From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #17 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Thursday, January 9 1997 Volume 02 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Choir Of Angels Re: Jewels sketch Re: JC:Acoustic vs. Electric Re: Quotes for the success of Jewel Is the background singer in I'm Sen. the Same as Emily NJC: age descrimin-fucking-nation Who has the 5/21/96 Tradewinds show? Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? Re: Obsessive much? Re: NJC: age descrimin-fucking-nation Re: Jewel song on "Clueless" Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? Re: Jewel Re: HOWARD STERN talked about JEWEL thismorning... NJC: Poems and junk Map info wanted. Howard Stern Epilogue Re: NJC: age descrimin-fucking-nation Accoustic VS Eletric JC: Poll/First Single Re: Adopt-A-Newbie V2.0 [Fwd: January is for Sissies] losing JC: Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? Re: [Fwd: January is for Sissies] Well, color me a sissy color! Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? Jewel duet with Melissa Etheridge CD clubs Re: JC:Acoustic vs. Electric Re: NJC: age descrimin-f*cking-nation Re: NJC: age descrimin-*-nation Re: [Fwd: January is for Sissies] Re: Accoustic VS Eletric - Satellite note That stupid story about Jewel in the ariport NJC: Bunch 'o' stuff Re: That stupid story about Jewel in the ariport ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:06:17 -0600 From: "Damon Schmidt" Subject: Re: Choir Of Angels > well, what if we dont have any original tunes??? I cant write songs! I suck > at writing songs...And most of my poems dont translate well to songs (as if > id even know how) Could we be able to sing other artists songs? (Other than > Jewel i mean) I would LOVE to do something from Rugburns. > > Thirza I was thinking and just now i thought "Hey, maybe you could then contribute a spoken word piece!!!" Damon "...bite me, fan boy!..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:25:09 -0600 (CST) From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Subject: Re: Jewels sketch > >P.P.S If we are generation X, then what was that letter/symbol/number given > >to the generation that grew up in the 70s (a far better decade than the 90s > >if you ask me)? > God, the 70's were better than the 90's? (where and we going?) I don't know, noth decades had a lot of problems, but I think the biggest thing the 90's is lacking is a sense of urgency or spirit. It seems like there's nothing left to fight hard for, and if there is, it is oh-so-quickly turned into a teenage trend packaged nicely with fashion and music (no offense, teenagers out there, I'm just barely out of my teen s myself) Anybody agree with me on this? Also, as far as I know, We're really the tail end of the GenX generation (that is, people who are entering their twenties right now). I would have to say that the 60's and 70's were the "We" generations, as in they were categorized by strong feelings on oneness in the countries youth. People were concerned with helping each other and fighting causes (Vietnam, Racism, Women's Rights, just to name a few) The Eighties, on the other hand, was the "Me" generation, typically characterized by people entering their twenties who were concerned with gaining financial power. This was the pinnacle of the whole idea of "The coproate ladder." Everybody wanted to be a Yuppie (Well, not EVERYBODY, but you know what I mean). This is what I understand the last few generations have been, and if anybody disagrees I'd really like to hear your points of view on this. History, especially history that realtes to me in a personal way, has always fascinated me. Anyway *whew* that was a long damn letter. Thanks for listening... SenztvRtst KErmit Scooter Bradley "I can't believe I wrote the whole thing" Porter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:23:16 -0500 (EST) From: Angel Subject: Re: JC:Acoustic vs. Electric > I have to agree. Electric is just somehow different, and not in a good > way... > > Tony T. > Splugorth@aol.com Maybe she puts a little of both on her albums, so that everybody is happy, and of course because variety IS the spice of life. Remember, she's pretty darn good at this thing that she does. katherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:25:07 -0700 (MST) From: Chopped Liver Subject: Re: Quotes for the success of Jewel On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Justin Wherry wrote: > "It takes time to be a success, but time is all it takes. - Anon - > "Behind every successful man there's a lot of unsuccessful years." > - Bob Brown - > "The secret of all victory lies in the organization of the non-obvious." > - Oswald Spengler - > "Success is not so much what you are, but rather what you appear to be." - > Anon - > "The Quoter" Justin "Hugged Jewel" Wherry And here's mine: The only difference between being scorned for your stubbornness and praise for your persistance is success. -Chopped Liver Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:23:05 -0500 From: "Every Day Angel" Subject: Is the background singer in I'm Sen. the Same as Emily Is the background singer in I'm Sen. the Same as Emily? If she is, who is she. An EveryDayAngel, Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:26:08 -0500 (EST) From: Grrly1@aol.com Subject: NJC: age descrimin-fucking-nation This is a letter mostly aimed at you AOL dudes whom i talk to every night in the chat room... I really hate it when SOME people treat me differently because i just happen to be a few years younger than you. (I'm not going to name names, Tom) i have to face age descrimination every day and i dont need it when i am hanging out with the people who are supposed to be my friends, even though you probably only tolerate me because i just happen to show up in the room. And if you are in a room talking about err...um...steamy stuff, i dont appreciate it when you say "there are children in the room". that really pisses me off. i'm not a child...i dont play with toys i dont even own a doll. i'd rather you tell me to get the hell out of a room then to say "there are children in here". i'm sure a lot of you wouldnt want me calling any of you old, i would never do that though (well only in jest of course) because i know that any of you older members woulnt appreciate that, and i dont think in the form of age...to me were all equals...but i guess not every one feels that way. well i think its my "bed time" since i'm just a child and all. whatever if anyone is mad at me for this please dont yell at me...i just had to vent. thirza "Damn the man, save the empire"-empire records ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:25:34 -0500 From: "Every Day Angel" Subject: Who has the 5/21/96 Tradewinds show? Who has the master copy of the 5/21/96 Tradewinds show? If the person is unknown, is anyone willing to make me a dub. An EveryDayAngel, Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:36:38 -0500 From: "Terrence R. Williams" Subject: Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? At 11:34 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >I've listened to the live and album versions of I'm Sensitive. I was >wondering who was singing Jewel's Harmony. Not that I know, because I don't, but it's entirely possible that she recorded her own backup track. If you've heard the song "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, Gwen Steffani backs herself up. Just records two vocal tracks, one melodic, and one harmonic. Too bad we can't do that live (split our voices... ) :-) - Terrence R. Williams thespis@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:40:10 -0600 (CST) From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Subject: Re: Obsessive much? > This list has been getting increasingly obsessive lately. The whole angels > thing is getting way overboard, wearing wings and stuff? come on now, I may be blind...but we were all just kidding right? Wearing wings to a Jewel show? It's cute but....really. SenztvRtst Bradley "desperately wanting to be mistaken for 'michael' at a jewel show" Porter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:44:20 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: NJC: age descrimin-fucking-nation >pisses me off. i'm not a child...i dont play with toys i dont even own a Hmmmmmmmm, that's ood. I'm 18 and have lottsa toys (tis what you get when you read to many comics and wacth to much Star Wars I guess ;]). Guess that makes me a child. GoodY!! Heheh :]. >if anyone is mad at me for this please dont yell at me...i just had to vent. Venting is good for the soul. Take it from somone that usta hold alot of anger in. Vent whenever you can people. Just try to do it in a good way ;]. > >thirza > >"Damn the man, save the empire"-empire records > - -Ashe Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:44:50 -0500 (EST) From: Angel Subject: Re: Jewel song on "Clueless" I forgot, what song is it that she sings? katherine ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:48:25 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? At 01:36 09/01/97 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:34 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote: >>I've listened to the live and album versions of I'm Sensitive. I was >>wondering who was singing Jewel's Harmony. > > >Not that I know, because I don't, but it's entirely possible that she >recorded her own backup track. > Ok, ok, ok. From all what I can tell, it IS Jewel on the back-up there (and it would seem in foolish games). My friend was bicthing about this when we where listning to PoY because he was saying how it wouldn't sound the same in concert as on the CD. Sure can't find any name for this back-up in the liner notes. OF course I don't really know. Oh well. - -Ashe Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:47:26 -0500 (EST) From: Angel Subject: Re: Jewel > Bob Scott wrote: > > >THE BIG NEWS...THE NEW ALBUM WON'T BE OUT UNTIL JULY. > Maybe, she'll put it out just in time for JS 2 That would be kind of cool. katherine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 23:28:54 +0000 From: Tom Morales Subject: Re: HOWARD STERN talked about JEWEL thismorning... Did anyone hear Stuttering John ask Jewel how Sean Penn was in bed? JOSHUA GAYNOR wrote: > > hello everyone, > > i just wanted to see if anyone else out there heard howard stern > talking about Jewel this morning on the radio. about 7:10 am. > he talked about her and played part of an interview with stutering > john. the whole Jewel bit lasted a good 3 plus minutes. > > we all know how harsh howard stern can be... well he wasn't too > harsh on Jewel. he did make fun of her a little (which i didn't > appreciate too much, but that's expected with stern) > > he made fun "who will save your soul" and "ywmfm".. saying that they > sound exactly the same. which of course is nonsense. the funny part > was how stutering john was trying to interview jewel after the grammy > award nominations. he either pissed her off or she didn't take him > seriously, blowing him off three times and then said "F**K YOU". > they had to piece together the 3 interview attemps to play it on the > air. it was pretty funny. > > did anyone else catch this??? what did you think?? was howard too > harsh or not??? > > peace, > -josh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:36:19 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: NJC: Poems and junk Hi, I'm gonna be posting a lot of poetry about now just cus I'm in the mood. Oddly enough I also fell like telling the stories behind the poems tonight, something I rearly do... Manmade Rain She is beautiful in the rain of memory So peacfull, contended, loved Pain strikes when you least expect it The cresendo to suicide was, and still is, deafining I was over taken, now I have been taken The light dies, the soul thrives All that is levt is manmade rain This was what I wrote first and then expanded on so I could use it as a piece for my competitive drama torneies (and did rather well with BTW) I've never really liked this one, but have always kept it for those last two lines (tell me what the last line refers to why don'cha) This is just one of the many poem I've writin in order to vent from one simpel thing. That being the suicide death of a girlfrined of mine. Sometimes I wonder if that kind of pain ever really goes away. I don't think so, but I can hope... ???????? Once I let it all go by Just sat aside and let tme fly Beating myself for what I'd done Insisting I was the only one Now my soul is black and blue Just not liveing what I think I chose Sitting crooked in the dark The blade leaves shuch a bloddy mark I'm sorry for what I've done Don't let me stop you from warming in the sun Inside your cold, and maybe so am I but at least I don't belive myself when I lie Hmmmmmmmm, would you say that was from a my darker period? I think so. This was writen when some one that had been my friend told me that I was better off dead. You take from it what you can. Fate is Shallow A fated angel stalls Wondering if she'll fall From the heaven to which she had acended To the land on wich she had depended And again she walks with me My Live My Love And My Destiny Others now come to know All the powers bestowed A time will come The end for some Yet still my angel seeks For a period of time I had dreams about this garduian angel that was roming the earth in search was what it had levt behind (agian that is one of my dream metophors). This was just kinda me going on about it. Ashe's to Ashley's Lies told, lies belived I can only watch her seath To stop that legacy is what I wish Batered and Burised Broken and Mangeld A black and blue fleshtone ingraved in forever I will never forgive and never forget Someday there will be absolution for my retrobution But not today I've had a friend named Ashley who had bad drug problems, and a girlfriend named Ashley who had an abusive fauther. I wrote this around that time I knew them both. This is the last one tonight I think (i'm sure your all happy for that): Sometimes We Die Sometimes we die inside When the simplist dreams are denied When all we live is a lie When our only response is a sigh Sometimes we dye our hair Living on curlety and stail air Living fantisys for wich no one cares Living for things that we shared Somtimes we die form the pain Wondering why love drives us insain Wondering when we bacame one in the rain Wondering where hopes go when you wash them down the drain Sometimes I cry and don't know why Sometimes I let it rain deep inside Sometimes I look around and ask why and yes Sometimes I die but that's ok Because I'll never forget what it was like to live Just quickly here: this one was writen just tonight, no stoy for you this time. Hope I didn't bore anyone, hope I didn't scare anyone. But I do hope to get some response to these. Do you like em? Do you hate em? What? Tell me? I just wanna know. I've posted two other poems and only got a couple responses form people. I wanna hear about it. Well, whatever. One other thing: Re: Choir Of Angels >I was thinking and just now i thought "Hey, maybe you could then contribute >a spoken word piece!!!" How about it? Think I've writen anything that would be of value? - -Ashe (ingor the pycos) Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:39:45 -0500 (EST) From: EveryDay Angel Subject: Map info wanted. Who do I send my where abouts to for the EDA map. And when it is done, where do I get a copy. An EveryDayAngel, Bryan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:42:56 -0500 (EST) From: EveryDay Angel Subject: Howard Stern Epilogue If anyone wants to see the entire commentary by Z100's Cyber Sleaze, go to http://www.z100.com when you are there, chk out the Cyber Sleaze of Jan 8,1997 An EveryDayAngel, Bryan. "I want to be a space ship and fly away"-BKT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:48:51 +0200 (IST) From: Reggev Michael Subject: Re: NJC: age descrimin-fucking-nation On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Ashe Mayfair wrote: > >if anyone is mad at me for this please dont yell at me...i just had to vent. > Venting is good for the soul. Take it from somone that usta hold > alot of anger in. Vent whenever you can people. Just try to do it in a good > way ;]. Amen to that, brother. 42, Tuff - TIE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:49:58 -0500 (EST) From: EveryDay Angel Subject: Accoustic VS Eletric To begin, I just want to say that I love all of Jewel's accoustic sets. The only comment I have is that when Zed gets his magical hands on that shiny (Gibson?), he makes that baby sing. If you listen to the eletric versions of Satellite (you can downld. at Adam's POY site), you can hear the guitar sing its sweet mealody. With Jewel on vocals and Zed making his guitar sing, our Angel definitely has a powerful combination going for her. An EveryDayAngel, Bryan. "I want to be space ship and fly away"-BKT ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 02:51:58 EST From: neal77@juno.com (Neal Tsay) Subject: JC: Poll/First Single Well in case you failed to notice, In case you failed to see, This is my...POLL I am conducting..... C'mon fellers, I could really use more responses for this thing to work. Thanks to those who have already participated. JUST a reminder, if you haven't done so already, plEAse take half a minute to take part in the EDA First Single Poll (or my results will be all weird and stuff, you know.) Q: What do you want the first single from the next album to be? As posted before, with the exception of a couple of clarifications... *******Here's the way the poll will work.************ 1. Cast your ballot for what you want the first single to be by 11:00 PM PST Friday January 10. Hopefully, I will post the results over the weekend. 2. Since many of you will say "either or ," this is how the ballot will work: a) You will be given 3 votes. Ideally, all 3 votes should be cast for one song. For the indecisive, you may cast 2 for one song and 1 for another, or you may cast 1 vote each for three songs. b) You may ONLY vote for songs on the songlist below. Be sure to mention which version, w/band or solo, electric/acoustic if applicable. c) If you have already voted and want to change your vote, cast another ballot with only the words BALLOT CHANGE in the subject line. 3. Send it to me at Neal77@juno.com, with only the word BALLOT in capital letters in the subject line. >Here's the songlist in case you don't remember. > >TRACKS WITH BAND: >Boy Needs A Bike (aka Ride Away), Carnivore, Jessica (2 versions >electric and acoustic band), Tough Girl, Innocence Maintained, Deep >Water, Satellite, Fragile Heart, Sometimes It Be That Way, Love Me >Just Leave Me Alone, Fading Away, Run Tonto Run > >SOLO ACOUSTIC TRACKS: >Louisa & Her Blue Guitar, Fragile Flame, 1,000 Miles Away, Sometimes >It Be That Way, Run Tonto Run, Grey Matter, The Face Of Love, Nicotine >Love, Moon Over Austin (aka Hotel Angel), Buttercup, Absence Of Fear, Nikos >(reworked under new title) ******************************************************** There it is... Get them ballots rolling... Thanks fellers, - --Neal ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:20:50 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: Re: Adopt-A-Newbie V2.0 >This is how AAN will NOW work : >There will be a set of parents (I'm hoping for 5 or 6 ) that will be >permanent parents. Any time a Newbie wants to be adopted, they >will be "given" to one of these parents. Everything else will work >the same. > Ohhhhhhhhhhhh YEAH!! I remeber this!! :]. I was a newbie (and I mean NEWbie, cus I'm sure that I'm still rated as a newbie) when I frist heard about it and never went for it (didn't really know how). How does everyone think I've done as an orphan? ;]. >2) I NEED PARENTS ! See, this is just the kinda thing I would do... but hey, I AM still a newbie heheeh ;]. - -Ashe Mayfair "Turn my blues skys black. Your such a hard luck baby." -Letters to Cleo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 00:58:02 +0000 From: Tom Morales Subject: [Fwd: January is for Sissies] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------4A926FDB4E1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry, I sent this to both addys just in case. I subscribed to their Rugburn list and this is the first post I got. I guess reading the mail you gave them gave them a little impetus. Thanks for the info on Foothill. We'll see you there. I'm finding less and less time to get on my computer now that school has started back up. - --------------4A926FDB4E1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from emout03.mail.aol.com (emout03.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.94]) by primenet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA04318 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 20:38:44 -0700 (MST) From: RugburnsSD@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout03.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id WAA26366; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:38:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:38:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970108213635_1044363719@emout03.mail.aol.com> Subject: January is for Sissies X-UIDL: 9673388acc47f651cb5c9eeb91017d2b X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Hey Burnouts! I drop my pants to all of you. It's been a long time since we wrote, and John did such a piss poor job with the last mailer, that I thought I'd take things into my own hands. John eats too much papaya, and that has acids which have eaten away significant parts of his brain. That's why he jumps around onstage so much- he's not dancing, he's thinking. The only way he can think now is to jump up and down until an idea comes into his head. We're worried about him, but it's easy to trick hmi out of money now that he's so dumb. Some people wrote to us a few weeks ago, and for some refreshing reason, I decided to be mean to them, and yanno what? It was a lot of fun. I like being mean now, and aspire to be the Meanest Man in California. Eventually, I'll be the Meanest Man in the USA. So for all you who wrote because you were concerned for my health- go to hell. I don't care about you anymore. See! Wasn't that fun?? Well, it was fun for me, and the only thing mean people care about is having all the fun for themselves. You are all jerks. Wow! I'm having a blast!! We did a whole buttload of shows around the midwest and Southern California over the past months. Schuba's, Java Joe's, and Stinky's hotel rooms were some highlights. We played Java Joe's last Friday night for 6 hours- a Rugburns record. Like I care about records anymore. Oh yeah- tell people to buy our albums. Or else I'll send Stinky to come find you and do the dreaded "Blood Haggis Kilt Dance" in front of your families. You don't want that. Trust me. We'll be hitting the road again over the next few months, then back in the studio to work on our 4TH album. Any of you who have seen our recent shows or will attend our new ones have previewed/will hear some of the material we'll be putting on it. And speaking of live shows, why haven't any of you selfish boobs brought chocolate chip cookies to the shows? That's mean, but not as mean as me. Hah! Any of you on America Online should come check out and post in The Rugburns folder in the Music Message Center. The AOL bastards have deleted our folder 4 or 5 times, but we won't die- we'll be the boil on their big, hairy, sweaty ass until they change the name of America Online to "The Rugburns World of Fun, Decadence, and Haggis." Anyway, check it out, post some messages, heckle people, read some messages, all that kind of crap, so's they don't yank our folder again. Go to keyword "MMC", then click the "Alternative" section. At the next menu, click the "General" section, and scroll down a little ways and you'll find our folder, sandwiched between Luscious Jackson and some stupid Mint Records thing. Oh yeah, someone asked me this question yesterday, and I thought I might as well give the answer to all of you, also: Stomach OK, so now you all know the answer. Who cares? And finally, here are our new dates. As always, call the club beforehand to confirm the time, any age restrictions, drink specials, etc. We'll be selling t-shirts and cds at all the shows, for all who've been asking. I'll be the one drinking a beer, btw. Seeya at the shows, kiddies! Yours in Christ, Steven J. Poltz **SPECIAL NOTE*** The January 11h show originally scheduled for the Paradise Lounge, in SF, has been rescheduled to January 23!!! Spread the word, and come to the 23d! January 10 The Foothill Signal Hill, CA January 16 WOW Hall Eugene, OR January 17 The Crocodile Seattle, WA January 18 Belmont's Portland, OR January 21 Hefe's Nightclub Eureka, CA January 22 Tahoe Taps Truckee, CA January 23 Paradise Lounge San Fran, CA January 24 Starry Plough Berkeley, CA January 25 Toe's Tavern Santa Barbara, CA February 8 BellyUp Tavern Solana Beach, CA We'll be moving eastward again after that, so keep your grapes peeled, and we'll send updates as we get new info. Until then, keep on writing! If you know anyone who wants to (abuse themselves and) be a part of this list, tell them to email us at RugburnsSD@aol.com, and write "Subscribe" in the subject line. - --------------4A926FDB4E1-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:11:48 -0800 (PST) From: Raymond Wong Subject: losing JC: Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? Terrence R. Williams wrote: >>I've listened to the live and album versions of I'm Sensitive. I was >>wondering who was singing Jewel's Harmony. >Not that I know, because I don't, but it's entirely possible that she >recorded her own backup track. >If you've heard the song "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, Gwen Steffani backs >herself up. Just records two vocal tracks, one melodic, and one harmonic. >Too bad we can't do that live (split our voices... ) :-) Ever been to shows on some of the experimental bands? Tape loops, digital delays, there are lots of ways to split a voice, and it's not really fair to say it's not live, since A) it was created right there, and B) it's not edited. Sure, it's created by equipment, but is an electric guitar not a live instrument because it needs power? And, just because you mentioned Gwen doing her own backing vocals, I'll point out that it was done over 10 years ago on the first Debbie Gibson album, too(she did some of her own, some were done by others). :) Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@best.com, negativl@netcom.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 04:40:10 EST From: bhartford3rd@juno.com (Bruce D Hartford III) Subject: Re: [Fwd: January is for Sissies] Well, color me a sissy color! Steve thinks he's sooooo cool just 'cause Jewel let him be in her video. He talks about papaya,... sheesh have you ever seen or heard the stories behind all those scars on his head? I doubt he evern wrote that post... sure,... he probably paid some college kid with a better vocabulary to say something and then advertise some Rugburn crapola via that list... Oh, well, I'm joining, anyone else? -Bruce "I spit in Steve's general direction" bhartford3rd@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:55:47 -0600 (CST) From: Ray DeJean Subject: Re: Who sings Harmony on I'm Sensitive? On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Terrence R. Williams wrote: > At 11:34 PM 1/8/97 -0500, you wrote: > >I've listened to the live and album versions of I'm Sensitive. I was > >wondering who was singing Jewel's Harmony. > > > Not that I know, because I don't, but it's entirely possible that she > recorded her own backup track. > > If you've heard the song "Don't Speak" by No Doubt, Gwen Steffani backs > herself up. Just records two vocal tracks, one melodic, and one harmonic. > > Too bad we can't do that live (split our voices... ) :-) It can be done live...remember that group Milli Vanilli that was selling out concerts nationwide? :) Of course i don't think Jewel would do such a thing, but i'll never see her live, so i wouldn't know! :( One question: Jewel, New Orleans, WHEN?? - -Ray rdejean@neosoft.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:23:37 +0200 From: iheber@esoc.esa.de Subject: Jewel duet with Melissa Etheridge Hi guys, a question: I know that there was a Crossroads special on VH-1 with Melissa Etheridge singing duets with different other singers. And Jewel was one of them. Now, they'll NEVER show that in Germany - that's for sure. However, I was wondering if anybody has any idea whether this show will be released on CD? I know of the VH-1 CD that features ME with Joan Osbourne. Or maybe there's somebody out there who would be willing to make a video copy for me? Of course I'd pay for the tape and the postage and everything... Take care, Ilka = ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:13:00 -0500 From: Matthew Milner Subject: CD clubs Hi, Just a quick thought on the cd clubs. First, music is my hobby, I collect cd's, unfortunately, I am in college and can't afford $15 a cd. I can aford to buy them through cd clubs. There are very few artsist that I give enough off a shit about to care whether they get my royalties or not (Prince and Jewel are the only two that come to mind.) Now, I'll admit, I bought Pieces of You through BMG. I had only heard it once, and at the time really could have cared les about royalties. Honestly, and flame me if you like, but I don't feel the least bit sorry. The most Jewel sees froma cd sale is $1 Okay, so I stole a dollar off Jewel, and if everyone did it, it would add up. But If I had had to pay full price, I may never have become a fan, I don't know. Me becoming a fan has led to me paying to attend two of her concerts. Which she makes money off of. I will buy her new album the day it's released, and she'll get her royalties, I will buy anything I can get my hands on now. All because I bought one cd through BMG. Now, has she really lost out? Matt ****************************************************** Matthew Milner mmilner@motown.lmco.com st92homi@post.drexel.edu Lockheed Martin Drexel University AULDLANXIETY (old lang zi' et tee) (n.) Experience of waking up on New Years' Day and wondering how much of a fool you made of yourself. GO FLYERS!!!!!!!! ****************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: Splugorth@aol.com Subject: Re: JC:Acoustic vs. Electric In a message dated 97-01-09 01:25:09 EST, khendry@ic.sunysb.edu (Angel) writes: << Maybe she puts a little of both on her albums, so that everybody is happy, and of course because variety IS the spice of life. Remember, she's pretty darn good at this thing that she does. >> She definately is, and it's her decision. I would just prefer all acoustic. Tony T. Splugorth@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:11:26 -0500 (EST) From: Splugorth@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: age descrimin-f*cking-nation In a message dated 97-01-09 01:33:07 EST, Grrly1@aol.com writes: << I really hate it when SOME people treat me differently because i just happen to be a few years younger than you. (I'm not going to name names, Tom) i have to face age descrimination every day and i dont need it when i am hanging out with the people who are supposed to be my friends, even though you probably only tolerate me because i just happen to show up in the room. >> I would hope that's not true. Everyone young or old can add a new perspective or their opinion. I am 23 and I have several friends that are in the 14-17 range; sometimes what is important to them seems trivial to me. When I think about that I feel really old, because those things seemed very important to me then. Realizing that makes it easier for me to relate. I've found that it's difficult sometimes when they talk about their problems, because I have the answers in many causes, because I've gone through it or I knew someone that did, and telling them can come off sounding like a parental figure and not a peer. Don't expect not to be treated differently, everyone has a preconceived notion whether they admit it or not. What's important is respect. Whoever said "...there are children in the room", and I'm assuming they were not joking, was not showing respect. Besides if they were having that private of a conversation they should have taken it to another room. Tony T. Splugorth@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:36:30 -0500 (EST) From: GraywolfLA@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: age descrimin-*-nation In a message dated 97-01-09 08:14:38 EST, you write: << Whoever said "...there are children in the room", and I'm assuming they were not joking, was not showing respect. >> Welll, seems to me I recall a chat a week or 2 ago where I was having a little risque banter, and said that we better hold off, there are children in the room. OF COURSE I was joking!! Anyone who isn't "clueless" would've (and did) know that! No disrespect was intended. There was no reasonable way to misinterpret THAT one. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 06:24:19 -0800 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: Re: [Fwd: January is for Sissies] - ------------B71B33AF54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Hey Burnouts! > > I drop my pants to all of you. It's been a long time since we wrote, and > John did such a piss poor job with the last mailer, that I thought I'd take > things into my own hands. I figured it out. Steve Poltz is a Harris Brother. Igor - ------------B71B33AF54 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Hey Burnouts!
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> I drop my pants to all of you.  It's been a long time since we wrote, and
> John did such a piss poor job with the last mailer, that I thought I'd take
> things into my own hands.<snip>
 
I figured it out.  Steve Poltz is a Harris Brother.
 
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- ------------B71B33AF54-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:13:18 -0800 From: xenomorph@sprynet.com Subject: Re: Accoustic VS Eletric - Satellite note Hi everyone, I just wanted to make an added clarification on this note. On the particular electric Satellite on my Pieces of Jewel (till Saturday only as Wav of the Week) site, that is Marc Schulman on guitar. He knows it best since he fleshed it out at Bearsville. Adam Pieces of Jewel Http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/xenomorph/jewelmn.htm Fiona Apple - Shadowboxer Http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/poj/fiona.htm On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, EveryDay Angel wrote: If you listen to the eletric >versions of Satellite (you can downld. at Adam's POY site), you can hear >the guitar sing its sweet mealody. With Jewel on vocals and Zed making >his guitar sing, our Angel definitely has a powerful combination going >for her. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:08:09 -0700 (MST) From: Chopped Liver Subject: That stupid story about Jewel in the ariport You are getting better. It was definitly more believable than the "I hugged Jewel" story. But it doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why. The day before your story.... (Wavy flashback effect) I was in Las Vegas on my anual New Year's gambling jaunt. As I walked in front of the Grand, Jewel stepped out the main entrance wearing a mini skirt and a light blue shiney blouse. She was carrying Big Blue. ' Jewel', I says, 'Jewel, is that you? I love your music'. And she says, 'Thanks, you overweight, slighly balding, short but somehow extremely attractive man.' And she flashed me that enormous smile of hers. 'Well, what are you doing in Vegas?,' I asks. She says, 'Was on my way to LA, met Elton here on the plane (God, there was Elton John standing next to her, hadn't noticed him because of Jewel's brilliance), and we decide to stop off for some fun. Would you like to join us?' 'Well, yeah', says I. I won't go into all the detail about the shows, the little impromptu concerts that Jewel and Elton gave. I sang harmony when Jewel invited me over to her mike. I think her favorite song must be Afternoon Delight, we sang that one at every street corner. Anyway, it was about 3 in the morning and we were all getting a little rummy. Jewel blurted out, 'Marry me, Chopped. I've never been married. Let's do it'. So J, E and me, we went over the the Graceland 24 hour wedding chapel, got our Elvis constumes on (all of us) and I married Jewel Kilcher. The King himself was there that night (or should I say the Revered King) an did the ceremony. When he said, 'You may kiss the bride', I grabbed Elton and gave him a big smacker on the lips. The we all laughed and went next door to the Graceland 24 hour divorce chapel and untied the knot. Then Jewel and Elton said they had to catch a direct flight to San Diego and we said goodbye. I caught my bus for the 14 hour ride home and thought how I could never top that evening, atleast not for another year. (Wavy flashforward effects) So, you see, your story couldn't be true because she took a flight to San Diego, not LA. Chopped "I Married Jewel" Liver ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 05:13:28 -0800 From: Andrew Sullivan Subject: NJC: Bunch 'o' stuff Just a few quite non-Jewel related questions here... Are there any New Zealanders on the list? "Calling all New Zealanders. Please report to emailing Terminal 4". If there is I'd really appreciate a mail. Is the banner that is described in the "Jewel content: Swaddled in Bliss" mailings the official banner of the EDA's? Could I have all the measurements, colours and stuff for it as I'm going to make one here. If it isn't then should we look at making an official EDA banner (logo aswell)? Would anyone like to explain to me what the following things are exactly? (I have no idea or only a vague one) : VH1, MTV, Crossroads, SPAM And, (I'm really tired and feel faint at the thought of searching through all my mail to find who it was) could somebody tell me who is (and email addy) organizing all the biz with the EDA wear? If there is one actual person that is. "Not more mail!" - Andrew/Rugrat Andrew/Rugrat ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:31:23 -0500 (EST) From: Angel Subject: Re: That stupid story about Jewel in the ariport > stop off for some fun. Would you like to join us?' 'Well, yeah', says I. > I won't go into all the detail about the shows, the little impromptu > concerts that Jewel and Elton gave. I sang harmony when Jewel invited me > over to her mike. I think her favorite song must be Afternoon Delight, we > sang that one at every street corner. Anyway, it was about 3 in the > morning and we were all getting a little rummy. Jewel blurted out, 'Marry > me, Chopped. I've never been married. Let's do it'. So J, E and me, we Mr. chopped Liver I really doubt that this is anywhere even close to real. I guess it was a nice effort but I know that JK did in fact not marry you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Maybe in your dreams or something. > So, you see, your story couldn't be true because she took a flight to San > Diego, not LA. Actually you are wrong. The flight that Bob saw Jewel come off of was one coming from NY, not Vegas, so I don't know what you are talking about. And if your story suppossedely happened the day before, well that's all fine and dandy, but Jewel was in NY the day before. -k > Chopped "I Married Jewel" Liver WHATEVER -katherine ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #17 **************************