From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #798 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Wednesday, 20 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 798 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: SCJ: Re: VH-1 Re: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples NJC: Brush with the stars. Magazine contributions wanted Re: Swedish Song NJC: bubbling with annoyance Re: jewel-digest V1 #795 Re: NJC: Woody lines Ani DiFranco Re: NJC, Question Re: NJC: Nipple Discussion Re: NJC: Re: Vocab,...,and ...? Re: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples SJC - I just got my JS tapes VERYVERY NJC: Re: NJC: Nipple Discussion JS Thanksgiving Thing Done Ani on Conan tonight Re: Jewel Rare CD for TRADE ONLY *** READ THIS *** Re: Jewelstock anniversary & EDA Yearbook page Re: NJCRe: Educate don't condemn Re: NJC, Question Re: Njc: FUNNY netscape thing, the list and anime ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thirza Pearl Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:10:04 +0100 Subject: Re: SCJ: Re: VH-1 Actually since Celines video is in the top ten MTV has also been playing it. But VH1 is starting to play videos until your sick to death of them, and then they play it again just to make sure that you have no pulse! Oh, No... As I am typing this Celine's video is Playing! Ahhhhh....Its an invasion! ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:10:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Greg Dunn wrote: > > Don't tell anybody, but Toni's going to have her uvula pierced next. > > What's an uvula? Is it anything like a ferret? I'm not sure but I think I > saw one once. It looked really ferocius. The uvula is the thingy that hangs down at the back of your throat. It is long and thin though and might _feel_ like its covered in fur after a night of hard drinking. Uvula piercing is much more difficult than a normal pierce, and should be done only by both and experienced piercer and piercee. John Cobb was promoting this for a while, I think he works out of the Gauntlet in NYC (Fifth Ave.), but I'm pretty sure he neither recommends or does them any longer. YMMV. James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Karl M Fields Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:17:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC: Brush with the stars. On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 W1GGY2@aol.com wrote: > My mom used to go to a club in the City to see the Desi Arnaz band. (I'm not > sure if that's cool or not!) OK - here's another one. My dad used to be > really good friends with Mel Stuart who directed Willy Wonka and the > Chocolate Factory. Oh, and my mom went to some concert in Woodstock to see > some girl and her guitar! My uncle had a "Battle of the Bands" with Billy Joel on Long Island when they were kids. Needless to say Billy Joel won and went on to become an internationally reknown recording artist, while no one has of heard of Robert "Bob" Wamnes of Solid Gold. I am sure that this puts me within the 5 steps to Kevin Bacon. KMF ------------------------------ From: JenniferY@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:38:02 -0500 Subject: Magazine contributions wanted I'm starting my own magazine and since Derrick posted that great poem, I was wondering if anyone out there would like to contribute something as well. It's not a magazine solely about Jewel but I'd certainly like to run an article about her, from someone who has seen her perform or wants to briefly review her album. check out http://members.aol.com/JenniferY and let me know what you think! I'd like to get submissions via email and no longer than a page long typed...they can be shorter as well. I hope to review the Z-100 show if I go to that... ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 15:48:14 +0200 (IST) Subject: Re: Swedish Song On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, the Crazy Cleophile wrote: > Question. Is Swedish Song on JS tapes? I haven't heard it. > > Yours Jewelly, > Chris > Yes, it is. Cassette #2, side B, right around the middle. That's the first third of the second night. 42, Tuff - the unbelievable happy ILi EDA ------------------------------ From: TJtalken@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:53:16 -0500 Subject: NJC: bubbling with annoyance alright...i'm not sure of a tactful way to put this...so i'll be vague. some of you are posting more these past few digest (or weeks) than i have all year...i'll even add capello to that- more than capello and i all year. so THINK does anyone care what your saying, besides your boyfriend/girlfriend??? sometimes it's just important to remember that this list has a lot of people on it- despite that they don't post much...i'm not asking you to stop posting, or intending to start a war...but all the "veterans" have a point about writting something- leaving and coming back to it...that's saved me from sending mindless dribble several times. this is not a jc or njc issue...so don't make it in to that again...i've read most of the "women" topic's and a few "nipple" because some of them seem really intellectual and i'm learning something...but just a consideration of all the people you affect with what your saying would be nice. i'm done, flame me in private if you so choose... going into lurker status: duff ------------------------------ From: Laura Capello Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:13:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #795 duff said... >okay..i got curious on to what i could find at the place i get poster (no >capello i have no idea what the name of it is) and i found two Jewel posters. >they are both the cover of the c.d. only enlarged...so i know, not very >exciting..but if someone wants them i'll go back to get um..heck (we have >youngens on the list now) if i know how much they were... >duff first of all... why in the hel... heck were you in westport without me? did you think i wouldnt catch that? huh? explain missy.... second of all, they sell jewel posters? third of all, your sounding a bit too much like jenny... and fourth of all... urmph. anyone respond to you about going to st.louis? cuz no one's responded to me :( an excelent adventure all alone. capello ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:06:09 +0200 (IST) Subject: Re: NJC: Woody lines On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Reggev Michael wrote: > > > > And the Great Woody Allen line... > > > > > > Those who can't teach, teach gym! > > > Christopher G. Lewis > > > I thought the great Woody Allen line was: "I wouldn't want to be a member > > of a club that would accept someone like me as a member", or something > > along those lines. > > And I thought it was: "I'm not afraid to die, I just don't want to be > there when it happens." > > /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou > "'That's the way I want to go.' 'In a party, with all your friends around you?' 'No, late!'" - - Reaper Man / Terry Pratchett 42, Tuff ------------------------------ From: "Gerald J. Cho" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 09:18:40 -0600 (CST) Subject: Ani DiFranco Ani will be the musical guest tonight (11/20) on Conan O'Brien. Set your VCR! :) Gerald ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:10:57 +0200 (IST) Subject: Re: NJC, Question > To tell you the truth, I can't remember to save my life, and I sold my > biology back to buy groceries, so I guess the entire list will be left > hanging until so brainiac actually pulls out their biology book, blows > the dust off of it, and looks it the heck up. But I do know that a > certain part of the female anatomy (I won't say what, you know, it's a > family list) is DIRECTLY related to the male sex organ, so that's what I > was going off of. > > SenztvRtst > Bradley "I wanna be Ben Nye, The Science Guy" Porter > Kermit > Scooter > Any brainiacs around? No, I sold my bio books, so don't look at me like that. If it were a math question, it would be a different matter, but this? No way. 42, Tuff ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:18:51 +0200 (IST) Subject: Re: NJC: Nipple Discussion On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Slunk69090@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure you've got it wrong. We all start as as females. That's > > also the reason there are slightly more women then men. > > 42, > > Tuff > > I thought the reason there's more women than men was so that the men > wouldn't fight over them, considering the usual male aggressiveness. Of > course it doesn't work, but still... > > /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou > Yes, I suppose that's why evolution has kept it that way - it's better for society, but that still doesn't explain the biological mechanism behind the matter. BTW, with other life forms, the balance is different (there are far more female horses then male ones, for example). 42, Tuff ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:21:30 +0200 (IST) Subject: Re: NJC: Re: Vocab,...,and ...? Let's see how NJC would be pronounced in hebrew... Oh, wait, we don't use that alphabet. There is no J, and even if I try and break it into words, translate it into hebrew, and then reform it, it would still sound horrible (LeTeJ). What a relief I don't have to do that! 42, Tuff On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 GraywolfLA@aol.com wrote: > > > FYI: "nyuk" is the Swedish pronunciation for NJC > > Oh yeah? Well, your mother's so fat...no wait...you're right. > > But we of the upper class prefer to pronounce it "ennyeeceeeh?" > > Or something. > > /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou > ------------------------------ From: toni@indy.net (Toni Dunn) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 10:32:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples For those of you who didn't get this, I'm not piercing my uvula, Greg was just being a sarcastic asshole-Toni "Now she's sitting in the bedroom and she's crying,"-Jewel "I thought that we just drove across the parking lot!" ------------------------------ From: Reggev Michael Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 17:45:25 +0200 (IST) Subject: SJC - I just got my JS tapes I would like to take this chance to thank Mike from the bottom of my heart, and to tell everyone what a great person he is. If it weren't for this magnificent person, I would not be here today, listening to my brand new JS cassettes (I would be here w/o them). I am now as high as a person can get without using drugs. GOD BLESS YOU MIKE CONNELL!!! I leave now, but this warning shall remain: Anyone messes with my main man Mike, they'll have to answer to him! 42, Tuff - the uncontrolably joyous ILi EDA ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:40:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: VERYVERY NJC: Re: NJC: Nipple Discussion On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Reggev Michael wrote: > On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 1996 Slunk69090@aol.com wrote: > > > I'm pretty sure you've got it wrong. We all start as as females. That's > > > also the reason there are slightly more women then men. > > I thought the reason there's more women than men was so that the men > > wouldn't fight over them, considering the usual male aggressiveness. Of > > course it doesn't work, but still... > Yes, I suppose that's why evolution has kept it that way - it's better for > society, but that still doesn't explain the biological mechanism behind > the matter. BTW, with other life forms, the balance is different (there > are far more female horses then male ones, for example). This is a little more and a little less complex than it seems. First of all its not that we all start as females. Much of this is decided by hormone levels and we do all start out technically female, but errors in that regard are very small. The way males and females are made starts off with the chromosomes of the parents, males (dads) are XY and females (moms) are XX (in most cases for each anyway). So, your dad is responsible for which sex you are (its not a conscious decision so don't go blaming him if you're not happy ;-) ) Your mom will donate one of the X's (some will be one kind, some will be the other kind), but your dad will donate either an X or a Y. In all it looks like this: - -------------------------- Dad\Mom| X | X | - -------------------------- X | XX | XX | or 50% Males (XY) and 50% (Females) - -------------------------- Y | XY | XY | - -------------------------- Now, the genetic basis for sex determination tells us that there should be a 50% male/female split in the population, but its actually closer to 49/51. That we start out as females isn't really enough to account for a 2% split. However, we have known for quite a while that that additional X chromosome helps females cope with genetic "load" better, since they have an "extra" copy of the information on that chromosome. So lets say there is a gene that produces a protein and it on the X chromosome, well if there is something wrong with that gene, if its a male, they'll have no other copy. If its a female they will have another X chromosome with that information, so they might produce a reduced level of that protein, but at least its there. And if its a necessary protein, then they will live where a male would not. There's also a societal effect as well. Males of certain ages are more likely to die from certain diseases to which they are predisposed and in many societies men have more dangerous jobs than women. So at certain age groups the population is skewed slightly to having more females than males. James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:55:51 -0500 Subject: JS Thanksgiving Thing Done Hi all, Thanks to everyone who sent their "thank you" messages to be included in the "Jewelstock Thanksgiving" printout that was sent out this morning to Lenedra & Jewel. I printed out all the messages & bound them in a binder so it can be read like a book. (& yes, I re-formatted all messages so they don't have "long line-short line email looks to them. ) I overnighted it to them, so they'll get it tommorrow. It came out far better than I could have imagined. I was very impressed by how much the whole JS experience (& tapes) has effected so many. Anyway, thanks to everyone who took the time to contribute. It's really somethin'! Best wishes! Alan & AmyJo (The BBs) ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:05:28 -0500 Subject: Ani on Conan tonight I haven't read my mail yet today so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but for anyone interested, I'm told Ani Difranco is the musical guest on Conan O'Brien tonight (Wed). ttyl, Dan - ------------------------------ DAN STARK danstark@mnsi.net Windsor, Ontario, Canada - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: JACOBUS_JARED_G Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:23:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Jewel Rare CD for TRADE ONLY *** READ THIS *** Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:23:46 +0200 (IST) From: JACOBUS_JARED_G Subject: Re: Jewel Rare CD for TRADE ONLY *** READ THIS *** To: "SMTP%ehaglund@vt.edu"@eagle.liunet.edu cc: jewel@smoe.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On -1 xxx -1 SMTP%ehaglund@vt.edu@eagle.liunet.edu wrote: > If you are a Jewel fan than you can understand the reasons behind > not copying these tapes and you shouldn't be complaining. > " Most of you out > >there are great but some of you have this self-righteous attitude like you > >own Jewel" > As for owning Jewel I think this statement is a little > screwed up. By not copying these tapes we are not acting as if we own Jewel > but instead we are watching out for Jewel. In this society many are out to > make a quick buck without any consideration for who gets shafted by their > moves, which is why tapes like these are rare and should be treated with > utmost respect. Not to mention that this was a gift from Jewel for EDA's > not just any old fan who comes along. So I will stress what Mike has > already said, "DO NOT COPY THESE TAPES FOR ANYONE" That's all folks. > -Eric"not a bad defense for EDA's from a Newbie"Haglund > > > > >> Angels, do not do bussiness with this man. I have this CD. I will make > >> youa first generation copy absolutely free if you like. I will even > >> spend my own time and money finding another original for you if you > >> insist however Jewelstock was gift from Jewel, Lenedra and Alan. We are > >> not intend to be "shittin' copies"-rugburns- for anybody who asks. > >> Please ignore his message and write me privately for a free first > >> generation copy of this CD or help in finding an original. > >> > >> SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl > > > >What an absolute joke! I am a jewel fan. I have been on the list before. > >What must I do in order to become "worthy" of owning a copy of Jewelstock? > >I'm simply offering something in return for anyone who would copy it for > >me instead of just begging for it like most people do. . Get a life... you > make me sick and would probably make her > >sick as well with your rotten attitude. I would have gone to Jewelstock > >if I hadn't had a prior obligation (a wedding). I don't mean to sound > >pissy but this pissed me off... I was just trying to help somebody out by > >making something rare available in return for a favor. > > > >Surround yourself in beauty man. > > > >adkins@utkux.utk.edu > > > Thank you, I feel better now. SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:07:16 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Jewelstock anniversary & EDA Yearbook page On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 Sinjin@ecn.com wrote: > Anyway, I just checked out the Gerrit's EDA Yearbook page and noticed > that many of us don't have pictures on there. Therefore I've taken it Well, mine's not really a picture of me but a representation of my life. Is that cool? Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:20:02 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: NJCRe: Educate don't condemn On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Reggev Michael wrote: > I thought the great Woody Allen line was: "I wouldn't want to be a member > of a club that would accept someone like me as a member", or something > along those lines. > 42, > Tuff It was, but I also think Groucho Marx and W. C. Fields preceeded him on this one. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 11:24:52 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: NJC, Question On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Dean wrote: > No, no, no! With Rainbow Prints everyone would think (and discuss for > weeks) that the architect was a homosexual. :) I bought a used car from a guy who IS gay and it had a a little rainbow sitcker one the rear bumper. I thought just passingly about removing it, but decided what the hell, let people think what they want. Sometimes it's more fun that way. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Andrew Vernon Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:44:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Njc: FUNNY netscape thing, the list and anime Thirza, > I Have a mac and netscape but have never seen the Fish cam, Where am i > supposed to Type CTRL-ALT-F-I-N? For you Mac guys, hold down the Control and Option keys while typing F-I-N. If that doesn't work, try this URL: http://fishcam.netscape.com/fishcam And no, I don't have a solution for you Linux guys running the X Window version yet :-) - -- Andrew "I think I'm starting to catch on to this game" Vernon avernon@scott.net ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #798 ***************************