From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #417 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Saturday, 27 July 1996 Volume 01 : Number 417 Today's Subjects: ----------------- New Hampshire Here I Come Baby!!!! Re: Jewel's note to the list, part II Campstock II NH My fury about Keri CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... list size.... testing... Re: "react" article: July 22-28, 1996 the insomnia post. Flea Re: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... Does Neil Young allow taping? [Fwd: Re: Shut up about Jewelstock II... please] [Fwd: Re: Greetings] Sorry guys.. but this is a MUST! Poetry Contest? Hey.. JEWEL! :> ehhe Re: Sat. lunch pictures Serious Little Note a WWSYS query Re: a WWSYS query cd collection ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fuzzy the Love Bear & Robb Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:07:07 +0600 Subject: New Hampshire Here I Come Baby!!!! Well all it looks like I'll be able to make it to this show with Fuzzy the Stud Bear in tow. The major problem of getting a ride has been breatched, thank you so much Patricia, now just have to get a ticket and convince my parents that I have to make it to this show for Fuzzy's sake. Also anyone looking to share a hotel room? You might get to sleep with the bear. Till then my friends, I'm going to sleep. Hey Liz you back yet? Fuzzy "Looking FORWARD to STUDING" & Robb "Not looking forward to studying" w/ 12" 'Zilla & Tricky the invisible calico cat Fuzzy's Den updated daily: http://www.vt.edu:10021/R/rleigh/robb.html ------------------------------ From: Stephen Ivy Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 00:18:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Jewel's note to the list, part II >From: The AutoCAD Guy >Subject: Re: Jewel's note to the list, part II >To: sdivy@whale.st.usm.edu (Stephen Ivy) >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 16:04:22 -0400 (EDT) > >> Hi Chris! I somehow missed you at JS, sorry about that. I feel about > >I meant to look around for you...but I kinda got caught up and forgot to >do a whole lot of things...eat, sleep...etc.. ;) > >> will pay me $700 a month. To me what Kerri Shrug did was one of the >> greatest and bravest things I've ever seen. I actually cried and thats not >> something I do very much. I think athletics is something some people just > >same here... > >> can't understand. The meaning of a gold medal or world championship just >> eludes some people. I don't know, but I think competition has probably >> never been a big part of Jewel's life. > >there's competition, it's alot more indirect, but think of it this way, >there's a certain amount of money out there that people spend on >CD's/tapes/concerts, in order for Jewel to live her life as a performer, >and not have that as only a hobby, she had to "win" a portion of that money > >> Therefore, I can understand her >> viewpoint, but not agree with it. I guess that means I'm not a robot, and >> can think for myself. > >I see what you're saying, it's just that her post directly contradicted >the image I had in my mind of Jewel...so sue me for being optimistic, I am/was >a Jewel fan. ;) >I know the specifics are different, but the idea is the same. > >> P.S. - Last night broke my heart. I wanted all those little girls to do >> well. I like it better when people win the competition because of something >> outstanding they did, not because of mistakes by others. > >good point...it didn't feel the same as the team finals did, winning >because you've elevated YOUR performance is infinitely better to winning >because someone elses performance was lowered... > >> ************************************** >> Stephen Ivy (sdivy@whale.st.usm.edu) **** >> ************************************** >> If a patron buys from an artist who needs money (needs money to buy tools, >> time, food), the patron then makes himself equal to the artist; he is >> building art into the world; he creates. >> Ezra Pound (1885-1972), U.S. poet, critic. > >hmm...I like that quote > >chris > >P.S. could you forward this to the mailing list for me, I'm still not sure >how to send multiple copies with this stupid program.... ;) > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Chris Hoeh Georgia Institute of Technology >gt4678d@prism.gatech.edu College of Architecture >http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt4678d Atlanta, Georgia, USA >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >"Do you mean to tell me that you're thinking seriously of building THAT >way, when and IF you are an architect?" > "Yes." >"My dear fellow, who will let you?" > "That's not the point. The point is, who will stop me?" > --- Howard Roark in The Fountainhead, by Ayn Rand >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > ************************************** Stephen Ivy (sdivy@whale.st.usm.edu) **** ************************************** If a patron buys from an artist who needs money (needs money to buy tools, time, food), the patron then makes himself equal to the artist; he is building art into the world; he creates. Ezra Pound (1885-1972), U.S. poet, critic. ------------------------------ From: Fuzzy the Love Bear & Robb Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:26:02 +0600 Subject: Campstock II NH Hey what about camping out on the dunes or something? Does anyone know of any camping places in the area. I can see us all now at the show itching because of the sand in our shorts...eeewww and how do you get sand out of fur? Fuzzy "Looking FORWARD to STUDING" & Robb "Not looking forward to studying" w/ 12" 'Zilla & Tricky the invisible calico cat Fuzzy's Den updated daily: http://www.vt.edu:10021/R/rleigh/robb.html ------------------------------ From: Nannette Mickle Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:19:54 -0700 Subject: My fury about Keri > #3) Kerri Strug - aggravating her ankle injury in exchange for winning a gold medal in gymnastics, probably the highest point one can reach in her chosen career/sport. NOT a sacrifice. This was a choice of hers, she valued winning the event over the pain in her ankle... Okay, so > it's not a tangent anymore...she wasn't FORCED to complete the second > vault, I distinctly heard her coach (Bela Karoly sp?) ask her, "can you do it?" her reply, "I don't know...yes, yes, I can do it." and then she > went and did it, and won (read: achieved her goal) Oh god, I could not believe this post... Chris, I am sure you are a fine individual and I certainly respect you having and speaking your opinion, but I have to *completely* disagree. First off, although I think the Olyimpics are wonderful in many ways and I enjoy watching people with such talent, I have real concerns with the woman's gymastics. First off, it is the only sport in which the atheltes are, in majority, *childeren* not adults... When a child is trained from the ages of 3 and 4 to become an Olymipian, that is *not* their choice. A 3 or 4 year old child does not wake up one day and say, "Mommy, I want to train endless hours every day, give up my childhood completely so that I can be a gymnist." That is the choice of the parents or coaches or whoever, to sacrifice their child's early, formative years for a sport. The amount of pressure and practice and performance is drilled into these young girls at such a young age... Do you really think that Keri had a choice at all in that matter?? When it came down to her doing the second vault, I guess technically she did have a choice, but for god's sake, she has had this instilled in her for countless years that being an Olyimpian is *her* dream. The fact of the matter is I think it is way more the coach's dream and parent's dream than anyone else. Do you see how the American gymnists responded to their coaches? When they finished a performance and they were greeted by their coach with a hug, kiss or whatever, the girls hardly looked their coaches in the eye. It made me sick the night I was watching the women's All Around compition and Shannon Miller was crying because her last chance at Gold slipped away and her coach was telling her, on camera, "Stop crying... You have thousands of people watching you. Take a deep breath and get yourself together." I mean, for god's sake, of course this girl is going to cry. For how many years has she been told the Gold is *her* dream, *her* destiny?? And to see it slip away and not be allowed to show any emotion because their are people watching her? Whatever. Anyways, back to Keri. I wanted to make the strong point that at the time she did her second vault, no one knew the extent of her injury. She was obviously in shock the way she kept heaving and taking short, brisk breathes, for all anybody new she had broken something. And she "chose" to keep going because she had literally billions of people watching her, she new the almighty Gold medal for not only herself, but 6 team members was on the line and her coach was on the sidelines saying, "You can do this! You can do this! Shake it off! Shake it off!" There is no way in hell you can "shake" an injury off. I mean what if she had broken something and that final vault made it so she could never walk again?? Again, I stress that at the time *no one* knew how serious the injury was. But hey, I guess she'd still have the Gold now wouldn't she? Maybe not walking ability for the rest of her life, but the Gold Medal. And there is no way in hell you can convince me that Keri felt the slightest bit of choice in this matter. Afterall the entire United States was depending on her to bring home the gold, apparently at any cost. You can't tell me that the amount of pressure was so overwhelming in intensity that she would choose to say, "No, I need to take care of myself when I have the entire world watching me, my team members and coaches depending on me, and the weight of an entire country to represent." If you only looked at this poor girl's sweet face when she was carried back out to get her medal, she was completely traumatized. Her coach told her to "wave at everybody" which she did upon his command. For me, to see this girl in so much shock and pain and to see her risk her own physical well being, and to see adults that should care about her let this happen, I find quite disturbing. Did anyone actually see her ankle? I did. They showed it without any bandages the night of the Woman's All Around competition. If you saw her ankle and saw how insanely injured it was, it would have made you sick. The size of her ankle was monsterous and the color was a deep blue/black. But like I said before, it is all about getting the gold, at any cost. That could launch me into a whole nother debate about how practically every Silver medalist feels like a failure because they are #2 in the world and not #1 and what that says about the pressure and the coaching, but I think my point has been made. As for Jewel content, I was glad to see Jewel comment on this and see how sick it is to put this type of pressure on any human being. There. I said what I had to say. I am sure I'll get flamed, but oh well. I am so tired of people (I don't mean you personally Chris) but people in general not seeing the whole picture and what goes on behind closed doors. And when it is so blaitanly displayed, such as I feel with Keri, it makes me want to scream at people's denial. > hmm, I better put on a nice thick asbestos suit before I start here, I'm afraid the soon-to-be incoming flames are gonna hurt, but I can't let this go. Too bad Keri doesn't have a nice thick asbestos suit to absorb the pain that she is now in... But I am sure she has plenty of drugs and a pretty gold medal to look at. Okay, that about sums it up. Candra ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:57:13 -0400 Subject: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... To any angels that care.... I have been sent a sign from the lord of all angels to change my handle. So from this moment now... My NEW handle shall be Acid_Burn.... cool huh? Well there's also a story for this change, if anyone is interested........ ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:13:32 -0400 Subject: list size.... I just read that someone commented that the list mail was too much for them and they had to switch to the digest form. I just wanted to agree with Mike's post. The only reason things are @ 4megs/ day is because of JS. Give it a couple of days more.... believe me people will have exhausted what they have to say soon. I think Fuzzy and Rob have already.... and Skinny Pete too. Of course with the NH show coming up soon.... things could still be high too. ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:23:59 -0400 Subject: testing... just wanting to see if I have survived the transformation from Akira to Acid_Burn.... ------------------------------ From: plus@seark.net (plus) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:44:13 -0500 Subject: Re: "react" article: July 22-28, 1996 > and "react" is doing a contest giving away the jewel/duncan sheik >promos that were given out during may's tour. just send a postcard by Aug. >5, 1996, with your name, age, address and phone number to: react/Jewel >giveaway, 711 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10017 i know someone asked this before, but does anyone know if we can enter more than once? plus ------------------------------ From: Steve Ito Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:56:27 -0400 Subject: the insomnia post. Hi all, I'm up at a ridiculous hour because my only sister, whom I love dearly, is leaving in seven hours to go to Japan for at least 3 years. And I can't sleep. Go figure. :-( Anyway, it gives me a chance to get caught up on the Jewel digests! Dan recommended: >No Jewel. But an alert about a little-known artist named Holly McNarland. >Holly's music is rock-based, harder than most of Jewel's, but she combines >that power with some real sensitivity. She's an amazing singer, I saw her >last night and she was absolutely great! If you're in one of these areas, I agree, Holly is great live. Unlike Jewel, her stage manner could use a little work, but her shows are otherwise terrific. And she's still at that stage in her career where they throw out promo buttons and stuff into the crowd, so there's a good chance you'll walk out with a souvenir! :-) Plus you'll get a chance to see the bushiest sideburns this side of Nashville. (Not on Holly, on one of her band-mates!) :-) BTW, thanks for the dates, Dan, I didn't know she was coming back to Toronto so soon. ************ Robb wrote: >live there. I don't know how close it is to many one the list but I think >if Jewelstocking becomes a tradition one of them should be in Toronto. We >could do all kinds of neat things there, like vist the places where Jewel >wrote Nikos, look for yellow BMW motorcycles (side note: good thing he is Yay! I don't know where Jewel wrote Nikos, but I could make up a place if you guys wanted. :-) But you could all visit C'est What, the hallowed ground which saw the first-ever public performance of "Jessica". *********** Dennis typed: >version of the list. If my list posts are bothering list members, let me know >and THEY WILL STOP IMMEDIATELY. (Of course, I'll credit the complaining list Far from it, they're enjoyable and entertaining to read. For all those who weren't at JS, Dennis is just as loud and obnoxious in person as he is on this list. ;-) Just kidding! Steve np: Happy Rhodes, _The Keep_ (terrific album, highly recommended!!!) - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ito, | "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who Psychology Dept. | says differently is selling something." University of Toronto | -- The Dread Pirate Roberts Toronto, ON, Can. | ------------------------------ From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 06:56:24 GMT Subject: Flea Jewel playing with Flea, hmmm...Reminds me of when I asked the question "What songs should Jewel cover?" As you may recall, my choice was "Higher Ground" from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Also, I pretty much lived on "Powerbars and Volleyball" for most of my high-school life. I surf, drive a VW, and I too have a "rogue tooth". Hmmm, I'm thinking there might be some kinda psychic connection here... Finally, I've been busy since JS (work, then BIG waves) so those of you "begging" :) me for my JS story, just be patient, I'll deliver on Tuesday (my first "free day" in over 2 weeks). * * \____/ / JS \ "Powerbars and volleyball..." \ 96 / Jewel- "Satellite" |__| / \ / \ ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:25:27 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... On Sat, 27 Jul 1996, Akira wrote: > To any angels that care.... > I have been sent a sign from the lord of all angels to change my handle. > So from this moment now... My NEW handle shall be Acid_Burn.... cool huh? > Well there's also a story for this change, if anyone is interested........ That's from 'Hackers', right? Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ From: CBrady9158@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:09:23 -0400 Subject: Does Neil Young allow taping? I will be attending the Jones Beach show which Jewel is opening up for and if neil allows taping I will tape it. If anyone knows if he does please post it or privately email me. Thanks Chris ------------------------------ From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:26:01 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Shut up about Jewelstock II... please] X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <31F9462C.206D@smartcitysys.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:26:52 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Organization: smart city systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dean Subject: Re: Shut up about Jewelstock II... please References: <9607260157.AA05737@smoe.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree with Dean. There is a big difference between doing something you want to do, rather than doing something you have to do. We all heard from Lenedra and I think she is saying there will be another event like JS when the time is right. When it happens again because Jewel feels the way she does about her special fans, it will again be special both for the fans and Jewel. Only then can we both be winners. Igor igorwas@smartcitysys.com ------------------------------ From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:26:34 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Greetings] X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <31F9A8C6.3A8A@smartcitysys.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 22:27:34 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Organization: smart city systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MR JARED G JACOBUS Subject: Re: Greetings References: <199607260502.BAA14416@mime3.prodigy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MR JARED G JACOBUS wrote: > > Hi everybody, > I don't often post public notes but I always need to > share my thoughts when I'm drunk aand tonight is one of > thoughs times. My father found out that I failed a test so > he went ape shit as usual. So in order to cure my headache > I drank about half a bottle of vodka and now I feel much > better. I have a hundred more letters in my box so if I > don't answer some for a awhile please understand that I just > passed out before I could finish. > > SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl OK, it's time I show my true colors. I'm not a real angel. I used to be a drunk, amongst other things. So I think it's fair that I kick Jared's ass publicly with all EDA's watching. Are you listening to me Jared. Come on out because I'm going to give you a real asskicking. Hey punk, I'm talking to you. Hey you goddamn Harris Brothers let me go, I want a piece of this guy. He deserves every thing I'm going to give him. I read every post he has written, and now I find out they were written by an alcohol impaired writer. He did a good job fooling me. Every thing he wrote sounded OK. I think I even responded to him on occasion. Doesn't he know he has a whole family of friends on this list and all he has to do is reach out to one of us for help. Hell, we've had people ask for help with school work before. Dean, let me go, your hurting my arm. What do you mean that's what he's doing right now. You mean you think he's telling us about his drinking problem because he trusts us enough to reach out for help. Dennis, you have all the right things to say. What should I tell him. Yea I agree. Every time he wants to have that drink, just put on that Jewel CD. That CD sure changed me quite a lot. Well I can't go talk to him now. He's praying to the porcelain god. Well looks like he's going to pass out anyway. Good thing you Harris Bros. stopped me. You know I don't normally act like this. Maybe when he wakes up, he won't remember any of this happened. It will take a little time for me to calm down so maybe one of you can talk to him. I think he really is a good guy. Today he had a hundred unread letters. Tommorrow he'll have 100 more private posts, I'm sure. I guess even a drunk deserves a second chance. I sure got one. Igor igorwas@smartcitysys.com Russians lied when they named it Vodka. In Russian Voda means water - Vodka means little or light water. ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:32:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sorry guys.. but this is a MUST! Poetry Contest? Hey.. JEWEL! :> ehhe From: IN%"sendpoem@albany.net" "Send-A-Poem" 27-JUL-1996 05:07:07.73 To: IN%"gak4178@ritvax.isc.rit.edu" CC: Subj: Poetry Contest! $48,000 in prizes to be awarded! Poetry Contest! We are looking to compile the greatest collection of poetry. Undiscovered talent welcome. Our organization will award $48,000.00 in prizes in the coming months to amateur poets. Respond to this email address with ONLY ONE poem 20 lines or fewer, any subject, any style, and your poem will automatically be entered into our contest. POSSIBLE PUBLICATION! There is no entry fee and no purchase is required. You retain full rights to your poem. Simply complete the form below and email it to sendpoem@albany.net Good luck! Name (pen name is okay): Complete Street Address: (include all postal info) Poem Title: Poem: (20 lines or fewer) ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 07:52:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Sat. lunch pictures :> Didn't you say Jewel was off to NEW YORK right after the show Fri. night? You :> can't fool your own sister. Yeah, but I got to hand her the book from everyone! =) So she was outside for at least 20 seconds before heading off into the darkness on her boyfriend's cool motorcycle. :> Amy - I'm a Harris, you're a Harris, we're all Harris's - W1GGY "The Bannister's a Harris!" Oh wait.. wrong line of quotes.. :> Gerrit - -- "A conservative is a man who believes that nothing should be done for the first time." - Alfred E. Wiggam ------------------------------ From: Crunch Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:51:35 -0400 Subject: Serious Little Note Jon Reade wrote: >Did you know, I used to be an actor and a writer? I used to live >my life creatively; every conversation, every minor gesture or >affectation was beautiful to me. >And it slipped away and I didn't notice until I heard her sing. Jewelstock kinda slapped me in the face too. I have had a rough year, and was letting it get me seriously down. This summer has had a rollercoaster of ups, downs, and arounds, and until two weeks ago, I really wasn't sure what I was going to make of it. Jewelstock brought alot of light to my eyes, making me sit up and see the world as the wonder I once knew it to be. The atmosphere of Jewelstock settled me and refocused me, reminding me what was important. I credit that to Jewel's heart-stopping performance, the awe-inspiring scenery, and to the wonderful angels I met. I have been busy since. =) =) Mark (aka Crunch) ------------------------------ From: Steve Melisi Date: 27 Jul 1996 09:52:14 -0500 Subject: a WWSYS query In the spirit of "the only stupid questions are the ones that go unasked," I am going to ask what may seem to some a stupid question. You know Who Will Save Your Soul? well, when Jewel sings: He says hold my calls from behind those ??? Boss says come here boy there aint nothin for free What the hell does she say in there where those ??? are? I listen and listen and cant figure it out. And the album lyrics are no help cuz those lines are replaced by the "Another hot dog some fries" lines. I've been a Jewel fan since last February and yet I feel like not one at all because of this one sticking point. Any help out there? - -steve m ------------------------------ From: diciccda@saber.udayton.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:09:13 -0400 Subject: Re: a WWSYS query my best guess is that she says: "cold brick walls" peace, dave diciccda@saber.udayton.edu ------------------------------ From: diciccda@saber.udayton.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:21:00 -0400 Subject: cd collection Hi Angels, yesterday, a friend was over and she was looking at my jewel cds and she counted them and was amazed. she said: "Dave, do you realise that Jewel only has one album out, but you have 19 different Jewel cds!!!!" i was a little surprised myself :) i have the required Pieces of You, STL, PBFGAB, and a bunch of different promos including spew discs....but the sad thing is that i know i am still missing a few of the spew discs am i the only nut with this many different cds? i have at least 4 different cds with WWSYS....and i would think nothing of paying $4 to buy a spew cd with WWSYS...just because i want to be a completionist i think i must be loopy :) i would love to hear how many different cds other obsessive people have peace, dave diciccda@saber.udayton.edu ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #417 ***************************