From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #511 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Tuesday, 27 August 1996 Volume 01 : Number 511 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Mrs BB's last Jewelstock transcription #10 Re: grooming and stuuf that makes us "pretty" Re: addys Re: Politics Re: flowers and other things Jewel In Chicago???? Re: Jewel's *Perfection* Jewel on AOL Tonight A little background Re: A little background Re: Jewel's *Perfection* Jewel's Philosophy :) Re: NJC: I got a new car Re: grooming and stuuf that makes us "pretty" Re: addys Re: :) Re: Jewel In Chicago???? Re: NJC: I got a new car [Fwd: Re: flowers and other things] RE: Jewel In Chicago???? Very NJC: I'm dead Horatio! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:48:00 -0400 Subject: Mrs BB's last Jewelstock transcription #10 Hi, Here is the last one. Discuss! :-) AmyJo AS A CHILD I WALKED... by Jewel Kilcher 7/96 As a child I walked with noisy fingers Along the hemline of so many meadows of back home Green fabric stretched out, shy earth, shock of sky I'd sit on logs like pulpits Listen to the sermons of sparrows And find God in simplicity There among the dandelions and thorn Now I frequent hotel lobbies Like a chain smoker having a bad day A nasty habit that breeds itself Delivering each day to the needy next Each with the promise of glitter and glory But how my tiny heart aches to return Like a daisy rooted in rot and rubbish Asked to grow in strange rooms Fed neon and cold pizza I fear I may wither with forgetfulness So I pull these pages close about my ears Tiny leafy limbs pale with impression My pen a single flame to keep me warm Like a beacon holding memory Until I am able to go back to my lovely mountains Or until I am strong enough to bring the essence to the rest of these hungry people Who long to remember the simplicity which lies beyond the cities inbred streets And the Godliness that resides in us all ------------------------------ From: Jersey Devil Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: grooming and stuuf that makes us "pretty" I've got to agree with Sarah on this one. The sooner people begin to realise that the little "flaws" each of us have make us beautiful in our own way, the sooner we will all gain an understanding of each other. By the way, Jewel did a great set at MSG. I thought she was better than Neil. Jay ------------------------------ From: Jersey Devil Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: addys Ditto here On Mon, 26 Aug 1996, Laura Capello wrote: > could anyone tell me how to get to the jewelstock yearbook? > > capello > ------------------------------ From: Jersey Devil Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Politics Hey, hey, hey there. Just calm down a second on that whole political note, this isn't the Sex Pistols list for crying out loud. Granted, the government blows big time, but find a better one on this planet. There will always be buerocratic bullsh*t as long as there are two polar-opposite parties vying for election. Me, I'll end up using my vote on Ralph Nader. Its a third party that is actually talking about SOLUTIONS rather than more legislative hassles. Jay ------------------------------ From: Jersey Devil Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:02:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: flowers and other things Having seen Selena first hand at Jewelstock, I have to agree with Vic. (Although all that odor talk is a little too extreme for me). Regarding flowers, It may be just me, I believe that it's always a pretty good policy to give a girl/ young woman flowers. It may be old-fashioned or whatever but, as said before, it shows there is thought involved. A note or letter included, I feel, makes it all the more personal since it is like giving something of yourself. Enough soapboxing for me. Jay ------------------------------ From: Chris Lewis Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:11:43 -0500 Subject: Jewel In Chicago???? Did I see from Rachel/CornflakeGirl that our beloved Jewel is actually here in Chicago??? I kinda thought that Jewel was pretty much not into politics. So why the Rock-The-Vote thing??? And why come to Chicago during the DNC. (What a painful time to visit Chicago. Too many big-wigs counteract Chicago's normal personality.) Chris Christopher G. Lewis Taylor Management Systems, Inc. 2800 River Road, Suite 425 Des Plaines, IL 60018 CHRIS@TAYLORMGT.COM (847) 803-1500 - Pager (800) 746-8204 ------------------------------ From: Jersey Devil Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Jewel's *Perfection* True, she's not perfection, but she is one truly beautiful thing in this often ugly world (jaded outlook compliments of life in N.J.). As for being flamed, I think this is a pretty open minded group. Don't sweat it. Jay ------------------------------ From: BillYeh@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:17:20 -0400 Subject: Jewel on AOL Tonight To All EDA's, I've only been a lurker until now, but want to make a small contribution to this group, which has been, and continues to be, one of the nicest lists around. Jewel will be on-line tonight at AOL's Center Stage at 11:00 pm ET. Since I live in Nashville, that'll be 10:00 for me. I don't know how long she'll be on, but I'm going to try to get on early (although I play volleyball until 9:30, then it's a 1/2 hour drive back to my house). I've seen Jewel twice, both times here in Nashville. The first time was a couple of months ago, when she opened up for Edwin McCain. Few others in the crowd knew who she was, and when she came out, she got the usual catcalls, etc. from the ingorami in the crowd (what else can you expect in Nashville?). Anyway, I was somewhat glad I was in Nashville, because it meant I got to be about 10 feet away from her! MY friends in DC (that's where I used to live) say that they can't get anywhere near her because she's so popular up there (yes, that's where the infamous frisbee incident occured). Anyway, the second time I saw her was a couple of weeks ago, when she headlined. Whoever the opening act was (I can't remember his name), he sounded like Lou Reed on Valium, which is a truly frightening thought. However, she was pretty cool. I stood at the right hand edge of the stage, again within 12 feet of her. I got to see her at the side of the stage before she came on, just being herself, as opposed to being on stage. She was acting very friendly with Michel, that model guy who's puppy-dog following her around. Her show was better than I heard the first time, especially since she was able to play for an hour and a half instead of a half an hour. It was kind of cool to get the digests reporting on the show, and to be able to say to myself, "Hey, I was there!" Anyway, thanks for letting me prattle on. I guess I'll go back to lurking for a while, until I have something else worthwhile to say. ------------------------------ From: Jersey Devil Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: A little background I'm kinda new here, so let me introduce myself. My name is Jay Notte and I'm a student at Syracuse. I've lived in Belleville N.J. (5 min from Sports Complex) all my life. My first concert was Metallica/ GNR back in high school. First saw Jewel live at the Tradewinds in Sea Bright, and I've seen her at MSG and at Jewelstock. Favorite tune: "Sometimes it be that way". Tune I'd most like her to cover: "We Belong" by Pat Benatar. Look forward to chatting with you guys. Jay ------------------------------ From: "(:spyflower:)" Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A little background Looking at Jay's (Jersey Devil's?) message, I decided I'd write a little something about myself. ;) I'm not *really* new, I've been here since about..early July? and I've posted a bit on the list, and e-mailed some people.. but I haven't really been much of a contributer. :) I still haven't seen Jewel in concert! She came by here a while ago, and I really didn't even know who she was (I hadn't even gotten POY), but I wanted to go.. The place had an age limit tho, 18+ (according to Ticketmaster) and 21+ (according to the place). So, um, I didn't. And now I'm kicking myself. (ouch.) My first real concert.. a few months ago. :) Anyway, I live in South Florida and haven't been able to make it to any of the JS-type gatherings yet (aaaaaaaghh), and am hoping that a really good one gets together for Farmaid.. (fingers crossed) :) I would love e-mail from any other EDAs :) Sarah On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Jersey Devil wrote: > > I'm kinda new here, so let me introduce myself. My name is Jay > Notte and I'm a student at Syracuse. I've lived in Belleville N.J. (5 min > from Sports Complex) all my life. My first concert was Metallica/ GNR back > in high school. First saw Jewel live at the Tradewinds in Sea Bright, and > I've seen her at MSG and at Jewelstock. Favorite tune: "Sometimes it be > that way". Tune I'd most like her to cover: "We Belong" by Pat Benatar. > Look forward to chatting with you guys. > > Jay > > O/ s p y f l o w e r \O <| |> / \ http://www.freenet.scri.fsu.edu/~sarahec / \ ------------------------------ From: Susan.Kay.Anderson@m.cc.utah.edu (Susan Kay Anderson) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:44:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Jewel's *Perfection* > True, she's not perfection, but she is one truly beautiful thing >in this often ugly world (jaded outlook compliments of life in N.J.). As >for being flamed, I think this is a pretty open minded group. Don't sweat >it. > > Jay And who defines "perfect"? Are we talking about the media's definition of perfect? Or is perfection in the eyes of the beholder? If one had flaws, as beautiful as those "flaws" may be, one could not be perfect in the strictest definition of the word. And who defines "flaws" anyway? "Perfect", "flaws", and "beauty" are just words, and the word is not the thing. Words mean nothing at times when feelings mean everything. Whatever... Susan *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& Susan Kay Anderson Undergraduate Support Dept. of Languages & Literature University of Utah *Susan Anderson Voice Studio* (801)583-3615 (801)585-9438 Private voice lessons*Private Acting Lessons* Audition Techniques*Creative Dramatics* Pop-belt Technique*Improvisation*Directing ------------------------------ From: gillian@intechgroup.com (Gillian Mace) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 12:15:38 -0800 Subject: Jewel's Philosophy Charlie wrote: Also, we all seemed to enjoy Jewel's appearance on Rosie because she actually got to express some of her thoughts on life. She said something like "our minds create our world and our life is our emotional response to that." Again, no comments here. I for one am a little perplexed by this. It is the kind of statement that raises more question than it answers. Which may be it's purpose. Well, Charlie's post has motivated me to make my first public noise to the list (after privately and faithfully enjoying the group's posts for the last 9 months). By the way, thanks to all who have given me Jewel information I didn't have, with more than a few much-needed chuckles along the way. Even though it's been a one way street, I feel that I know a few of you already. What Jewel's comment means to me, Charlie, is that all of us live our lives according to the perceptions we hold. My notion of perception presupposes that there is no inherent reality to the internal world each of us creates, but is instead based upon our unique experiences (and genetics, too, but that's another story). Since this world inside our mind is experiential rather than *real,* our response to what we perceive is by necessity emotional and not analytical. I would go so far as to say that even when we think we are processing in a linear and analytic fashion, we often deceive ourselves. Since our thinking is based on our own perceptions--and are therefore, by definition, personal--we first react emotionally, and only then are able use our so-called logic to justify or change our thoughts and actions. This is not to say that we cannot and do not use thought to modify our emotional responses. Thankfully, most of us have learned certain socially acceptable behavior, even if our first inclination might be otherwise. The overall point I'm trying to make here is that the emotion *always* precedes any rational thought, and therefore shapes how we respond (i.e. how we live our life). I hope this doesn't come across as unnecessarily ponderous, it's just my emotional reaction :-) to what Jewel might have meant by her comments. I'd love to hear from anyone else with ideas on this topic. Isn't it facsinating to imagine what her internal world must look like? Especially since we have some evidence (music, poetry, Jewelstock, etc.) of how her life reflects her experiences. Gillian (just an old philosopher, herself) Mace ------------------------------ From: Laura Capello Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 14:28:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: :) gee eric, you're just now learning to drive a stick? it's one of my most pleasurable things i get to do everyday... shifting gears and the grace of the hands/foot/eye/time coridination thing... love it. i refuse driving automatics now... anyone else starting to become worry for hiryana? i know i spelled her name wrong, but is anyone else alarmed that we found out about jewel being on aol through a press release and not hir? and oklahoma guy, "part of the fun of love is waiting. and if your looking for love, you're not gonna find it" - -- just some helpful advice a bunch of EDA's have told me *sigh* man, and i thought i could keep my sanity in school... capello ------------------------------ From: MrNoctrnl@aol.com Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:31:05 -0400 Subject: Re: NJC: I got a new car IMHO, there is NOTHING like a good, direct 5-speed with a nice sticky clutch. Ah, to shift for yourself is truly the way things should be! To me, automatics generally lack soul, while with a manual you are more connected to the car... kinda like being a fan of a music group because they have kewl hair versus being a fan of Jewel because she blows your mind. Know what I mean? Okay, I'm now curious... how many EDA's drive a stick? I'd bet lots of money that the Archangel herself can... hmm... interesting thought. Anyone know? Duncan, EDA size XL ------------------------------ From: Anthony Prescott Pego Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:34:51 -0500 Subject: Re: grooming and stuuf that makes us "pretty" >I've got to agree with Sarah on this one. The sooner people begin to >realise that the little "flaws" each of us have make us beautiful in our >own way, the sooner we will all gain an understanding of each other. By >the way, Jewel did a great set at MSG. I thought she was better than Neil. > > Jay Neil is a great guy.. hellova writer and a great talent.. but his usage has taken its toll.. I admire his work with Pearl Jam and his recent recordings.. but his best days (in my humble opinion) are to few behind.. in the singing aspect rather. Jewel did out sing him.. no doubt.. I (again.. no flames.. MY opinion) think she's the best singer I've heard. period. Anthony Prescott Pego Little Cub Pego Pi Graphics - Pego Imaging & Web Design [O W N E R] http://www.telepath.com/pmg pmg@telepath.com pmg.pi@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 13:33:00 -0700 Subject: Re: addys Start here http://www.endor.org/jewel/ ------------------------------ From: Anthony Prescott Pego Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:45:04 -0500 Subject: Re: :) and oklahoma guy, "part of the fun of love is waiting. and if your looking for love, you're not gonna find it" - -- just some helpful advice a bunch of EDA's have told me thanks for the advice. wish it would have come years earlier. I figured that one out the hard way.. probably the only way. anyway, I'm just dreaming.. it was just a message to maybe get someone to talk to me. Anthony Prescott Pego Little Cub Pego Pi Graphics - Pego Imaging & Web Design [O W N E R] http://www.telepath.com/pmg pmg@telepath.com pmg.pi@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Anthony Prescott Pego Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:45:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Jewel In Chicago???? >I kinda thought that Jewel was pretty much not into politics. So why >the Rock-The-Vote thing??? > because without a "voice", there's no reason for this type of government.. and without that, there was no reason to break off of the monarchy systems.. (general disclaimer) and please, people.. I know how technical some of you like to get.. being -above average- in intelligence, some tend to get anal about things. but slack off a bit.. I know the correct terms, the correct history.. I'm not much of a dope myself. but this isn't much of a formal talk.. and its definitly NOT an essay.. so please, relax, enjoy.. and chill. this isn't the end of the world, so no worries.. there can be no rainbow without the rain.. Anthony Prescott Pego Little Cub Pego Pi Graphics - Pego Imaging & Web Design [O W N E R] http://www.telepath.com/pmg pmg@telepath.com pmg.pi@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Anthony Prescott Pego Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:48:01 -0500 Subject: Re: NJC: I got a new car >mean? Okay, I'm now curious... how many EDA's drive a stick? I'd bet lots >of money that the Archangel herself can... hmm... interesting thought. > Anyone know? I'm a newby.. so I dunno what an EDA is.. but I drive a 5-speed. - - the newby Anthony Prescott Pego Little Cub Pego Pi Graphics - Pego Imaging & Web Design [O W N E R] http://www.telepath.com/pmg pmg@telepath.com pmg.pi@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Selena Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:46:43 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Re: flowers and other things] X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <32238887.73AA@redrose.net> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 16:45:11 -0700 From: Selena X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: igorwas@smartcitysys.com Subject: Re: flowers and other things References: <199608260245.WAA18071@sable.cc.vt.edu> <3221BF44.2E1F@redrose.net> <32224E5E.1B6D@smartcitysys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Again for some of the younger men, next time instead of wham bam thank you mame, start out with this idea. Start out smelling her. Smell her hair, smell her ears, smell her breath, smell her skin. Do this real slow. Take your time. If you try real hard, you will be able to smell love and passion. Hot has a smell. So even in the dark, you won't call her by the wrong name, you'll remember her smell. Is it hot in here, or is it just me? Selena, feeling flushed ------------------------------ From: Anthony Prescott Pego Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 15:53:25 -0500 Subject: RE: Jewel In Chicago???? >*I* understand the need for the concept of Rock-The-Vote, and how much >good is has done so far, >but I though Jewel had chosen to avoid voicing an opinion on politics >due primarily to a lack of time to >do any research into either candidate/party. > >What I was asking is whether Jewel has taken a different stance on >politics. yeah, I understood that.. but what I meant was that MIGHT be a reason she's doing it.. not because she wants someone specifically to be in office.. but she realizes that SHE might not have had the oportunity to do what she's doing if things were different. Thats the unselfish route.. and as far as I know, thats the path she takes m.o.t.t. Anthony Prescott Pego Little Cub Pego Pi Graphics - Pego Imaging & Web Design [O W N E R] http://www.telepath.com/pmg pmg@telepath.com pmg.pi@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Rafa the archangel <75271.2740@CompuServe.COM> Date: 27 Aug 96 17:22:51 EDT Subject: Very NJC: I'm dead Horatio! Hello Angels , the archangel Rafa speaks ... ( hit the delete button while you still can): About the whole grooming thing , eventhough I'm not a big fan of grooming myself , I do several things that are good for hygene. I clip my nails every week , I try to shave every 2-3 days ( hey I'm still a teenager). and I love to take showers , at least 2 a day and that's partly because there is great humidity and heat down here. I don't pluck my eyebrows , but if it someday becomes a real problem for me I'll begin doing so. I wear eau de toilette ( CK ONE or Cool Waters) and I just splash a bit of it on me , I don't like sharp smells , but I like the sweet light smell of perfume. As for the flowers , I already posted that there's nothing that speaks louder than a 10 pound bag of coffee. I've come to the conclusion that everyone in this list be male or female is in love wityh Jewel and consider her perfect , and it's common for people when in love with someone undermine a person's flaws. Including myself!?! I've also come to the conclusion that a lot of people have a very high regard towards Selena , yet I've never sent an e-mail to her. Whatever-!" Rafa , tis the night that shadows the uncertainty of your heart. Oh but thou not consider the unwillful rage that my rotting soul will disperse and later pervade through the most unconsize (sp?) corners of her body and mind!! Oh vile and incestual creature that men is , conforming his life to other people's unconformist views! "- - excerpt from Rafa's play , still remains untittled- until then your friend and auto cheap archangel :Rafa p.s: Love me , but don't think for one moment that you can recline your tired head on my shoulder ; my soul is a too intricate library of mazes that perplexes her eyes! ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #511 ***************************