From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #102 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Tuesday, 26 March 1996 Volume 01 : Number 102 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jewel on pollstar on-line(long) Promo CD Re: jewel-digest V1 #101 Re: greg? Re: greg? Jewel Exploitation Was (RE: jewel-digest V1 #101) Re: Jewel on radio? Re: Producer! Re: joan osborne's career over? Re: jewel-digest V1 #101 Re: Producer! Re: joan osborne's career over? Re: joan osborne's career over? Re: Producer! Re: jewel-digest V1 #101 Re: joan osborne's career over? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jsigman1@ic3.ithaca.edu Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:24:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jewel on pollstar on-line(long) Hey, everybody! It's my first post! Well, just thought you might be=20 interested in the following. Jewel is the artist of the week on Pollstar=20 On-line (http://www.pollstar.com), a concert database. The story's pretty= =20 cool, so I thought you might want to read it. Enjoy. =09=09=09=09James (who loves Bob Dylan and Jewel, but=20 won't see them because he's nowhere near where they're playing and has no= =20 money to travel) =20 JEWEL Artist of the Week - March 25, 1996 =20 =09 TWENTY-ONE-YEAR-OLD JEWEL KILCHER's sultry-sweet voice and insightful songwriting evolved on the 800-acre Alaskan homestead where she was raised with no running water and no indoor plumbing. Now, she's living in the center of the music business with a debut record on Atlantic, Pieces of You. Jewel's life on the homestead was primitive, but because her parents were singer/songwriters, music was always in the air. Jewel began singing with her parents in hotel bars when she was only six. Later, when her parents divorced, she toured with her dad, eventually getting to solo and sing leads. =20 After high school at the Interlochen Fine Arts Academy in Michigan, Jewel moved to San Diego, where her mother was living. There, she attempted to discover what she was going to do with the rest of her life. "[When] I moved to San Diego, I was barely paying rent and I was scraping food off of people's plates where I worked as a waitress," Jewel told POLLSTAR. "It was a very frustrating time because I was very aware that my life wasn't infused with any passion. I was basically passing time, just trying to survive [but] I knew I was much more than a survivor. I knew that I had a lot of creativity." =20 Jewel finally got fired from her last serving job and ended up living in her van. "It was sort of out of that necessity that I said, 'Okay, I'm going to die or I'm going to do something that I like.'" That's when she decided to play guitar and write songs. It was hard for Jewel to find a paying gig at first but once she landed a regular spot at a coffee house, things turned around. As her coffee house audiences began to grow, record execs started making the trip to San Diego. "I got a really good local following going and there was a lot of buzz on it. And pretty soon, Virgin Records came down, then Epic, and then Atlantic and RCA." Jewel said it was really weird going from living in her van on five bucks a day to naively meeting with record company execs who were pitching deals. =20 Jewel ultimately signed with Atlantic because she felt the company best suited her dreams. "When I was living in my car, I prayed every night that I'd get to live my dream, and that by me living my dream, people would remember theirs. [Then] I got real scared. I didn't really want to go into the business. Coming from such simplicity and going into what you hear to be is all the cliches of the business [frightened me]. So I just prayed that I'd meet people that would really see what I was about and [know] my intent and my heart and want to protect and preserve that and put that out to the public. Atlantic's where I met people that got what I was about, believed in music and the spirit and the soul of it." =20 Also helping Jewel achieve her dreams are her co-managers, her mom, Nedra Carroll, and Inga Vainshtein, who have unquestionably supported her dream. "She really helps you grow," Jewel said of her mother. "In this business, it is easier to grow creatively faster than you grow emotionally and [it's important] to stay grounded." Jewel also carries around rocks, feathers, a box of soil from Alaska and pictures of the van she called home to remind her of her roots. "Anything that reminds me of beauty, I travel with in my hotel rooms =FE candles and that kind of thing. But, [staying grounded] is a mental discipline. You really have to stay very focused and dedicated to what you're doing and always stay joyful and thankful. Otherwise it's very easy to become over exhausted and begin taking things for granted." =20 One thing Jewel didn't take for granted was the opportunity to play Dorothy in a production of Wizard of Oz at Lincoln Center in New York City, sharing the stage with Jackson Browne, Roger Daltrey and Natalie Cole. "It's fun to use more parts of myself because singing and writing is one part of me, but my other parts atrophy as I'm on the road." Playing Dorothy was a very surreal experience for Jewel. "All of a sudden I was in front of 5,000 people going, 'There's no place like home,'" she said laughing. "I kept going, 'I don't know if I can do this.' And Jackson Browne kept saying, 'Shut up Jewel. You are Dorothy. It's not like it's that much of a stretch.'" =20 Jewel said recording parts of her debut record at Neil Young's ranch was another surreal experience. "Sitting in the studio where Harvest Moon was recorded and playing Hank Williams Sr.'s guitar, that really blew me away. It's funny, the other things, like opening for Bob Dylan, you think it's going to be a really big deal and you get there and it feels kind of normal. Not in a bad way, but in a really good way." =20 Jewel has taken all her road experience and used it to developed into the kind of singer that can hold the attention of 20,000 alterna-kids in between Everclear and The Ramones. How does she do it with music that is so folksy with such a strong coffeehouse flavor? "I think it's from my background, the way I was raised with my father doing bars. He just had an acoustic guitar and I sang harmony and he really believed you should go off the audience. You should see what mood they're in and then do whatever song you think they need to hear. So I became real audience sensitive. And the years I played at the coffee shop [helped me] learn how to craft a set around what the audience needs. It's really learning to adapt yourself to a situation and how to be a showman and how to tell stories or do whatever the heck it takes to get people listening. I got to do years and years of that, so by the time I started doing my own tours, I had enough experience of not being intimidated or scared, but really going on and just taking control and working with an audience." =20 Jewel truly believes her extensive touring and dedication to being a live performer has been essential to building her career to the level it is today. "I'm not an obvious radio hit, much less an obvious alternative MTV thing. My music is really honest and it touches people's heart and that's all I care about. I don't have any big delusions of fame or fortune. I just want to eat everyday doing what I love. And as long as I eat everyday =FE and sing =FE I'm okay. And I know that hard wood grows slowly." =20 Jewel spent early '96 on the road, co-headlining packed houses with Edwin McCain (booked by Rob Light at CAA) and is now in Hawaii writing songs. =20 =20 All contents Copyright =A9 1995,1996 Promoters On-Line Listings, Inc. All Rights Reserved. We welcome your suggestions and comments! You can send them to webmaster@pollstar.com. If you have a concert tour schedule update, email update@pollstar.com. For information about hard copy subscriptions and our other services, email info@pollstar.com. ------------------------------ From: "E. Kevin C. de Leon" Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:11:00 -0500 Subject: Promo CD I was wondering if anyone could help me find Jewel's Save The Linoleum album. I have looked everywhere but I can't find it. Does anyone know of anyway I could get my hand on this album, I would like to get hold of some of those songs that I heard in concert but are not on her first official album release. Any help would be much appreciated, Kevin ------------------------------ From: Nannette Mickle Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 02:44:46 -0800 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #101 Hey Angels, You know I was thinking about how many of us have posted to request Jewel on VH1, MTV, local radio stations, etc. for her to gain exposure. To be real honest, I'm not quite sure that that is what would be best. Don't get me wrong, I am all for Jewel's success and the more people touched by her music the better. But the thing I fear is her explotation. I mean look at Joan Osbourne. Perfect example. A woman with a lot of talent, wrote her own songs, played in small clubs, even produced her own records, then some big producer got ahold of her, promised her fame with the "One Of Us Song" (which, by the way, Joan didn't even write) and here a few months later her career is over and she didn't even get fame from a song SHE wrote. I guess I just feel very protective of Jewel and her talent. And she IS so young. (Not like I should talk, we are the same age!!) But I would just hate for too much exposure to ruin her career. It's happened way too many times and Jewel is someone I don't want to see it happen to. Just my thoughts. Anyone agree or disagree? Candra "I'm still alive..." Eddie Vedder ------------------------------ From: Tazarazz@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:12:47 -0500 Subject: Re: greg? I'm the one (me, Tara) who posted the thing about Jewel on HFS. Greg replied with: >Oh no! You blasphemer! How dare you mention Jewel in the same >breath as them scaly blowers. ;) > >BTW-ever notice that hootie sounds whiter than Barry Manilow? :) > >=Greg I guess he was just making fun of Hootie, which I didn't find to humorous, since i like 'em, and I didn't like the "white" remark either, but hey, whadda gonna do? And The Fugees chickie, her name is Lauryn, and you're right, she's got an great voice, and it's a great album. Hope this clears it up a little. Tara ------------------------------ From: Tazarazz@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:45:45 -0500 Subject: Re: greg? - ---->You're being offended by someone that wasn't being offensive, that's all. Some people do happen to be offended by his remark, whether or not he was trying to be offensive, but that's just the way it goes sometimes, thru no fault of anyone, okay? ------------------------------ From: Michael Alowitz Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:42:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jewel Exploitation Was (RE: jewel-digest V1 #101) > >touched by her music the better. But the thing I fear is her >explotation. I mean look at Joan Osbourne. Perfect example. A woman >with a lot of talent, wrote her own songs, played in small clubs, even >produced her own records, then some big producer got ahold of her, >promised her fame with the "One Of Us Song" (which, by the way, Joan >didn't even write) and here a few months later her career is over and she >didn't even get fame from a song SHE wrote. I guess I just feel very >protective of Jewel and her talent. And she IS so young. (Not like I I disagree completely. I'm not a Joan Osborne fan, but she does have the 2nd video out. I think its Right Hand Man or something. And hits don't usually come 4 at a time. She'll have another CD out soon enough. Because of her current success, it'll get air play. . . . "The Highly Anticipated Follow up CD" We've all heard it before and I'm sure we'll hear it with Joan Osborne. Now, if Jewel continues this exposure, maybe we'll hear likewise about her in a few months. Just my thoughts BTW I'm glad I found all you fellow Jewel Fans. I haven't met any others at school here. And are there any UVM students on here who might be able to give me more info on the Jewel/Dylan concert? (Go Catamounts . . . good luck in Cincinati) Mike alow4681@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:56:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Jewel on radio? Sounds like a cool show! Besides Jewel, I like the looks of the guest line-up, and on top of that I think Janeane Garofolo is pretty cool herself. I've seen her on a couple of late-night talk shows (Greg Kinnear and another one), and she seems very hip, down-to-earth and funny. Which explains why she was blown off Saturday Night Live I guess. At 19:38 25/03/96 -0600, Gerald John Cho wrote: >I just received this from a email gossip mag. Anyone have further info. >about this? > >cheers, >Gerald. > > 7UP launched a radio show last week hosted by Janeane > Garofalo to over 200-non commercial college radio stations. > Titled 7UP LISTEN UP!, the show includes Garafolo > interviewing alternative bands and exclusive in-studio > performances. Some of the guests appearing during the show's > first seven weeks include SPACEHOG, JEWEL, YO LA TENGO, > ^^^^^ > SKELETON KEY, JAMES CARTER, TRACY BONHAM, and THE BOGMEN. > > > > - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS danstark@netcom.ca dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca will be forwarded Windsor, Ontario, Canada danstarkds@aol.com is cancelled - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Dan Stark Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:56:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Producer! At 22:23 25/03/96 -0500, Pooh wrote: >Peter Collins has produced many of Rush's albums..In case anybody was >wondering. Since I can forsee a barrage of Rush hate-mail to come in the next few days, let me just cast my vote in favor of this one. Love 'em or hate 'em, there's no denying that Rush are perfectionists when it comes to their production sound, and their albums are technically excellent. I expect Collins will offer some valuable production input, and help put together a clean, tight sound that's not glossed over. Interesting. Dan - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAN STARK PLEASE NOTE NEW E-MAIL ADDRESS danstark@netcom.ca dstark@freenet.npiec.on.ca will be forwarded Windsor, Ontario, Canada danstarkds@aol.com is cancelled - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:23:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: joan osborne's career over? > I mean look at Joan Osbourne. Perfect example. A woman > with a lot of talent, wrote her own songs, played in small clubs, even > produced her own records, then some big producer got ahold of her, > promised her fame with the "One Of Us Song" (which, by the way, Joan > didn't even write) and here a few months later her career is over and she > didn't even get fame from a song SHE wrote. I think you're *really* jumping the gun by saying Osborne's career is over. "Right Hand Man" is a great song, and it's getting fairly decent airplay on both VH1 and radio. "One of Us" is still on the charts, and "Relish" is still very high on the Billboard chart. "Relish" is by no means devoid of material other than "OoU", and she could still have a hit single left in it. In fact, I would be happy if Jewel followed a path similar to JO's (Grammy noms, Best Album of the Year lists, hit single). - -- Mark Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA ------------------------------ From: Adam Humphrey Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:22:12 -0500 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #101 I understand what you are saying about overexposure, but I cannot understand how you could not want Jewel to finally get what she deserves. This is what she wants. She's making it with her songs and people ar starting to get interested. As much as I like her POY album I do not really see any songs giving her huge success. I agree with you there, that quick stardom often sees a quick exit, and that is why I feel that Jewel will be safe because she is gradually building success. That is all I have to say, I would like to here what you think in response. Adam bagg io@indy.net P.S. Just in case: I was not trying to be rude or attack you in anyway, OK? You seem like an intelligent person that can respect others opinions, but I am just being safe so I do not offend you. At 02:44 AM 3/26/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hey Angels, > You know I was thinking about how many of us have posted to request >Jewel on VH1, MTV, local radio stations, etc. for her to gain exposure. >To be real honest, I'm not quite sure that that is what would be best. >Don't get me wrong, I am all for Jewel's success and the more people >touched by her music the better. But the thing I fear is her >explotation. I mean look at Joan Osbourne. Perfect example. A woman >with a lot of talent, wrote her own songs, played in small clubs, even >produced her own records, then some big producer got ahold of her, >promised her fame with the "One Of Us Song" (which, by the way, Joan >didn't even write) and here a few months later her career is over and she >didn't even get fame from a song SHE wrote. I guess I just feel very >protective of Jewel and her talent. And she IS so young. (Not like I >should talk, we are the same age!!) But I would just hate for too much >exposure to ruin her career. It's happened way too many times and Jewel >is someone I don't want to see it happen to. > Just my thoughts. Anyone agree or disagree? > Candra > "I'm still alive..." Eddie Vedder > > ------------------------------ From: "Andrew Lee" Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 21:41:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Producer! > Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:56:30 -0500 > To: Pooh > From: Dan Stark > Subject: Re: Producer! > Cc: Everyday Angels At 20:56 26/03/96 -0500, Dan Stark wrote > Since I can forsee a barrage of Rush hate-mail to come in the next few days, > let me just cast my vote in favor of this one. Love 'em or hate 'em, > there's no denying that Rush are perfectionists when it comes to their > production sound, and their albums are technically excellent. I expect > Collins will offer some valuable production input, and help put together a > clean, tight sound that's not glossed over. Interesting. And can it not be agreed upon that despite what one thinks about the music that Rush produces, their drummer, Neil Peart (sp?) is one of the best drummers in the world? - Majesta ------------------------------ From: nebulous@panix.com (friendly neighborhood psychopath) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:02:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: joan osborne's career over? miazgama@pilot.msu.edu says: >I think you're *really* jumping the gun by saying Osborne's career is over. >"Right Hand Man" is a great song, and it's getting fairly decent airplay on >both VH1 and radio. "One of Us" is still on the charts, and "Relish" is still >very high on the Billboard chart. "Relish" is by no means devoid of material >other than "OoU", and she could still have a hit single left in it. In fact, I >would be happy if Jewel followed a path similar to JO's (Grammy noms, Best >Album of the Year lists, hit single). you're right that he is *probably* premature in calling osbourne a has-been already, but the point is that it's entirely possible. sure she's successful, but in an entirely superficial way: hit singles, mtv videos, grammy nominations.. this doesn't create lifetime fans, it brings in temporary follow-the-trend losers that will hide their jewel album under their spin doctors cd when the next big thing comes around (will anyone even remember hootie in twenty years?). in my opinion, the way to build a career in music is to go around and play it. a lot. sure you don't get quick, easy money or a house in the hills right away, but you build FANS. true fans that will stick with you regardless of the bar/arena your playing in. after a while this pays off big time (example: phish). jewel started out doing this, but, unconsciously or not, that has changed, and the eventual effect may be an influx of new 'fans' that really don't care as much about the music as being seen and the desertion of older fans. eventually, her fifteen minutes end and it's back to that cafe you saw her in so long ago, but it's never really the same. i might sound overly cynical, but i've seen this happen quite a few times and it's, well, annoying. i'm not saying this is GOING to happen. but how many musicians can you think of that have lived through a self-induced media frenzy? jewel may very well get her dream of a stadium singing 'fa-ggot', but only if they release 'pieces of you' as a single; otherwise half the crowd probably won't even know the words... ben *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* | ben sterling 'though we haven't even spoken, | | new york, ny still i sense there's a rapport' | | nebulous@panix.com morphine | *-----------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:19:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: joan osborne's career over? > you're right that he is *probably* premature in calling osbourne a has-been > already, but the point is that it's entirely possible. sure she's > successful, but in an entirely superficial way: hit singles, mtv videos, > grammy nominations.. this doesn't create lifetime fans, it brings in > temporary follow-the-trend losers that will hide their jewel album under > their spin doctors cd when the next big thing comes around So, are you saying that *anyone* with a hit single, video on MTV, or hit singles is achieveing their success in a "superficial" way? Joan Osborne achieved a fan base *before* she was ever on MTV, through touring and releasing albums independently. > in my opinion, the way to build a career in music is to go around and play > it. a lot. sure you don't get quick, easy money or a house in the hills > right away, but you build FANS. true fans that will stick with you > regardless of the bar/arena your playing in. after a while this pays off > big time (example: phish). jewel started out doing this, but, > unconsciously or not, that has changed, and the eventual effect may be an > influx of new 'fans' that really don't care as much about the music as > being seen and the desertion of older fans. eventually, her fifteen > minutes end and it's back to that cafe you saw her in so long ago, but it's > never really the same. i might sound overly cynical, but i've seen this > happen quite a few times and it's, well, annoying. If you have trouble going back to an artist after he/she has gained success, whose fault is that? Take Tracy Chapman, for example. She released one of the best albums ever recorded (IMO) in 1988, but hasn't had a hit single since "Fast Car" that year. I still love her, have bought every single one of her records. I recently saw her (March 18) in a very small venue (a movie theater), and it was one of the most wonderful nights of my life. The fans there were not "hop on the boat" fans, but fans who have stuck with her since she left the radio. > i'm not saying this is GOING to happen. but how many musicians can you > name that have survived a self-induced media frenzy? I'm having trouble with the word "self-induced". Are you saying that Jewel should never have signed with a major label and continued to sing in coffee houses for the rest of her life? Is constant touring and appearing on any TV show that will take her, which was her ticket to success, really a superficial, self-induced way of achieving success. There's a similar discussion going on right now on the Happy Rhodes mailing list... Happy apparently hardly ever does appearances, and someone was feeling jealous of Jewel for gaining success. But someone brought up the point that Jewel has done constant touring and appearances to gain this success. Of course it is self-induced, but doesn't everyone want success? Just MHO. - -- Mark Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA ------------------------------ From: "J.j. Varley" Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 19:23:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Producer! On Tue, 26 Mar 1996, Andrew Lee wrote: > At 20:56 26/03/96 -0500, Dan Stark wrote > > Since I can forsee a barrage of Rush hate-mail to come in the next few days, > > let me just cast my vote in favor of this one. Love 'em or hate 'em, > > there's no denying that Rush are perfectionists when it comes to their > > production sound, and their albums are technically excellent. > And can it not be agreed upon that despite what one thinks about the > music that Rush produces, their drummer, Neil Peart (sp?) is one of > the best drummers in the world? Uh, no. Like everything with Rush, they're _technically_ impressive, but not much else. - -- J.j. Varley | jvarley@netcom.com | San Diego, CA "He has two consuming ambitions, never achieved: to overthrow the government and to get his trousers mended." ------------------------------ From: Kate Kosteva Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:33:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #101 Hi everyone... What is going on about the April 16 Dylan/Jewel concert in Amherst, MA? A couple of the messages have listed Dylan dates going from April 14 directly to the 18th... and then there is a message saying that they are performing on the 16th. Is there *anyone* who can confirm this definitely? Amherst is the only place relatively close to me, and it seems like this concert may or may not be real. Can anybody help out? Thanks ------------------------------ From: Tazarazz@aol.com Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 22:58:42 -0500 Subject: Re: joan osborne's career over? In a message dated 96-03-26 22:21:24 EST, you write: >(will anyone >even remember hootie in twenty years?). > > Well it happens that Hootie has been around for ten years themselves and have built up a tremendous fan base, especially in the Carolinas, and contrary to popular belief, "Cracked Rear View" is not their first album, either. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #102 ***************************