From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #787 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 18 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 787 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: yellowprints (was a NJC question) Re: hello..?.. Re: Neo-folkie Re: prints color Re: Neo-folkie JC: Radio play News List Re: Eleanor McEvoy chelsea's responce Women bhartford3rd, nipple re: can someone help? sorry Quote Re: prints color: Purple! Re: Swedish Song (Wolph and dolfin) :) 95.5 PLJ Re: Vocabulary Lesson (was Re: Educate don't condemn) Re: Quote thanks! Re: JEWEL-All the new December dates & venues NJC, next to the phone Jewel vs. Liz Phair Re: Women Re: NJC, Question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Judd Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:37:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: yellowprints (was a NJC question) I'm sorry, i'm using an unfamiliar mail reader and this was not intended for the list. James ________________________________________________________________________ Computer Science/Engineering Eng. Network Services Web Guy http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Auburn University Auburn, Alabama On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, James Judd wrote: > I enjoyed his mail much more than i have any of yours. At least he > had something to say. You might like to consider being a little more > considerate of all the people your messages go out to. > > This is your first post that i thought was in poor taste- making fun > of someone else. So that's why i felt i should respond. > > James > ________________________________________________________________________ > Computer Science/Engineering Eng. Network Services Web Guy > http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Auburn University Auburn, Alabama > > On Sun, 17 Nov 1996, Thirza Pearl wrote: > > > gregory ianitto wrote:> > > > "yellow prints" actually are what your blueprints actually are before being > > > exposed to ultraviolet rays...a "blue"print is printed on ammonia paper > > > (well, doesnt have to be, but...) which is yellow, the image of the > > > drawing is transferred onto the print paper, and the lines/points/etc become > > > "bluelines" when ultraviolet light exposes the rest of the paper, therefore > > > the yellow disappears, the transferred image turning "blue." there you > > > have it folks.....trust me, i have had enough ammonia papercuts (ouch) to > > > remmeber the process quite well.......and if the AUtocoad guy is still > > > around, i am sure he can add to this..... > > > > > > > > > Oh that is very interesting (Yaaaaaaaawnnnn) Just keep typing while I > > sleep. > > > ------------------------------ From: telliamed@juno.com (Pat Brown) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:08:53 EST Subject: Re: hello..?.. On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 22:14:58 +0100 Thirza Pearl writes: > >Umm.. I really dont want to start another thread war (havent I started >enough already?) but I really dont like this person, sorry. > Tsk, tsk... that's really no way to greet a new member of the list. And I know all the ways not to greet a new member of the list. ;-) (Oh, but we all love you CJ, honest we do!) >What was the point of saying "nyeh" Are you really trying to be >annoying? or is that just the way you were born? > Okay, I may as well clear this up since I started it. That "nyeh" was for me. (And such a warm, touching, heartfelt "nyeh" it was, too.) When I introduced her to EDAs I gave her some friendly ribbing because of a comment she made on Angry Psychos concerning web browsers. Just some friendly, good-natured hostility. (some judicious use of smilies would be in order, though... here, just like this :-) :-) ;-) :-b :-D ) Okay... everything cleared up? (oh, other than your cold, Alex... here, have a cough drop) There... now then, GROUP HUG!!! Lehmann sed... >and i worship the 3 goddesses of the sun temple: Tori, Poe, and Jewel. hmm... I thought it was Tori, Jewel, and *Sarah*. Ohwell. Three cheers for the Sun God.... RA! RA! RA! - ----- telliamed@juno.com ### All opinions expressed are yours. You have only yourself to blame. ### ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 15:52:43 EST Subject: Re: Neo-folkie On Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:01:10 -0700 (MST) Chopped Liver said: >Folk songs are traditional songs usually done in ballad form like >Greensleeves, Where Have all the Flowers Gone, etc. Pete Seager, Woody >Guthrie, Burl Ives, and Joad Baez fit this catagory. As far as I can > Joad Baez? Any relation to Joan? Hah! Sorry... couldn't let that one slip by what with all the bitching and moaning going on in the list these days. Could I? :) Dean Harris P.S. Before anyone flames me for being a cold hearted bastard and not considering the effects it might have on CL if I made fun of his typo... I thought about it long and hard. I thought back to the many many posts of CL's I have read, those I had sent to him and his reactions to them. His reactions to other's posts, etc. I came to the conclusion that he, unlike several people I've noticed of late, can take a good ribbing aimed directly at him and yet... he doesn't fall over screaming in agony because I was somewhat insensitive to his wandering typing finger. P.P.S. It's all in good fun. Don't take yourselves to seriously. ------------------------------ From: Christopher Hoeh Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:06:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: prints color > > Just a minor note. Although I found your idea very creative, green is > still considered a cold color. Think of it this way... If you painted your > room white with a little green accent, it would still be a very cool color. > I do like green better because it reminds me of trees. Anyway, a warm color > would be yellow, orange, red.. violet is so so because it is a mixture of a > cool color and warm one. Just my 2 cents... I do like green more than grey! > > Luis True, but this is a pretty bright green (think neon sign). Yellow and orange were just too hard to read. Red would've worked, but it was too harsh I thought... blue & grey...too sad yellow & orange...too quiet red...too angry bright green... nice and happy :) chris =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chris Hoeh Office of Information Technology ch115@prism.gatech.edu Department of Operations/Engineering Atlanta, Georgia Georgia Institute of Technology =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:19:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Neo-folkie On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Dean wrote: > Joad Baez? Any relation to Joan? Hah! Sorry... couldn't let that one > slip by what with all the bitching and moaning going on in the list > these days. Could I? :) > > > Dean Harris > > P.S. Before anyone flames me for being a cold hearted bastard and not > considering the effects it might have on CL if I made fun of his typo... > I came to the conclusion that he... can take a good ribbing aimed > directly at him and yet... he doesn't fall over screaming in agony Wuh, wuh.... waaaaaaaaaa! oowaaaaaaaaaa! Thump! Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict, it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 14:33:00 -0700 (MST) Subject: JC: Radio play On the student station here at the U of Montana (home of the 10-0 Grizzly football team) they've been playing WWSYS, YWMFM, Little Sister, Foolish Games, POY, Adrian and others from the cd BY REQUEST!. Now, that' cool. Also, the local 'light rock' has been playing the new demo version of YWMFM. The student station, BTW, is not one of those micro-watt deals. I live 15 miles away and get it quite clearly. This is considerable in the middle of the Rockies. Many people in Missoula have switched to this station because they are the only one to play alternative, rap, and non-top 40 stuff. The established classic rock/top 40 station has even changed their playlist because of them. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 15:33:54 -0600 Subject: News List Sorry, but i've been having technical difficulties (car and email) for the past few days, so i didn't get to read email when my shift started this weekend. So if you'd like anything approved for news that didn't get through for whatever reason send it to jewel-news@smoe.org. This is my week, and it lasts through saturday, and unless something else weird happens, i'll be approving it in a timely manner. James ________________________________________________________________________ Computer Science/Engineering Eng. Network Services Web Guy http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Auburn University Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ From: Eric Haglund Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:36:26 +0500 Subject: Re: Eleanor McEvoy For those of you EDAs who liked Eleanor McEvoy (she performed before Jewel-atleast in NH), I've got some information on her.Some are unconfirmed so check local radio/press/venue for details. Some tentative tour dates are: Nov. 21 - Boston (South Station) / WBOS - free noon appearance I know I keep posting about this but I'm trying to figure out if it is even going to be worth fighting through Boston to try to get to see her or if she will be done before I get there. Does anyone have information on this?-Eric ------------------------------ From: Cutiestpie@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:08:44 -0500 Subject: chelsea's responce In a message dated 96-11-18 01:06:57 EST, you write: << bhartford3rd@juno.co >> I just wanted to let you know that I really liked you argument and "GO YOU"!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Cutiestpie@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:08:44 -0500 Subject: Women In a message dated 96-11-18 01:06:57 EST, you write: << bhartford3rd@juno.co >> I see women as beautiful creatures that are filled with love, caring, honesty, and trust. Then they grow up and get so hurt by men and their lies and it screws us all up. Then you say we are bitches. Whatever! Cutiestpie. ------------------------------ From: Cutiestpie@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:14:04 -0500 Subject: bhartford3rd, nipple Why do men have nipples? What the hell kind of question is that. A good one..... I think it is so that a women can have something to play with. what do you think? Bye the way I loved your joke. Do you have anymore. Cutiestpie ------------------------------ From: Alexandra Podbereski Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 17:22:00 -0500 Subject: re: can someone help? Toni Dunn wrote... > Okay, does anyone have the YWMFM video on tape? My friend Sharon is > friends with steve and desperate to see the video, and I keep seeing it but > my vcr is on the fritz so I can't tape it. If anyone could help me I'd be > very grateful-Toni I have the video, but I live in Canada...postage may be a bit steep... ------------------------------ From: "Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng beaver." Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:29:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: sorry Sorry, I've been occupied for too many days. Actually, it was more harmful to me than anyone else (as if anyone would care anyway), for it took me four hours to get through all of my backed up email. I missed the entire Sean Hooks/intelligence/whatever debate, but I'm not sure that I regret it. As Igor likes to point out, everyone has some admirable points about them, and if you admire these and forgive the others, you'll like that person. As for the intelligence/ignorance thing, I believe it doesn't matter how many or what books you've read, how you've been schooled, or anything like that. What really matters is what you've got out of the experience, or lack thereof. Success in life is becoming a better person. So, theoretically, someone who couldn't read but is very nice is better off than a well-read (ambiguous term as it is) person who is pretensious and mean. Whatever. I think a well-educated person is someone who has learned the good lessons from whatever they've done. Jewel seems to have done a stupendous job at this, and I hope everyone will take her example. play nice, tim "skoobidy oop, skoobidy oop, skoobidy watcha" --Dizzy Gillespie ------------------------------ From: ctoepel@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:26:26 EST Subject: Quote "i hid my soilded hands behind my back; somewhere along the line i must have gone off track with you; excuse me, think ive mistaken you for somebody else, somebody who gave a damn, somebody more like my self, and these foolish games are tearing me, tearing me, tearing me apart, and your thoughtless words are breaking my heart; theyre breaking my heart." - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -Chris Toepel :-) http://www.mit.edu/people/ctoepel/home.html "Oh, I'm sorry; Did I break your concentration?" -PF This message brought to you by: Toepel Software Kicking Microsoft's Ass Since 1996 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 00:35:35 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: prints color: Purple! As far as I know blue & green are supposed to be soothing colours, red is aggravating or arousing, orange is invigorating (yellow too?), and my favorite, purple is the colour that appeals most to contemplative, philosophical-natured people. Which explains, at least to me, why I like it. And (still as far as I know),black and white aren't colours at all. Sorry to bother everyone with this limited insight/explanation. - -name withheld by request ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:18:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Swedish Song (Wolph and dolfin) :) > Is it me, or is this not quite as pretty as the Swedish version? Maybe > we would have been better off without a translation. Up to now we all knew > that it was a love song about a Dolphin and a wolf. The rest was up to > our imaginations. Oh well! Thanks Alexander. I think it is just you Dean! :-) It is beautiful in its simplicity. AndI like the way she alternates characters speaking with each new line. I don;t think I;ve heard another song that did that, at least in a solo version of a song. Maybe this should be a duet? You up for it Alexander? Time for my Swedish lesson, Tom ------------------------------ From: StayMur@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 19:20:12 -0500 Subject: 95.5 PLJ My friend called me last night to tell me that they just played YWMFM on 95.5. The really cool thing about it is that before they played it they said that we're playin this one because of popular demand. Wow...I bet ya it was the angels who were demandin it. Great Job guys, they're listening to us. Oh yeah and on Z100 some girl called up, agian a friend called I didn't actually hear it, and the girl was yelling Jewel Rocks, Pieces of You. She's getting her radio responce which is really cool! Stacey ------------------------------ From: tom morales Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:56:20 +0000 Subject: Re: Vocabulary Lesson (was Re: Educate don't condemn) IMHO Ignorant means you choose to ignore what you have learned and make stupid mistakes and do stupid things because of it. Never learning or being uneducated may mean you have never had the opportunity to learn something be it at a higher education institution or in nature or on the streets. Dean wrote: > > On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 23:04:33 EST Jennifer Duggan said: > > >claim that). and, there is a difference between being ignorant and just > >simply never having learned something. different schools have different > > > > OK. This is very nit-picky, but it is a pet peeve of mine (yes, I have > pet peeves). Isn't the definition of ignorant basically uneducated? > Which would mean this sentence says there's a difference between two things > that mean the same. I think this person meant to say there's a > difference between being stupid and ignorant. > > Dean "weilding the red pen of vocabulary" Harris ------------------------------ From: Selena Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 22:12:45 -0800 Subject: Re: Quote Thctoepel@MIT.EDU wrote: > > "i hid my soilded hands > behind my back; > somewhere along the line > i must have gone off track with you; > excuse me, think ive mistaken you for > somebody else, > somebody who gave a damn, > somebody more like my self, > > and these foolish games > are tearing me, tearing me, tearing me apart, > and your thoughtless words > are breaking my heart; theyre breaking my heart." > Chris, Those lines have got to be my favorites. And I love the way Jewel sings them. The emotions on her face. My first show in Philadelphia had me way up front and since I only knew the songs off of POY, I was so glad that she sang Foolish Games. I've often felt akward and unsophisticated. And my job has my hands stained and rough. And I have often hid my hands behind my back. I find it so amazing how Jewel's lyrics continue to touch me. Selena ------------------------------ From: "Derrick Chhay" Date: 18 Nov 1996 22:01:06 -0000 Subject: thanks! hey people, thanks to those who are willing to type something out to me to put on my home page. it doesn't matter what it is. it can be a poem, short story, or even an editorial. thanks!!! Derrick"Cricket"Chhay - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Joe Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 18:28:29 -0800 Subject: Re: JEWEL-All the new December dates & venues Hi all, Does anyone know anyhting about the San Diego show? I just called ticketmaster and they haven't heard anything about it. Also, KFMB is an AM news/talk show station. It seems kinda odd that they would be doing a xmas show. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - -Joe ABershaw@aol.com wrote: > 96/12/12 KFMB Xmas Show,4th & B Street,San Diego,CA ------------------------------ From: S15876WL@umassd.edu Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:45:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC, next to the phone HAAAAAAA. For the last two nights I been sitting next to the phone waiting for the chance to call for the tickets to see Jewel in Bostonnnnnn, AHHHHH..... need morre cofffeee! ( Dam you WKISS!) I HATE this stupid process of winning tickets, why can't we just buy it. ANd for the next three weeks I'll be sitting next to the phone until I get the tickets. IF, BIG IF, I get in "let the recorder role!" EDAs, p[ease give me strength for the next three weeks. Screw Homework, Screw MA. degree! JEWELLLLL..... I need sleep :-< William By the way check out there home page, it listed all the artist performing: Http://www.KissFM.com - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Li Chemistry Dept. S15876wl@umassd.edu University Mass. at Dartmouth N. Dartmouth, Ma 02747 "I can't belief I missed JS! " - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Derrick Chhay" Date: 18 Nov 1996 22:18:20 -0000 Subject: Jewel vs. Liz Phair has anyone else heard how Jewel beat out Liz Phair to be named the most attractive singer/songwriter??? i think Jewel deserved to win. Liz isn't bad but she's no match for Jewel. if you wanna see for yourself, go to: http://parker.eecs.berkeley.edu/~gsu/music/best.html Derrick"Cricket"Chhay - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Richard A. Bond, Jr." Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:54:57 -0800 Subject: Re: Women > I see women as beautiful creatures that are filled with love, caring, > honesty, and trust. Then they grow up and get so hurt by men and their lies > and it screws us all up. Then you say we are bitches. Whatever! > > Cutiestpie. Wo wo wo! Hang on there a moment...can we all say "Two way street"? I'd had the sh@t end of that stick before. And I male, and she is female. Rick Bond ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 21:06:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: NJC, Question > > But the nipple information would be encoded in the DNA, wouldn't it? And > the DNA surely knows if it's a boy or a girl before it forms organs of > any kind. And, while we're (I'm) on the subject; has anybody ever met a > DNA? What do they look like? Don't answer spirals, because then I'd have to > dive into a toaster... > Actually (and apperently I DID learn something from biology) everyone starts out as a boy. Everyfetus develops male sex organs until the third? month (I think) and then a chemical is released (either estrogen or testosterone) that determines the sex of the fetus. I know you all were just DYING to know that... SenztvRtst Kermit Scooter Bradley "we also have tails until the third month" Porter ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #787 ***************************