From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #136 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Thursday, February 27 1997 Volume 02 : Number 136 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Grammy reactions... [jdfree@students.wisc.edu (Joshua Free)] sjc: good news! [Billy ] rolling stone [Gregory Willms ] grammys [Paul Tumolo ] Re: Top Ten - Talents and Potentials [Fons Taddic ] Grammy interview footage? [j hunter ] Re: Grammy reactions... ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] JC~Damn~~~Could have got backstage passes to Beacon:( [AmbroInc1@aol.com] Jewel is loved in the Pacific Northwest [howenow@imagen.net (Adrian Duple] Re: SJC This is ridiculous.. [Fons Taddic ] Re: jewel-digest V2 #135 [toweringsis@juno.com (Shelly L Cook)] Local News story/Java Joes [Raymond Wong ] the dress [Paul Tumolo ] NJC, Well kind of...Grammy's - I see it differently I guess (fwd) ["Mark ] Musicology (wuz: Re: sjc: good news!) [Jeffrey Miller ] Re: Top Ten - Talents and Potentials [Jeffrey Miller ] Rhode Island Tickets [SDAngelLI@aol.com] JC: Jewel mentioned on 93.3 FLZ [DavidH304@aol.com] Re: jewel-digest V2 #133 [NoraG1@aol.com] Re: Top Ten - Talents and Potentials [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Re: SJC This is ridiculous.. [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] NJC: I hear a rumor... [Sinjin ] sjc: boston.com [Bill ] NJC:*sigh* here we go again... [Derrick Chhay ] the grammys [Derrick Chhay ] Jewel's Wardrobe / Inside Edition ["Andrew Fu" ] art anyone???? [Derrick Chhay ] LA Ticket Info!! [Steve ] SARAN WRAP! ["Paul Ehresmann" ] Re: jewel-digest V2 #133 [Matt Willcourt ] on jewel snub [Ringokid23@aol.com] Daddies [Emilia Garvey ] SJC: Re:Top Ten Grammy List [BillYeh@aol.com] Re: Top Ten: [annoyed look] [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] Re: top ten list [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] Colby Show! Please Read! [John ] Concert!!! [Yvonne Plante ] grammy reactions... [piper@mclv.net] Re: Top Ten (annoyed look) [Fons Taddic ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:41:56 -0600 From: jdfree@students.wisc.edu (Joshua Free) Subject: Re: Grammy reactions... >>>right? I take comfort in the fact that.... Can anyone tell me who won that >>>catagory LAST year? And while I'm not saying that they aren't good, Where are >>>they now? >> >> >> Sheryl Crow right? I could be wrong (i didn't watch any of the show >>last year :]), but I think that was it. And where is she now? Ohhhhhh, just >>doing well selling her second CD and winning two Grammy's for it is all :]. >> >Sheryl Crow won 2 years ago (I think) and Hootie and the Blowfish won last year. Hootie had a bit of a slump with their second album but Sheryl Crow is doing quite well again. > >Joshua Free > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:03:57 -0500 From: Billy Subject: sjc: good news! well, i know many of you are upset with last night's outcome, and some are also glad. but for those of you who are blazin' pissed, i have noticed some cool things about the awards... _______________________________________________________ 1. if you detest miss rimes, don't fear. since she's won the best new artist grammie, we'll never hear from her again (like so many of the past winners...although not all). 2. jewel will now go on to a multitude of accomplishments in the next 20 to 30 years, thereby exposing the grammie voters for the dolts that they are. 3. miss kilcher also endowed some angelic light on her fans even though she didn't win an award or perform (she wore that fantastic dress!). ____________________________________________________________ that's about all. did anyone else flip channels during some of the less interesting moments to watch "ellen?" i noticed that for last night's episode, her grandmother was visiting and she referred to her as "grammy." mere coincidence? i think not. and how about that tap dance routine!!! holly lemon-lime monkey hair! i felt like i was watching a friggin' movie! those folks were amazing! another question: is it just me, or did anyone else think that sheryl crow won best rock album because the voters thought if she didn't win, they'd all look like idiots (they are) because they voted her best new artist awhile back? granted, her second album rocks, and she's a hell of a performer, but the competition in that category was just way above her head, imho. i guess i only have one serious issue: Ronald Lazo wrote: > And Toni Braxton definetly should > have won over Jewel. Toni's got more influence in the music industry. what the hell should "influence in the music industry" have to do with winning an award based on your musical talent? unless of course, you were implying that the voters can be corrupted by something other than said talent. otherwise, just because she's got more influence, that shouldn't determine who deserves the damn record player. one more upsetting thing: did everyone see that of all the nominees for song of the year, including the winner(s), tracy chapman was the only one who wrote her own song (and it was written years ago)? granted, song writers that can't sing should be rewarded, but singing your own song in a catagory like this should display the talent that deserves the award. just another reason to avoid these stupid awards shows. and did you see the multitude of producers for celine dion? anybody who needs that many people to tell her how to sing should stick to the lounge shows. great voice, but it seems like there's no soul in her music. and cripes, why couldn't she just thank them collectively? "get off the stage." notice how the music ran out while she kept talking? sorry if this is long and njc-ish. i just gotta vent. jeez, i feel like andy rooney. "did ya ever notice..." yo no voy, sweet earth boy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:20:48 -0500 (EST) From: Gregory Willms Subject: rolling stone jewel, jewel, and more jewel. in the latest rolling stone with haward stern on the front, i found a nice surprise. theres a small tidbit about how jewel and a few other... don henley included, are lobbying to keep VH-1 and MTV programmed into TCI cable, the nations leading cable provider. apparently, theyre a little strapped for funds and are considering dropping VH1 and MTV for some newcomers who are willing to pay large amounts to get exposed. channels like fox news, and discoverys animal planet. and then i turn a few pages, past the obnoxious BMG insert, and what do i see? a nice half-page picture of jewel, a picture ive never seen, and a little promotion for her album. the text is as follows... "honest. simple. human. Jewel pieces of you featuring the smash hits 'who will save your soul', and 'you were meant for me'. double grammy award nominee. american music award winner (favorite new artist pop/rock. approaching 3 million albums sold" there you have it. and im not even a quarter of the way though the magazine! :) - -greg - ---------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/broadway/2606 | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "And now you are and I am now and we're a mystery which will never happen again." -- E.E. Cummings - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Every time she sneezes I believe it's love." -- Adam Duritz - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Let me have music dying, and I seek no more delight." -- John Keats - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Tumolo Subject: grammys don't dismay, edas. the grammys are best known for not having awarded jimmy hendrix a grammy while he was alive. many, many big artists from the 60s, people who redefined music as we know it toady, were never awarded during their prime. (on the other hand, milli vanilli did win a grammy) as for the 'best new artist' award, its best know for going to artist who fade from the scene as fast as lizard sweat in the desert- and are never heard from again. and we know that's not going to happen to jewel. - -paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:29:09 -0600 (CST) From: Fons Taddic Subject: Re: Top Ten - Talents and Potentials > I hope that Jewel doesn't get discouraged - even things we try not to > care about can get built up in our minds until they do become important. I doubt it. It's obvious that she's above all this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:26:13 -0600 From: j hunter Subject: Grammy interview footage? OK for all of you Jewel tape collectors out there: Was anyone able to tape any pre or post Grammy interview footage of Jewel that may have been broadcast on other channels? I've heard that there was stuff on MTV and VH1 but since I don't have cable I can't confirm that. Nontheless if it does exist as well as other stuff I would be VERY interested in trading some of my footage, sending a blank, sending $$$, whatever you feel is a proper exchange for your trouble. I would prefer to get it from someone who taped their copy directly from the TV please as I'm trying to get the possible quality footage for a compilation tape that my friend is making. Unfortunately, neither of us have access to cable or satellite channels. If you can help please e-mail me at hunterj@erols.com. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:41:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: Re: Grammy reactions... No, Hootie and the Blowfish won last year. Sheryl Crow won two years ago. They announced that at the show. And, depending on how you look at it, Hootie had two of the top twenty selling cd's of 1996 out at the same time, or they suffered a horribly sophomore slump. > Sheryl Crow right? I could be wrong (i didn't watch any of the show > last year :]), but I think that was it. And where is she now? Ohhhhhh, just > doing well selling her second CD and winning two Grammy's for it is all :]. > - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "This is my third comatose client. I'm starting a vegetable garden!" -- Douglas Wambaugh, Picket Fences ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:42:11 -0500 (EST) From: AmbroInc1@aol.com Subject: JC~Damn~~~Could have got backstage passes to Beacon:( AAHHH!!! I am so mad.....on Z100 just now they gave away 2 tickets to see Jewel at the Beacon and also to hang with her backstage after the concert......I tried and was caller 77 only 23 away from 100:( That would have been great if I could go hang with Jewel backstage.....that is all I ask for.....just to have a conversation with her......just to let her know I am a fan of her and her music!!!! Anyway....did anyone else try to be caller 100....the girl that won was named Mary.....I wonder if she is an EDA......you there Mary....wanna take me:) Well, that's all for now......AmBrO ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:44:12 -0800 From: howenow@imagen.net (Adrian Duplessis) Subject: Jewel is loved in the Pacific Northwest Jewel's shows in Seattle (March 28, Paramount Theatre) and Vancouver (March 29, Massey Theatre) have both sold out (and tickets have been on sale for only a short time). So, if you've got tickets, have a great time. Jewel's recognized and loved, and she'll always be a "new" artist as she lives her dream. Stay positive, gang. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:42:50 -0600 (CST) From: Fons Taddic Subject: Re: SJC This is ridiculous.. On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Laura Tonn wrote: > So Jewel didn't win at the Grammy's. So what. Is everyone missing the > meaning of her songs and her life. She is not about competition. I > agree with Dan. I am sure that she is not as upset as we are. Yes, we > adore her and respect her but in doing so, we should understand that she > is not about money or awards. Her talent is something that few > understand and the few that do know that understand that Jewel's goals > don't include winning awards. I am sure that she respects Leann Rimes as > well. They both share a gift. Each express it in different forms. To > us, Jewels lyrics and vocal abilities touch our hearts. Out of > appreciation for Jewel and the reason she sings, we should not be angry > that she didn't win. We should show continuing support for her and stop > the anger. We all love Jewel so lets show her. > > Laura Well said. I'm happy that there are others on the list that recognize how silly being angry about this is. Jewel will still write music and perform, simply because it's what she likes to do- same as LeAnn. Both will bring alot of happiness to alot of people, and in my opinion, that's more of a tribute to Jewel than any award. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:45:07 EST From: toweringsis@juno.com (Shelly L Cook) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #135 Triple T= What's up G funk? I'm off to Vegas. Have a great weekend, be careful and make sure you log all the details!! I'll be back @7:00 am on Monday, then I have an 8:00 class! I'll try to call you! Love you- Shelly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:47:12 -0800 (PST) From: Raymond Wong Subject: Local News story/Java Joes Hi angels, sorry if this is sorta vague, and if it's been covered already, but I don't remember reading it in the FAQ... After the Grammies last night, a local San Diego TV station did a story on Jewel... They went to Java Joes, talk to (Joe?), and said something to the effect of her having started there. Joe made some reference to 6 years ago, too... Was Java Joes around back in the Innerchange Days, or is there some connection between the 2? Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@best.com, negativl@netcom.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:56:50 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Tumolo Subject: the dress well, i didn't see the grammy (i was working), but i thought i'd throw in a little factoid. most of you are too young to remember, and i doubt anyone ever told you, but there was a time, not too long ago, that secretaries and other women working in offices in big cities (mostly new york) wore see thru tops to the office- routinely. i didn't see the jewel dress, but i can say that it would be hard for her dress to beat the level of "revealing" that some women wore to the office 28 years ago. times change, styles change- but the human body remains a work of art. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:54:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: NJC, Well kind of...Grammy's - I see it differently I guess (fwd) > After sifting through the mess of Grammy comments, I have a question. > Does anybody watch the music award shows to just hear the music? Each YES!!! I'd be lying if I said I didn't care who won, but the performances are what bring me there. And last night there was quite a few good ones. Eric Clapton's was rather weak, though. But next came Celine Dion's surprisingly nice version of "All By Myself". It was pretty erratic (why did she take the long walk down those stairs in the middle of it? I thought that was melodramatic), but the highlights were powerfully done. I'd never had any respect for her before, but she really threw herself into that song... she was nearly crying. Great voice, too. I'm a No Doubt fan for the most part (saw them live; they were great), but I agree with those who said this performance was lackluster. Maybe I'm just sick of them. The next performance I remember was Tracy Chapman's soulful reading of "Give Me One Reason", my favorite song of 1996. Tracy's a once-in-lifetime-performer, in my opinion, and she did a great job as usual. The harmonica backing was nice. Bruce Springsteen's performance was subdued, but very moving. The lighting was also memorable... like stars behind him. But, yeah, I thought many of the performances were very good. - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "This is my third comatose client. I'm starting a vegetable garden!" -- Douglas Wambaugh, Picket Fences ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:00:30 -0800 From: Jeffrey Miller Subject: Musicology (wuz: Re: sjc: good news!) Billy wrote: > 1. if you detest miss rimes, don't fear. since she's won the best new > artist grammie, we'll never hear from her again (like so many of the > past winners...although not all). "Tonight, on 'Where Are They Now,' a look back at 'Leanne Rimes,' who is currently working on this horse ranch with the boys from 'Milli Vinilli.' This ranch, the Flash-in-the-Pan Corral, is owned by Darius Rucker, one-time front-man for 'Hootie and the Blowfish'" > 2. jewel will now go on to a multitude of accomplishments in the next 20 > to 30 years, thereby exposing the grammie voters for the dolts that they > are. Sort of a Joan Baez kind of career track? > 3. miss kilcher also endowed some angelic light on her fans even though > she didn't win an award or perform (she wore that fantastic dress!). I just _had_ to skip the grammy's, didn't I :( ;-) > and how about that tap dance routine!!! holly lemon-lime monkey hair! > i felt like i was watching a friggin' movie! those folks were amazing! > The 'Riverdance' routine? There was another Grammy-sure-shot - that Riverdance would win best musical album.. gee, who would've guessed. Speaking of celtic dancing, I just did a show for Cherish the Ladies, an all-women celtic band that's on tour right now with 2-3 step-dancers.. pretty neat stuff. > > And Toni Braxton definetly should > > have won over Jewel. Toni's got more influence in the music industry. > > what the hell should "influence in the music industry" have to do with > winning an award based on your musical talent? unless of course, you > were implying that the voters can be corrupted by something other than > said talent. otherwise, just because she's got more influence, that > shouldn't determine who deserves the damn record player. Well, its generally known that many, many of these award ceremonies are, well, not rigged so much as they are industry love-fests. Although many, many of these awards ARE based on merit, if it comes down to a person who has some influence on you and a relative no-body, who's going to get the award..? > sorry if this is long and njc-ish. i just gotta vent. jeez, i feel > like andy rooney. > > "did ya ever notice..." hehe - there's an interview I'd LOVE to see.. ANDY: "So Jewel, what do you mean by 'hands Manifest Thought' - I mean, what's it all about?" - -Jeffrey- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:02:25 -0800 From: Jeffrey Miller Subject: Re: Top Ten - Talents and Potentials Fons Taddic wrote: > > > I hope that Jewel doesn't get discouraged - even things we try not to > > care about can get built up in our minds until they do become important. > > I doubt it. It's obvious that she's above all this. Oh - I didn't realize that we'd heard Jewel say _anything_ about how she felt about the Grammy's last nite. It should have been sooo obvious to me. - -J- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:08:06 -0500 (EST) From: SDAngelLI@aol.com Subject: Rhode Island Tickets I am currently getting in touch with as many people as possible from Providence college to acquire RI tickets. I need to get a head count on who needs them and how many. I am offering $40 for them and people are responding This is not a lot considered that most other venues are going at $25-$30. But it seems college kids will either settle for minimal profit or are able to get tickets for low prices. If you interested in tickets at this price or possibly more please replay to ASAP. SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:14:12 -0500 (EST) From: DavidH304@aol.com Subject: JC: Jewel mentioned on 93.3 FLZ Jewel was mentioned on 93.3 FLZ (The new music revolution) in Tampa, FL this morning. It was at about 10:00 a.m. The talked about her dress and the lack of coverage. It was mentioned on the MJ and BJ show. BJ Harris said he didn't think you could see her breasts too much. The other host MJ Kelly said you could. They argued and took calls to decide the argument. They took about 10 callers. The opinion was the dress was way to see through. Host MJ Kelly stated that it looked "slutty" and "she knew what she was doing." Host BJ Harris stated her dress looked a little see through but was acceptable. I managed to get through to the station with in the hour. I did not get to talk to the hosts but did talk to an inter that occasionally appears on the show, "Froggy". Froggy was convienced Jewel was "hot" and stated "She should get her teeth fixed." Needless to say I didn't get through to the hosts because I went off on this pinhead-moron. David " the tranquilizer" Handoga ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:22:23 -0500 (EST) From: NoraG1@aol.com Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #133 How could Leann Rimes win Best New Artist! Does anyone besides me think that the Grammy awards should be called the country awards? I hate Country! Jewel should have won! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:27:44 +0000 () From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: Top Ten - Talents and Potentials On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Jeffrey Miller wrote: > Fons Taddic wrote: > > > > > I hope that Jewel doesn't get discouraged - even things we try not to > > > care about can get built up in our minds until they do become important. > > > > I doubt it. It's obvious that she's above all this. > > Oh - I didn't realize that we'd heard Jewel say _anything_ about how she > felt about the Grammy's last nite. It should have been sooo obvious to > me. On the pre-Grammys interview, Jewel did say that the whole fact she was nominated came as a surprise, it wasn't anything she was counting on and didn't even think she'd get nominated. Finally she said that she'd be happy for anyone who won. She's very gracious and a great sport. ^_^ The quote for what she said will hopefully be up Friday in QT form. The text is already up. Albert bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel QT and Quotations http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:27:32 -0600 (CST) From: JeLeNe Subject: NJC:Gwen in No Doubt I was just curious about something......Of course I was watching the Grammy's last night and saw No Doubt perform. We all know that Gwen is a very skinny woman but last night I could have sworn that it looked like she has gained a few... Later that night I was talking to my boyfriend and he had said that there is rumor going around that Gwen is pregnant by the lead singer of Bush (Gavin ?? sorry if I butchered his name). Is this true or was my boyfriend just pullin' my leg? He likes to do that sometimes so I figured what else could I do except ask my fellow EDA's for some input. Thanks, - -Jelene :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:30:25 +0000 () From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: SJC This is ridiculous.. > > Well said. I'm happy that there are others on the list that recognize how > silly being angry about this is. Jewel will still write music and perform, > simply because it's what she likes to do- same as LeAnn. Both will > bring alot of happiness to alot of people, and in my opinion, that's > more of a tribute to Jewel than any award. Amen to that. ^_^ Albert bahamude@user1.channel1.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:03:25 -0500 (EST) From: Leave the shadows dancing Subject: NJC: Spring Break! Hey everyone! I am leaving for Spring Break tommorrow morning after taking a final and turning in a term paper. I just finished my term paper, but tonight I need to 1) copy more tapes, 2) pack for the trip, and 3) study for my final! So I just turned off forwarding of all mail from the list. So I won't be reading anything fer at least a week now. :P Wojteck, up near Toronto, was nice enough to let me leave my car at his place even tho it's quite a distance. Hopefully the Jewel tapes will help make up for it. ;) (Thank you!) I'm sorry to anyone who sent in tapes to me for copying. I am quite behind. On Monday I sent out 8 packages and today 4 more went out. I still have a pile of them next to my tape player, but that's what happens when you put school ahead of copying tapes. ;P (Mia, Todd, Andy, and Mike's tapes went out today) So I'll be in California for the week where Jewel plays in Toronto and at other places I could easily drive to to see her. :P Go fig.. (I'm just thankful I got to see her in freezing Geneseo! 13 degrees out!) Gerrit - -- "Mewling, puking babies. That's how we all start." - Jean Shepard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:26:46 -0500 From: chrissie Subject: Re: Top Ten (annoyed look) > You'd deny a Grammy to Celine Dion? > uh yessiree.. she makes me nauseous i n fact when she won for album of the year over beck and the pumkins i nerly died...odelay and mellon collie were works of genius... i would never define any of miss dion's work as anything other than sappy, radio-friendly garbage. chrissie "what's that say about you..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:38:27 -0800 From: Sinjin Subject: NJC: I hear a rumor... I haven't verified it yet, but I hear that LeAnne Rimes is just her stage name, and her real name is actually LeAnne Harris! Sinjin, HAHA Secretary of Defense ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:23:13 -0500 From: Bill Subject: sjc: boston.com everyone visit the site "www.boston.com" as soon as possible. i think you'll like what you see... yo no voy, sweet earth boy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:55:04 -0800 From: Derrick Chhay Subject: NJC:*sigh* here we go again... okay, i KNOW i said i wouldn't mention this anymore...but i PROMISE this is the last time. i thought about it, and thought about it, and thought about it even more...and thirza, if you're reading this, i'm sorry. i'm sorry for holding a grudge, i'm sorry for trying to ruin your reputation, i'm sorry for all the yelling, i'm sorry for letting everyone else know about this, and i'm just sorry for everything. it's just hard for me to accept the fact that maybe you really aren't the one for me...and that maybe we really aren't meant for each other like we used to say. it's gonna take me a LONG time to accept that, but i'm trying. so if you forgive me, i REALLY wanna try and be friends again. if you don't, i don't blame you. i've been acting like such a jerk and an asshole, who WOULD wanna be friends with me??? so i'm making this public apology to show that i'm not afraid to admit that i was wrong. i mean, we're all humans, we make mistakes. believe it or not, even JEWEL can make a mistake every now and then(but i'm saying that against my own will becuz...well..she just seems so perfect!!!). well, that's all i have to say...i'm done. you can all get on with your happy lives while i try and figure out what the hell went wrong with mine. talk to ya'll later alligator! CrIcKeT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:01:35 -0800 From: Derrick Chhay Subject: the grammys hey everyone! i'm hearing a lot about jewel and how good she looked. wait, let me rephrase that...how PERFECT she looked is more like it! *drooling* okay, here's a little flashback to when i was watching last night..... "lalalalalalala....omigod, it's jewel, it's jewel!!! look at what she's wearing!!! omigod, omigod, omi..."*PLOP**faints* thank you, thank you...so do you think i could get an academy nomination for that little performance? CrIcKeT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:01:08 +0000 From: "Andrew Fu" Subject: Jewel's Wardrobe / Inside Edition Well, Inside Edition did a little Grammy fashion segment. They had some old guy give his opinions in such. Jewel was mentioned under the worst dressed - "Jewel wore a see-through tragedy. Was that a slip or a slip in fashion taste." They said Toni Braxton and Celene Dion were in tune with the fashion world... figures... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:10:55 -0800 From: Derrick Chhay Subject: art anyone???? is there anyone out there who is an artist like me? i'm not trying to sound self-centered...it's just what i've heard from other people. anyways, if there are any artists out there, i would LOVE to see some of your artwork!!! especially if it's drawings or paintings of jewel! whenever i try to draw her, the eyes always get messed up somehow and it ruins the whole picture! well actually, i'm doing this one picture of her for my sketchbook assignment at school, and she actually looks pretty good...well, becuz her eyes are closed. oh well. oh, if anyone wants any kind of pictures from me, i would LOVE to send some to you. i just never ever get the chance to show any of my art to anyone! i feel so...so.... unrecognized! =*( CrIcKeT "PeaceLoveLife"-FB ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:36:12 -0800 From: Steve Subject: LA Ticket Info!! Tickets for the shows at the Wiltern April 2/3 are going on sale this Saturday starting at 9:00AM at the usual TicketMonster (TicketBastard) outlets. You can get convience charge-free tickets at the TM outlet (on Hollywood Blvd.) starting at 10:00AM. And if you are in the SoCal Area, listen to 107.1 to win tickets (or so they say). Steve T. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:56:06 From: "Paul Ehresmann" Subject: SARAN WRAP! Was it just me, or was Jewel's dress made of saran wrap? What a gal. I'm glad I got it on tape. Maybe that's how she stays so darn fresh! Isn't she swell? To top it off, I had a dream last night that she was in my kitchen, and I was making a dress out of -you guessed it- Saran wrap! Go figure. ~~Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Willcourt Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #133 I must say I was a little disappointed that Jewel lost, especially the Best New Artist Grammy, but it really doesn't matter. I don't think a trophy is needed to legitimize Jewel's talent. Everyone on here has recognized her abilities, and I doubt we will change our views. We shouldn't need a large committee's affirmation of her talent to still appreciate it. And although it is disappointing to see others failing to give her credit she deserves, Jewel's singing and songwriting ability won't wane as a result of being passed over. For those who needed to see Jewel win the award before they took her seriously as an artist, well it's their loss and they'll have to wait to learn what we already know. But Jewel is still Jewel. I have never heard LeAnn Rimes sing, but I have heard people talk about her since the summer, so I'm sure she's deserving of the award. As deserving a singer/songwriter with equal singing potential? Probably not. But I think we should respect Ms. Rimes' victory. Maybe she's as gifted as Jewel is, and we have discovered her yet. But I'd hate to think of people on other mailing lists dismissing Jewel if she had won the award over their favorite artist. We don't need an award to tell us how good Jewel is. We still have a good deal of her tour to look forward to, so let's remain bitter and think positively! Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 04:17:56 -0500 (EST) From: Ringokid23@aol.com Subject: on jewel snub i love Jewel as much as anyone else and would kill in the defense of her, but i cant believe that you kids are sniping at a 14 year old kid. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:55:20 -0600 (CST) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: Daddies Angels, I was thinking. Is it just me or do fathers like it exactly the way THEY themselves want it...or is it just me? I mean even the sweetest dudes(like my own dad) get really(excuse me) pissed if somebody says or does something he doesn't agree with..I know it sounds totally sexist but obviously thats my enterpretation of"daddy"..freedom from his beliefs..and also, I believe was Kims daddies problem..this thread if started should was not intended to be about her, but was sparked by her problems.. flame me for this, people, but think a little before you do..im just extremly curious..:) Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey ___________________________________________________________ "In case you failed to notice, in case you failed to see, this is my heart bleeding before you, this is me down on my knees...you're breaking my heart -Jewel Kilcher "Foolish Games" _____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:00:42 -0500 (EST) From: BillYeh@aol.com Subject: SJC: Re:Top Ten Grammy List >2. suffered for her music so severely she lived in her car while making her >album since when was this a valid way of deciding who wins an award? how do you know that leann rimes didn't sacrifice more? >3. writes her own songs >4. has never sang anyone else's songs Thirza wrote: >Okay i guess i'll be the one to start the list... >1) Behind the wall -jewels popular tracy chapman cover >2)I'm not sure but isnt SUMMERTIME a cover??? >3)Love is a rose-Neil young cover >4) can Somewhere over the rainbow be concidered a cover of judy garland??? Sure, SOTR is a cover. So are 5)"Have a Little Faith in Me" by John Hiatt (who really deserves a grammy) and 6)"Sunshine Superman," by Donovan. >5. has a manager that is NOT her mother Jewel's mother is part of her management team. 6. gotten popular because she is a beautiful and talented songwriter, not becaues she is a spunky preteenager with some potential a. LeAnn Rimes IS a teenager. b. Don't you think others look at Jewel and say "You know, she only got nominated because she's pretty and yodels." Most artists have something about them that makes them stand out from others; that's how record companies find them, and how they decide that these artists will become popular. >7. mentions Anais Nin in one of her songs :-) >8. includes her soul-baring poetry in her CD booklet >9. is not a hick, and last but not least, I like Jewel a lot, but I would have to consider her a hick, at least based on her 800-acre-homestead-with-an-outhouse origins. >10. has never slaughtered "unchained melody." I'm sorry, LeAnn is fourteen >and too damn young to hunger for ANY KIND of touch a long lonely time. except >maybe a spanking. So someone has to have experienced something to sing it well? Does that mean Jewel is terrible at singing "Behind the Wall" because she hasn't lived next door to an abused wife? I can understand that a lot of us are upset that Jewel didn't win a Grammy; I was rooting for her, too. However, I AM glad for LeAnn Rimes that she won; imagine how ecstatic she must have been, knowing that she had beat out so many other deserving nominees, and knowing how few people had given her any chance of winning. If you can't be happy for her, and for Toni Braxton (neither of whose music I particularly care for), you might want to refocus on your definition of EDA . Tired of mean-spirited people, even in jest, Bill Yeh Fellow EDA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Top Ten: [annoyed look] Okay, let me make one point clear: I DID NOT WRITE THE LIST! I REPOSTED IT FROM A FRIEND! I mentioned that twice! Mm__) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:22:25 -0500 (EST) From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: top ten list In a message dated 97-02-27 09:41:32 EST, CONNELL@taurus.cs.lmco.com writes: << Well, for the new folk, MAX and NINJA, Jewel's mother (Lenedra) IS her manager >> I KNEW THIS!!! I just reposted her list. My God, guys... Mm__) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:27:28 -0500 From: John Subject: Colby Show! Please Read! Hi, Does anyone know if there are *any* tix left for the Colby show tomorrow night?? Please write back if you have any info!! An anxious Angel! JAC "Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best." --Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:31:17 -0800 (PST) From: Yvonne Plante Subject: Concert!!! Hi I am pretty ne to this list and I may be going to my first concert on April 2nd and/or 3rd with my pal AMY!!!! I was wondering if any one else is planning to go too, and if so could you e-mail me and mabye we can meet! You can also e-mail me at FALCONCJ@aol.com for faster replys! Thanks, CJ???? Jewel Rules!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:59:02 -0500 From: piper@mclv.net Subject: grammy reactions... >>rather than Celine Dion. But what do you all think would happen to >>Jewel's career if she actually won? Changes for the good, or changes >>for the worse? Well, look at it this way... IF she had won a grammy last night, her ticket prices could possibly go up and the delay of the new album would be even longer... But hopefully this will keep her ticket prices lower and the 2nd album will come out sooner rather than later... The only downside is the possibility of a more wide-spread tour to more cities... ahh, oh well... Real quick though... My opinion on the whole grammy thing? Who cares? It's just an award... Sure it'd be cool if she won... But it really means nothing as long as Jewel remains Jewel forever and always... :) - --Lisa "Sometimes it's easy to be myself..." --Dave Matthews Band Multi-Comm Las Vegas Nv. 208.129.48.2 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:24:17 -0600 (CST) From: Fons Taddic Subject: Re: Top Ten (annoyed look) On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, chrissie wrote: > > You'd deny a Grammy to Celine Dion? > > > uh yessiree.. she makes me nauseous > > i n fact when she won for album of the year over beck and the pumkins i > nerly died...odelay and mellon collie were works of genius... i would > never define any of miss dion's work as anything other than sappy, > radio-friendly garbage. [shrug] So you have more alternative tastes than I do - I, personally, wouldn't have been happy if either of the ones you mentioned had won over Celine. The point I was trying to make is there- An artist doesn't have to write her/his own music to be one of the best at the craft of singing. Celine has one of the best voices I've ever heard. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #136 ***************************