From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #210 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 20 May 1996 Volume 01 : Number 210 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jewel in Paradise (long) Part One Rare and Radio Angels DESPERATE for WHFS tix! goodbye for now... incorrect tour info Yodeling More about the Paradise More about the Paradise -Reply Yodeling -Reply Today's NY Times Re: Yodeling Re: Yodeling Fanzine Emily Dickenson Fragile FLame lyrics Re: jewel-digest V1 #206 Jewel GAY?? Phila. show IronHorse/Boston radio? Rainbow Found Save The Linoleum ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Winchenbach" Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 00:10:39 +0000 Subject: Jewel in Paradise (long) Part One Well, we've heard from a lot of people at the Paradise, but let me give my rendition for all those people who can't make it to a show. The plan was for us list members to meet at The Paradise early, and then head over to Borders for her performance there. Some of us (me included) were late though, so we ended up in several groups. However, due to the Dennis' Everyday Angels sign, we were able to meet up at the bookstore. these signs are a good idea, we should all adopt them as a concert norm. I'm dissapointed that we missed out on some other list members who were apparently at the show. Anyway, Jewel came out and sang 5 or 6 songs at Borders. Off the top of my head I think they were Don't, Near You Always, Who Will Save Your Soul, Sometimes It Be That Way.....? As said, she was then supposed to sign things, so we were in line, waiting to get some signatures plus give her our birthday gifts. However we got tricked, when we got up to the table we discovered that she was no longer even there, they were passing out cd booklets that she had already signed. We were discouraged at that, and ready to leave. However one of the people at the table gave a stack of booklets to some roadie guy, with a pen, and said that she needed those signed. Obviously, Jewel was still around. So I followed this guy, who went into some unmarked door. We all then gathered around that door, and our schmoozer of the evening Dennis tried to get in to give her our presents. But she was beat, and sleeping. So we left the presents, along with one of our signs, in hopes that she would see us after the show. Another crosstown voyage brought us back to the Paradise in time to see a line down the block. But that didn't matter too much, because the way the club is designed, it's impossible to not be by the stage! So I was psyched about that. There were about 7 of us list members together, plus some assorted friends. I was still looking for Paul though, but we didn't find him until after the show. Thus ends Part One, look for Part Two in a following message.... ---------K e n---------- <> walden@nh.ultranet.com http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~wink/ "You must live as you think, or sooner or later you will think as you live." ------------------------------ From: "Colin J. Stuckless" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 13:25:23 -0230 Subject: Rare and Radio Angels I just wanted to let everyone know that I am still processing requests for Rare Angels and Radio Angels and have about a week and a half's worth of messages which I am in the process of responding to. If you don't receive a reponse from me within the next two days, then feel free to mail me again as it is possible that some could get lost in the shuffle. Due to the size of the mailing list I'd ask for everyone to appreciate the fact that the requests for these two tapes are well into the hundreds, and it does take time to respond - I was out of town for a week on vacation at the beginning of the month, but I had someone take care of the requests for me while I was gone - I hope that went smoothly. Also, the unfortunate passing of my grandmother last week caused me to be away from my email for several days. I'd also like to ask that people send seperate messages for Rare Angels requests and Radio Angels requests. I'm getting many messages which say people want both, or that they want all three (the third being Innerchange, which I don't handle) - this really slows things down as I sort the incoming mesages into seperate "Rare Angels" and "Radio Angels" folders. Replies to the messages which assign you a dubbing site are not necesary and actually I'd rather you not reply unless there is a problem of some sort. I haven't even been able to catch up on the digests lately, but I did notice a couple of people publically inquiring about the tapes, so I thought this message was in order. Take care, - -- Colin Stuckless colins@cs.mun.ca Memorial University of Newfoundland ------------------------------ From: K8tMae@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 13:16:44 -0400 Subject: DESPERATE for WHFS tix! Hey folks, Hope that everyone is enjoying their summer. Mine will be a lot better once I find some tickets to the WHFS fest. I left getting tickets up to a mutual friend, and she didn't get them. Thus, I am in desperate need of tickets. I would love to see her again--as well as Guided By Voices (both sideline acts). If ANYONE has any extras, or knows someone who can't go or has extras, my friend and I will pay up to $30 for each ticket. I know that this can be classified as scalping, but we really want to go! PLEASE HELP ME!!! Thank you. :) I will spin Save The Linoleum for you too. desperate, Katie ------------------------------ From: turtle Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 14:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: goodbye for now... it pains me to have to do this, but i must leave the "land of the listers" for the summer... i hope that everyone has a wonderful summer, and remember why we're on this list. see you all in the fall! jewelfully yours, -matt "Doesn't take much to rip us into pieces..." - Tori Amos ------------------------------ From: JPhipps207@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 14:27:18 -0400 Subject: incorrect tour info Just wanted to let everyone know that Jewel will NOT be playing at the Grove in Raleigh on the 30th. She is scheduled to play at The Abyss in Virginia Beach on this date. tickets are somewhere between 6 and 9 dollars and are available through ticketmaster. ------------------------------ From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 20:18:49 GMT Subject: Yodeling I was just wondering: Has anyone been to a Jewel concert (post-Inner Change days) where Jewel did not yodel? Lately it seems that "Chime Bells" has become mechanical and not the least bit enjoyable to Jewel, as opposed to the first time I saw her yodel when she really seemed into it. I wouldn't mind going to a concert where Jewel didn't yodel, just so she doesn't feel that she needs to do so for the fans to enjoy the show. Maybe I'll bring a sign along next time saying, "Everyday Angels! Please don't Yodel, Jewel!!" Don't get me wrong though, I still love to hear her let it fly, I just don't think she has to do so for the concert to be a complete and in fact there are several songs that I haven't heard her sing live that I would rather hear in place of "Chime Bells" for the hundredth time. Later! ------------------------------ From: pjk@cybercom.net (pjk) Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:19:51 -0400 Subject: More about the Paradise I didn't even think of looking for other people on the list at the show. Pretty dumb, huh. So I am sorry I missed you all. Maybe next time. But, one big thing I have to get off my chest. I was really get pissed at the people who talked and yelled throughout the show mostly at the most in appropriate moments. My friend didn't want to bother getting there early :( so by the time I showed I was forced to go upstairs (where I did manage to get up to the front of the balcony which was great viewing. However, people behind me talked literally throughout the show. Twice I personally asked them to quiet down they just looked at me funny. I was directly above the kid who Jewel flipped off when we kept yelling while she was telling a story. I wanted to just go hit him (I was getting angry with people at that point). I think what I am getting at is despite the popularity I think a lot of people don't get it. I think a lot of people where there one for the looks and two because the figured it was on 'BCN it must be cool. I don't if there are any other Mr. Bungle fans on this list (my taste are quite eclectic), but Mike Patton wrote a great song about the phenomena that despite all their yelling and cheering he feels like his is singing to himself and no one is listening. As some one else mentioned she looked bored when yodeling, maybe she should put it one the next album and forget about it (Although, I was glad I got to hear it). pjk - -- "No one is listening, Yet ears are ringing." - Mike Patton from _Slowly_Growing_Deaf_ ------------------------------ From: Brian Mendonca Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:54:22 -0400 Subject: More about the Paradise -Reply >>> pjk 05/20/96 03:19pm >>> >>But, one big thing I have to get off my chest. I was really >>get pissed at the people who talked and yelled throughout >>the show mostly at the most in appropriate moments. While I am new to this list and only recently started listening to Jewel, I can give you some sad advice regarding the above post: get used to it. My two favorite bands are Cowboy Junkies and Dave Matthews Band. Going to their concerts, especially the Junkies, is always heart-wrenching, since the unbelieveable beauty of the music is so often marred by people who are there to hear one or two particular songs. These people talk throughout the concert (especially during beautiful, slow songs), scream and yell during between-song stories and generally annoy the hell out of me. The only way to avoid these people (assuming you're at a general admission show), is to try to get to the show as early as possible so you can be against the stage with other people who are as into the band as you are. - --Brian ------------------------------ From: Brian Mendonca Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 16:01:03 -0400 Subject: Yodeling -Reply Sorry for the multiple posts, but I had to mention this. I saw about fifteen minutes of Jewel opening up for Dave Matthews on Dec. 5, '95. While I didn't know anything about her then (and, I should add ashamedly, was one of those rude people that talked during what I thought of then as an opening act), I'll never forget what she did for the yodelling portion of the night. She brought four audience members on stage and told them to dance to the song she was going to play. Obviously, as the yodelling got faster and faster, the kids were about to pass out, and all gave up (except for one). Anyway, it was hilarious, and Jewel seemed to enjoy it. I agree with what everyone else has said thus far -- she really, really speeds through Chime Bells now and seems unhappy about doing it in the first place. - --Brian ------------------------------ From: Linus Gelber Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 16:28:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Today's NY Times A small review in the New York Times today (Monday 20 May 1996) p. C12: A YOUNG SONGWRITER OF MANY VOICES - Jewel, Irving Plaza Jewel Kilcher, who performed on Thursday night, is a songwriter bursting with talents. Strumming and fingerpicking her acoustic guitar [what else is she supposed to do with it? - LZG], alone or backed by a scrappy folk- rock band, she harked back to the folkies of the 1960's and 70's, although she is in her early 20's. Jewel's voice can be a sultry alto, a clear soprano, a country whoop, a little-girl whisper or a speedy yodel, and her songs are lucid and articulate. With unabashed earnestness, she confesses her desire or preaches lessons in empathy. She can spin out metaphors, tell unadorned stories or come up with choruses like "I'm sensitive and I'd like to stay that way" or "I'll never trust my pink fleshy heart to a carnivore." And she has a giggly, good-natured stage presence: "I love my life!" she said, looking out at the packed club. All she needs is a little time. Jewel hasn't yet found her own voice; in the course of a set, she echoed Rickie Lee Jones, Tracy Chapman, Joni Mitchell, Joan Baez, Dolly Parton, Tom Petty, Bonnie Raitt, Enya, Tammy Wynette, Stevie Nicks and Anita O'Day. Some of her material was written while she was in her teens, and its appealing sincerity arrives with a fledgling songwriter's awkwardness and cliches. And Jewel is still trying out genres, though sometimes with good results, as in a new song that approached the prodigal imagery and wayward humor of mid-60's Bob Dylan. If she can stay sensitive but lose her naivete, she'll come up with songs worthy of her skills. - Jon Pareles Above is, of course, copyright 1996 The New York Times. Ciao - Linus - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Linus Gelber linus@panix.com Brooklyn, N.Y.C. - -o-<< WASTE cyrano@nycbeer.org Peripheral Visionary - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: awalker@macalstr.edu (Aaron Walker) Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:37:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Yodeling I completely agree. While I do like the yodeling, it's become one of the main reasons that people come to see her. I remember an interview with her where she explained why she didn't have Chime Bells on the CD. She didn't want to be known as just "that yodeling chick." Unfortunately, a lot of the recent fans (a lot, not all) seem to just want to come and hear WWSYS and Chime Bells. I can't really think of any good way to tell her "Just yodel if you want to." I think a good display of this is comparing Chime Bells on the Innerchange tapes to recent performances. In the old version, she seemed like she was having a lot of fun, continually speeding up. It seemed like she was actually asking "Should I go faster?" Now, it seems like she just wants to get it over with. Oh well, maybe the people who are solely interested in her because they find the yodelling amusing will move on to some new fad and Jewel will be able to play what she wants again. - -Aaron Walker Email address: awalker@macalstr.edu Home Page: http://www.nebula.net/~lazlo/ ------------------------------ From: teffta@crypt.erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft) Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 17:08:21 -0400 Subject: Re: Yodeling I, for one, would like to hear her yodel live at least once. I guess if she started not doing it at every show, then we would have more excuses to go to more shows. ------------------------------ From: Silver Kat Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 18:11:08 +0000 Subject: Fanzine I would be more than willing to start/help out with the fanzine... I was thinking of doing one in January... But I never got around to it My ideas would be reviews of different shows and pictures from the shows, people's Jewel lists for trading, lots of pics, discography, bio, mag articles... etc... Anyone else interested? I can photocopy for free, which can really help... Let me know Kim "Don't tell me why he's never been there for you... Just let me try and I will be good to you..." ------------------------------ From: Pookie560@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 18:10:46 -0400 Subject: Emily Dickenson Here are some poems by Emily Dickenson that you guys might like. Twas such a little, little boat Thattoddeled down the bay! Twas such a gallent, gallent sea That beckoned it away! Twas such a greedy, greedy wave That licked it from the coast; Nor ever guessed the stately sails My little craft was lost! (Written after the death of Mrs. Browning in 1861) Her "Last Poems" -- Poets ended, Silver perished with her tounge, Not on record bubbled other Flute, or Woman, so divine; Not unto its Summer morning Robin uttered half the tune -- Gushed too free for the adoring, From the Anglo-Florentine. Late the praise -- 'Tis dull conferring On a Head too high to crown, Diadem or Ducal showing, Be ite Grave sufficient sign, Yet if we, no Poet's kinsman, Suffocate with easy woe What and if ourself a Bridegroom, Put Her down, in Italy? It's all I have to bring today This, and my heart beside, This, and my heart, and all the fields, And to the meadows wide. Be sure you count, should I forget, -- Some one the sum could tell, -- This, and my heart, and all the bees Which in the clover dwell. Emily Dickenson is so cool! ------------------------------ From: mpenna@ix.netcom.com (Manoel W. Penna ) Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 15:48:51 -0700 Subject: Fragile FLame lyrics I don't know if everybody has these lyrics yet, so here you go: Fragile Flame By Jewel Kilcher Fat boy goes to the pool sees his reflection, doesn't know what to do He feels little inside filled with pride oh fragile flame no one sees the same Fat boy goes about his day trying to think of funny things to say like this is just a game I play and I like me this way oh fragile flame no one feels the same Hush, sleep don't think, just guess Yuo're momma's little boy you're daddy's pride and joy you know they love but not because they hold you Fat boy says "wouldn't it be nice, if I could mealt myself like ice or outrun my skin just to be pure" oh fragile flame sometimes I feel the same I love this song and think it's absolutely beautiful. I've heard a lot of different renditions of some of these lines so some of them may vary. Any corrections would be welcome. Enjoy, Eric ------------------------------ From: Merchant20@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 18:38:36 -0400 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #206 Candra gasps.."Oh my god. All I can SADLY say to that is I wish I were you for that moment Shakey... All I got was a handshake..." Her girlfriend ..." I should have known...I knew it wasn't my name you were screaming out the other night. Jewel and Tracy just don't sound that similar, but you convinced me otherwise...what a fool I've been!! You were just using me for my body weren't you?? And since I look so much like Jewel...it all makes perfect sense now!!" ------------------------------ From: Kennedy25@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 18:52:47 -0400 Subject: Jewel GAY?? I don't know how much truth there is to this..personally I don't believe it. But a friend told me that Jewel is GAY!! At first I thought she was crazy, but the other night at the DC show she was wearing a rainbow belt and I started to have second thoughts. Can anyone verify this? Kennedy ------------------------------ From: SMartin106@gnn.com () Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 17:05:08 Subject: Phila. show Where to begin? My husband and I got to the door early. Almost immediately we were approached by John, who is on the list and knew us by my description. Emily, also on the list, was in line in front of us. Duncan,(can't remember the last name) I want to say Hines, warmed up and seemed almost apologetic about being there rather than Jewel. His music was nice. He should keep his drummer and replace the other 2 guys. Just my opinion, but I'll bet money that the one member has spent hours and hours in front of the mirror perfecting that cigarette exhale and smokey stare of his. I thought it was funny. Jewel was every bit the entertainer that I thought she would be. I'm glad we were up front because her facial expressions are great. She was beautiful and she really seemed to have fun with her music. Phila. must've been a quiet crowd (go figure-these are Eagles fans??) because she made a comment about how quiet we were. Early on, she asked if anyone had requests, so John instructed that Nicotene Love was the song to ask for. Probably 4 of us yelled for it, and she went right into a spectacular performance of it. I really like that she has no particular set and she was willing to take requests. My husband totally enjoyed her. He sounded surprised when he commented to me that she was really good. I'm still coming down from my natural high. Selena ------------------------------ From: j.mullins1@genie.com Date: Mon, 20 May 96 22:35:00 UTC 0000 Subject: IronHorse/Boston radio? OK, first off, thanks to everyone who emailed me with the answer to my Iron Horse question, it's nice to have such helpful listmates! Secondly, I understand that the Boston show was aired live on the radio Saturday night, I think...anyone tape it off the radio? Thanks, Angels! Shakey (j.mullins1@genie.geis.com) "People ask why I'm chasing a comet's tail I tell them because standing still is like being in jail" ------------------------------ From: bill_mccormack@prodigy.com ( BILL MCCORMACK) Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 18:30:49, -0500 Subject: Rainbow The first song I ever heard Jewel sing was "Somewhere over the rainbow". I think it would be cool if she did it in concert. I agree with everyone else who thinks she should give the yodelling a rest. I love Chime Bells but it's not worth the grief its causing her. -Bill ------------------------------ From: Anthony Amato Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 23:45:23 GMT Subject: Found Save The Linoleum Just found a place that has one more copy of Save The Linoleum. They are selling it for $25. If anyone is interested let me know and i'll pick it up for you and we'll arrange something. Anthony Amato AA@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #210 ***************************