From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #197 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Wednesday, 15 May 1996 Volume 01 : Number 197 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: girlfriends and stuff swirling, pulsating, throbbing... darkness Jewel in Toronto, 5/13/96 House of Style-Prom edition HS Friends of Jewel save the linoleum? Help me record the simulcast! In NYC Thursday Real Audio 2.0 & Net Simmulcast Re: jewel-digest V1 #193 looking for 5/16 tickets still Re: Real Audio 2.0 & Net Simulcast Tape of Toronto show? Phila, and Jewel's old letter to us. Music Categories Jewel Can Sing Frustration can only be excided by hatred Jewel on another compilation odeon in cleveland, last night ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chopped Liver Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 23:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: girlfriends and stuff On Tue, 14 May 1996 ALalas@aol.com wrote: > Choppd liver wrote: > >It would be sad if these people never understood the basis of >her art. > Why? if they still enjoy the music what's the difference? Well, like the ant said in The Once and Future King, "I really like that 'Mammy Mammy Mammy Mammy' song. You know, the one that goes 'Mammy mammy mammy mammy.'" Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ From: dirk albrecht Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 00:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: swirling, pulsating, throbbing... darkness Hi all, My name's dIrk. I've been on this list for almost a year now, and a Jewel fan even longer. Recently, I've read a few posts from those engulfed in the darkness of melancholy. It seems I have now joined them. It seems so, since I spent the last hour sitting on my bed, in darkness, crying. I haven't cried for two years. I think it's time for me to admit that I have inherited my father's depression. Yes, the clinical, neurotransmitter imbalance kind. I am unwilling to admit this, though. I know too much about the disease, and i just don't want it. I am listening to Jewel right now. She represents one of the last hopes I have. That there is something worthwhile in this miserable existence. That there is some beauty; it's not all pain and blackness. Her voice is soothing. I am writing because several of you have responded to the others who have posted. I wish I could read some of those responses. Perhaps, if these notes were kept, a kind soul could forward them to me. I would be grateful. I am not yet ready to give up, but I can't come up with any inspiration on my own. Thanks for listening, guys. Even if no one reads this, writing this has been therapeutic. Or maybe it's just Jewel's sweet voice I hear :) dalbrech@ucsd.edu ------------------------------ From: Steve Ito Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 04:47:40 -0400 Subject: Jewel in Toronto, 5/13/96 Hi folks, I laboriously typed a review of Jewel's Toronto show, only to accidentally delete it. So I'll do a highlights-only post now. I saw Jewel at the new CFNY, uh, "The Edge" studio... They had moved from the Hard Rock Cafe to the new place just the day before. There was barely anyone there... in fact, I went with a bunch of friends (who I dragged to Jewel's first show in Toronto back on March 13 of last year and who are now diehard fans) and the 5 of us made up over half of the walk-in "audience". Unfortunately it was an interview only - she didn't perform any songs. Curiously, although it would have been SO easy to talk to her and get an autograph - easier, in fact than even those early shows that barely anyone attended - I felt no need for any other communication than an exchange of grins. As a side note unrelated to Jewel in any way, following Jewel, they played a Butthole Surfers song, followed by an interview with the Ass Ponies. I hope they weren't going for a theme there... :-) At the Opera House, I ran into some list people - Dan, Dave, and Tom (hi guys!), but unfortunately didn't find James M. At the beginning of the show, Jewel said "I hope your legs don't get tired." What a fitting comment to make. My entire body ached through her whole show... in all, we stood in the same position for a good 5 hours. I guess I'm spoiled, I've never had to stand for a Jewel show before. Partway through the show, they experienced "technical" difficulties and lost light and a few banks of speakers. This prompted Jewel to do a bit of a modern dance routine. :-) I brought a bunch of friends who were totally unfamiliar with her music. They were bowled over by her voice and talent. She was unfortunately having a bad guitar night though, having problems in a number of songs, especially her solo acoustic ones, prompting one of my Jewel-newbie friends (a guitarist) to comment that her voice was INCREDIBLE, but she should stick to rhythm guitar parts and leave the more difficult parts to someone else. I told him Jewel was just having a bad night, but he didn't buy it. What can you do? BTW, about her voice, maybe I'm imagining things, but her vocals have improved noticeably in the year since I saw her last. Anyone else agree? I suppose it's not all that surprising, she's really young and still very much in development as an artist. Oh, almost forgot - Tom asked for "Under the Water" from the Craft soundtrack, and Jewel had NO IDEA what he was talking about. Even after he said "The dance one", she had to think about it for a few seconds before a huge wave of realization swept across her face. "What's 'Under the Water?' Dance one... ... Ohmygod... (singing) Under the Water! Woohoo! How'd you hear that? I wrote a dance track. Pretty funny, huh? Shit. [laughter from the crowd] I was doing an interview the other day and she said 'Jewel you're sweet as an angel but you talk like a trucker.'" :-) Anyone else think that Jewel sounds like Juliana Hatfield when during parts of "Marital Carnival"? Selena typed... >yesterday!! That's an hour from me. I've got tickets to a show that >holds only 700 people!! Now arent you "old-timers" just a bit >jealous of me to be seeing her through my brand spanking new baby >eyes? I have never heard anyone like her and I DO appreciate her *ONLY* 700 people? I hope you're trying to be ironic... The first time I saw Jewel, I don't think there were more than 30 people in the room, and most of them were music-industry and record label types. Thanks to Neal and Jeff, I had a jump on just about everyone in Toronto. But I AM a little jealous. At Jewel's shows, I love watching the reactions of people who have obviously never seen her before, especially during "Chime Bells." Personal guards drop, inhibitions melt away like ice under a blazing sun, and ridiculous grins or jaws hanging open in shock and amazement accompany looks of starry wonder and discovery shining in virgin eyes. I caught a couple of such looks yesterday, and also heard a few gasps of surprise. I *still* love Chime Bells as much as anyone else, but the magic of the first time is lost forever. I *do* envy you, and I hope you enjoy your first Jewel show as much as I did mine. Steve P.S. almost forgot - Jewel appeared on the Dini Petty show, where she played WWSYS. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ito, | "Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who Psychology Dept. | says differently is selling something." University of Toronto | -- The Dread Pirate Roberts Toronto, ON, Can. | ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 03:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: House of Style-Prom edition Just saw an ad on MTV, since it's background radiation, for House of Style-Prom Edition airing Monday. I think the time was 3 or 7 or something like that. Right before (or after) Singled Out-Prom Edition. I looked at the MTV page, but the schedule wasn't up for next week. This is the one Jewel was supposed to be taping. I assume she did and that she'll be there. (Didn't notice any clips of her, but it is background noise--looked up when they said HoS-Prom) Anyone else with better info? [scat-singing to end] Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us jewel/kristin\tanya/lush\happy/catherine\tori/stereolab\milla mary\massiveattack/bob\heather/juliana\dandys/orb\drunkenboat "Stories of rags to riches leave me in stitches and with a thread that's hard to follow" -Trash Can Sinatras ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 06:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: HS Friends of Jewel Hi, Obsessed? Ever looked for Jewel's High School Friends on the net at 4:00 am? What i found, although not sure they're the same people: http://euphony.com/euphony/articles/54/Unforgettable/Unforgettable-GP.html Marie Beer, who is shown in one of the yearbook shots play guitar with Jewel (pic #4) I bet it's her. Take a look. A joke page: Josh Leonard on Thu Nov 16 16:49:06 PST 1995 : How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? Answer: Only one, but the light bulb has to WANT to change. Did you hear that O.J. is going to get married now that he is off the hook? I guess he decided that he wanted to take another stab at it!! Why did the chicken cross the road? WHO CARES??!! Let's hope Josh isn't an aspiring comedian... but wait, that light bulb joke got #4 in some best of 95 contest.... he MUST know Jewel with that kind of luck! ;) (tee hee just kidding, really) Hope you got a kick out of that, James _________________________________________________________________________ juddjam@eng.auburn.edu http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Computer Science Grad Student Network Services Web/Lab Guy ------------------------------ From: "Geoffrey M Wyatt" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: save the linoleum? hey does any one know any quick tricks to find a copy of save the linoleum? geoff ps. i would like to get an original if possible, although i know there are people willing to tape it... ------------------------------ From: kelbyl@grt.kyushu-u.ac.jp (leow,kelby) Date: Wed, 15 May 96 18:14:49 JST Subject: Help me record the simulcast! Ok, so I hear about this simulcast thing and I'm thinking, hey, I really want to record this. I'm also planning to buy a mini-disc recorder (MD) while I'm here in Japan. I figure that the only way to record this concert is if I attempt to hook up the MD player to the computer since I can only use the computers in school and I would have a hell of a time carrying a stereo here. Does anyone out there know if this is feasible? I don't even know if MD recorders are legal in the states but if anyone out there knows, I'd really appreciate a reply, preferably in private. Kelby ------------------------------ From: JenniferY@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:40:34 -0400 Subject: In NYC Thursday Is anyone going to this show? Also, is it sold out? I'd like to go but don't know anyone that likes her so if anyone is going to the show, email me! Maybe we can meet up (if there are tickets still available) Jen ------------------------------ From: "J.A.K.E." <1AESCHJA@mystic.slcc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:51:27 MST Subject: Real Audio 2.0 & Net Simmulcast I experienced the Tori Amos - Atlantic Records Digital Arena thing Monday and it was really neat. I'm looking forward to Jewel's netcast tommorrow. (8pm EST at http://www.atlantic-records.com/DigitalArena) First of all, Real Audio doesn't sound too bad, definitely not hi-fi but is good enough for a net experience like this. I had headphones plugged into the Soundblaster speaker output and it worked well. I would have liked to used speakers but it was a school computer lab. I don't have any idea why they even have Soundblaster cards in the computers if they don't use speakers with them. Of course it's a good thing they have soundcards, in fact you can't even install Real Audio without a sound driver loaded. Now there was video too but it came up slow and jerky but still it was cool. To view it best, right click on the small video window and choose and it will come up bigger in a new page. Just remember to reload the video every couple seconds when it freezes so you have updated video. It was cool when Tori was explaining how much dye she put in her hair and the video showed her holding her thumb and forefinger slightly apart as if telling them "just this much". The video had a hard time keeping up with current events. Also my friend was listening on another computer and he was 5 seconds ahead of me in sound, damn him! You HAVE to have Real Audio 2.0 because 1.0 will not work. I had to download 2.0 and install it on the computer. If you have problems installing it try picking CUSTOM installation and don't have it set anything up for you. Then when you pick a Real Audio file (.ra .ram) Netscape will ask you to pick an application and you choose RAPLAYER.EXE. If you have a Mac I don't know what to tell you, personally I don't much care for 'em, they're too picky. I hope I've given some good advice here and have possibly helped some distraught people out there. I will comment on my Jewel Netexperience Friday. Until then, this J.A.K.E. signing off. - J.A.K.E. ------------------------------ From: James McGarry Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 11:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #193 On Mon, 13 May 1996, Selena Martin wrote: > holds only 700 people!! Now arent you "old-timers" just a bit > jealous of me to be seeing her through my brand spanking new baby > eyes? I have never heard anyone like her and I DO appreciate her > talent, her specialness, even if I've only now found her. Well, :-) not really jealous, I think you will find more than anything else, that Jewel has this uncanny ability to surprise you. Everytime is sometimes like the first time. Each time I see Jewel again I am sure I am prepared; sure I'm ready for what she's going to sing and I've steeled myself against it, last time (Bathurst St. Theatre in TO) it was "Nikos", I was glad no one came with me to that one since I think I was teary-eyed all the way home. This time (Monday night at the Opera House in Toronto [aside: "there's a bar upstairs?"]) it was "A Boy Needs A Bike",... much lip biting folks. :-) I'm still writing bits and pieces of my thoughts on that show and will post a bit later. :-) Glad you found her though :-) :-) James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ From: jtam@ejv.com (Joseph Tam) Date: Wed, 15 May 96 12:15:31 EDT Subject: looking for 5/16 tickets still hi. ok, it's the day before the irving plaza show and i still don't have a ticket. does anybody out there have an extra ticket? i missed her once already when she was here back in november. i really don`t want to miss her a second time. ): -joe ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Real Audio 2.0 & Net Simulcast On Wed, 15 May 1996, J.A.K.E. wrote: > You HAVE to have Real Audio 2.0 because 1.0 will not work. I had to > download 2.0 and install it on the computer. If you have problems > installing it try picking CUSTOM installation and don't have it set > anything up for you. Then when you pick a Real Audio file (.ra .ram) > Netscape will ask you to pick an application and you choose RAPLAYER.EXE. > If you have a Mac I don't know what to tell you, personally I don't much > care for 'em, they're too picky. Works exactly the same for the Mac except the name for the player is RealAudio Player. Personally I don't care for PCs because they're way too picky, especially with installations as shown here, and they have awkward filenames and you need to buy sound cards and speakers additionally and install them while macs come with sound and a speaker, no fuss no muss. Do remember to get Real Audio 2.0, though, as J.A.K.E. says. It won't work with the older versions. - --Neile ------------------------------ From: "Tom O'Brien" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Tape of Toronto show? Did anyone manage to get a copy of the show in Toronto that I could get a copy of? I would be forever in your debt. Thanks, Tom (tobrien@acsu.buffalo.edu) ------------------------------ From: Jon Held Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 13:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Phila, and Jewel's old letter to us. 1) Whoever is going to the Philadelphia TLA Jewel show on Sunday, contact me if you want - a few of us from the list might be meeting there, just to..uh... meet. 2) below is an old message to this list - it contains a letter that Jewel wrote to us, about a year ago. She wrote that she wrote a song (ugh! grammatical hell) for us called "deep water" - I've never heard this song - - what are the lyrics? -Jon Held elisheva@netaxs.com - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 19 Jun 95 09:58:31 EDT From: deltufjp@esvax.dnet.dupont.com Reply-To: jewel@jane.tiac.net To: jewel@jane.tiac.net Subject: Message from Jewel to US!!!! ...things she wanted me to pass on to us on the mailing list, and I'll type them all in as she wrote them. Jewel Kilcher to the "Jewel" mailing-list My fellow music lovers- I can't begin to portray to you the feeling of a dream coming true- I know it sounds corny, but it's so true. And useful. I was just a girl who was tired of waitressing and people believed in me and fed me by coming to my shows. Without my friends in San Diego, and now this incredible new group of people across the country I would still be hungry in my van. Now I'm just hungry in a rent-a-car in 48 states in 40 days- but my heart loves it! 24 hours of this a day is better than three hours of waitressing. Sometimes record labels think they sell albums- but they don't- they help, but it's you guys who help me. So often our dreams become our hobbies and it deadens our passions. I love my life and want to thank you al. I know our lives are separate and that none of you have to care about my happiness, but that you do things like taking the time to call radio stations means a lot to me. I hope I can give back as much as I'm given. I wrote a song I'd like to dedicate to you all. It's called "Deep Water." I hope you can all hear it one day. Jewel Kilcher Then she scribbled out a copy of a poem from her journal. It's amazing- the thing is stuffed full of poetry and it's like only the last two months worth! She said she has many many journals of poetry. Also, she never titles her poems- so..... "poem written at the airport cafeteria 6/12/95 after reading a bad press review" I think of the scrutiny and shrink beneath its million eyes has she gained weight? does blue become her? is she losing her light? Never "My I believe her intent is growing, if not her skill" Never noticing deaths Misfigured face in perfection or beauty in the awkward struggle of a new direction We've become fascinated With the fixed We possess all the curiosity of a cul-de-sac as though the honor lied in the mastering of the menial It can not be the end for which we live That is death, But for the struggle that keeps us young Daring to make mistakes Knowing there are none. I'd like to babble on about the show, setlist, etc., but I'm falling asleep. Suffice to say it was amazing, she played about 90 minutes and then was forced to play another 45 of encores. There were around 100 people. She played one amazing song about her helf-brother called "Nikos"- more personal than her normal material. She also broke into a hilarious impression of Dolores O'Riordin (Cranberries) in the middle of "My Own Private God's Gift to Women." She just seems to be getting better and better. All for now. BTW, Jewel said she thinks the list should be called "Everyday Angels". I have complete summer tour info that is a bit different from that at the Unofficial WWW page, and I'll post it when I get back. Joe del Tufo - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Wed, 15 May 96 14:10:42 EST Subject: Music Categories Jewel Can Sing OK, we all agree that Jewel is on of, if not the, best things to hit music in a long, long time. I was trying to determine her actual range in terms of categories of music. Here's a list of catagories and a song of Jewel's that could be considered in that group. Feel free to add. Pop - Of course 'Who Will Save Your Soul' Country - I think 'A Very Big Girl' fits this. Rap - 'Silver Linings' (duet with Steve Poltz) It's sort of rap. Swedish Lullaby - 'Chime Bells' Alternative (what is this category anyway) - 'Pieces of You' Blues - 'I Got the Blues More than You Do Blues' Religious - 'Amen' Cute, funny Ditty (ok, not a category you see in stores) - 'Race Car Driver' Sacarstic song about male assholes - 'My Own Private God's Gift to Women' That's all I can think of right now (I don't have a stereo in my office). I'm sure there's more, like an R&B tune, but I can't think of any. Later all, Dean, who is still waiting for a Jewel concert in Cincinnati. ------------------------------ From: ANGEL GALINANES <75271.2740@CompuServe.COM> Date: 15 May 96 14:59:11 EDT Subject: Frustration can only be excided by hatred Hello , fellow angels : Rafa's sentiments: ( after my little compostion is my anlysis on life) I dunno what I'm gonna do , maybe eat some fish and chips , maybe piss against the wind. Double edge knife: burning my heart , skinning my hands... False icons taken as heavenly symbols ... blood is being spiilled from my beer can ... my honor is being sold at the vintage shop ... my pride has plunged itself head first in a one way street , but still she could runaway and hide from me. Love is blind , light is sublime ,a homeless person in an Armani suit ... Estranged wife with a husband holding her arm... confused boy wishing for someone to hold on to , but his mother just spinned him around until his soul hit the floor dizzy and destroyed by her apathy. OHH mother !! Touch my hands, burn my flesh , I'll kid myself thnking that your love was that that burned. This is Rafa , what you have just experienced wasn't planned , is not a poem ... it's just a sample from my mind. Hope you feel something when you read this , I just want people to feel when they read this. It's a kind of expanded play on words and meanings , but it's not a contradiction!! I'm gonna start writting poetry soon again after I finish my finals. I'm unhappy , but not depressed ! NEED TO SEE OR HEAR FROM JEWEL SOON!!!! I've convinced myself and I won't settle for anything else that receiving a letter from JEWEL. Some of you might say that I have an extremist , unbalanced youth mind , but I refuse to believe so. I'm just to passionate , idealistic and romantic about stuff and I want my life to be a reflection of my dreams , I won't settle for anything else . Life isn't all cookies and sweets , I'm aware of that - for I have been unhappy for the last year ,,, yet I refuse to accept my life as it were anything else than my dreams . I have not lived life to settle for anything else that I consider the best , this has brought tears and nights of no sleep ; but I refuse to accept life as the shit it's turning out to be. Fuck society , fuck women and fuck all the cynics that have crashed my dreams !!!! But this angst doesn't cut it , and I won't fuck them cause they'll fuck me back!! No more depression , but I'm becoming jaded and a little to xenophobic. Smile upon my face , need a letter from the one I empathize with. And I need to see her or hear from her soon !!!!!!!!! until then my sorrowed friends: Rafael Angel ( <-- thats my real second name , but the truth is I find that it doesn't fit me right now) :-/ :-( :-0. ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Jewel on another compilation I know there's already been a mention of this, but here's another announcement. This one is from alt.music.alternative.female: -------------------!* ZENtertainment *!-------------------- ZENtertainment May 13th, 1996 - Issue #40 http://www.zentertainment.com/ AOL Keyword: ZENTERTAINMENT ------------------->> ZENtertainment - MUSIC Interscope will release MOM: MUSIC FOR OUR MOTHER OCEAN, a benefit album for The Surfrider Foundation, on July 2nd. The compilation includes such tracks as PEARL JAM's cover of THE SILLY SURFERS' "Gremmie Out of Control", PENNYWISE's cover of "Surfin' USA", HELMET's cover of Bjork's "Army of Me", SILVERCHAIR's cover of "Surfin' Bird", Jewel's "Quiet Warrior", and an exclusive BEACH BOYS cover by NO DOUBT, and tracks by PRIMUS, SEVEN MARY THREE, and THE BEASTIE BOYS. ------------------------------ From: Kamyar Aram Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:00:58 -0400 Subject: odeon in cleveland, last night could it be that NO ONE else on this list went to the cleveland concert last night... maybe you're just slow to write about it... well, not much to say... most folks have already said it regarding earlier shows... nothing short of incredible... like someone said before i keep thinking i know what to expect... won't make that mistake again... first off, in my opinion the band thing is awesome... i loved every new arrangement, i loved the new intensity the band brought to her sound... i absolutely love the new songs... WOW WOW WOW... i don't know if this was the first show she did this at but she opened up w/ "summertime" (well known i believe by Ella Fitzgerald? and i also know Janis Joplin does a beautiful version) accompanied only w/ stand up bass... I AM ALSO UTTERLY SHOCKED by her popularity in cleveland... i had to drive from columbus and getting caught in construction traffic i only got there half hour early... the place was already packed and all the t-shirts were sold out... half an hour before the duncan sheik was scheduled to go on!!!... (by the way, duncan imo has potential but his band was lame... i was disappointed to see him disrespected by jewel fans though, because the same kind of disrespect was suffered by jewel last time i saw her open for edwin mccain band... not only were people loud and not paying attention, several people actually insulted him... very uncool) well, as someone perfectly put it earlier, i'll give anything short of my soul for a copy of ANY of this tour's shows (need my soul to enjoy it)... in fact it would be very kind of all persons in possesion of such tapes to offer them up for trees and thus get rid of any threat of getting swarmed by requests... please please please please if you have a tape of any of these shows share... okay, i've said more than my bit, thanks for listening... peace to y'all yar ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #197 ***************************