From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #23 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Sunday, January 12 1997 Volume 02 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC: I don't like... JohnnyPlus overload NJC: Re: reply to jewel on singled out L.A.Times article 5/4/96 NJC: An idle quesion Re: NJC: An idle quesion Re: NJC: An idle quesion Njc: the whole suicidie thing Re: NJC: An idle quesion Re: IMPORTANT---READ THIS NOW!!!!!!! intelligent articulation (NJC) sorry, metaphohrs Re: The Whole Suicide Thing Re: Jewel philosophy Re: njc: Bush Jewel Shows? very NJC: Depression & suicide prevention resources Re: IMPORTANT---READ THIS NOW!!!!!!! Re: Jewel philosophy JC-Poster like thing, and LC-Mike Connell Re: Jewel mentioned on Singled out Re: Jewel philosophy Re: New Year's Jewel Shtuff NJC:Codes for jewel cd's at BMG and/or Columbia house NJC/JC: Please Clarify Re: The Whole Suicide Thing Re: JohnnyPlus overload EDA Gathering Southern California my 2 cents on suicide Re: Metaphorical Meaning JEWEL EDA'S MEMBERS IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! RE: NJC/Bush Re: IMPORTANT---READ THIS NOW!!!!!!! Re:NJC: my 2 cents on suicide ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:07:47 +0000 From: Tom Morales Subject: NJC: I don't like... JohnnyPlus@aol.com wrote: > > i dont like suicide !!!!!!!! I don't like Mondays!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:11:54 +0000 From: "Andrew Fu" Subject: JohnnyPlus overload Uhh, I'm not trying to be mean or anything but can you try posting all your replies in fewer messages? The amount of messages I gotta DL gets quit large, so it would really hlp if you could combine your replies into fewer messages... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: Raymond Wong Subject: NJC: Re: reply to jewel on singled out Lehmann wrote: > as well known. But anyway I agree with you about Singled Out, half the time I haven't the > slightest idea what the questions are supposed to mean. For example, one time there was > a question on that said "Age: HEart, hole, or the bangles." I was like, WHAT THE HELL? > uh, OK? Yeah. Gee, I don't get it. Am I old, since I remember all 3 bands, and understand how to interpret the question, or young and hip because I do? =) BTW, it's an age thing... look at the years they were popular. Hole fans would be the youngest, since that's a 90s thing. The Bangles are late 80s. Ummm, Heart's early 80s. Never mind that Heart is still around, of course. or are they? Okay, I guess I'm not that informed. So does that make me more or less hip by eMpTyV standards? :) Or wait, maybe it's that Hole's the oldest, coz Courtney was hip last year, but 80s bands are making comebacks, in which case Heart's in the middle, since they had a song that had some chart action after that, and Susanna Hoffs is working on it.. or maybe... ;) I think your typical MTVer wouldn't even recognize the name Ann Wilson, but maybe they're more 'up' on music history than I'm giving them credit for. Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@best.com, negativl@netcom.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:37:41 -0800 From: BOB Subject: L.A.Times article 5/4/96 REPRINT OF AN ARTICLE FROM L.A. TIMES ======= JEWEL'S FOLK GEM IS THE REAL THING - ---------------------------------- - ---------------------------------- POP BEAT: THE SINGER MOVES FROM COFFEEHOUSE OBSCURITY TO AN ALTERNATIVE RADIO HIT --- AND WITHOUT GUT-WRENCHING SKRIEKS. Jewel Kilcher has the year's most unlikely alternative-rock radio hit: "Who Will Save Your Soul," a lilting folk tune that shares few of the aggressive or self-consciously hip elements normally prized on the format. When the song comes on, say, KROQ-FM, it's easy to think you've pushed the wrong button on the car radio. There's no sly sexual innuendo peeking out from Jewel's questioning of religious institutions. No gut-wrenching, hair- tearing shriels claw the song's bridge. In sharp contrast to the many shock divas these days, Jewel (who uses just her first name) is reminiscent of the poetic grace of Joni Mitchell and Rickie Lee Jones. Throughout her debut Atlantic Records album, POY, she champions self-knowledge and kindness in a world that she sees as rife with hypocrisy and greed. And - get this- Jewel means every single word. "I don't know radio very well, but I know that people are ready to start feeling hope again," Jewel, 21, says over pancakes and honey at a Venice Beach sidewalk cafe, where her sun-kissed, surfy beauty seems discordantly genuine against the restaurant's boho grit. "I don't think there are any true cynics alive. They all killed themselves. And I don't think cynicism's necessarily smarter, it's just safer." Maybe Jewel is right, but it took quite a while for the pop world to catch on to her music and message. A full 15 months after the release of her debut album, the collection has begun a dramatic move up the charts. It is in the Top 50 nationally on the latest Billboard sales survey, and in the Top 20 in Southern California. But Jewel -- who headlines tonight at the JOHN ANSON FORD THEATER - -- is accustomed to unusual twists. The young singer-songwriter's upbringing was anything but conventional. Jewel's childhood home was an Alaskan homestead, where her folk-singing parents lived off the land. That sometimes meant Jewel went to school with cow-tongue sandwiches for lunch. Her parents stoked a love of music, exposing her to such artists as Odetta, Ella Fitzgerald, and Nina Simone. (She says she only heard Joni Mitchell, whom critics invariably cite as an influence, after POY was released.) At l6, the youngster showed her ingenuity by raising enough money through singing to finance a two-year stay at a boarding school in Michigan, where she studied performing arts. At 18 she joined her now-divorced mother in San Diego, where the pair live together and Jewel began forming her musical vision in clubs and coffeehouses. She worked for a while as a waitress but quit, she says, after being sexually harassed by her boss. The experience soured her on the 9-to-5 life. "My mom said, 'Let's just move into our cars and do what we like,' " she says. That's where Jewel was living -- in a van, surviving on carrots and peanut butter while surfing and writing songs -- when ner long- standing stint at San Diego's Innerchange coffeehouse fueled a buzz that reached record-label offices in Los Angeles. She signed with Atlantic in l994, and her album came out in February 1995. Because she released a folk-flavored album in the era of grunge and rap, Jewel knew she'd have to work hard to find an audience. She has performed as many as four sets a day wherever she could find a stage, including high schools and coffeehouses, as well as opening shows for such varied artists as Bob Dylan, Peter Murphy, Liz Phair and the Ramones. She even played Dorothy in a concert version of "The Wizard of Oz" last fall at Lincoln Center in New York. By accepting any gig she could snag, Jewel has helped turn POY into a hit, even if some of the gigs pushed her into alien territory for a folk-circuit wordsmith. "I hosted MTV's "Alternative Nation" and watched the show that night," she recalls. "All the other videos were the most angry, dark, depressing -- and then along came my little song. I thought it was hilarious, this dorky little thing after [the group] Marilyn Manson." Jewel wrote that "dorky little thing" four years ago, waiting for a bus next to a Catholic School. About "WWSYS" she adds, "We can make each other's lives worth living....even miraculous... or we can make it just hellish and spread a lot of crap. That's what the song was kinda about for me." Jewel pauses and reflects on all the changes in her life. "Sometimes I think I have to keep pinching myself to think that from living in a van two years ago to now...it's just so surreal," she says. "I always thought I would steal toilet paper from fast- food restaurants and scrap food off people's plates from where I worked...." by Sara Scribner, Special to the Times Los Angeles Times, May 4, 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 23:47:14 -0700 (MST) From: Chopped Liver Subject: NJC: An idle quesion You think Jewel will use her last name on the next CD? Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:04:26 -0500 (EST) From: Angel Subject: Re: NJC: An idle quesion On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Chopped Liver wrote: > > You think Jewel will use her last name on the next CD? > > Chopped Liver (Charlie) > watkins@selway.umt.edu > I don't think so, I think she kind-of lost it for good. people might not realize that it's the same person, well, except for EDA's of course. katherine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:26:37 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: NJC: An idle quesion > > I don't think so, I think she kind-of lost it for good. >people might not realize that it's the same person, well, except for >EDA's of course. katherine > Still I remeber the quote from Leno "with just Jewel I fell like a barbie". Dose anyone but me get that referance (of course I could be totaly off and she might not have been thinking about this at all when she said that but...). If anyone remebers, there was some kinad barbie spin-off thing or something and she was like a normal person with a secret identedy of a rock star/srim fighter or somthing. And what was that charaters name? It was Jem :]. Just thought I'd let that out for some reason. - -Ashe Mayfair "Angels lookin' make it hard to cry" -Tracy Bonham "Non-recognition it the way to keep everything you wanna hide" -Letters to Cleo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: Dollphini@aol.com Subject: Njc: the whole suicidie thing Hum, I'm not really sure why people who are sucidial would want to go on the net, but I have a few ideas-- 1. You can talk about your problems, i.e. wanting to die, to people who don't actually know you, and you will save some anomitity (is that even a word? Oh well? Ya'll know what I mean, like being anonmous and stuff??) 2. alot of the times, in my expirence :(, people on the net, have alot more patience than real people, because, they are willing to hear you out, and not just scream at you and tell you how "perfect" one would have to be for everyone else, and how stupid you are, not only for what your doing to yourself, but how it will effect everyone else. 3. when you talk to someone, on the computer, it's like, they have to explain how they feel about what you say, in "real" life, people just expect you to know how they feel. So if you were like say, talking to someone, on the computer, and they wanted to say, that maybe they cared about you, and didn't want you to hurt yourself, they would acrually have to say it, instead of just accusing you of being dense for not knowing. These are all my opinion, and well, I guess it's not worth much, but hey, I gotta post sometimes, ya know Amber ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:51:59 -0500 (EST) From: EveryDay Angel Subject: Re: NJC: An idle quesion I don't thing she would only because the rest of the world nows her as Jewel. It's sort of having Madonna go be her real name which is something orother. Jewel would have to teach everyone (except us EDAs) that Jewel=Jewel Kilcher. An EveryDayAngel, Bryan. On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Chopped Liver wrote: > > You think Jewel will use her last name on the next CD? > > Chopped Liver (Charlie) > watkins@selway.umt.edu > > Share publicly, flame privately, > " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict > it's harder yet to disregard it ". > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:56:11 -0500 (EST) From: Buritohead@aol.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT---READ THIS NOW!!!!!!! suicide is such a silly concept, however we do have a god given life to do what we choose with. Remember, suicide is a solution for the uncreative!!!! The Mighty Buritohead ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:14:57 +0000 From: Richard Martin Subject: intelligent articulation (NJC) NJC,but I picked this up off another list and thought that it might make you smile :-))) Here's a good list of "dumb quotes": Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can't help but cry. I mean I'd love to be skinny like that but not with all those flies and death and stuff. > >>> -- Mariah Carey > >>> Question: If you could live forever, would you and why? Answer: I would not live forever, because we should not live forever, because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever, but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever. > >>> -- Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss Universe contest > >>> > >>> Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions in the brain as marijuana...The researchers also discovered other similarities between the two, but can't remember what they are. > >>> --Matt Lauer on NBC's Today show, August 22 > >>> I haven't committed a crime. What I did was fail to comply with the law. > >>> -- David Dinkins, New York City Mayor, answering accusations that he failed to pay his taxes. > >>> Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life. > >>>> >> -- Brooke Shields, during an interview to become spokesperson for a federal anti-smoking campaign > >>> I've never had major knee surgery on any other part of my body. > >>> -- Winston Bennett, University of Kentucky basketball forward Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. > >>> -- Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, D.C. > >>> Beginning in February 1976 your assistance benefits will be discontinued... Reason: it has been reported to our office that you expired on January 1, 1976. > >>> -- Letter from the Illinois Department of Public Aid The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history...this century's history...We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century. > >>> -- Dan Quayle, then Indiana senator and Republican vice-presidential candidate during a news conference in which he was asked his opinion of the Holocaust >> Rotarians, be patriotic! Learn to shoot yourself. > >>> -- Chicago Rotary Club journal, "Gyrator" > >>> The streets are safe in Philadelphia. It's only the people who make them unsafe. > >>> -- Frank Rizzo, ex-police chief and mayor of Philadelphia > >>> I've always thought that underpopulated countries in Africa are vastly underpolluted. > >>> -- Lawrence Summers, chief economist of the World Bank, explaining why we should export toxic wastes to Third World countries > >>> After finding no qualified candidates for the position of principal, the school board is extremely pleased to announce the appointment of David Steele to the post. > >>> -- Philip Streifer, Superintendent of Schools, Barrington, Rhode Island > >>> The doctors X-rayed my head and found nothing. > >>> -- Dizzy Dean explaining how he felt after being hit on the head by a ball in the 1934 World Series - -- Richard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:03:20 -0600 From: "Damon Schmidt" Subject: sorry, metaphohrs the ubiquitous JohnnyPlus writes: >i got a question...... when Jewel blinks her eye what does it mean???? It means: a. her eye is dry b. winking at me or c. physical manifestation of her attempts to block out the memory of the degradation she suffered at the hands of the HARRISBROS. (tm). Damon "...the use of the term HARRISBROS. (tm) is covered under international copyright law as well as being a service mark of Harris International. Any unauthorized use of the terminology quoted in the above text for any reason may result in loss of sanity due to the fact that SELENA will be sent to your home to bind you --legally or otherwise---. Hence SELENA(tm) will herefore and forthwith be considered a service mark of Harris Intl. with all applicable laws applied to use of said terminology..."--Damon A Schmidt, legal advisor, Harris, Intl. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:05:47 -0500 (EST) From: GraywolfLA@aol.com Subject: Re: The Whole Suicide Thing In a message dated 97-01-11 23:41:52 EST, you write: << My own personal guess on to why there are so many suicidal folks on the net: >> You raise very good points here! I've been lucky enough to have quality friends in "real life" to help support and help support me (really, the same process). Each time I've met somone on this list, I have felt a special bond of friendship, which probably comes from this process of sharing our thoughts. Thanks for sharing yours, Larry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:05:53 -0500 (EST) From: GraywolfLA@aol.com Subject: Re: Jewel philosophy In a message dated 97-01-12 00:42:25 EST, you write: << You know how Jewel always says how "hands manifest thought" ? I was wondering what she meant by that... I think I heard her explain that once but I forgot... Could any of you intellectual philophers enlighten me? >> I don't claim to be a "philopher" (;-)), but I am fairly certain she means "hands" in a somewhat metaphorical way; she is saying that what we do and what we create (with our "hands") is a manifestation of what we think; if we think and believe beautiful and nice thoughts, we can (and do) create beauty and nice things, thus making manifest that which we think. Her work is the perfect example of that. L. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:07:24 -0500 (EST) From: Brett Anderson Subject: Re: njc: Bush I really hope that you don't mean by the "WooHoo" following your announcement of BUSH's last album being voted last, that you are down-playing BUSH. Of course I have absolutely nothing to back up my defense of the band other than my own personal taste. But, for the record, I think that BUSH is a good sound and I know that they have a great live show (especially with No Doubt). Well, that's my contribution for this 6-month period. Thank you. "Lemmings--cursed by evolution or nature's unfortunate attempt at skydiving mammals?" -ng- z ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:26:36 -0500 (EST) From: FredP333@aol.com Subject: Jewel Shows? I live in the Los Angeles Area, new to the mailing list, (by the way, hi!) and I was just wondering if anyone knows of when Jewel will next be coming out here to So. Cal. to play a spell. I'd love to see her at least once before I die, she's a truly beautiful and talented person and singer/guitarist. Thanks, Fred ************************************ * * * ******************************** * Fred Peters * * FredP333@aol.com * * http://members.aol.com/FredP333/Home.html * ************************************ * * * ******************************** *"I started thinkin', you know I started drinkin', I don't really remember* *too much of that day, something struck me funny when we ran out of money,* * where do you go now when you're only 16?" * ************************************ * * * ******************************** * "I wish you bluebirds in the spring, to give your heart a song to * * sing, and then a kiss, but more than this, I wish you love." * * -The Skatalites, from "I Wish You Love" * ************************************ * * * ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 06:59:40 -0500 (EST) From: Christine Subject: very NJC: Depression & suicide prevention resources Further to the recent discussion of suicide and depression, I offer some online resources that may be of interest to those in need and/or unaware of their existence. Some of these sites are presented by charitable organizations or through educational institutions and provide info, reading lists, befriending/support services for those in crisis, etc: - --The Samaritans (UK site links to list of worldwide branches offering crisis intervention/support by drop-in, telephone & email) http://www.compulink.co.uk/~careware/samaritans/ - --Depression Alliance http://www.gn.apc.org/da/ - --Suicide FAQ http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/internet/news/faq/archive/suicide.info.html - --Additional info on depression available by linking through the Online Depression Screening Test http://www.med.nyu.edu/Psych/screens/depres.html or directly at gopher://zippy.nimh.nih.gov/11/documents/nimh/depression I hope that by extending this info I will point someone in an appropriate direction and ease a bit of the suffering and pain for those affected. Christine ~~~~~~~~~ "Next to being witty yourself, the best thing is being able to quote another's wit." -C. Boree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:12:16 -0600 From: krishan@pc.jaring.my (Subashini) Subject: Re: IMPORTANT---READ THIS NOW!!!!!!! >Todd A Werner wrote: > >>Why was this post about suicide relevant or necessary at all? > >I personally think that post was the best NJC post this list has had in >months, perhaps ever. We've had two public posts on this list about EDAs >and their friends threatening or talking of suicide in the last month. I've >run into more than a few very depressed EDAs on AOL and IRC. > >I cannot believe that with all the other NJC posts that happen on this list >that THIS one gets a complaint!!??!! Ditto. >Duffs' post could very well save the life of one or more EDAs OR someone an >EDA knows. >How could that upset you? > >That's all I have to say on this matter. > >Mike In fact, I forwarded this to a couple of friends. It can be of help to anybody, cause I'm sure everyone has met a suicidal person at one point or another. Subash ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:06:23 -0400 (AST) From: lmonkman@ibl.bm Subject: Re: Jewel philosophy Aloha! I'll trry to explain this simply but mind jumps around a lot so you might get lost... who knows.. i haven't even written yet. OK, basically if you always think, oh my god, i'm gonna get sick or something.. you _will_ get sick just because you think about it. but if you train your mind to think positively then good things will happen. i think. love, laurel :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:40:20 -0500 From: Thomas Patric Oesterheld Subject: JC-Poster like thing, and LC-Mike Connell Issue #1(JC)--The poster like thing for Best Buy is produced in quantity, as it goes to all music stores(we had five when I worked at Sam Goody). However, the top estimates for these are about 2 to 3 thousand produced(possibly more for top sellers, which Jewel was for a while here recently)--a pretty low number, especially since most of them go in the trash or home with employees. Issue #2(list content)-- Mike Connell- How does he seem to always come up with the right words to say to someone disenchanted with the list? Mike is always the first to e-mail people that need help on the list, and he follows through, too. And you know what, now that I think about it, there are a lot of people on this list that do the same thing. Things have changed on the list, as they always will, but the fact that we are all here for each other hasn't changed. I hope as the list grows, the new people that show up will be just as helpful, and caring. As EDA's, it's up to all of us to welcome new members and show them that if they're to truly become an EDA, they need to be this way, too. Love you all(yes,yanos-you, too), Patric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 09:55:26 -0800 From: Jeffrey Miller Subject: Re: Jewel mentioned on Singled out Chopped Liver wrote: > > What you have to do is ignore the crap that comes out of these people's > mouths. Btw, any time you here a guy mention "high maintenance" when > refering to women it just means he's a self-centered little boy and > can't keep up his end of a relations ship. > At the risk of coming across badly... I'd have to disagree with you in some cases, CL - women can be just as demanding, self-centered, self-serving, dispicable, manipulating, selfish, and abusive as men. I do think that the term "high maintenance" is a poor choice of words - it implies just what you say, that the man is afraid of relationship responsabilities - but it works both ways, CL. Sucking in your gut and "taking it like a man" is one of the poorest attitudes you can have in a relationship. It's a one-way ticket to unhappiness, for any gender. - -Jeffrey- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 10:04:19 -0800 From: Jeffrey Miller Subject: Re: Jewel philosophy GraywolfLA@aol.com wrote: > I don't claim to be a "philopher" (;-)), but I am fairly certain she means > "hands" in a somewhat metaphorical way; she is saying that what we do and > what we create (with our "hands") is a manifestation of what we think; if we > think and believe beautiful and nice thoughts, we can (and do) create beauty > and nice things, thus making manifest that which we think. Her work is the > perfect example of that. A quick addition - popular existential philosophy says that we are nothing more than the gestalt of our actions - that there is no hidden us for others to discover, the hypothetical "nice guy under all that hate" My take on Jewel's comment is what you've said, but also that we as humans interact with our environment through our hands - psychics and those involved in "mystic" things as well as magik may have come across the thoughts behind the use of hands as tools of communication. Also, the nerves between our fingertips and brain are among the "fastest" in our body, as well some of the most sensitive (obviously not _the_ most) - -Jeffrey- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 10:39:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin B. Mendonca" Subject: Re: New Year's Jewel Shtuff Here's what I learned over my Christmas vacation: The Best New Artist Award criteria: It is the group which had an album in the last year which established the group in the public eye. Therefore, No Doubt is a "New Artist". THE BOSTON GLOBE SLAMS JEWEL: In the Living/Arts section's year end music review, Jewel "won" an award for, I can't remember exactly, but something like the most pretentious new female singer. She "won" another underhanded award which I can't remember. Jewel has made it big. She was on E's Gossip Show. She went to an art gallery with, I think, 'Princess' Di. The gossiper said Jewel had enhanced herself culturally and socially by doing so. Ironically, I have downgraded myself in these departments 1) by watching hte Gossip Show and 2) admitting it to all of you. VH1 loves Jewel. Everytime she came up in Grammy talks the lady hosting the show would get excited and say "Yay for Jewel". Who knows? Maybe Jewel will become the Michael Jackson of VH1. Finally, Entertainment Weekly's year end review featured many Jewel references and one funny quip by Norm Macdonald of SNL. "At a recent concert, Jewel wlaked off the stage after being hit by a frisbee. In a related stories, frisbees will now be sold at all Michael Bolton concerts." Happy New Year, Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 10:26:09 -0600 From: Bill & Carrie Subject: NJC:Codes for jewel cd's at BMG and/or Columbia house - ------------5748713A6BE70 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anybody still have the post where they gave the album codes for the cd's that Jewel was on for either columiba house or bmg. If so can somebody send me that info. Thanks! Carrie - ------------5748713A6BE70 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Does anybody still have the post where they gave the album codes for the cd's that Jewel was on for either columiba house or bmg.  If so can somebody send me that info.  Thanks!
Carrie
- ------------5748713A6BE70-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:29:57 -0500 (EST) From: NittanyVS@aol.com Subject: NJC/JC: Please Clarify Can people please stick to the NJC/JC coding when sending a message to the list? That whole "IMPORTANT -- READ THIS NOW!!" sparked another controversy that could have been easily avoided if the sender just put NJC: before the subject. NittanyVS@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:50:39 -0500 (EST) From: Splugorth@aol.com Subject: Re: The Whole Suicide Thing In a message dated 97-01-11 23:18:50 EST, jacslash@star.net (John) writes: << eelings, but I'm curious why I've encountered so many (ok, but 3 is more than I know of off-line) people who are feeling this way. From the recent discussion, it seems there are EDA's who have had these feelings. I'm just curious as to anyone's hypothises on why this (in my opinion) is encountered more on the 'net. Any responses will be welcome, never flamed, just debated. :) If you want to look me up on irc my nick is JacFlash. Give me a yell. >> Actually quite simple. On the 'net people can be themselves, but with a certain degree of anonymity. It can be considerably easier to show your feelings on the 'net. Everyone has an inbred, instinctual desire to survive. I think that's where the last hour desperation comes into play. Where they want to find a reason they shouldn't die. Tony T. Splugorth@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:50:51 -0500 (EST) From: Splugorth@aol.com Subject: Re: JohnnyPlus overload In a message dated 97-01-12 01:16:49 EST, Andrew.Fu@randomc.com (Andrew Fu) writes: << Uhh, I'm not trying to be mean or anything but can you try posting all your replies in fewer messages? The amount of messages I gotta DL gets quit large, so it would really hlp if you could combine your replies into fewer messages. >> That would make it difficult to follow certain threads and ignore others. You may be interested in the digest version, which combines (and correct me if I'm wrong) all the messages from a given day into one message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:08:21 -0800 From: Erick Garske Subject: EDA Gathering Southern California - ------------54DC6AB74D750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All EDA's are invited to a gathering to celebrate the Jewel Grammy nomination for best new artist and best female vocalist. The party starts at 2pm Saturday January 18th. The featured brew is heffenwiezen from the Carlsbad Brewery. Find below directions from Carlsbad to my house: Directions: Take I-5 to 78 East Take the MELROSE DR exit Turn LEFT onto S MELROSE DR Turn RIGHT onto NORTH AVE. NORTH AVE becomes NORTH DR. Turn LEFT onto EAST DR. Turn LEFT onto WOODRAIL DR. On the corner of EAST DR. and WOODRAIL DR. is 1105 Woodrail Drive, Vista For alternative routes contact http://www.tripquest.com for door to door directions. See you there!! Erick - ------------54DC6AB74D750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
  All EDA's are invited to a gathering to celebrate the Jewel Grammy nomination for best new artist and best female vocalist.
 
  The party starts at 2pm Saturday January 18th.  The featured brew is heffenwiezen from the Carlsbad Brewery.     
 
   Find below directions from Carlsbad to my house:     Directions:  Take I-5 to 78 East  Take the MELROSE DR exit  Turn LEFT onto S  MELROSE DR  Turn RIGHT onto  NORTH AVE.  NORTH AVE becomes  NORTH DR.  Turn LEFT onto  EAST DR.  Turn LEFT onto  WOODRAIL DR.  On the corner of EAST DR. and WOODRAIL DR. is 1105 Woodrail Drive, Vista     
   
  For alternative routes contact http://www.tripquest.com for door to door directions.    See you there!!     Erick       
- ------------54DC6AB74D750-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 11:41:33 -0800 From: martin bruce Subject: my 2 cents on suicide I'm only going to say one thing and only once. That is to all you people who talk negaatively about suicide. You don't know what goes through the head of a person who is contemplating suicide. You also don't know reasons. Life can be really shitty sometimes and sometimes you just don't want to take it any longer. Yes, I am speaking from experiance and the only reason I'm here today is my faith in God otherwise I would have been gone a long time ago . It's hard and If you don't understand then don't comment. bruce ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:15:22 -0500 (EST) From: BillYeh@aol.com Subject: Re: Metaphorical Meaning I don't think it means anything. I think it's just how she sings. Most people close their eyes while singing so that they can concentrate on the sound of their voice, without the distraction of visuals. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 97 11:49:00 -0500 From: Justin Wherry Subject: JEWEL EDA'S MEMBERS IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!! [List-owner's note: Please be sure to send all responses directly to Justin Wherry . Don't reply directly to the list. Justin will compile the survey results and post a summary. --Jeff] - -- [ From: Justin Wherry * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Dear EDA's, I hosting a survey so everyone on this list will know about everyone else! Just think how great a mailing list this will be if everyone on the list knows about everyone else! So here is the survey! Family: Pets: What made you start listening to Jewel: What was the first Jewel song you heard: What is your favorite Jewel song: What is your favorite Jewel Bootleg: What is your favorite Jewel Poem: Favorite Food: Favorite Other Bands: Favorite Actors: Favorite Actresses: Favorite Movie: Favorie Book: Favorite Magazine: Likes: Dislikes: Favorite Color: Favorite TV Show: Beliefs: Favorite Nickname: What do you want to be called on this list: "The Quoter" Justin "Hugged Jewel" Wherry ------------------------------ Date: 12 Jan 97 14:08:22 EST From: Raphael the Archangel <75271.2740@CompuServe.COM> Subject: RE: NJC/Bush Bush has always been diminished by the press. I for one like their music and their sound , but I can also see the general press consensus. First , musically the guys are on the limp side. Their songs sound cool and are catchy , but they are very very simple. Then the press gets upset when a band they consider mediocre , gets to sell so many records and rise to fame so quickly probably due to the lead singer's looks. Don't get me wrong here , I love Bush's albums , but their music is not innovative , and if it weren't for Gavin , maybe they wouldn't have gotten a record deal and gotten the fan response it has. until then your auto cheap archangel: Rafa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:26:16 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: IMPORTANT---READ THIS NOW!!!!!!! At 02:56 12/01/97 -0500, you wrote: >suicide is such a silly concept, however we do have a god given life to do >what we choose with. >Remember, suicide is a solution for the uncreative!!!! > The Mighty Buritohead > hehe, god given right. Dose everyone know that suiside IS illiegal (lest in some states)? Weird huh? - -Ashe Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:35:33 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re:NJC: my 2 cents on suicide At 11:41 12/01/97 -0800, you wrote: >I'm only going to say one thing and only once. That is to all you people >who talk negaatively about suicide. You don't know what goes through the >head of a person who is contemplating suicide. You also don't know >reasons. Life can be really shitty sometimes and sometimes you just don't >want to take it any longer. Yes, I am speaking from experiance and the >only reason I'm here today is my faith in God otherwise I would have been >gone a long time ago . It's hard and If you don't understand then don't >comment. > > bruce > Ok, I read this once.... and my 1st reaction was to just totaly go off and yell and scream. Insdead I took some time to calm myself and re-read the post. Now I'm ready to make a more civilised response. Ok, I have personal expiriance with this, so I guess I have your preimission to talk eh? What your saying here, at least from what I can tell, is that suicide it okay if you fell that your life is unlivable. Well the tell me why it's aginst the LAW and aginst GOD. To me what you said is like saying "it's ok to murder someone as long as you REALLY REALLY hate the person". Now if I'm misunderstanding you I'm sorry. People have a right to say talk bad on suicide. Yes I do know how you can fell worthless somtimes and fell that live has no meaning, but I've learned that suicide is not the answer and yes it is stupid. Now if people saying that hurts your fillings, to bad. I've tried to kill myself several times and the person that I loved more then anyone else on the God forsaken pit of a planet was taken from me because she killed herself. So let me say from personal expiriance that suicide is stupid. IF you committ suicide then you are just a selfish and foolish person. Next time any of you out there think about killing yourselfs then just think about how much it will effct the people around you. It's been 3 years since my little run-in with it... and I still can't make it throught the day without felling like crap at least once. Look at it like this, I really see little need to go one at all anymore. everyone I care about is either dead or hunderds of miles away (oddly enough one moved to Alaska). I don't have a perposue to go on liveing for... and I still sit here and say that suicide is dumb. I can understand the fellings of wanting to commit suicide. Still, I agree with what everyone who spoke badly about it said. So there it is, from somone that dose know what it's like. Hope your happy now. - -Ashe (ignor the typos) Mayfair ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #23 **************************