From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #239 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 3 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 239 Today's Subjects: ----------------- T-Shirt Web Page Jewel's Band LTD: Just So Happens LTD: I Don't Care LTD: Walk Away [Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown] Walk Away Corrections %#&! T-Shirts plea Rare Angels/t-shirt idea-ripping throu wings-how many like it? Re: T-Shirts plea Re: T-Shirts plea To: jewel@smoe.org bootlegs.... Tonight Show???? tour dates? The Frisbee Fiasco T- shirts ( i got an idea) Poor Jewel! Re: The Frisbee Fiasco entertainment weekly and other stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pjk@cybercom.net (Philip J. Kelnhofer) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:39:07 -0400 Subject: T-Shirt Web Page I have web space, but so far have had nothing to put there. If people want they can send t-shirt ideas to me at pjk@cybercom.net I will put them up on a web page and post the address as soon as it is up. Then we can decide what we like and go from there. I have sent a private email to the person who originally offered to have the shirts made (but I can recall his address right, now). So if you have an logo/design idea/pictures you would like to be on the shirt get it in GIF or JPEG format and send it to pjk@cybercom.net don't worry about size I check my mail oftne and have had over 5megs of mail waiting for me at different times. pjk ps. We definitely have to get a shirt to Jewel when we get them made - -- "I weep for the death of the spirit and the soul." - Tom Servo ------------------------------ From: pjk@cybercom.net (Philip J. Kelnhofer) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:41:48 -0400 Subject: Jewel's Band I am sorry if this has been brought up before, but is it true that the band was basically put together for Jewel by Atlantic? I was just wondering because to me that shows a real commitment to Jewel by Atlantic. pjk - -- "I weep for the death of the spirit and the soul." - Tom Servo ------------------------------ From: Jason Chung Szeto Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LTD: Just So Happens Just So Happens by Jewel Kilcher Just so happens that I=92m tired of your face Just so happens that I=92m tired of this place Just so happens that I can not endure The pain and the suffering that=92s caused when I touch you anymore Just so happens that I=92m tired of this song Cuz everything I ever tried to do just came out wrong And every honest thing I ever tried to do Was turned to pain and misery when laid before the godly feet of you [chorus] There=92s no words left to say Cuz all the words between us have already gone away It just so happens that my flesh is turning pale And pieces of me are disappearing as though my hands were whales And it just so happens beauty, you could never recognize And I simply faded away, before your eyes Just so happens that these last two years Been a completely meaningless waste of my tears And if I had a toothpick for every vow you made I=92d build a boat of your promises, and I=92d sail away *chorus Just so happens it=92d take a swift kick to the heart To make you take back everything that you said Just so happens that we stuck around too long We should have abandoned ship, rather than go down with it, now it=92s gone Just so happens that I hate your mother-in-law And I hate your dog, Henry, I=92d like to fondle him with a saw Just so happens that I=92m walking out the door And p.s., and by the way, I don=92t love you anymore There=92s no words left to say Cuz all the words between us have already gone, they=92ve already gone they=92ve already gone away ------------------------------ From: Jason Chung Szeto Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LTD: I Don't Care I Don=92t Care by Jewel Kilcher Good-bye baby, I don=92t think I=92ll be seeing you again Good-bye baby, we=92ll say that we=92re still friends Even though I know I love nobody else And even though I know, I say to myself That this time I=92m leaving and I now that we=92re through and I don=92t l= ove you And that I just don=92t care I=92m just so tired of being another statistic on TV The classic case of I love him, but he just don=92t love me So this time I=92m going to be the one to say it=92s the end This time I=92m gonna be my own best friend And I=92m going to save some love, some love for myself I=92ll (kiss you all serious in hell)??? And that I just don=92t care I don=92t care So many times, I tried to tell myself That this love would work, if I just gave up some more love for myself I believed if I just quite my crying, you=92d start your trying, leave your= lying But I believe if I just walked away, I could say I don=92t care don=92t care You were always the cool one, you stood by the backdoor You said "you know, leaving sorta makes you look good" But this time I swear it=92s the best you=92ll ever see of me So this time I=92m going to be the one to say it=92s the end This time I=92m gonna be my own best friend And I=92m going to save some love, some love for myself I=92ll (kiss you all serious in hell)??? And that I just don=92t care I don=92t care So many times, I tried to tell myself That this love would work, if I just gave up some more love for myself I believed if I just quite my crying, you=92d start your trying, leave your= lying But I believe if I just walked away, I could say I don=92t care don=92t care *skat over two-line verse and refrain So good-bye baby, I don=92t think I=92ll be seeing you again ------------------------------ From: Jason Chung Szeto Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: LTD: Walk Away Walk Away by Jewel Kilcher Don=92t say I love you, I won=92t say that I care I=92ll pretend I never kissed you, or held you, or worshipped you, I=92ll s= wear I=92ll live in denial for as long as I live Cuz (one of us??) baby, this love just can=92t give We have to walk away We have to walk away I=92ll try not to sing, you=92ll try not to talk with those lips We=92ll forget all the sweet memories, and I=92ll just call you for (lifts?= ) Cuz this love ain=92t loving, and I don=92t know why But anything that stands so still can=92t be alive We have to walk away We have to walk away [refrain] But there were times our love was, so sweet And it=92s then that makes me want to make it last But you can=92t make love work, anymore than you can make it leave And it=92s then you gotta leave it yourself [refrain2] Cuz when love ain=92t loving but still ain=92t leaving It=92s then you gotta leave it yourself Now jealousy can ride your heart like a sick kind of pony and envy=92s just= the same And your loneliness can consume you no matter how much love you had And when it all boils down, baby, there=92s no other way And I can=92t much more than to make you stay We have to walk away We have to walk away So at night, when darkness fills me, I=92ll pretend you never spoke my name When I=92m sitting home that lonely, I=92ll pretend you=92re home and lonel= y, (or just the same?) And I=92ll pretend this sorrow, this sorrow will pass And I=92ll try to pretend that this loneliness won=92t last And that I=92ll walk away yeah, yeah, yeah *refrain repeat *refrain2 repeat So don=92t say So don=92t say I love you I won=92t say that I care ------------------------------ From: schoon@thor.pla-net.net Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 14:08:35 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown] Return-Path: Received: by thor (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AB02309; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:54:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:54:39 -0500 From: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <9606031854.AB02309@thor> To: Content-Type: text ----- Transcript of session follows ----- <<< HELO ibmcusto <<< MAIL FROM: <<< RCPT TO: <<< RCPT TO: <<< DATA 421 Host smoe.com not found for mailer ddn. 550 ... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: from ibmcusto (venus9.ts.pla-net.net) by thor (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02307; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:54:39 -0500 Errors-To: Message-Id: <31B334A2.7880@pla-net.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 13:53:22 -0500 From: schoon@pla-net.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jewel@smoe.com Cc: schoon@pla-net.net Subject: Jewel vs. Delores Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Once again, people are overstepping their bounds as far as being fans and being elitists. So Jewel poked a little fun at the Canberries' singer. Just now, after over a year of her doing so, some Cranberries fans on their list have begun Jewel-bashing? After admitting that they've never actually heard Jewel? Are they feeling for Delores or making themselves look like victims? Is this going to be another battle between fans? Just relax everybody! If you like Jewel, then listen to her and show her support. If you like the Cranberries, listen to them. Or if you're like me, listen to both. But let's not go to "war" just because Jewel recognizes her competition. And for God's sake, not to look "cool". If anyone knows the address to forward this message to the Cranberries list, please let me know. I'd like to pass it along them. Thanks, Mike ------------------------------ From: Silver Kat Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 15:27:33 +0000 Subject: Walk Away Corrections Here are my corrections... (this is my favourite song =3D) =20 Walk Away =20 by Jewel Kilcher =20 Don=92t say I love you, I won=92t say that I care I=92ll pretend I never kissed you, or held you, or worshipped you I swear=20 I=92ll live in denial for as long as I live Cuz *what I need baby, this love just can=92t give We have to walk away We have to walk away =20 I=92ll try not to sing, you=92ll try not to talk with those lips We=92ll forget all the sweet memories, and now we'll just go with what i= s Cuz this love ain=92t loving, and I don=92t know why But anything that stands so still can=92t be alive We have to walk away We have to walk away =20 [refrain] But there were times our love was, so sweet And it=92s *memory that makes me want to make it last But you can=92t make love work, anymore than you can make it leave And it=92s then you gotta leave it yourself [refrain2] Cuz when love ain=92t loving but still ain=92t leaving It=92s then you gotta leave it yourself =20 Now jealousy can ride your heart like a sick kind of pony=20 And envy=92s just the same And your loneliness can consume you no matter how much love you had And when it all boils down, baby, there=92s no other way And I *care much more than to make you stay We have to walk away We have to walk away =20 So at night, when darkness fills me,=20 I=92ll pretend you never spoke my name When I=92m sitting home that lonely,=20 I=92ll pretend you=92re home and lonely, oh just the same=20 And I=92ll pretend this sorrow, this sorrow will pass And I=92ll try to pretend that this loneliness won=92t last And that I=92ll walk away yeah, yeah, yeah =20 refrain repeat refrain2 repeat =20 So don=92t say So don=92t say I love you I won=92t say that I care ------------------------------ From: Sabra Richardson Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:31:16 -0600 (MDT) Subject: %#&! Hello all: This is sort of a final statement regarding my little discussion about vulgarity. I think the most interesting thing that happened was that those who were in support of my statement e-mailed me personally to say they agreed and those who were against my statement or thought it was "no big deal" sent their opinion to the list. I hope everyone feels comfortable enough to give an opinion without fearing rejection from others, particularly in this group. Conservative views seem to be taboo elsewhere on the internet. But as those of you who corresponded with me have proven, healthy debate is enlightening and refreshing! We can agree to disgree and it's OK. There are open minds galore in the Jewel Kingdom. :) Thanks to all who wrote me, I learned a lot. sabra - -----------------s a b r a r i c h a r d s o n b e d d e s----------------- ------------------------------ From: Skybug19@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:44:07 -0400 Subject: T-Shirts plea could we PLEASE make the t's lime green? i just feel that's jewel's color! ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 16:49:31 +0600 Subject: Rare Angels/t-shirt idea-ripping throu wings-how many like it? yeah!!! little me is sooooo happy!! thank thank you Neile for making me a copy great mix of songs heck (hey I'm in a great mood) great songs now I know what all of you are talking about when you mention Jessica and Nikos new fav.--Flower/Down at the Bridge if you only have the CD-POY you NEED to check out the bootlegs Its as if she already has half-a-dozen albums under her rainbow belt pea-green shirts aaahhhh...I don't know about that though I would rather our shirts not be black or white though a white one with a life size wrap around big-blue might look neat and with several kmart stick on tattoos up the arms or how about on the back big angel's wings coming out of the shirt (looks like their ripping through) at the shoulder-blades, the list address below them, and some kind of logo on the front Robb [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] You can't talk to a phsyco like a normal human being -- Poe (the female type musician) ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 03 Jun 96 15:52:39 EST Subject: Re: T-Shirts plea On Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:44:07 -0400 you said: >could we PLEASE make the t's lime green? >i just feel that's jewel's color! NO!!! Lime green is a color somebody like... say... Jenny McCarthy would wear. You know, the bubbling blond type. :) Maybe a jade green. Is that a color? You know, the color of Emerald City in the Wizrd of Oz. Maybe it should be called emerald green. Hey!! that ties in with Jewel anyway. She was Dorothy in WOZ. Dean ------------------------------ From: The P-Funk Goddess Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: T-Shirts plea I like the lime green idea too plus 1)it would be easy to spot others with the t-shirt in any large gathering 2)lime green conceals dirt and grime a lot better than white 3)I like to look like fuits and vegetables in my daily attire =) SO I officially state that Sydney F. Lewis seconds the lime green motion =) *sydney ------------------------------ From: rda530@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:59:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: To: jewel@smoe.org unsuscribe rdaudani@nwu.edu ------------------------------ From: Ed Hodgin Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: bootlegs.... After reading Piglet's e-mail, I am even more determined to get some bootlegs. Somebody, anybody, please help me get some (huh, huh, he said "get some"). ed ------------------------------ From: "Brett M. Eskin" Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Tonight Show???? HELP!!!! Is it the tonight show she will be on or the late show with Letterman? Is it TUesday or Monday????? ANswer please.. - --Brett ------------------------------ From: Simbop@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:48:40 -0400 Subject: tour dates? Could someone people send me some of Jewel's tour dates? My computer stalls every time i try to get on a web page. Rob ------------------------------ From: Mike Connell Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 18:09:32 -0400 Subject: The Frisbee Fiasco Angels, Well, I was on mt way to work this morning, listening to one of the only stations in this small town of mine (Binghamton NY) that plays WWSYS. Anyway, it came on and about 40 seconds into the song, there was this "whooosh" sound effect, then a "smack" sound effect and the song screached to a halt. The DJ then said "Hey....who.....who threw that frisbee?.......Goodbye!" and then played another song by whom I do not remember. I was SO LIVID I almost wrecked my truck. I got to work, stormed by my co-workers, called the a**hole up and "nicely" then gave him a piece of my mind, telling him about how she was sick, 4 days off the last month, pretty much on the "wrong stage" (in front of a bunch of drunk hard rockers) for her type of music, people yelling/giving her shit and that I do not blame her one stinking bit for what she did. I told him I was in fact proud of her for walking off, sorry for the Jewel fans that traveled there, but if I were one of them, the moment I realized what was the reason, I would've been OK with it. I just hope to God that she realizes that we all support her in this and that she can just blow it off without being too "hurt" by it. Mike ------------------------------ From: ANGEL GALINANES <75271.2740@CompuServe.COM> Date: 03 Jun 96 18:54:28 EDT Subject: T- shirts ( i got an idea) Hello , angels: I got an idea. A green t-shirt would be cool , but it would even be cooler if you put in the collar and at the end of the sleeves a whita collar. I don't know what you call those neat lines in english , but they look cool. I got a couple of t-shirts like that and they look as one that Jewel might even wear for a concert. I like green , it's very lively and youthful. I really don't care for a specific color or design , but please take my white colored collar sleeves and collar into consideration. If you don't understand what the hell I'm talking about , contact me and I'll try to clarify the type of design I mean ( I think a lot of skaters t-shirts are using the collar and sleeves stuff I'm talking about). until then my friends: Rafa ------------------------------ From: MEFAN22@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:07:45 -0400 Subject: Poor Jewel! Hi everyone. I haven't been online in a few days due to exams that I should be studying for right now. I had to get on because I heard " Jewel" and "frisbee" on the radio in the car. Poor poor Jewel. She is such a trooper! I am happy to say that the picture from Rolling Stone is nicely situated on my ceiling!! I love the shirt idea!!!! I agree that we should vote on a design. Maybe Jewel herself would like to submit one!!! I hope she feels better soon. Maybe then she could make a surprise appearance in Toledo and stay at my house!!!! Well if I want to pass 9th grade I better start studying!!!! Good luck to all who are taking exams and Get well soon to everyone who is sick...especially Jewel! -Liz ------------------------------ From: Ed Hodgin Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: The Frisbee Fiasco This may be the e-mail that gets me ostracized from the jewel community, but I have to say it: I think what that DJ did is kind of funny. Now before you start fuming and writing me back telling me how insensitive I am, let me speak my mind. When I heard about the whole WHFS fiasco, I was pretty upset myself. And after I heard about everything that happened to Jewel leading up to the gig, I felt even worse. I am a big fan of Jewel, and I hope she never has to go through that again. But, what's done is done. I am a firm believer that we need to laugh at ourselves (or those we admire), or we will become grumpy old people. Please don't try to put words in my mouth. I'm not saying Jewel should be constantly humiliated for this incident. But, cut the DJ some slack. He made a joke, pure and simple. Laugh (or don't laugh) and let it go. ed ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 16:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: entertainment weekly and other stuff EW #330 for the day of June 7 with Julianna Marguiles (sp) on th cover has a bit about Jewel in the News Notes section. The bit is titles Real Gems it tells about how Jewel has done songs for the crossing guard, the craft, and Andy Warhol and how she "could supplant Bryan Adams as Hollywood's fave balladeer" Not much of an article but still nice to mention her. I forgot to say last Sunday that Jewel was on "On the Edge" with Tom Calderone last week, which is a syndicated radio show that lasts an hour and usually has three guest music acts (modern rock people who pass through the studios before the show airs. It is all prerecorded talk segments nicely intertwined with cuts from albums) with the last group playing a live recorded cut. Jewel was the second guest, so she didn't play anything, but she did talk about some stuff and that was nice. I hope that the Westwood one concert thingy this week is the Jewel concert. A radio station around here broadcasts concerts on Mondays from Westwood One and she hasn't been on the past two weeks. And finally. My greatest fears have been confirmed or realized. Actually, my worst fears are of being inexorably tortured for a long continuous time. But my great fears for Jewel voiced previously on this list have come true. She's sick and has been sick while touring and playing. Poor tyke hasn't been taking care of herself just to please her audience. Sigh. she should rest. And the HFStival fiasco. She prolly wanted to do that 60,000 people-singing-faggot and lighter thing with POY that she dreams of. And those unruly kids ruined it. I feared her playing the mainstage and bad things happened. oy. boy oh boy, now to finish moving all my crap into my car so that I can move from my current dorm to my summer housing dorm. Paul "baseball. it's fantastic and I'm an American." Kim ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #239 ***************************