From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #277 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Friday, 14 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 277 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Musicians, hair and Jewel? Re: I'm Back! I'm not even supposed to be here - Dante Mission Impossible !!! DATES FOR CONCERT... Update....~Akira FW: HERE WE GO... JEWEL STOCK INFO!!!!!! just a word.... hair, music, jewel... whatever Smokin' and drinkin' Housesitting - not enough time to lurk...here goes!! Alcohol + Drugs ALL ABOUT AL Re: Henry Miller Jewel's Male Counterpart (in music) Re: Java Joe's Shows Re: Hobby oh mine non-Jewel Re: Alcohol + Drugs Re: DATES FOR CONCERT... re:alcohol & drugs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Piglet Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:53:41 +0600 Subject: Re: Musicians, hair and Jewel? >The DULCIMER? Ahhhhh! (i faint!) If you can play the Dulcimer well it can be so romantic... Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies Save the Sailor Moon show! Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:53:43 +0600 Subject: Re: I'm Back! >attempted to... shall I say force me to smoke some. I do smoke cigars, >preferably Swisher Sweets with wood tip (yeah, cheap) and I like cigarettes >only when drinking. Weird, though I know several people the same way. Must I don't smoke regularly, anymore, but sometimes a nice, cheap, Swisher woodyjust hits the spot >Dean Harris, who is in a cold induced trance like state. Who needs drugs >when we have so many wonderful viruses floating around? :) I've done some of my best writing while under the influence of influenza, hey look at Mozart he wrote his last music under the influence of a virus, atleast that's what I remember from the movie glad to hear your feeling better Dean, though I don't get sick that often I really hate it and always happens at bad times, ie christmas and my birthday Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies Save the Sailor Moon show! Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:59:55 +0600 Subject: I'm not even supposed to be here - Dante oooohhh school sucks was supposed to go home this weekend and see my brother, sister-in-law, and my nephews, of of which I have never meet, but noooooo...my tech writing teacher decides to saddle us with escessive work-Tetsuuuuooooooo!!!!!!! (oh I just have to scream and what great name to scream) but thanks to this new thread I'm making many new friends in the ML, yeah and learning things too, my new bio mentor Jennifer (what do I do with this degree...), and all my new drinking buddies (salute!) to keep me company, YEAH Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies Save the Sailor Moon show! Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ ------------------------------ From: SkinnyPete@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:07:29 -0400 Subject: Mission Impossible !!! NOTE: This message must be read while humming the Mission Impossible theme. This is your mission if you choose to accept it. Skinny Pete will be your pointman as usual. Skinny Pete (aka Thin Peter) will be attending an event in New Hampshire this weekend refered to by the locals as "Motorcycle Weekend". Skinny Pete must infiltrate gangs of bikers to accomplish his mission. He must befriend a large hairy man known only as "Scorpion". His mission will not be completed until "Scorpion" is persuaded to kareoke "Who Will Save Your Soul" in front of his entire gang. Oh, and one more thing, he must enjoy it. Good luck. This e-mail will self-destruct in 5 seconds. - Skinnious Petious p.s. See you Monday. Wish me luck. ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:58:19 -0400 Subject: DATES FOR CONCERT... FOR ALL THE ANGELS THAT MISSED THE PREVIOUS POST.... Hey angelss... I guess you all heard what Hiranya had to say about the dates.... and now we are going to take a consensus. Fact: Jewel can play for us between July 10 th and the 30th. She will only play after a recording session and it can't be during the weekend.. fri, sat, sun. With this in mind I will be taking suggestions on when the concert should take place. EMail me at chi3@ix.netcom.com, and give me 2 dates per message. I will compile them into a group, and take the dates majority says.....This will be going on for a while..... so that everyone can have a voice.:) ps... mail me if this message is kind of screwy on your computer. I seem to have a problem with message format, and want to know if it is still there. ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:06:59 -0400 Subject: Update....~Akira Angels... I know for the past few days you haven't really heard anything about the concert and for some, it was a major relief, and for others... it was like being on the 3rd level of hell. I mean you didn't come home from work and find 127 unread messages about the concert waiting for you.... whew! I just wanted to tell you that, as far as we know, the concert is still good. We are just waiting for Hiranya and their crew to get decisions permanent on their end before we can do anything further... Will keep you updated on everything... stay tuned~Akira. ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:13:10 -0400 Subject: FW: HERE WE GO... JEWEL STOCK INFO!!!!!! FOR THOSE ANGELS THAT MISSED THE OTHER POSTS... fellow angels... here begins a journey to JEWEL STOCK.,.... Mike and ME, Akira, have begun the process to organize this get together with JEWEL. The concert is going to be held at or near Woodstock, and it's going to be soon. Jewel is going to begin recording on June 18th there and around that time is when she will give us a concert. So it's going to be fast and soon. We want to begin taking a head count of all those that can make it to this event. EMAIL ME AT CHI3@IX.NETCOM.COM to tell me if you can make it or not and how many. I am beginning to put together a member/concert list and need to take a rough head count. I will then email you later to confirm if you are coming or not. For those angels that can't make it, I will personally make a digital recording (if possible) of the whole thing, and send it to you. All I will need from you is to cover the postage and single regular tape. So all will enjoy Jewel even if you can't be there in person. SO begin the email and We'll keep you informed. This listing will be posted for 7~10 days so that everyone can have a chance to email me.~Akira ------------------------------ From: pingman@asu.edu Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:41:44 -0700 (MST) Subject: just a word.... jewel is one of the most talented and creative musicians that I have ever heard (with respect due to Bjork and Tori). I just wanted to get that off of my chest. thank you and goodbye. ------------------------------ From: Gregory Willms Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: hair, music, jewel... whatever it seems like everyone is getting pretty detailed about themselves as far as this topic is concerned. only only put in my hair color and age. so naturally, im feeling left out and im going to share a bit more. im 20 years old, a former bowling green student (not graduate), i was majoring in psychology, specifically criminal psychology. i now work at a company call CheckFree and my job is to tell people how fix fix thier computers. that may sound really crappy to some people but i sit in the air conditioning in a really comfortable chair and send e-mail and hong out on netscape all day... not to mention i get to hang out with a bunch of really kewl people. im NOT a computer geek, trust me, im not :) ...not that theres anything wrong with people who like computers a whole lot... lets see... ive played guitar for about 10 years now (yes, since i was 10), i play a little bass, a little piano, and i sing. i was in the mens chorus at bowling green. i like some sports... hockey, hockey, hockey, and hockey. i also like to write, mostly poetry and prose. i dont want much out of life, just a jeep wrangler and an incredible love. i guess an incredible love is a lot to ask for, but ill take it in exchange for a big house with a swimming pool any day. - -greg - -"Don't you worry, I'm your angel standing by." --Jewel ------------------------------ From: jasegedy@unccvx.uncc.edu (jason segedy) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:26:04 -0400 Subject: Smokin' and drinkin' After all of the interesting debate on smoking, drugs, and drinking that has occured on this list, I thought I'd share something that I got off the net today. I'm sure that we can all agree, regardless of our opinions, that this crosses the line just a wee bit. - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From the Napa (CA USA) Register, Sunday June 9, 1996: "DRINKING PRESCHOOLER Winchester, Ind. (AP) - After a 3-year-old boy in his underwear was seen "holding a can of beer and smoking a cigarette," the man taking care of him was charged with neglect. The child was removed from the house after he told a county welfare worker: "Yeah, man. Smokin' ... cigarettes is cool, man." The boy also said he'd consumed up to three beers at a time. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "We are the ones who still read Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys, the Bobbsey Twins, Beverly Clearly and Judy Blume, Richard Scary and the Electric Company." - -We are the children of the Eighties Jason Segedy (aka Stile Shady Wiley) ------------------------------ From: Ncottrell@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:40:04 -0400 Subject: Housesitting - not enough time to lurk...here goes!! Hi, all. Well, to begin, my name is Michael and I'm using my friend's computer while housesitting for him to check out this list because: 1) naturally, i Iove Jewel. And her music isn't that bad either. 2) i don't have a computer of my own as of yet -- oh the shame and humiliation. Anyway, about me: I'm a 24 year old senior at the University of Arizona (and very proud of it -- BEAR DOWN!!!!). And yes, it's taking awhile for me to complete my studies. I'm a political science major and I'm taking my last 12 units of French through correspondence so I can live in Phoenix, AZ ('cause Tucson is pretty grungy outside of the campus area). Other than that, my interests include pretty much all sports, listening to music (Jewel, Cranberries, Gin Blossoms, Oasis), and doing political volunteer work. Probably sounds dull huh? QUESTIONS: What in the heck is JewelStock (I'm afraid I missed that one, sorry!)??? Also, what's the story behind the Jewel-Dolores thing that I read about??? Well, thanks to anyone out there who's listening (or reading). - ---- "m'i ruoy legnA gnidnats yb" Michael Measel email UNTIL SATURDAY JUNE 15 : Ncottrell@aol.com Tucon, AZ ------------------------------ From: "Jared S. Hosid" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 07:46:43 -0700 Subject: Alcohol + Drugs Hey all- I have been lurking the list for quite a while, and although I'm sure no one wants to see this thread continued, I felt I couldn't watch it go the way it was. Let me be as brief as I can. Alcohol and Drugs (INCLUDING Marijuana) are BAD NEWS. Let's start with alcohol. I have never felt as bad in my life as I have from hangovers. I prayed for death. I don't understand why anyone would want to have this feeling - especially over and over again. Just coming back from prom weekend where there was enough there to give Budweiser a huge profit margin for the next few years, I saw enough people praying to the porcelin god to know its bad stuff. Not only that, but I've had to wrestle keys away from enough drunk people to know that when you are in that state you don't KNOW you aren't good to drive, and this can lead to BAD BAD things. Do what you want, but nothing gives you the right to take away the life of an innocent person by driving drunk. As far as drugs.. I'll deal specifically with marijuana because I would really like to assume that we can all accept the harder stuff as fundamentally insane. Marijuana is most definitely addicting. Not physically perhaps, but sometimes the mind is much more powerful than the body. I want all of you pot smokers to ask yourselves HONESTLY if you can stop TODAY. Be honest with yourself. "I don't want to quit" is not an answer. Can you? I doubt it. I've seen many people use that excuse who couldn't let it go if there was a gun to their head. Now, I have been through a lot of problems in my life with friends starting smoking pot and COMPLETELY CHANGING. I don't need medical proof, the stuff changes you. I can go on and on about this since its touched my life so dramatically. As a side note, I would say that 100% of the people who didn't make it to graduate with my class this year smoke pot. Interperet that the way you want. Pot is NOT cool. And its use will never decrease while we allow it to be looked at as such. I am one of the biggest Beatles and Dylan fans you will ever meet in your life. I appreciate their music and lyrics like you could never imagine - and I do it all sober. I believe one of the themes of the album Peices of You is about how sad it is that people need all sorts of temporary artificial highs to "save their souls." Refer to Little Sister. I can go on and on. Thanks for bearing with me, and please, if you feel similar, always be sure to make your voice heard. Things can only get worse as society continues telling people "everyone's doing it." -jared; ------------------------------ From: Alice Esteves Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ALL ABOUT AL Well, I've never heard this song, but I saw the lyrics and have two comments. (Noy meant to be positive or negative, or imply that Jewel is ripping anyone off or anything, just what popped into my mind) Comfortably Numb .... Me and Jesus, we go way back > >Cause we used to hang at the mall 1) Comfortably Numb is also the name of a Pink Floyd song (from the album THE WALL; and it's also on PULSE) -----Just wonering, how many of you like Pink Floyd? 2) This excerpts of lyrics reminds me a lot of lines from Tori Amos's "Me and A Gun" Me and Jesus used to hang a few years back... ********* Well, my name is Alice Esteves. (sometimes my friends call me Big Al--I'm not laarge in mass, but in personality, and my loudness often makes me seem huge.) I am 16 years old with brown hair that goes several inches past my shoulders and has a lighter brown streak in the back that I bleached in, but you can only see it when my hair falls a certain way. I've been playing guitar fairly seriously (atleast an hour + 1/2 or 2 every day). I'm attempting to get a band together, but I can't find anyone to play with who already knows how to do something. I also sing. I've written a few songs, but I'm definitely still in the earliest learning stages. I'm ending my sophomore year of highschool and am interested in persueing creative writing (specifically fictional short stories). I also am really interested in law but am not considering becoming a lawyer. I also dance like 6 hours a week (tap, jazz, ballet, lyrical, and toe) But, beyond anything else in the world I love to act. I may decide to just risk it all and go after that--but I still have time. Well, there's my Bio. I hope to be at Jewelstock. I'm working on getting a ride (I can't drive yet) and am waiting for a date... Love Always. Alice ------------------------------ From: Alice Esteves Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Henry Miller Well, I just finished Tropic of Cancer. And although this "school girl" (16/female) has her interests in sex, I didn't really have that type of problem with the book of getting caught up in the "dirty-parts" (not that I feel sex is dirty by any means-quite the contrary, it can be one of the purest most beautiful things on earth-but that's another topic). I I did manage the storyline, so I definitely reccoment you re-reading it, and everyone else should read it for the first time. Also, about Anais Nin. She was a very amazing human being. I read some of her Erotica (whatever erotica means anyway, not really porn, just very sensual in a fairly explicit way-is that your definition?) anyway, if you don't get offended or morally turned-off by that type of thing, the book I read was called "Little Birds" and was a collection of short stories and was pretty good. Love Always, Alice Esteves On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Robert W. Campbell wrote: > cheller@linknet.net wrote: > > "You can be Henry Miller and I'll be Anais Nin." --Jewel > > (one of my favorite lines from a song ever) > > I love that line too. Almost every school boy has read Henry Miller (Topic > of Cancer was my fav, and I remember him dying in 1980), but it did send me > to find out more about Anais Nin. I knew there were these women in his life, > but when you are 13 or 14 years old reading Henry Miller, you don't catch a > lot of the story lines. In fact you end up reading the same section over > and over.(sad isn't it) Made me think I need to reread his novels again. > > ROB > ------------------------------ From: "tastypick" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:51:52 +0000 Subject: Jewel's Male Counterpart (in music) Hey Everybody, I was trying to think of male artists that are similar to Jewel. I have actually been thinking about this for awhile. I wanted to find a male artist with the same qualities and sound that Jewel passes on in her music. After coming up empty for a few days, a friend of mine turned me on to this new artist named David Gray (he's from Wales). He just came out with a new album called "Sell, Sell, Sell" on EMI Records. IMHO, this guy is unbelieveable. His firm voice, complemented by his competent accoustic guitar playing makes Gray one of the most up and coming singer/songwriters I have heard since I first saw Jewel for the first time in California a few years ago. Needless to say, I reccomend the album. Can anybody else think of male Jewel counterparts? Jeff ------------------------------ From: Jordan Snodgrass/Flood Myth Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:11:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Java Joe's Shows PDeSanti@lmumail.lmu.edu wrote: > I was just wondering for people there the 2nd night or even both > nights if Jewel's Mom sang at all on the 2nd night. If the 2nd show > was busted about 40 minutes in and she eventually set up to play > unplugged outside (is this correct?) probably 20 minutes later, Jewel > was probably not in the mood to have her mom sing with her in the > parking lot with all the extraneous noise of cars and other things. her mom wasn't even at the second show.. just the guy with the hair in front of his face who sat behind her during the 1st show. - -- js. mailto:jsnod@owl.csusm.edu http://www.csusm.edu/public/guests/fm/ "This love is like barbed wire running through my veins..." ------------------------------ From: "Mr. Saint Aski" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Hobby oh mine non-Jewel On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Piglet wrote: > just wondering...anyone out there into RPGs? > > Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] I love rpg's :) Roger +===========================================================+ |Roger Branstetter University of Florida | |http://grove.ufl.edu/~rbranste | |"If I cried me a river of all my confessions | |Would I drown in my shallow regret?" - Sarah McLachlan | |"If you know me so well then tell me which hand I use." | | - Tori Amos | +===========================================================+ ------------------------------ From: teffta@crypt.erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:15:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Alcohol + Drugs > > Let me be as brief as I can. Alcohol and Drugs (INCLUDING Marijuana) are > BAD NEWS. > > Let's start with alcohol. ... hangovers ... praying to the > porcelin god ... driving drunk. You're not talking about alcohol. You're talking about alcohol abuse. Nobody disagrees that alcohol abuse is a bad thing. But alcohol itself doesn't have to be a bad thing. I am a homebrewer. I love beer. I love to make it and I love to drink it. On occasion I drink a lot of beer. I can't tell you when the last time is that I had enough to give me a hangover though; I have never drunk enough to puke even in my younger days, and I don't like driving after I've had *anything* to drink. Most weekends I have one or two beers a night while I'm relaxing. Often I have one with a meal -- sometimes even (gasp) lunch! There is much more to alcohol enjoyment than just getting drunk. And there can even be much more to it than the social factor. Brewing is a hobby much like cooking -- whether we're talking about beer or wine. In these ways alcohol is different than other drugs, which are used solely for their mood-altering ability. Alcohol doesn't *have* to be bad news. ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: DATES FOR CONCERT... I do believe that Hiranya said that Jewel would be willing to do a Friday show after a Thusday show if a lot of people wanted to go. I took this to mean that Friday was ok for a concert day and that the weekend would be comprised of Saturday and Sunday. Paul Kim ------------------------------ From: Tim Schoenberg Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:59:29 -0600 Subject: re:alcohol & drugs Hi, I just wanted to comment on this thread and make a few statements in general. Fist I feel it is great to be passionate about your feelings, especially like this person. I think if we all didn't have passionate feelings we wouldn't be listening to Jewel. With that said, let me also say this is NOT NOT NOT the newsgroup to be sharing are thought's about the moral/legal/philosophical implications and the "right" or "wrongness" of drugs. Those concepts are ideas that should be shared with people on a newsgroup or mail list that wan that. I admire people who like to share their ideas. It bother's me howerver when I have to listen to those idea's when I don't want to. Sure....just don't read the e-mail you say. That is a logical argument except that I shouldn't have to worry about what e-mail to open and not....My point is just send direct e-mail to each other on this subject. this is a group of people who want news, info, and insight to Jewel. We should limit the subject's to Jewel or non-debateable topics. Just my .02. Please e-mail me if you have been offended or would like to flame away. Thanks, Tim Hey all- I have been lurking the list for quite a while, and although I'm sure no one wants to see this thread continued, I felt I couldn't watch it go the way it was. Let me be as brief as I can. Alcohol and Drugs (INCLUDING Marijuana) are BAD NEWS. Let's start with alcohol. I have never felt as bad in my life as I have from hangovers. I prayed for death. I don't understand why anyone would want to have this feeling - especially over and over again. Just coming back from prom weekend where there was enough there to give Budweiser a huge profit margin for the next few years, I saw enough people praying to the porcelin god to know its bad stuff. Not only that, but I've had to wrestle keys away from enough drunk people to know that when you are in that state you don't KNOW you aren't good to drive, and this can lead to BAD BAD things. Do what you want, but nothing gives you the right to take away the life of an innocent person by driving drunk. As far as drugs.. I'll deal specifically with marijuana because I would really like to assume that we can all accept the harder stuff as fundamentally insane. Marijuana is most definitely addicting. Not physically perhaps, but sometimes the mind is much more powerful than the body. I want all of you pot smokers to ask yourselves HONESTLY if you can stop TODAY. Be honest with yourself. "I don't want to quit" is not an answer. Can you? I doubt it. I've seen many people use that excuse who couldn't let it go if there was a gun to their head. Now, I have been through a lot of problems in my life with friends starting smoking pot and COMPLETELY CHANGING. I don't need medical proof, the stuff changes you. I can go on and on about this since its touched my life so dramatically. As a side note, I would say that 100% of the people who didn't make it to graduate with my class this year smoke pot. Interperet that the way you want. Pot is NOT cool. And its use will never decrease while we allow it to be looked at as such. I am one of the biggest Beatles and Dylan fans you will ever meet in your life. I appreciate their music and lyrics like you could never imagine - and I do it all sober. I believe one of the themes of the album Peices of You is about how sad it is that people need all sorts of temporary artificial highs to "save their souls." Refer to Little Sister. I can go on and on. Thanks for bearing with me, and please, if you feel similar, always be sure to make your voice heard. Things can only get worse as society continues telling people "everyone's doing it." -jared; ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #277 ***************************