. I have never seen Jewel in concert before and I must say, it was INCREDIBLE!! I have never been to a concert (and I've been to many) which got the crowd so emotionally involved with the music and the performer. I know that I was not the only one who almost broke into tears during Foolish Games. It was amazing. She also brought her father up on stage and they yodeled together. That was fun to listen to. She is just an incredible woman. /> / / Stephen (//////[0]>=====================================- \ \ Horowitz \> "It isn't important to come out on top. What matters is to be the one who comes out alive." -Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 12:54:48 -0500 From: sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz) Subject: Jewelstock Tape >Hey does anybody know if there are still copies of this tape floating >around out there? I was unable to attend Jewelstock last summer, and later >dropped off the list. If anyone is willing, I would gladly send a blank >tape, postage, whatever, to get a dupe. Thanks for your assistance. Ditto this for me too. Steve /> / / Stephen (//////[0]>=====================================- \ \ Horowitz \> "It isn't important to come out on top. What matters is to be the one who comes out alive." -Bertolt Brecht ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #141 ***************************