From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #276 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Friday, 14 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 276 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Hobby oh mine non-Jewel this is a long post...... Anais Nin and Henery Miller beer.... Sinjin's Bio & brief comment on Jewelstock soiling myself jewelshows Re:Va and Boston... LTD: Fish Family Resume lurker revealed Henry Miller Re: jewel-digest V1 #272 Anais Nin Java Joe's Shows Anais Nin Bio Re: Musicians, hair and Jewel? I'm Back! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Piglet Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:13:06 +0600 Subject: Hobby oh mine non-Jewel just wondering...anyone out there into RPGs? Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies Save the Sailor Moon show! Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ ------------------------------ From: Lauren Wilshusen Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:23:35 -0700 Subject: this is a long post...... > if you've ever listened to music while high you will surely concede that it > is easier to "hear" music when high... when you're on acid, it feels like you're a part of the music, as if you're there. > > you say that kurt's drug use did not allow him to see how much people dug his > music etc.... finally something worth replying ti( don't take offense anyone, i just have no interst in jewelstock because i have no chance of going) please oh please don't dwell on kurt;s drug use. he was a wonderful musician regardless. > > a counterargument could be: yes, but you must also understand that a lot of the > music kurt wrote was written high.... he was a major junkie... yes he was. anyone that does herion is. herion becomes their life. but then again, not something to dwell on.... > i have only used marijuana in my life...but i think that to buy into the society > line that every effect of drugs is bad. is rather silly.... i couldn't agree with you more.... The media is powerful. Stop > paying too much attetion to TV. thank you! thank you! thank you! hardly anything they say on the news etc about pot is ever true. but of course people believe it because the news wouldn't lie. > I bet if she had to live in her van for, say, 10 years, then she would > probably wind up a drunk or a junkie or something (not a pretty thought, but > let's face it, she IS only human, and 10 years of going nowhere is hard to > take. It's killed some pretty strong people). And how do you know she never > smoked pot? does it really matter? if jewel doesn't want to smoke, she isn't going to. it doesn't matter where you live row who you are. your desicions aren't made by your surroundings, they're made by YOU. And also, do you realize HOW MUCH you have to smoke to fry your > brain? Nobody living in a van could afford it, that's for sure. btw, no one has ever dies from pot. too bad the same thing can't be said about cigs.... > I also don't know anybody who got into harder drugs from smoking > pot, so please don't start about "Pot leads to coke and smack, etc". It > depends on the person. Someone who is going to shoot up is going to do it > wether they smoked grass before or not. It's all a concious decision on the > individual's part. > I'm not telling everyone to go out and smoke pot...that's your > choice. But don't downplay it like everyone who smokes pot has no self- > esteem or sense of reality. That isn't true, and when I see comments like > that, it sounds like inexperience talking. Like I said earlier, I'm not > trying to flame, just offering up my 2 cents, based on my experiences. > > Mikey (comments always welcome) > > Shakey (j.mullins1@genie.geis.com) > > "People ask why I'm chasing a comet's tail > I tell them because standing still is like being in jail" > > ------------------------------ > > From: jlthomp@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU (Joseph Thompson) > Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:57:25 +0000 > Subject: [none] > > Hi, Angels. This is my first post to the list. My name is Joe Thompson. > I'm 28 and work at IUPUI (for those in the INDY area: Greg Dunn, Toni). I > don't want to call myself a lurker; I simply choose to remain in the > background and diligently read all the emails posted. But why do I choose > to emerge now? No, it's not to guarantee my place at Jewelstock (which I > must say blew me away when I read the post; I do plan on attending). I > simply began to recognize many of the individuals on the list and expect to > hear from them as you would a friend. I've been on the list since April > 15, 1996, and, except the time I deleted 700+ emails [many subjects > concerned politics] (I had a family emergency and was gone for two weeks), > I have read all messages. > > As I read through the influx over the past week, I sense a friendship > growing among the group. Dan Stark from Canada referred in one message to > people "who don't even personally know each other". True, we don't > personally know each other, but we do know alot. And then, with Rafa's > inquiry (have fun in France, Rafa), our list members began to come forth > and tell a little about themselves. Ken, who has been instrumental in > designing our current tape tree, has other committments as best man (if I > recall correctly). We learned more about Sabra Richardson Beddes (yes some > of us read the full name) when she expressed concern about inappropriate > language. And like Carter "who always has a cool quote" Navarro and Paul > "with equally cool quotes" Kim, we beomce more personal as we reveal more > and more about ourselves, our likes and dislikes. I think we are beginning > to know each other personally and hope that this interaction remains as > dynamic. > > I just wanted to thank you all for helping through a day at work or just > being there as a diversion to some of the personal tragedies I have had in > my life recently. Thanks for the t-shirt organization; I look forward to > wearing mine proudly, whatever the design or style. Thanks for the > Jewelstock organization; I can't wait to meet the list family in New York. > And thanks to Jewel, for bringing so many diverse people together. Our > views are under > 2) they tend to mess up people's lives (hey, I watch talk shows, I know these > things !) i really hope you're joking. if not, i feel really sorry for you... > 3) To me, pot is the second most foul smelling substance in the world ( the > first being patchouli) i like the smell of both..... > "You can be Henry Miller and I'll be Anais Nin." --Jewel > (one of my favorite lines from a song ever) okay, i might be asking a really stupid question, but the way i see it, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask--who are theese people? - -- "Holding my baby," said Kurt, "is the best drug in the world." ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:33:02 +0600 Subject: Anais Nin and Henery Miller are two American writers who were hoplessly in love with each other, of the early twentieth century who were both censored for there erotic and provocative books, Miller so much to the point where he was esentually kick out of the US Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies Save the Sailor Moon show! Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ ------------------------------ From: Edward Hodgin Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: beer.... I told myself I would *not* enter into this discussion, but I heard something on a Simpsons rerun that just has to be said (not an exact quote; please don't post correcting me). Barney: You shouldn't drink to escape your problems, you should only drink to improve your social skills. ::BBBBUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPP:: hopefully the only time I have a quote in my e-mail.... ed ------------------------------ From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:30:42 GMT Subject: Sinjin's Bio & brief comment on Jewelstock Here's the comment I have on JewelStock, it's very short so be warned the rest of this letter is mindless self indulgent babble about myself. The people in charge of setting up JewelStock, please make sure you set the date in stone AT LEAST two weeks before the concert is supposed to take place so those of us who have to fly there can get a discount on airfare! Now for the unimportant Sinjin Bio! NAME: Sinjin is one of the greatest beach volleyball players in history..not to be confused with the guy from Airwolf. AGE: 21, and *way* single SCHOOL: I'll get my associates degree in business after next year, I've already earned a certificate in fire science. HAIR: It *would* be light brown and shoulder-length, but the fire dept. made me cut it, grrr! It's weird how people treat you different just on how long your hair is though...(singing to PoY "He has long hair, does that mean he's generation X? He has long hair, does he only want your daughter for sex?" Ok, bad rhyme, but that's why I don't have the record contract). HOBBIES: Surfing, snowboarding, Scuba, beach volleyball, the beach, keeping in shape (swimming, lifting, running) JOB: I'm an L.A. City lifeguard and volunteer fireman, trying my best to get hired! (Jewel has inspired me to follow my dream!) POLITICAL BS: I'm a total right-wing, religious, conservative republican...and proud! That's what I like about Jewel's music, it can unite people who otherwise might be at each other's throats. FAVORITE JEWEL SONG: Carnivore QUOTE: "There's always someone better." -Sinjin, 1990 /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ ***This is a test of*** / / J -THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SINJIN- R \ \ E U / / W "Besides, what would I say L \ \ E if I had you online..." E / / L Sinjin@ecn.com S \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------ From: Crunch Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 02:49:39 -0400 Subject: soiling myself last night i dreamed. i dreamed that i was a star and i was invited to the grammies. then, like a vengence, whitney houston exploded out of her human shell. she was dressed in black satin and antlers grew from her matted hair. fire-breath washed across my timid profile as she coiled to end my pathetic life. i w-w-w-wo-wo-w- woke up. and there i was in heaven with jewel smiling down on me. and i said "it's all good !!!" ------------------------------ From: AESTHETE99@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 03:34:20 -0400 Subject: jewelshows Is there any page on the net that is actually updated with current dates/places of shows? I need to know.....desperately. ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re:Va and Boston... On Thu, 13 Jun 1996 ALalas@aol.com wrote: > Jewel is playing at the San fran thing but wasn't mentioned by Kurt Loder. > He only named the other 15 bands playing there. Granted all the other > artists were bigger than jewel as far as MTV is concerned so i'll not get too > annoyed about it. The reason Loder didn't mention Jewel is that she's not playing at the Tibet Freedom Festival. She is playing at a radio station festival the day before the festival starts. The station has tried to tie it in with Free Tibet, but it's not part of the actual festival. Just trying to clarify. :) Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us "You have a fire down in genius, subtlety And you slip through the fingers of ambiguity." "You can always detect the breaking of a voice Or you can always defect and walk away from the choice." ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 05:06:18 -0400 Subject: LTD: Fish Family There's a man on the front porch Says he's related to me But lately I'm finding it hard to believe This house is filled with spooks and ghosts They say they're family But they are strangers at most They're strange fishes of the deep blue sea And absolutely nothing like me They swim around their little treasure chests When it comes to loving me they give it their fish best But it's hard with all those scales of good and bad you see They're my fish family My fish family They may try and hook me Or put me in a tank They may try and book me For robbing a fish bank 'cause misunderstanding comes easily But they're blowing bubbles And I can hardly breathe And when will they understand I Just wanna marry a man Without seaweed in his teeth, Without barnacle for hair Without seaweed in his ears But their fish ears won't hear me They're my fish family They're strange fishes of the deep blue sea And absolutely nothing like me They swim around their little treasure chests When it comes to loving me they give it their fish best But it's hard with all those scales of morality They're my fish family My fish family. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS danstark@mnsi.net NOW IN EFFECT! Windsor, Ontario, Canada - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 05:06:21 -0400 Subject: Resume I see lots of "resumes" from folks lately. A lot of the people who have been on the list for a while know my story, but for the newer people, this is me... Production Director at a group of 4 radio stations: 89X (FM) - Modern Rock The River (FM)- AAA 580 Memories - Nostalgia 800 CKLW - News/Talk All four are combined in one studio complex in Windsor, Canada, but 3 of the stations position themselves as Detroit stations, and have sales and promotions offices in Detroit. 800 aims at Canada. The River is fairly progressive for a commercial station, and played WWSYS a year ago, and the remix of YWMFM when it was put out. WWSYS is back in high rotation on The River for the second time now, thanks to all its exposure on MTV, VH1 etc. 89X is on it for the first time now, like a lot of other Modern Rock stations. I've only been here for about 6 months. Before that I was at stations in St. Catharines/Niagara, not far from Toronto, which is where I first saw Jewel play in a small club the week POY was released. I come from a family where I was surrounded in music. My parents are both music teachers and performers. My mother teaches the violin and my father is a PhD of music and a university voice and music history instructor. He recently released a CD called Songs of Middle Earth, his interpretations of songs from the Tolkein trilogy which he performs playing Irish harp. He's spent many years of his life researching the workings of the human voice, evidently making some fairly signifigant revelations which I don't yet understand, but which will be printed in a university text next year he is currently finishing. All of this is probably why I have some pretty broad musical taste, but it doesn't really go that heavily into classical. I tend to like rock/pop/folk/blues artists with strong voices and obvious musical talent and training, and I have a soft spot for great female vocalists. I guess Jewel pretty much fits that description perfectly, which probably explains why I like her so much. I'm on exactly two artist-specific mailing lists of this nature, Jewel and Happy Rhodes' "Ecto", which I joined while looking for Jewel info. I'm not a fanatic Happy Rhodes fan, although I've come to like her stuff quite a bit, but the discussions of similar artists on ecto have turned me onto some great new artists I would never have heard of otherwise (thus the reason for my Patty Griffin post here a couple days ago in that tradition). I'm also on receive-only mailing lists for Columbia Records, Nettwerk Records, Heather Nova, and The Tragically Hip. Because I was concerned about Atlantic reps visiting here and getting upset about my role in this, I've never mentioned it here, but since Lenedra and Jewel have been so supportive I guess I don't mind saying I'm the compiler of the Rare Angels and Radio Angels tapes that so many of you have. I don't really tape a lot of concerts I go to, but I found Jewel does so much great stuff live that isn't on CD I started bringing a Walkman to catch it, and when there were still less than 100 people on the list I got together with Neile Graham, Steve Ito, Ken Lee, Jeff Burka, and some other contributors to get our collective unreleased rarities onto one tape to share amongst ourselves. Radio Angels followed later. I guess it's worked out pretty well, since this stuff is still being traded among list members like we wanted it to be, and not being pirated elsewhere that I know of. Jewel and her Mom and management have been wonderfully open to our sharing this stuff too, which is somthing I totally respect. Some artists officially allow taping at their shows (Greatful Dead, Metallica, Black Crowes come to mind), but it's still an unofficial privelege for us to trade these Jewel shows, and the fact that there has been such respect for that among everyone here has been great to see, and has allowed us to openly continue. I guess this post went way longer thn I intended, so ttyl, Dan - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS danstark@mnsi.net NOW IN EFFECT! Windsor, Ontario, Canada - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Gary Brine Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 07:12:52 -0700 Subject: lurker revealed Hi All, Thought I'd open up a little as you guys seem OK. I'm 41 and I manage a re-hab facility for head injury patients. I have no educational background as I dropped out of high school. My hair is short. I fly float planes, ride mountain bike, play lots of hoop, run (even without the police chasing me),ride motorcycles, and I love live music (although I'm not musically inclined myself). I"ve seen Jewel three times (in Boston),lucky me. I live on the ocean and get my heart broken on a regular basis. I've never smoked ciggys or drank beer but I do have coctails about every other month, no time for pot or caffine. I try not to judge people, just enjoy em. It seems kind of silly seeing my life summed up on an e-mail like this, but I really enjoy this group and I wanted to add a little to it. Gear "Get obsessed and stay obsessed" J.Irving, Hotel New Hampshire ------------------------------ From: "Robert W. Campbell" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:00:12 -0700 Subject: Henry Miller cheller@linknet.net wrote: > "You can be Henry Miller and I'll be Anais Nin." --Jewel > (one of my favorite lines from a song ever) I love that line too. Almost every school boy has read Henry Miller (Topic of Cancer was my fav, and I remember him dying in 1980), but it did send me to find out more about Anais Nin. I knew there were these women in his life, but when you are 13 or 14 years old reading Henry Miller, you don't catch a lot of the story lines. In fact you end up reading the same section over and over.(sad isn't it) Made me think I need to reread his novels again. ROB ------------------------------ From: satnin@netcom.com (Dreams from Graceland) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #272 Me again.. :) Had to respond to Anand's message about Jewel at the 9:30 club in D.C.. The show as usual was great! And I saw the show that she opened for Edwin McCain (he is great too, btw). She did not od the Dolores story, and come to think of it, she didn't do the story at the show with Duncan Sheik either. i happen to really enjoy that story, I find it very funny, and yes I do like the Cranberries. I just have a sense of humor too :) Kelley satnin@netcom.com ------------------------------ From: jasegedy@unccvx.uncc.edu (jason segedy) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:17:51 -0400 Subject: Anais Nin Actually, If I'm not mistaken, Ms. (or should I say Mms.) Nin was French, not American. Cheers. "Why's it gotta be so complicated/Why you gotta tell me if I'm hated." - -J.K. Jason ------------------------------ From: PDeSanti@lmumail.lmu.edu Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:13:24 -0700 Subject: Java Joe's Shows To whom may help me in my quest, I was just wondering for people there the 2nd night or even both nights if Jewel's Mom sang at all on the 2nd night. If the 2nd show was busted about 40 minutes in and she eventually set up to play unplugged outside (is this correct?) probably 20 minutes later, Jewel was probably not in the mood to have her mom sing with her in the parking lot with all the extraneous noise of cars and other things. Take care all. Paul ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:37:17 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Anais Nin Bio ANA=EFS NIN (1903 - 1977) Short Biography=20 Anais was born in Neuilly, just outside Paris. She spent her childhood in various parts of Europe until, when she was eleven, her father, Spanish composer Joaquin Nin, abandoned his family and left for America; in the same year, her French-Danish mother, Rosa Culmell, took Anais and her two sons to New York where Anais began to write her journals. In 1923 she married Hugo Guiler. =20 She remained in America for 12 years before returning to Paris, where for a while she lived in a houseboat on the Seine. Having worked from the age of fifteen as a model and dancer, then as a teacher and lecturer, she later became a practising psychoanalyst under Otto Rank. In Paris she and Hugo supported various avant-garde artists, among them Henry Miller with whom Anais started a hot affair and exchanged hundreds of letters. =20 Anais moved back to New York just before the outbreak of World War II. She divided her life between New York and Los Angeles, between Hugo and Rupert, a much younger lover and friend. From being a cult figure of the early feminist movement, Anais later rose to international prominence with her writing. She is best known for her diaries but also produced a number of novels and a prose poem in surrealistic style. Characterized by the use of powerful and, at times, disquieting imagery, her work reveals great sensitivity and perception. =20 In 1973 she received an honorary doctorate from Philadelphia College of Art. She was elected to the National Institute of Arts and Letters in 1974. ------------------------------ From: ho@his.com (heidi) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:50:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Musicians, hair and Jewel? > > Good question. Like James, I think it might depend on what you call a >musician. I have been "puttering" around with various things--guitar(8yrs), >bass(4yrs), an oud(2yrs), and a dulcimer(1yr). > >As far as hair(!), age and everything else-- >I am male, just turned 26(yikes!), have waist-length hair and am a graduate >student at UCLA. I study wolves. > >How 'bout the rest of you? > >Waiting With Bated Breath, >Siamak The DULCIMER? Ahhhhh! (i faint!) =) Heidi ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 13:11:29 EST Subject: I'm Back! Ok! As if anyone really cared, I've been out since Tuesday with a horrible cold. I slept about 20 hours wednesday alone and started getting better Thursday. I'm nearly normal now. :) Since everyone is telling a little (and in some cases a lot) about themselves, I may as well too. Still not sure if anyone cares. But thanks to Rafa for asking for this info. I for one find it very interesting. I'm 26 years old, 27 August 19. I'm a graduate of Miami University in Oxford, Ohio with a bachelors degree in Systems Analysis. I'm now employed at the same university as a programmer/analyst. I have red hair which is good if you're a girl but sucks if, like me, you're a guy. I'm currently in search of the woman whom I should marry, though I'm having no luck. :) I'm also currently in search of a house to purchase. Oh, you don't care about that. I drink on weekends, but only enough to get rid of my normal intense shyness so I can actually go onto the dance floors. I have never and as far as I know will never partake of an illegal substance, including pot. This bit of my personallity is so ingrained as to have been completely bombed on alcohol (stupid, eh?) and still violently opposed people who attempted to... shall I say force me to smoke some. I do smoke cigars, preferably Swisher Sweets with wood tip (yeah, cheap) and I like cigarettes only when drinking. Weird, though I know several people the same way. Must be a social thing. If you're at all interested, I'm a tip of the right wing conservative, though I have friends all over the political spectrum. While I'm not extremely religious, I do believe in God, Jesus, the Bible and all that stuff. I have just became to cynical about organized religions and each of their beliefs that they are the only true religion of God and all others will perish in the pits of hell. I prefer to make my own decisions based on the bible. Hmmm... just realized that I'm throwing out a bunch of crap people probably don't want to hear/read. Must be the effects of the cold and cold medicine. Guess I should stop before I cause people to flood me with flames about my non-Jewel content, telling about myself post. BTW: Anyone who is going to JewelStock and might consider swinging by the Cincinnati area to pick me up... PLEASE E-MAIL ME. I'd love to go, but I'm afraid my "ready for the junk heap" '82 firebird wouldn't agree to such a long trip. I'd be happy to pay for all the gas from here to there and back. While I'm ranting, I love this list for two basic reasons. 1. All the Jewel content (duh). 2. The wonderfully diverse group of people. Later all, Dean Harris, who is in a cold induced trance like state. Who needs drugs when we have so many wonderful viruses floating around? :) ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #276 ***************************