From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #280 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Sunday, 16 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 280 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Radio And Rare Angel Tapes Word For thr Day... Duncan Sheik Got the time? Another ego-bio! BellStock Neil Young @ SPAC Favorite Jewel songs Re: BellStock Re: jewel does **NOT** smoke Re: Dan finally goes public! Re: Alcohol + Drugs Re: Duncan Sheik Re: If there is interest Irving Plaza tapes, etc. Me Re: Henry Miller Re: jewel does **NOT** smoke About me and a teeny bit of Jewel Personal to Gerald Cho My life and times ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christian Lim Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 08:18:32 -0400 Subject: Radio And Rare Angel Tapes I'm a newbie to this list, so pardon my ignorance. What's on the Radio and Rare Angel tapes? And where can I get them? Christian lim505@openix.com - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sometimes, it takes a minute to figure out who I am, I get a little schizo" - Jessica Hecht "Reality continues to ruin my life" - Calvin from "Calvin And Hobbes" "Made in God's own image" - Calvin "God must have a funny sense of humor" - Hobbes ------------------------------ From: Tim Schoenberg Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 08:32:03 -0600 Subject: Word For thr Day... Hi, Good moriing everyone. I wanted to share a word for the day. It pretty much describes Jewel and you cab look mentally superior at your next meeting of the "word power" club.... Diapasion-Noun.Refering to music 1.A full, rich outpuring of harmonius sound........ There you go.... Enjoy the weekend.... TIm ------------------------------ From: Lisa Schiller Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 10:42:57 -0500 Subject: Duncan Sheik I was looking through the TV listings, and Duncan Sheik is listed as a guest on Conan O'Brien's show this Thursday (June 20), in case anyone is interested. LIsa ------------------------------ From: Sabra Richardson Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 10:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Got the time? Another ego-bio! Hi. My name is Sabra and I'm 20 and I've been on this list for about a year and a half. I have long dark brown hair and I really enjoy Jewel's diapasions :). I'm a student at the University of Utah. I love to hike, swim, read, write, sing, play my guitar, play on the computer, work out at the gym and brush my teeth. I'm learning more French this summer and, one day, going to Quebec to try it out! Oh, and I'm married. :D Guess this isn't a singles ad after all? I am very picky about the type of artist I listen to. I really admire musicians that can do everything themselves. Alanis Morrissette does not qualify (even though her name is pretty cool). So I like the obligatory Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Ani DiFranco, etc. Milla's CD is really good, too. That's how I heard about Jewel in March of '95, was through the Milla mailing list. Also, I have an obsession for Paul Simon. But that's another story. If you haven't heard Harry Connick Jr., you're missing out on everything big-band. I'll probably *not* attend JewelStock because I live in Utah. You're groaning but Utah's really the next Hollywood! Really! A cool thing that happened (I *have* to tell *somebody*) the other night was this: Mon mari et moi are slight fans of Crispin Glover (aka George McFly from the Back To The Future Movies). We were at a Jackie Chan flick "Snake In The Tiger's Eagle's Eye-Fist" or something like that. And we walked out of the theatre and Crispin Glover was standing right there!!! But I was the only one to recognize him. Anyway, my husband talked to him for a bit and we left. I've never really posted except for Jewel encounters and articles, so I guess this qualifies me as closer to becoming a regular "Everyday Angel" (cheeeeese). Yeehaw, sabra - -----------------s a b r a r i c h a r d s o n b e d d e s----------------- ------------------------------ From: MikeAlow@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:02:58 -0400 Subject: BellStock The weekend of July 14th there is an outdoor music Festival in East Jewitt NY. Soes anyone know if Jewel might perform at this show? I'm not positive, but I think it is close to Woodstock. Any information on BellStock itself would also be appreciated. Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ From: MikeAlow@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:02:57 -0400 Subject: Neil Young @ SPAC For anyone in the Albany area of NY, Neil Young's been announced at SPAC for August 25. Hopefuly Jewel is coming too. ------------------------------ From: jasegedy@unccvx.uncc.edu (jason segedy) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:46:22 -0400 Subject: Favorite Jewel songs Hey everybody, Since we seem to be getting back to Jewel-related topics, I was just curious what everyone's favorite Jewel songs are. Of course it is a given that we all like all of them, but it appears that everyone seems to have their favorites. For example, "Jessica" and "Love Me Then Leave Me Alone" have been pretty hot conversation topics as of late. Just thought it would be interesting if anyone else wanted to share which songs (and why, if you feel like it) are their favorites. Personally, I am quite partial to "Amen" (it's dark, and kind of a lyrical kindred of the theme running through the "Faith Poem" included in POY) and "Little Sister" (who couldn't like this song?) I also like "Angel Standing By" (like some of you guys said over the last couple days, would it be possible to put just a little more emotion into that song!?) Well, that's enough of my armchair critique. How about the rest of you? Peace. "We flip through T.V. stations and stop at The A Team and Knight Rider and Fame and laugh with The Cosby Show and Family Ties and Punky Brewster and what you talkin' 'bout Willis?" - -We Are the Children of the Eighties Jason Segedy (aka Stile Shady Wiley) ------------------------------ From: Mike Connell Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:53:23 -0400 Subject: Re: BellStock MikeAlow@aol.com wrote: > The weekend of July 14th there is an outdoor music Festival in East Jewitt > NY. Soes anyone know if Jewel might perform at this show? I'm not > positive, but I think it is close to Woodstock. Well, I know East Jewett is literally a neighbor of Saugerties (site of Woodstock '94) and both are quite near Woodstock, so who knows? Time will tell. BTW, all summer long there are music festivals and concerts in that region, so she may just appear at any or none of them. I seem to remember that she has shows/concerts scheduled on some of the weekend dates during her recording time period, but they were around the country, weren't they? Anyone remember any particular shows? Mike ------------------------------ From: dkasai@sdcc13.ucsd.edu Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: jewel does **NOT** smoke Dave, I believe you when you say, "Jewe does not smoke." and I remember seeing the picture of Jewel with the lollipop stick in her mouth, but I just have one question. How did you know it was grape? j/k Darren K. ------------------------------ From: volt@best.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:10:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Dan finally goes public! At 02:10 AM 6/15/96 -0400, Steve Ito wrote: > >I think it's about time we give him a collective "thanks" for a job >extremely well done. THANKS, DAN!!!! > I agree. THANKS DAN, for giving us Rare Angels and Radio Angels selflessly and for the love of the music. It's an honor to be on the list with people like you who have good hearts. Peace to all my brothas and sistas, volt ------------------------------ From: volt@best.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:10:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Alcohol + Drugs *PLEASE SKIP THIS MESSAGE IF YOU ONLY WISH TO READ JEWEL-RELATED MESSAGES* At 07:46 AM 6/14/96 -0700, Jared S. Hosid wrote: > > Let me be as brief as I can. Alcohol and Drugs (INCLUDING Marijuana) are >BAD NEWS. > No, they can be bad news in EXCESS. They don't necessarily have to have any kind of damaging effect on your life if taken in moderation. > Let's start with alcohol. I have never felt as bad in my life as I have >from hangovers. I prayed for death. Hmmm... that's moderation for ya. >Do what you want, but nothing gives you the right to take away the life of an >innocent person by driving drunk. Agreed. That fucking pisses me off. But nothing gives you the right to take away the life of any innocent by any means. (Unless we get into Hammurabi's code...) > As far as drugs.. I'll deal specifically with marijuana because I would >really like to assume that we can all accept the harder stuff as >fundamentally insane. Marijuana is most definitely addicting. Not >physically perhaps, but sometimes the mind is much more powerful than the >body. Wow, that's deep. Especially since I know so many people that have smoked pot, loved it and haven't done it since their college days because it doesn't fit in with their lives today. Yeah, that's addiction, baby. As far as mental addiction being more powerful than physical addiction, yeah, I would love to see the empirical proof on that one. >I want all of you pot smokers to ask yourselves HONESTLY if you can >stop TODAY. Be honest with yourself. "I don't want to quit" is not an >answer. Can you? I doubt it. I've seen many people use that excuse who >couldn't let it go if there was a gun to their head. This is as much a high horse self-righteous crock of bullshit as I've ever read. Here's a question: don't you have to WANT to stop in order to? So I disagree that "I don't want to quit" isn't a viable answer, cuz I would no sooner stop playing basketball if some media idiot told me it was bad for me than stop smoking pot. Gee, eating greasy food is bad for you. Breathing the air in L.A. is bad for you. Driving in traffic is bad for your stress levels. I think everybody who does these things are addicts and junkies. What closed-minded thinking that is. > > Now, I have been through a lot of problems in my life with friends >starting smoking pot and COMPLETELY CHANGING. I don't need medical proof, >the stuff changes you. I can go on and on about this since its touched my >life so dramatically. > Let's see, "I don't want to quit" is not a viable answer but "I don't need medical proof, the stuff changes you" is somehow more deeply and forcefully convincing? Sorry, but unless you can do the jedi mind trick, you're wrong. Did you ever stop to consider that you're ascribing all of your personal impressions and experiences regarding drugs to everyone else when you make blanket generalizations as to people's experiences with them? I think that that's really naive and extremely arrogant to think that everyone thinks the way you do. What a limited perception of reality. > As a side note, I would say that 100% of the people who didn't make it to >graduate with my class this year smoke pot. Interperet that the way you >want. > Again, unless you know that that's the direct cause of everybody's not graduating with you, then I'd call that shortsighted, self-righteous and arrogant to lay blame on that factor alone. > Pot is NOT cool. And its use will never decrease while we allow it to be >looked at as such. I am one of the biggest Beatles and Dylan fans you will >ever meet in your life. I appreciate their music and lyrics like you could >never imagine - and I do it all sober. > I applaud you. Maybe you're special. But don't condemn everybody who isn't as "special" as you. Or do you condemn us because we're Pieces of You? > I believe one of the themes of the album Peices of You is about how sad it >is that people need all sorts of temporary artificial highs to "save their >souls." Refer to Little Sister. > That is sad, true, but you're not talking about a moderate user. You're talking about a heavy user and an addict. You should distinguish when you make your accusations. I'm sure a lot of pot smokers don't feel like their souls need to be saved -- it's your own perception that they need some kinda saving. In that case, they should pity you for not having the openmindedness to see that we're all different, we all like to do different things in different ways and the standards to which you subject everybody are by no means absolute. That's what Pieces of You is about, the fact that we're all somehow connected to one another, and the judgments we pass on others are also judgments on ourselves. I do not usually post this manner of response to this kind of question. But I object to people throwing out shortsighted and shortminded posts as some sort of gospel. If you don't like something, fine, then don't like it, but don't waste my time preaching to me about why *I* shouldn't like it. Peace, love and respect, volt ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Saint Aski" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Duncan Sheik On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Lisa Schiller wrote: > I was looking through the TV listings, and Duncan Sheik > is listed as a guest on Conan O'Brien's show this Thursday > (June 20), in case anyone is interested. > > LIsa I'm interested! Thanks for the info :) Also I though I should mention that the day after I saw Jewel in Orlando, FL a couple of weeks ago, I was in a local used CD store and guess what I found! A PROMO COPY OF DUNCAN SHIEK'S ALBUM. It was in the bargain bin too. I got it for 4$ and listenned to it when I got home and it's pretty good :). So I'll be watching on Conan for him. Roger +===========================================================+ |Roger Branstetter University of Florida | |http://grove.ufl.edu/~rbranste | |"If I cried me a river of all my confessions | |Would I drown in my shallow regret?" - Sarah McLachlan | |"If you know me so well then tell me which hand I use." | | - Tori Amos | +===========================================================+ ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:32:23 +0600 Subject: Re: If there is interest At 01:06 AM 6/15/96 -0400, you wrote: >Piglet wrote: > >>I was thinking the other day, >>how many out there would like Interchange, Radio, and Rare on CD? > >I don't want to see anyone making money off these. They're meant for our >enjoyment. > >These compilations are too long to each fit onto one CD anyway. And the >originals are just cassettes, so there would be no improvement in quality. >I think it would just be asking for trouble. Maybe I didn't make myself clear: I would not be making any profit, but I don't personally have the equipment yes the quality would only be as good as the tapes but how many people have quality tape players anymore I have a great CD carossel and would love to be able to put five different Jewel CDs in it From what I can tell a CD can currently hold 70+ minutes, and yes there would be some reordering of the songs to make them fit, Interchange could easily be on 2 CDs and Rare and Radio on three with room for about 30 min of more material btw this was just a feeler, I have heard from one other who could do this also I see fliers for people who can put your whole hard drive on CD and talked to one who said he has put taps on CD before, he's a DJ and make's his own house-mix CDs He is a friend of my roomates and could easily get in touch with him the extra fee, if any, would be what ever charge there is from the person who is actually making the CDs don't know what the fee would be and since there is definite interest, from the mail I have gotten what is the most popular choice for the first CD(s) Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies Save the Sailor Moon show! Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ ------------------------------ From: j.mullins1@genie.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 96 19:27:00 UTC 0000 Subject: Irving Plaza tapes, etc. Tom O-Brien asked if there were any tapes of Irving Plaza or the Tradewins shows. There are: there will be a tree of the IP show shortly from my master tape, and also the Tradewinds was taped by at least one person that I know of. A friedn of mine has his phone # and is trying to get a copy from him. But no luck yet... What's the status of the 5-4 tree? Shakey (j.mullins1@genie.geis.com) "People ask why I'm chasing a comet's tail I tell them because standing still is like being in jail" ------------------------------ From: Silver Kat Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:56:37 +0000 Subject: Me Hi there, All these people introducing themselves are making me want to introduce myself... So... here goes... Some random facts... - - Live in NJ, about 45 minutes from NYC - - Still in highschool, am moving to the city soon to start something with music - - Have black hair (sometimes) - - Listen to Jewel, Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Heather Nova, Belly (who have just recently broke up), Throwing Muses, Freedy Johnston etc... More into female singers - - Write poetry (My chapbook/zine is ALMOST done, it's called Vivid... If interested let me know - I'll probably post later about it), short prose and the such... - - Play piano, guitar and sing - - Things that are important to me: Love, happiness and people's ideas - - Am agnostic - - Am pro-choice, don't really think about or even care about the gov't - - Find beauty in music, art, films and people Hmmm... I sure there's more... but that's it for now... Take care, Kim "I showed him my notebook, the underside of my soul, released in scribbles on pages... He smiled and held my hand, I knew that he would see, For he dreams of touching beauty too..." ------------------------------ From: JefffSmith@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:22:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Henry Miller There was a pretty good movie about Henry Miller and Anais Nin about 5 or 6 years ago. It's called "Henry and June". It was one of (if not the) first movie to get the dreaded NC-17 rating. Lots of erotic imagery in the movie, as you can imagine from the rating. Jeff ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: jewel does **NOT** smoke On Sat, 15 Jun 1996 dkasai@sdcc13.ucsd.edu wrote: > Dave, I believe you when you say, "Jewe does not smoke." and I remember seeing > the picture of Jewel with the lollipop stick in her mouth, but I just have one > question. How did you know it was grape? j/k I think there's another picture somewhere that shows better detail on the lollopop. :-) Are there other flavours of purple lollipop? :-) James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Crunch Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 19:10:01 -0400 Subject: About me and a teeny bit of Jewel hey everyone !! i have found the thread in which everyone tells about themselves very interesting. the diversity of the list is amazing. has anyone been compiling a file of self- descriptions?if not, i'll get started on one. maybe i can design a list journal or something... my name is mark. i've been on the list for about three months. i was first introduced to jewel's music about a year ago by someone i had never met. she had a boot and said "hey, listen to this. you'll like it." and i did. to this day, i have no idea who that girl was, an angel i guess. i'm 25, 26 on July 7th. i work alot and play alot. my 'real' job is as a psychiatric nurse, which is lots of fun. i also do sales consulting for a web design firm. i have done alot of producing in the past, mostly raves in the Dallas area. and i've got lots of other stuff on my resume. i am well educated, but refuse to use my education to professional ends. i am a liberal. i believe in change and progression. change is always right, even if it seems wrong at first. i am a celestian and my spirituality comes first. now, wait a minute, i'm no freak (or maybe i am)... i am very laid back. everything will happen as it is meant to. i travel alot and look forward to meeting everyone at Jewelstock and maybe where you live. Until we meet... crunch ------------------------------ From: j.mullins1@genie.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 96 00:28:00 UTC 0000 Subject: Personal to Gerald Cho Sorry, Angels, for teh waste of bandwith, but: Gerald Cho, I have tried to contact you a few times regarding our trade to no avail. Are you still out there? Can you please email me? Thanks! Shakey (j.mullins1@genie.geis.com) "People ask why I'm chasing a comet's tail I tell them because standing still is like being in jail" ------------------------------ From: CJDavid@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL Date: Sun, 16 Jun 96 00:08 EDT Subject: My life and times OK, I'm not sure why you would want to know this, but... I've been on this list awhile so those of you who have too probably know me. I love to clime mountains and often go on dangerous nature hikes where there is great danger of bear attacks. (For those of you who can't interpret humor without my sarcastic voice, I'm joking.) In the fall I am transferring to Barnard so I'll get to have the big Ivy League address. And I'd like to thank Jesus Christ for my success. That too was a joke. Everyone at my graduation said that, though, as they were accepting their diploma. It was really rather sad, but maybe that is because I'm jewish. Although, I don't think so. I think it's sad because I believe that we make ourselves. If you follow around the dead (or did follow, as it should be) and are clever enough to hide the pot in your dreads so you have never been busted for drug possesion, that is your doing that isn't Jesus or God. That's you. (By the way, somoene just told me a story like that, I don't smoke or like the dead.) I like Tori, 10,000 Maniacs, and HORDE-type bands. (many call them jam bands, but I don't really like that term because I don't like jamming as much as the other stuff.) Oh, I also like Belly and Throwing Muses and Sugar. I'm a liberal vegitarian so Natalie Merchant is my ethical god. And that's about it. Actaully, that is more than was needed. Have I mentioned that I'm prone to rambling... Peace, cj (cara is my real name) "You say the world is getting rid of her demons/ I say, 'Baby what have you been smokin'?" ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #280 ***************************