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jewel-digest         Friday, December 13 1996         Volume 01 : Number 861



                               Today's Subjects:
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       NJC- a sad day -(
       NJC: midwest EDA gathering
       NJC:  sinner!
       How old is Jewel?
       LA-KROQ concert, wanna go?!?
       The Birth of JewelStock
       Re: Re[2]: jo: Any KROQ Tapers for Today!!!
       Re: Re[2]: jo: Any KROQ Tapers for Today!!!
       NJC: I'm baaack
       YWMFM sighting...
       Jewel Tab
       NJC: I swear I'm a nice person:)
       SJC: GOOD website!
       NJC: Our Swedish connection! +
       Re: Another look into my twisted mind.
       new list???--please!!!
       KROQ show on DAT
       Re: jewel stuff
       NJC:  gry joke
       re: Mr BBs last post for a while...
       Re: Cleveland/ Re: Radio
       Re: <NAR> GOOD TIMES VIRUS!!
       Re: please read this (fwd) NJC!
       Re: now NJC: Re: ...& "new" No Doubt
       Re: NJC: Fwd: Virus Alert! Please Read!!!! (fwd)
       NJC: My latest poem
       NJC:  Friday the thriteenth BL#$S!!
       Re: please read this (fwd) NJC!
       Re: JewelStock Tapes/Mr BBs last post for a while...Connell vents
       Re: NJC  Igor info wanted

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Date: 13 Dec 1996 13:44:48 U
From: "L Babauta" <lbabauta@pdn.guam.net>
Subject: NJC- a sad day -(

                      Subject:                              Time:  1:28 PM
  OFFICE MEMO         NJC: a sad day :(                     Date:  12/14/96
Hi Angels,

Guam's top local music legend, J.D. Crutch, died today. It's a really sad day for
me and the rest of Guam. It may not mean much to you, but on this island it's
like a big-name musician like John Lennon or Gerry Garcia dying. He stands out
among Guam's other musicians like an Angel above a junkyard. The rest of our
musicians sing cheesy, corny, sappy songs, which a lot of people like. J.D.
Crutch sang with emotion, meaning, and could carry a beautiful tune as well.
He's been giving us great music for 25 years, and it's a tragedy that he won't
be making more.

I'm sure not many of you care about this, but it's just such a sad day for me
that I had to share it with you all. Thanks for listening.

Cheers,
Leo
the mourning tropical angel

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 10:13:44 -0600 (CST)
From: "Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng beaver." <tgavin@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: NJC: midwest EDA gathering

I'm going to be off the list over Xmas break, so will someone please 
write me or call me at home if there is any headway made on a time or 
place?  I'm planning on going to chicago sometime dring january anyway, 
so my vote goes for chicago.  I'll probably go wherever, though, so maybe 
my vote shouldn't count.  Anyway, here's my stats:

Home Address:

Tim Gavin
1210 Adeline
Dubuque, IA  52003
# (319) 556-0450

MY college address:

100 Mayflower Hall #437C
Iowa City, Iowa  52242


I would greatly appreciate it if someone kept me in touch.  Thank you!

tim

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:56:45 -0600 (CST)
From: "Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng beaver." <tgavin@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: NJC:  sinner!

  I'm sorry, Lehmann, but I won't be going to christian hell for 
idolatry, because Sister Jane (my first grade teacher) told me I was 
bound for hell.  When you're condemned at age seven, you tend to stop 
caring anymore.  I'm a card-carrying heretic now.  Besides, hell isn't 
that bad a place, it's how you look at it.  Piers Anthony draws a really 
neat picture of hell, and Neil Gaiman believes it was sold to the highest 
bidder a couple of years back.  Whatever.  See everyone after Xmas!

tim gavin

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:19:55 +0000
From: Andrew.Fu@randomc.com
Subject: How old is Jewel?

You  know, I thought Jewel was around 22 or something... But when she 
was being interviewed on the MTV Winter Lodge thingy, she was asked 
how old she was and she replied "um, 18."

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:17:30 -0500
From: JenniferY@aol.com
Subject: LA-KROQ concert, wanna go?!?

If anyone out there is in the LA area (or planning to be) and wants to go see
Tori, Jewel, Sarah, etc. but doesn't have tickets (like me) [or who has an
extra one that I can buy?!} please call me at the Ramada West Hollywood on
Santa Monica (don't have the # yet, sorry) Friday and maybe we can meet
somewhere and hopefully get tickets!!!!

I really want to go to this show!!! Help....

Jennifer Yeko

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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:06:34 -0800
From: Ken Jones <jonesk%hua1@hauchuca-emh11.army.mil>
Subject: The Birth of JewelStock

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Greetings,

	I am Ken Jones, a very recently annointed Jewel Fan. I would appreciate
any information that could possibly be sent to me via your Jewel
discussion group. 
	I am active duty Army, stationed in the "Middle of Nowhere" in Arizona,
known as Fort Huachuca, and would like to know where the closest place
is that she will be touring.
	Again, thanks for your time... My e-mail address is: 
jonesk@huachuca-emh1.army.mil
	Much appreciation for your time, help and efforts in bringing Jewel
Fans together. Keep up the good work!

					Sincerely,
			
					Ken Jones
					USAIC& FH Public Affairs

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As the Internet grows, there is a growing concern that it will divide our populace and de-humanize our society. Disproving this contention is the recent experience of an online fan discussion group for the singer/poet Jewel Kilcher.<P>

After many months of online communication, dedicated members of the <STRONG>jewel@smoe.org</STRONG> mail list group found themselves meeting face-to-face in the historic Bearsville Theatre near Woodstock, New York. Aside from limited contact at local Jewel performances, most participants had never met before. Fans ranged in ages from 15-50, with diverse interests that seemed to include only one common focal point: Jewel and her music.<P>

In light of today's high profile marketing of musical artists, the events that led to this unlikely rendevous are even more remarkable.<P>

In response to a list members off-hand request, Jewel agreed to give a private concert for the list members. Through Hiranya, a Jewel management contact and sometimes participant in the list group discussions, Jewel made an early June post agreeing to do a private performance. The response from the list was phenomenal, with the event quickly being given the label "JewelStock" for its close proximity to the Woodstock community.<P>
 
One of Hiranya's stipulations was that list members would 
handle most of the arrangements. List members in the Woodstock area stepped forward to do just that. Fans Mike Connell and Richard Chang coordinated communications with other list members across the country, with many of the arrangements handled by Lenedra Carroll, Jewel's mother and manager. Other members pitched in, establishing a web site for distributing information, designing event tee-shirts and buttons, and coordinating rides across the United States. The latter effort was cleverly dubbed "Angel Needs a Ride" after a popular Jewel song.<P>

While this event started out as a private party and concert for the members of the list group and their guests, it soon evolved into a two night affair as a second concert was added, to be held for the benefit of the Bearsville Theatre operating budget.<P>

The theatre venue was selected as it was being used for rehersals, and its close proximity to the studio Jewel was recording her followup album to "Pieces of You," which is quickly reaching platinum status. The Thursday night, July 18th concert was closed to the general public, and free to all list members who traveled to see Ms. Kilcher perform. Tickets for a second show on the following night was partially open to the public. All proceeds from the $15 ticket price went to benefit the Bearsville Theatre.<P>

Fans traveled from across the United States, most carpooling, some from as far away as California. Jewel has a loyal and dedicated fan base, with as many as 450 routinely participating in discussion via the e-mail based discussion group. Much of the discussions concern Jewel's lyrics, show reviews and well-meant advice and banter between list members. Humor is a trademark of these fans. Universally, they have taken for themselves the moniker of "EveryDay Angels," a term taken from the Jewel song "I'm Sensitive."<P>

<BLOCKQUOTE>"I'd rather see the world from another angle,<BR>
<STRONG>We are EveryDay Angels,</STRONG><BR>
Be careful with me 'cause I'd like to stay that way."</BLOCKQUOTE>

A&M recording artist Patty Griffin opened for Jewel on Thursday night, followed by poetry readings and singing by Jewel. This was a hardcore group of Jewel fans, wanting to hear her lesser known live material, currently commercially unavailable. Appropriately, the one song neither requested nor sung was her current mega-hit single "Who Will Save Your Soul?" After the show, both artists met with the fans for autographs and pictures. After Jewel retired, list members continued socializing until the wee hours of the morning at various local parties.<P>

Live performances from both shows were taped for possible inclusion in Jewel's new album, which is scheduled for release in January of 1997.<P>

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:08:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Laura Marie Hanson <web2350@charweb.org>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: jo: Any KROQ Tapers for Today!!!

On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Becky Witter-R26405 wrote:

> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:16:00 -0600
> From: Becky Witter-R26405 <Becky_Witter-R26405@email.mot.com>
> To: agentorange2@juno.com, maclen@ix.netcom.com,
>     joan-osborne-fan2fan@rockweb.com,
>     juliana_hatfield@uclink4.Berkeley.EDU, angry-psychos@smoe.org,
>     SCFANCLUB@aol.com, cantnot@smoe.org, jewel@smoe.org
> Subject: Re[2]: jo: Any KROQ Tapers for Today!!!
> 
> On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:19:08 -0800 maclen@ix.netcom.com (Rob) writes:
> >Hi all. Well, this is really not Joan related but I am asking any of you
> that
> >live on the West Coast for your help. Today KRoq will be broadcasting
> their annual >xmas concert featuring:
> >(Garbage,Tori Amos,Fiona Apple,Sheryl Crow,Jewel,Poe,Natalie
> >Merchant,Sarah McLachian,Tracy Bonham & Cardigans)
> >
> >If you can, or will be taping this please email me.
> >Thanks - Rob
> 
> hey...i too would love to get a hold of this.  if anyone tapes this,
> please let me know...i will trade or send you blanks and $ for return
> postage... i really need the tori amos, sheryl crow, jewel, & poe
> segments (that's what i can also trade for), but i would also love to
> hear the others as well.  please let me know.  (hey rob, great idea!, let
> me know if you get a copy.)
> -rusty (agentorange2@juno.com)
> 
> I must put my request in for this too.  Let me know what anyone might need for a 
> copy.  A radio station in Phoenix was giving away a trip to L.A. to see this 
> show.  Of course, I didn't win.  Oh well!  
> 
> Becky
> 

	At the risk of getting beamed on the head with a can of Spam, 
I too would like to put in my request!!!!!  Does anyone know if someone is
ACTUALLY gonna get copies?  Thanks!

					Laura :)

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:50:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Vidyut Luther <alphab@universe.digex.net>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: jo: Any KROQ Tapers for Today!!!

please add me to this list of never ending list of people who want tapes.
I amm willing to pay $ for postage and send blank tapes in return, oi
don't gave any bootlegs or anything so uhh i guess i can't offer anything
like tat. 
PS: if you have any alanis morrisstete bootlegs and stuff lemme know I WAN
THEM and be willing to pay $25 for a bootleg


Vidyut Luther	
http://www.universe.digex.net/~alphab/

On Fri, 13 Dec 1996, Becky Witter-R26405 wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Dec 1996 04:19:08 -0800 maclen@ix.netcom.com (Rob) writes:
> >Hi all. Well, this is really not Joan related but I am asking any of you
> that
> >live on the West Coast for your help. Today KRoq will be broadcasting
> their annual >xmas concert featuring:
> >(Garbage,Tori Amos,Fiona Apple,Sheryl Crow,Jewel,Poe,Natalie
> >Merchant,Sarah McLachian,Tracy Bonham & Cardigans)
> >
> >If you can, or will be taping this please email me.
> >Thanks - Rob
> 
> hey...i too would love to get a hold of this.  if anyone tapes this,
> please let me know...i will trade or send you blanks and $ for return
> postage... i really need the tori amos, sheryl crow, jewel, & poe
> segments (that's what i can also trade for), but i would also love to
> hear the others as well.  please let me know.  (hey rob, great idea!, let
> me know if you get a copy.)
> -rusty (agentorange2@juno.com)
> 
> I must put my request in for this too.  Let me know what anyone might need for a 
> copy.  A radio station in Phoenix was giving away a trip to L.A. to see this 
> show.  Of course, I didn't win.  Oh well!  
> 
> Becky
> 

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:56:40 -0500
From: William Chinda <wc81@ao.net>
Subject: NJC: I'm baaack

Will Chinda back here. If anyone tried to e-mail me in the past 2 months or
so, you probably found out that my old addy no longer exists.  You can blame
that on the sob who robbed my house and stole my computer and all my Gen13
comics.

Well, it was a crappy computer anyways, so it doesn't really matter.

So if anyone needs to reach me, I now have this brand new, easy to type addy.

If anyone can tell me about the important stuff that happened recently (JS
tape tree phase 2, how was Farm Aid, will Jewel come to Florida, etc), it
will be most appreciated.

Later,

W. Chinda

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:03:41 -0500
From: William Pompilii <wp-rael@ix4.ix.netcom.com>
Subject: YWMFM sighting...

Where is the oddest place you've, unexpectedly, heard YWMFM?  I work at
a deli in a grocery store, and everybody knows how CHEESEY the music is
at grocery stores! Right!  Well, believe it or not, right smack dab in
the middle between a horrible version of Jingle Bell Rock and a
Pillsbury Dough Boy (he-he) commercial, sure enough, YWMFM started
playing!!!!  I might actually start enjoying going to work now!  Well,
then again, maybe not.

Bill P.   
- -- 
There's an angel standing in the sun, and he's crying with a loud voice,
"This is the supper of the mighty one".
Lord of Lord's, King of King's, Has returned to lead his children home,
To take them to the new Jerusalem.
				-Supper's Ready by Genesis

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 23:58:45 +0000
From: ewf96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: Jewel Tab

I'm looking for guitar tab for "Let's go back to bed".  So far i 
haven't been able to find it anywhere.  Got any leads for me?

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Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 11:02:25 -0500
From: toni@indy.net (Kitty)
Subject: NJC: I swear I'm a nice person:)

        Whoa! I had a whole bunch of messages forwarded to me. Apparently
everyone thinks that I'm pissed off at people on the list. NOT TRUE! I had
to unsubscribe from the list because of what I put in my letter. I have
some personal things and finals comming up. And it's true that I was WAY
behind on my mail, and it just kept piling up. So I'm not mad at anyone, I
never was-Toni

"I think I'll write a letter home, telling everybody that I'm happy
alone."-Patti Rothberg

"Don't you love her madly?
Don't you need her badly?
Don't you love her as she's walking out the door,
Like she did 10,000 times before"- The Doors

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:28:38 -0600 (CST)
From: dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu
Subject: SJC: GOOD website!

Ok, this is about another singer/songwriter named Michele Solberg.  She's
from Austin, TX and I have seen her peform once before.  I have her CD and must
say (as many others have) that if you like Jewel you'll most likely like
Michele.  She has her own style of course, but show lots of similarity to
Jewel.  Anyway, she has her own website, with samples of ALL her songs off
both of her CD's so everyone can go and see for themselves what they think.
She mostly plays around Texas, but hopes one day to go national.  Her new CD,
Liquid, is supposed to be selling nationally, but it might be difficult to find.
I think she deserves a listen from all of you though.  Here's the address:
http://micsol.hf.utexas.edu/
See what you think!  I'm going to see her tomorrow for the second time.  She's
already been given several nice comments about her music from others on the
list and some various newspapers, one of which also compared her to Jewel.
Here's a quote from her..."I need all the help I can get with exposure and
the net is great in that way for me. I would love to go national with the band."
I think, as with Jewel, the internet IS a great place for more exposure.
Hope everyone is pleasantly surprised with her music.  :-)
Derrick

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:08:17 -0500 (EST)
From: asv@po.CWRU.edu (Amelia S. Vlah)
Subject: NJC: Our Swedish connection! +

heya folks...
    complete clutter info for all of you that care:
  I TALKED TO ALEXANDER TODAY! (oh sorry AlexUnder) as in on the phone, as
in I got to hear that cute Swedish accent he doesn't have. I know you all
care and are insanely jealous.  I thought it was pretty exciting. ok. that's
all about that.
    I think I've got ANOTHER person joining the list... and Jewel is in the
options for our concert next semester... so...!!!!!!! big 'ol EDA party in
Cleveland if that is the case!! :)
did I mention I talked to Alex today??
Peace,
 Mia!
~~~~~
Vale et me ama,
Amelia S. Vlah   *turtle*
asv@po.cwru.edu

      "You will die, no doubt, but die while living
       In depths of azure, rapt and mated,
       Kissing the queen-bee, Life!"
                        E.L. Masters
      

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:39:30 -0500
From: Dollphini@aol.com
Subject: Re: Another look into my twisted mind.

That was really spiffy Thirza.  I really liked it, cause it kinda sounds like
something I'd write, about liking the darkness and stuff, I think I was a
vampire in my past life or something.  Have you written anything else that
you haven't shared yet?  If you have, even if you're not going to post it on
the list mail it to me okay, I'd love to see it.


                                          Amber  

(P.S Only 13 dayz till I"m gonna be 14, hint hint!!!!)

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:48:53 -0500
From: Patric Oesterheld <nascar90@interserf.net>
Subject: new list???--please!!!

*** I wanted to make sure everyone had the chance to see this-- it's NJC, so
go on at your own risk***


I was gonna keep quiet- but I decided that I ain't. So to those that don't
want to read this--F#@* you- delete this post. To those of you who know me
or want to read it, read on.

        Today we lost a list vet. Mr. Bershaw has done a ton of stuff on
this list that has allowed us to enjoy Jewel's music. He was a post man for
JS, keeps trees going, and has been an all around "Mr. Fix it" for some of
the problems that have ailed the list. He may be on a power trip(doubt it),
but he's also one of the 3...4 most important people on the list as far as
the things that we all enjoy here--like the personal contact to jewel, tape
trees, etc. If you don't think that Alan is an all around nice guy--ask
Chelsea. 
All I've got to say about this is that it's about time he left-- not for our
good, for sure, but for his own. NO ONE- NO ONE should get a message like
the one he got from some snot nosed brat that wields a keyboard as his only
weapon. You wuss--don't bring a water pistol to a gun fight.

        I mentioned this to the EDA's at the Patriot Center show, and I
think it's about time to mention it to a few on the list. I'd like to
explore the possibility of creating an invite only Jewel list. I'm not
advocating censorship of the list--just a place where the EDA's that have
proven their time could be in residence. Call me nostalgic, but I miss the
old days when the volume of the list was not much different than today, but
everyone was civil to each other, and the only flames came privately(not to
mention were civil). Igor's flame was stern, but civil, and taught me a lot
about the list, and etiquette(some of you need to look it up). Someone could
keep up with the regular list and reccomend people to be invited on the
list. That way, no one would have to read list celebs posts, etc.- we could
remove our clutter from the list.
        When I joined the list, I didn't beg for tapes-- I read the posts
and got to know people. Eventually, I saw that Gerrit did some dubbing. I
ASKED him to do a few for me, and I've always sent extra tapes to him.
Nothing comes for free in this life, kiddies. For his kindness, I've even
helped him to get a few things he didn't have. For my kindness, he is always
awesome about doing tapes, no matter how many I ask for. I hope that he
would say our relationship has benefitted him as well as getting me many
tapes. The point is, that I never considered Alan or Mike or Selena to be
the list tape copiers. I read messages and found out who would do it. Now no
one wants to read messages--they just want to get their tapes and go. If
that's you--STAY OFF THE LIST- just get on the web and find traders--you'll
get tapes, and you don't have to waste our time or test our patience.

Sorry for the long post--I doubt many of you get this far. This list has
done extraordinary things for me. I've met people that I consider the finest
on the earth. Evidently Jewel sees it, too. That's why she always smiles
when she sees us at shows, and why she takes our requests--even when she
doesn't know the words;). Some of the new people on the list will never
understand this. All you want is tapes-I hope you get 'em and get the hell
off of what used to be a really awesome list. I know I'll get flamed for
this, but I don't care anymore. I'll probably get flamed by some of the
people that are the most special to me-that's okay, too. I know how to take
flames and learn from them. What I do care about is the fact that today we
lost one of the corner posts of this list because some asswipe that couldn't
carry Alan's dirty underwear. I hope that Alan isn't so disgusted that he
quits the list altogether-- then again, it would serve the list right.

                                                Take Care,
                                                        Patric

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:05:51 -0800 (PST)
From: GRACE JULIA LEE <moles@ucla.edu>
Subject: KROQ show on DAT

To the EDA wanting to tree...

	I'm planning on taping this show onto DAT tonight and tomorrow 
night, though I know most of the EDAs are most interested in tonight's 
performance.  I've already told Alan I'm taping, but in case Gerrit or 
anyone else want to starts a tree, please contact me initially.  I'm sure 
we are all hoping Jewel performs tonight after hearing of her illness 
this week.  This is no guarantee everything will be perfectly tapes, last 
year one of my wires failed, so if you plan on taping, keep doing so.

P.s. I heard through KROQ something about a web site for the concert, 
with performers interacting with web surfers throughout the night.

Steve T. 

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:19:35 -0600
From: Bill & Carrie <dallfin@flash.net>
Subject: Re: jewel stuff

I would like to put in my various comments.  I happen to think is very
pretty!  She is pretty so much as in the physical sense as her
personality she has and how nice she is.  I think that is the thing that
turly makes her beautiful!  I truly admire her for being so kind and
wonderful to her fans!  Not many artist out toady would take the time to
do any of the things that she does.

Now for chirstmas songs i have to say GRANDMA GOT RUN OVER BY A
REINDEER! Now don't ya think Jewel would do a great version of this!  I
think it would be really funny & Kewl!

I would also like to thnks the nice people who have welcomed me to this
wonderful list. Thanks!

I am looking forward to getting to know all of you EDA's you all are
very nice and special people!

Merry Christmas everyone!

Carrie :)

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:41:07 -0500
From: jsclose <jsclose@earthlink.net>
Subject: NJC:  gry joke

Hey!  I know about a month ago there was a joke circulating on the list 
about three words in the English language that end in -gry.  Two were 
hungry and angry and you were supposed to figure out the third.  I 
ignored the messages at the time but now the joke is circulating at the 
hospital where I work and I thought maybe someone here remembers the 
answer.  If you know it please email me PRIVATELY.
Sandy Close
jsclose@earthlink.net

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:02:56 -0500
From: Gerry Lipnowski <glipnows@qc.bell.ca>
Subject: re: Mr BBs last post for a while...

(I'm sorry for the length of this, but....)

Alan,
As God is my witness, I SWEAR I was going to send you a private e-mail
to you today even before I read this very distressing message.

When I was reading some of the recent discussions about the so-called
list celebs, I was prompted (for no real reason) to write you to say how
much I appreciate your participation in this list. I'm still a fairly
new person here, but my few interactions with you have been pleasurable,
and you've been encouraging, and I wanted to acknowledge that. 

In light of your most recent message, however, what I choose to say is
this.


More importantly than my direct experience - in fact more importantly
even than your role in the Jewelstock tapes project, which was a
defining characteristic for many of us on the list - is what you bring
to this list each day. It's far more than being a conduit to Jewel for
us. It's who you are EVERYDAY that enriches this list.  I don't want to
diminish for a second my respect for our common ideal that everyone's
participation on this list is what makes it special. However, people
such as yourself and Mike Connell, and others I won't name right now,
really epitomize (for me) the best of what we are. We are not just here
for special occasions and events. We are EVERYDAY angels. I've seen the
list members be there for each other EVERY day. And you are one of those
who have actively and consistently participated with your informative
and entertaining warmth and humour.

This is the important part.

Alan, I beseech you to reconsider your decision. I'm tired - so
unbelievably tired - of seeing the good guys, the majority of people,
lose out to the minority of those people who are malovelent, ignorant
and inconsiderate. I don't think I believe in good and evil in the
religious sense, but I sure believe there are good and evil behaviours,
good and evil values, good and evil actions.  Alan, by letting those few
selfish ingrates drive you away from actively participating on this
list, you are letting evil have a victory over the 99 per cent of us who
will be deprived of your presence.

I know this sounds corny, but I'm dead serious. I can only imagine how
hurt you must have felt to have come to this decision, and if time away
is what you need, I know we must respect that. But don't the good guys
deserve to win sometimes? 


I will be away from my e-mail for the next three days, so I won't even
know whether you've responded until Tuesday, but I sincerely hope that
your return will preceed mine. 

Let me conclude by saying although I've met Jewel, I've never met any of
the EDA's on this list, but I look forward to the day when that changes.
And Alan, it will genuinely be just as important to me as meeting Jewel
was to be able to shake your hand and buy you a drink in the spirit of
fellowship that you deserve.

Regards,

Gerry

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 20:52:09 -0600 (CST)
From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" <unde002a@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Cleveland/ Re: Radio

> or 44026, 44040, 44114.  
> 
> I'll give a nice prize to anyone who can give me one GOOD reason why the
> *!#& a theatre major needs to take math. really.. I'm serious here.
> 

As one theater major to another...all I can say is that there is no reason
(I personally think it's all a McCarthy-ism type plot dreamed up by Jesse
Helms to destroy the NEA and bewilder actors).  *Whew* thank God I never
half to do Algebra again...

SenztvRtst
"Who needs brains when you've got batteries?"
							-Snoopy

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:01:11 -0600 (CST)
From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" <unde002a@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: Re: <NAR> GOOD TIMES VIRUS!!

Oh Lord, once again this list has put me on-the-floor-laughing.  whoever
sent the good times message (and the guy who originaally wrote it) are now
defintely in my cool book (and underlined twice)
Boy, I love you guys....

SenztvRtst
Kermit
Scooter

P-on-the-S somebody mentioned maybe sometime in an alternate universe lst
tuesday around 3-ish that there may just possibly at some undefined time
in a probable future be a gathering of EDA's in Chicago?  If so, I'm all
for it and would appreciate some details...

"God is a comedian, with an audience that's afraid to laugh."
				-Nietzsche

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:17:15 -0600 (CST)
From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" <unde002a@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: Re: please read this (fwd) NJC!

> >Here's an easy, no-cost way to help a child at the Holidays;
> >Houghton Mifflin Publishing Corp. will donate 1 book to a Children's
> >Hospital for every 25 emails which they receive.
> 
> >email them at:              SHARE@HMCO.COM
> 

Damn!  This is GREAT idea and I think all EDA's could take just a minute
to send an E-mail off (I just did).  If we all sent that would be, what,
around 300 Emails?  That's 12 books! (see, I can do math, even though I am
an actor).
Also, just exactly what books do they send to these kids?  I actually put
a few suggestions into my E-mail (not that they'll pay any attention to
that)  And can you E-mail more than once?  Or does that not count.

Just wondering,

SenztvRtst
Kermit
Scooter

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Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 21:28:35 -0700
From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek)
Subject: Re: now NJC: Re: ...& "new" No Doubt

>So I guess Trauma could be a big label... but I doubt it consedering
>I've heard of Interscope and never of Trauma.

Trauma is a branch of Interscope.  While not as big as Epic
or Sony or Atlantic etc. etc. it does have the backing of the
big one, Atlantic.  See, Warner owns Atlantic which owns
Interscope which owns or controls Trauma.  This way you
don't have an R&B guru producing Heavy Metal or a Grunge
lover trying to piece together a Rap album.   Each label sticks
to it's own genre of music.

Trauma is also in the same league as Nothing Records which
is managed by Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails fame....
who knows... maybe No Doubt will have their own label some
day.

Chris

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:25:50 -0600 (CST)
From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" <unde002a@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: Re: NJC: Fwd: Virus Alert! Please Read!!!! (fwd)

>      Subject:  Virus Alert
>      Importance:  High
>      If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it
>      WITHOUT

Well, it looks like "Same S**t, Different Name"
I'm assuming this is as bogus as the good old legendary "Good Times" (I'm
still giggling from that last good times past).
Has anybody else heard anything about it?

SenztvRtst
Kermit
Scooter

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Date: 14 Dec 1996 03:32:02 -0000
From: "Derrick Chhay" <cricket99@hotmail.com>
Subject: NJC: My latest poem

Hi everyone. Last night I wrote a poem. It took me all day to think about it and
write it. It's really short and it really sucks. Let me know what you think,
okay?

High Authority
by Derrick Chhay

Tear soaked hands are hiding me
My body in suspension
As I count happiness
I start to envy
They are praised and glorified
Fantasy has embodied their souls
We are dirt
They step on us with no care
They steal our pride and faith
What have we to live for?
All my beliefs have been shattered
like a jar striking the ground
Every piece is a thought
Let their end be an augury
Let it restore my faith
Let me face my world with open eyes
They can't bring me down
They can only make me stronger

Epilogue:We see people like this everyday. We envy all these people who have
found happiness but are not willing to share it with us. We look at ourselves
and are ashamed. We look at them and it makes us feel worthless. They don't
care about us because they've already found what they're looking for. Some of
them humiliate us because we don't fit their standards. Everything that we work
for, they turn into garbage. What's the use of living? I mean, what's the use
of going on when you're gonna get stomped on anyways? Why don't we just end our
lives? This might be a shock to you, but I have to admit that I've thought
about that before. Yeah, I've been talked about behind my back. And I've been
put down too. Mostly by people you would never expect to put me down...like my
parents. When I said in the poem, "Let their end be an augury," I wasn't
referring to death. I meant that I hope that the way they put me down and the
way they're never proud of me ends some day. Until that happens, I'm not gonna
let them or anyone else put me down or let them get in the way of doing what I
wanna do in life. I've accomplished a lot of stuff in my 16 years of life and
it's not gonna stop there. I'm gonna keep on thinking the way I've always
thought and I'm gonna keep on doing what I've always done. I'm not gonna let
people like this tell me that I'm stupid or that I don't know anything. I only
have one chance to live, so I might as well make the best of it.

Derrick
"PeaceLoveLife"-FB

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:38:07 -0500
From: PhatJoe2@aol.com
Subject: NJC:  Friday the thriteenth BL#$S!!

This happens to be my first post and it unfortunately doesn't have much to do
with Jewel.  I was never a supersticious person before today.  After waiting
seventeen years to find out if i get into college my letter happens to arrive
on FRI. the thirteenth.  This week I had been receiving very positive
signals.  However, when i opened the letter I found out that i had been
differed.  I was crippled in my chair with disappointment.  My former/soon to
be again girlfriend in Brazil got in and I have to wait untill April for the
final decision.  I was so close to ultimate bliss and now i am so far.
 Luckily??, this has been the biggest disappointment in my life.  I am
waiting for this to fully sink in.  Unfortunately, I am still in that stage
of, "I really hope this is another bad dream."  The hardest part is being
really happy for my "gf".  Thanks for listening.

Joey
- --You hands are in my hair, but my heart is in your teeth.  JK (Near You
Always)--

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 22:41:46 -0500
From: Splugorth@aol.com
Subject: Re: please read this (fwd) NJC!

In a message dated 96-12-13 22:17:45 EST, unde002a@frank.mtsu.edu (BRADLEY C.
PORTER) writes:

<< Damn!  This is GREAT idea and I think all EDA's could take just a minute
 to send an E-mail off (I just did).  If we all sent that would be, what,
 around 300 Emails?  That's 12 books! (see, I can do math, even though I am
 an actor). >>

   Let me know how much junk e-mail you get in the next couple of weeks.
 Just kind of curious.
   Maybe it's the eternal pessimist in me, but it sounds like this company is
trying to build a e-mailing list for the cost of a few books, assuming they
will actually donate these books.

Tony T.

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 21:46:33 -0600 (CST)
From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" <unde002a@frank.mtsu.edu>
Subject: Re: JewelStock Tapes/Mr BBs last post for a while...Connell vents

> 
> 
> -Jeffrey, with no interesting quote in his .sig-
> 
> Oh, I just thought of one! 
> 
> "Sunny days - sweeping the - coulds a-way....'
> 				- Anonymous
> 
I may be wrong, but isn't that the first line to the theme from Sesame
Street?  Actually, I guess it could still be anonymous cause who know who
wrote it, but....well....I guess I didn't have a real point there.

SenztvRtst
KErmit
Scooter
Bradley "Grover Forever" Porter

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 19:52:18 -0800
From: Sinjin@ecn.com
Subject: Re: NJC  Igor info wanted

GetSelena@aol.com wrote:
> 
>   THAT'S IT!!
>   Igor has picked on me since day one!  Right fellow and gal Everyday Angels?
> RIGHT??  Yes, everyone knows that it is true!
>   Some of you know that he has scared the shit out of me too.
>   Seems like as soon as I start to be comfortable again, he pulls another
> one!
>   But, I think I am finally on to him.  I think I am beyond scaring anymore.
>   Mostly I am CURIOUS!!   I want the scoop on him!  The lowdown!  The dirt!
> And I want it NOW!!
>    He is a list celeb, and I have not met him yet!  I've met most of the
> others!  I'm
> one of the few who has even met Sean Hooks.  Anyone who wants a description
> of him.. just email me.  Ill tell.
>     Everytime us edas get together, we get online and go on and on about
> eachother.
> What we look like, what we were wearing..  you know.. the important stuff!

The guy looks ancient!
It looks like he had a skin transplant...from a donkey!
He's a bit of a chubber, but I was impressed by all the food he packed away at Denny's!
I've heard of the Grand Slam breakfast, but he got something called the "Down by Three the 
Bottom of the Nineth Bases Loaded Two Outs Full Count in Game 7 of the World Series"!!
They had to bring in a whole pig just to prepare his meal!

>     But not with you westcoasters and Igor!!!   SINJIN!!!!   Sheesh!   GIVE!!
>   Is his nose really THAT big??

Well, lets just say that after the Rugburns concert I couldn't sit directly across from him 
at Denny's.  And when he turns his head to the right...DUCK!

>  And poor Kathy!  She must be a saint!

Not a saint, but she does have wings!

>      LARRY!!   We have had a few emails!   Okay.. so maybe I was trying to be
> friendly so you would fill me in on Igor.  :)     SO FILL ME IN!!!!
>    Tom Morales!  Just because I mistook you for another Tom..  you can at
> least
> tell me if he dresses funny.  Does he scare people?
>     I NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS!!
>     I insist!    Does he have a wild look in his eyes?  Does he run around
> sniffing
> people?

Hmmm, he didn't sniff me and I didn't see him sniffing anyone else.  But he did have a 
habbit of asking *everyone* what cologne they were wearing, and Kathy always gave him a 
scolding look whenever he did so.  Maybe she made him promise not to sniff anyone that 
night.  He asked me, Larry, even the waitress at Denny's what cologne we had on.  Now that 
you mention it though, I do think I remember him getting a good whiff of the waitress while 
she took his order...

>  Does he wear plaid and cowboy boots?

Oh, god the cowboy boots!
That wasn't even the bad part though!  He had this ENORMOUS cowboy hat on, it didn't even 
fit his head!  We convinced him to remove it QUICK though, because it was embarassing to 
even be around that!  I think the feathers were a BIT much!

>  Is he a weirdo??
>     Dont you all think that I, of all people, am entitled to know this?  YES.
>  taptaptaptap..  I'm waaaiiiiiting...
>    Selena

Wait no longer, your prayers have been answered!
	+Sinjin!

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