From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #818 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Wednesday, 27 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 818 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hmmm...borrow a tape player... Re[2]: NJC: My Celeb # My Jewel # NJC: HELP!! PKZIP!! Re: [NJC] hmmm...borrow a tape player... Re: NJC: WATCH OUT TORONTO...HERE I COME!!!!!! Re: NJC: Secret santa question, etc... Re: NJC:Poetry, my turn (fwd) Re: NJC: WATCH OUT TORONTO...HERE I COME!!!!!! help! NJC:Happy Thanksgiving Re: NJC:Happy Thanksgiving Re: NJC:Happy Thanksgiving NJC: Tara MacLean NJC: Internet Clean-up joke NJC: Not a drummer joke Houston info...sort of [none] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Raymond Wong Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:08:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: hmmm...borrow a tape player... > >Someone mentioned borrowing a tape player for a show-- I've been unable to > >find a tape player to record shows on. Does anyone know where I could find > >one??? Like to buy??? I'm getting ready to go to the HFSfest and would like > > > If you're on a budget, check Wal-Mart or K-mart or your local Whatever-Mart. > They sell walkman size tape recorders for $30-$40. I have a Panasonic Eek! Ummm, well, a friend and I have a saying about tapes: "at least it's something." :) Personally, I'm not willing to say the pro stuff costs too much and leave it at that. I'd submit there is always a reasonable price:performance ratio you can look for... This was sent to me by a friend. I don't know if he wants to be identified, so I'll assume he likes privacy. I'll also submit you can get some decent recording walkman type units (consumer grade) for under a hundred bucks. Personally, I like Aiwa for bang for the buck. I work for a Sony company, and would still get the Aiwa, even with my employee discount on Sony. Again, this is for consumer grade. I actually did manage to save up the money for a Sony TCD-D7 DAT, which I got for under $500, but the ESP (expires in 1998) pushed it back over. Now I just need a mic. (If you want no holds barred portable DAT, consensus seems to be the pro Tascam, but it's over a thousand, possibly close to 2) >Here is my suggestion for people wanting to get into taping... > >there are two choices, as far as i am concerned. professional analog >equipment, or consumer DAT equipment. the pro analog walkmen are just >SO much betterh than the cheaper ones, there is no comparison. but, >professional grade portable DAT recorders are beyond the price range >of most people (especially students) > >here are some possibilities: > >1. sony WM-D3 professional walkman > >analog, but very nice. comes with everything you need. a little clip on >mic (stereo) that is surprisingly good, a case, and a strap to strap the >thing on under your shirt. this unit takes 2 AA batteries, and i have >gotten about 3.5 hours of recording from a pair of milennium rechargables. >it has mic/line input (same jack with a switch which is basically a >-20dB attenuation switch), a peak level/battery meter. (switchable between >showing peak levels (it shows sum of both channels, which annoyed me) or >battery power, or off.) it is a really good sounding unit, and alot of >the dt boots out there originated on this unit. it can be had for $250 >at chain stores (i got mine at incredible universe) but i am sure you can >mail order it for less than $200. there is also a better version, the >sony D6, but i have never seen one. > >2. consumer grade portable DATs. > >there are WAY too many of these to list. if you are interested in this, >mail DAT-heads-request@virginia.edu, that will get you a DAT market update, >a mic FAQ, and some other good stuff. two of the most popular of these >DATS are the sony TCD-D3 and TCD-D7. there are people that love each one >equally. but, be forewarned: BUY AN EXTENDED WARRANTY!!! these units have >the tendency to crap out on you sometimes. i have a D7, which you can >mail order for about $500-$550. i have been happy with it, email me for >more info if you are interested. > >oh, one more thing: radio shack 27-1065. if you can find this mic, buy >all of them they have. it was discontinued, but youcan still find it for >like $10. it is a stereo mic, and is awesome for its price. i used it >with my camcorder, but i have heard of people using them with DATS for >good results. Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@netcom.com, negativl@best.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Wed, 27 Nov 96 17:05:41 EST Subject: Re[2]: NJC: My Celeb # So do I understand right that we're telling star stories here? Like this one: I am related to Max Bygraves by marriage...not that it's a very impressive one...but someone on my mother's side married him...how embarrassing. God I wish I had a better one to tell than that...I don't even know his music...except from that episode of the Goodies which will probably mean nothing to all the US EDA's anyway since I don't think the Goodies ever made it to AMerica....oh well. I really think it's time for me to go home - going to a Shakespeare play tonight. Corialanus (sp???). I haven't a clue what it's about...hope I understand it.... Helen ------------------------------ From: wrdavis@ite.net (Katherine Davis) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:23:48 -0800 Subject: My Jewel # Okay--Kevin Bacon nothing, I got a JEWEL number!!! Okay, my great (or is it great-great?) anyway, my great grandmother was mentioned in a movie called Meet me In St. Louis..(it was "let's go down and see Mrs. Middleton" or something...) which starred Judy Garland who was Dorothy in the movie "Wizard of Oz" who was later played by Jewel!! How's that? That makes my Jewel number.....3? Maybe I should've gotten this post more together.... Take Care all, Kerry ------------------------------ From: wrdavis@ite.net (Katherine Davis) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:47:21 -0800 Subject: NJC: HELP!! PKZIP!! I've had Pkzip on my computer for a long time and I download the Jewel lyric archive (thanks Adam!--I'll get that other article to you soon) today and I want it....how do I use this program? Someone help me out please!! Thanks-ahead-of-time, Kerry ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 04:26:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [NJC] hmmm...borrow a tape player... Patric Oesterheld wrote: >I've been unable to >find a tape player to record shows on. Does anyone know where I could find >one??? Like to buy??? Believe it or not, stereo stores sell them! :) > I'm getting ready to go to the HFSfest and would like >to maybe boot the entire show. Sheryl Crow, Emmett Swimming, Jewel, and four >others- I just can't find a tape player-anybody have model #'s >or possible places to find one? For cassettes, I like the quality of the Aiwa stereo recording walkmans. They have several models that record, that tend to get more expensive as the models get smaller. Sony, Radio Shack, and maybe Panasonic also have stereo recording models. I've found the Sonys distort easily. Whatever you do, try to get one with a little external stereo mic, so you can keep the walkman hidden and clip the mic onto yout clothing. If you try to hold a unit with external mics out where it will pick up good sound, you have a good chance of having it confiscated. You might want to look at MiniDisc recorders. Better than cassette, cheaper than DAT. Sony makes them, and prices have come down a lot. Same rules apply for the mic. A DAT walkman is out of most people's price range, but the quality is the best, and serious tape traders use DAT, not MiniDisc as a standard. Good luck! Dan - ------------------------------ DAN STARK danstark@mnsi.net Windsor, Ontario, Canada - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 04:28:35 -0500 Subject: Re: NJC: WATCH OUT TORONTO...HERE I COME!!!!!! Liz Clark warned: > In less than 8 hours, I will be boarding a charter bus with 224 >other girls from my school. We are headed for Toronto!!!! --do any of >you have suggestions on any good CDs that are availible to purchase in Canada >that aren't in the U.S.???? - ---> TARA MacLEAN - "Silence" <--- - ---> WEEPING TILE - eePee <--- Have fun. Say hi to Jewel for me. Dan - ------------------------------ DAN STARK danstark@mnsi.net Windsor, Ontario, Canada - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 04:46:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: NJC: Secret santa question, etc... Well! Since my secret santa has been very very wonderful to me, I figured I oughta tell everyone (and thank you for the impetus, Mia :-) MY secret santa sent me one of those cool round things that you twirl under the light and it looks really really cool. They say it's called a diffraction disc, but I just call it neat-o! See, I had one of these when I lived in San Diego. It used to sit in the kitchen of my apartment, right by the kitchen window. Everytime I would go in to cook dinner or to grab a snack, I'd give it a spin and stare at it until it ran out of juice. While it wasn't very helpful towards ANY productive study, itwas a geat joy. And lightened some dark dark days. Anyhow, being in the kitchen, it, of course, eventually got kinda slimy and stuck with foodstuffs. (My housekeeping wasn't too good, then. Or now, I suppose. :-P) And so when I moved, I had to throw it away. And now, to recieve a replacement! How perfectly wonderful. Thank you Thank you Thank you. Now I have to get off my butt and do something...hmmm.... n.p.: Adrian Borland and the Citizens - "Shadow of your Grace" n.r.: Scott Adams - Dogbert's Top Secret Guide to Management Enjoy! Tom "Before the cream sits out too long..." ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:00:34 +0200 (IST) Subject: Re: NJC:Poetry, my turn (fwd) Well, JJ thought everyone would like my responce, so here goes. Sorry for the byteage. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 10:06:14 +0200 (IST) From: Reggev Michael To: JACOBUS_JARED_G Subject: Re: NJC:Poetry, my turn On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, JACOBUS_JARED_G wrote: > Walking > ------- > I never needed anyone else to walk behind > I never needed anyone else to walk in front of > I never need anyone else to walk with > because I never needed anyone else to walk > > I don't walk to make friends > I don't walk to make enemies > I don't walk because others walk > and I don't walk aimlessly > > I walk to get where I want to go > anyone who wants to come is welcome > the lack of anyone who wants to come will neither keep me from my > destination nor even bother me > as I walk, I think of the poor souls walking, but with no place to walk to These days, I often feel like I'm walking in circles. Even though I walk on the road less traveled by, it seems so crowded, and although I walk alone, the human traffic surrounding me is at times an obstacle to great to pass. 42, Tuff ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:21:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: NJC: WATCH OUT TORONTO...HERE I COME!!!!!! On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Liz A Clark wrote: > excited!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, I must be getting ready...BTW--do any of you > have suggestions on any good CDs that are availible to purchase in Canada > that aren't in the U.S.???? Dan recommended Tara McLean (oddly I find she's playing a free noon concert here today, so I guess I know what I'm doing for lunch...) and Weeping Tile. And Andrew recommended Spirit of the West, the Hip and Blue Rodeo, oh and Damnhait Doyle. I'd second those, but you should be able to get the Hip in the US. And if you like Spirit of the West and celtic music in general, try and find some Uiscea Beatha or Rawlin's Cross. I'd recommend three compilation album that showcase a lot of Canadian indie talent: Trim Crusts If Desired is the Cinnamon Toast comp CD, it features such standards of the east coast lo-fi scene as jale, Plumtree (my personal favs), and Eric's Trip. More of Our Stupid Noise is Squirtgun Records comp album, its hard to miss in the glowing lime-green case (I taste lime kool-aid(tm) when ever I see it...). Its another lo-fi classic with a lot of my favourite "local" bands like: Scratching Post (at the Rivoli on Saturday, I think), Radioblaster, and Hayden! Oh yeah, pick up some Hayden, he's mainly acoustic, and in some ways, sorta like Jewel, well, if she was male and grew up in a Ontario suburb, sorta. Bubblegun records also has a comp album, but I seem to have forgotten the name, it has Scratching Post and Radioblaster and a few more London (Ontario) -oriented bands, its cool, but not as cool as the first two. If you like ska music (and Canada is the home of ska... ...I'm kidding!) look for The All Ska-Nadian Club I and II which features lots of mostly indie Canadian Ska bands, if you pick up II, check out a track by Flashlight from, of all places Guelph (here). Yay! Have fun in TO, James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: "Derrick Chhay" Date: 27 Nov 1996 06:47:26 -0000 Subject: help! hey everyone, i'm a "newbie" and i really need some bootlegs if anyone has any to give. i'm as much a jewel fan as you guys and i really need some because...well...i don't have any! please help!!! Derrick"Cricket"Chhay "PeaceLoveLife"-FB - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:41:04 -0800 Subject: NJC:Happy Thanksgiving I just want to say thanks to all the friends I have made on the list. Also a special thanks to all the people that don't like me. Your differing opinions make the list more interesting. A few names should be mentioned but if I do, someone will surely be offended for being left out. On these pages, I have written about many things. Recently it was the septic man. A good while back, I was the tomato man. Do any of you remember when I pretended to be Kathy and described a naked Igor rolling around in bed covered with printed copies of email from the list. Occasionally I have my spies report on EDA sightings and news. That reminds me, has anyone seen Selena lately. Sean Hooks and Dennis Harris are still missing. I'm ready for Selena if she shows up on the west coast. It's Thanksgiving and where is Dennis when we really need a turkey. Turkey! Perfect story to make your holiday more meaningful. TURKEYS HAVE LITTLE REASON TO GIVE THANKS Steve Edwards Del Mar, CA As the Thanksgiving holiday nears, images of turkeys appear everywhere. I wonder how much most people actually know about the bird they consume for the traditional holiday meal. The average 15-20 pound turkey is about 4 months old and is just one of some 40 million that will be cooked in the United States for Thanksgiving Day dinners. Conceived by artificial insemination, the turkey is in trouble from the outset. Today's intensive confinement "factory farms" offer no more than 3 feet of living space per bird. To enhance agribusiness profits, the turkeys are bred and genetically engineered to have unnaturally large breasts and to grow unnaturally large. Their bodies often cannot support their own weight, and they suffer from crippling leg and joint disorders. These unsavory conditions result in unhealthy birds, and so they receive the best that modern medicine has to offer - antibiotics. The massive use of antibiotics in modern poultry production is believed to be partly responsible for the proliferation of drug-resistant bacteria that can infect human beings. When the turkeys reach market weight they are crammed into crates for their first and last ride - to the slaughterhouse. Fully conscious birds are hung upside down by their feet on metal shackes, carried on a conveyer belt, whose first stop of interest is a circular saw. Then it is off to cold storage, and the rest is a holiday memory. -North County Times, Escondido, CA 11/26/96 LATE BREAKING NEWS! Dennis Harris has been forced into working at at turkey farm, artificially inseminating the birds. He is still trying to figure out a tom from a hen. Selena, let Dennis go. I wonder what she has Sean doing? Igor ------------------------------ From: Gregory Willms Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:32:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: NJC:Happy Thanksgiving hi everyone, lets all take a moment to reflect and think about what we're really celebrating here. when the "pilgrims" first reached america, it was an unrefined mass of land, sparsely populated by native indians of various tribes. did columbus ever think that the "new land" would have anyone already occupying it? nope. why not? why couldnt there be people here? i guess he didnt realize that europe wasnt the only place that was inhabited in the entire world. but thats not the point. shortly after their arrival, the pilgrims stumbled upon the indians. i imagine things were fairly smooth at first, neither group wanting to frighten or anger the other in any way. but after the pilgrims discovered the vulnerablility of these people, they figured, "hey, these people are defenseless against us. they fight with rocks and sticks! lets take all this land for ourselves." so on they went... cleverly however, offering "trades" and "gifts" of virtually worthless items in exchange for land and food and special "indian novelties." as time went on, more and more settlers made their pilgrimage over to the "new land", and with this growth of people, there obviously needed to be a growth of space for them to live in. westward. slowly but surely, the "inferior" indians were pushed off their land into the terrirtory of other indians, forcing them to fight, and eventually they just resorted to slaughtering them. in school, we're shown pictures of the pilgrims and indians communing peacefully, getting along with no troubles. we cant have our children growing up thinking that our ancestors wiped out nearly the entire native indian population over a large plot of empty land. does the holocaust of WWII come to mind? which was worse? the nazis believed that they were the superior race and that others were lesser people, so they tried to kill them all. how different is that from the pilgrims killing the indians? of course, the details are greatly different, but the concept is the same. indians now arent even allowed to practice their own beliefs. if they want to live according to thier ways and beliefs, theyre confined to allocated "reserves" and are reduced to running casinos to earn enough money to be able to survive. i feel lucky that my family didnt come to the u.s. until the early 30's. happy thanksgiving. - -greg - ---------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/broadway/2606 | - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I was walking through the country and passing through lovely scenery when I came upon some rotting remains: and though the carcass was wormy... well after all, it's all part of nature's art of cleaning. -- Brad Roberts - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Let me have music dying, and I seek no more delight." -- John Keats - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:14:28 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: NJC:Happy Thanksgiving On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Gregory Willms wrote: > indians now arent even allowed to practice their own beliefs. if they > want to live according to thier ways and beliefs, theyre confined to > allocated "reserves" and are reduced to running casinos to earn enough > money to be able to survive. > i feel lucky that my family didnt come to the u.s. until the early 30's. > happy thanksgiving. I think we must celebrate our good fortune in the present, recognizing the problems the past brings to us, and resolve to make it better in the future, not with blame or self-recrimination but with an attitude that we can make a possitive difference. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:31:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC: Tara MacLean Hey Gang, Thanks to the recommendation of our very own Dan Stark and some gentle prodding from Steve Ito, I went and checked out Tara MacLean when I heard she was giving a free noon concert here at the UofG. She was great! And she's very nice too. She did a lot of stuff of her Nettwork CD (*): That's Me * Let Her Feel the Rain * If You Could * For You * Evidence * (which will be her first single - to be release in Jan/Feb) Water Holy Tears * Suddenly * a song about her ex-bf and meeting his new gf Jerico Silence * (wow she's great acappela!!) In some ways she's a bit like Jewel, she's very shy though and I don't think she's quite used to the being-onstage part of singing. She doesn't quite seem to have the vocal range of Jewel and certainly her onstage banter doesn't quite compare but, wow can she sing! I was lucky enough to pick up the cd for $12 too and noticed Veda Hille does pianos on one song. Mondo cool. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:53:54 -0700 (MST) Subject: NJC: Internet Clean-up joke In case any of you have gotten an email titled something like "Annual Internet Cleanup", it's a joke. A pretty funny one, too, but ignore it. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 12:06:58 -0700 (MST) Subject: NJC: Not a drummer joke So this guy gets stranded on an island and is taken in by a native until sombody can rescue him. Every things great except for the constant drumming and it's beginning to get to him. He asks,"When will the drums stop?" And is told, "Drums no stop. Bad thing happen when drums stop." Well he let it go but after a while he was going nuts. "These drums are driving me crazy. Can't you stop them?" "No", he was told again,"bad thing happen when drums stop." "What do mean 'bad thing happen'?, he asks, "What bad thing?" "Bass solo", says the native. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 15:29:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: Houston info...sort of I called the radio station here in Houston (KHMX) and asked the guy if he had heard anything about where the concert will be held at. He sounded a little surpirsed that I knew anything at all about a Jewel concert in Houston, but then he just said to listen to the radio next week. So I'm assuming it's going to be some sort of "surprise" type of thing. But it IS something definite. Just don't know where exactly it'll be yet. It's less than 2 weeks away though so I hope they release some more info soon (about tickets, etc.) Hope this info helps everyone out from this area who was wondering what was going on with this concert. Here's an idea, why don't everyone that's on this list who plans on attending this show get together somehow, maybe send an e-mail to the list, so we could all meet there. That would be pretty cool. We have nearly 2 weeks still to organize this and I doubt there's more than 10 of us list members from the Houston area. So it shouldn't be too difficult. Derrick ------------------------------ From: Antichrist Superstar Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 17:47:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: [none] I ate poop today. On a bet. It actually tastes pretty good. - --Xkin "There's no time to discriminate, hate every motherfucker that's in your way." - --Marilyn Manson "Before you point your finger you should know that I'm the man." - --Tool ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #818 ***************************