From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #51 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Sunday, 11 February 1996 Volume 01 : Number 051 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: have you seen this? Hello to All! Re: jewel on *out* sampler Re: Hello to All! Chicago Review Re: Hello to All! Re:Hello to All Re: Hello to All! Re: Hello to All! Re: Hello to All Re: Hello to All! Good Morning America!! (and what a good morning it is) Re: Hello to All! Great debate I am still accepting questions for Jewel Funtime's Inquiring Mind ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Neal Copperman Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:05:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: have you seen this? On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, Mark Hazelbaker wrote: > with a recent subscription to _out_ magazine, they sent me a cd sampler > called *knock out 2* which, to my surprise, includes: > > JEWEL "Women's Song" non-LP cut from the > Atlantic album PIECES OF YOU (82700) Neat! Is it a live song or a studio song? Is there a band with her? I always figured a non-LP cut meant it came form the sessions used to record the album. In this case, it could have been a live Innerchange recording or it could have been a song they recorded while working on PoY, and for whatever reason decided not to include it on the album. Steve, I don't have set-lists of the recordings. I saw three of the four shows and don't recall her playing this song, but I wouldn't trust my memory at all. It's always been a favorite of mine though. And it's NOT a lesbian song. Though, as Steve said, it can very easily be read as such. (Then again, I saw PoY taken as a lesbian song at a show too!) With lines like "No one can know, the love between two strong women", the impression is pretty easy to get. However, the story behind the song goes something like this: Jewel was in high school and was sick and in the hospital. She was feeling kind of down, and nobody had come to visit her. Then, a girl she wasn't even all that close a friend with came and brought her flowers, and this was the spark for the song. So, it's essentially a song about female friendship. I think the woman was a dance student, which perhaps sparked some of the dancing lines. However, I'm a firm believer that songs can exist on many levels. So if jewel wrote it with one idea in her mind, it doesn't mean it can't apply to others as well. Oh, and the song is on the tapes that are being treed, in a different form, of course. Neal ------------------------------ From: diciccda@saber.udayton.edu Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 13:26:17 -0500 Subject: Hello to All! Hello everyone on the Jewel mailing list! My name is Dave DiCicco and I am a first year law student at the University of Dayton in Ohio. I have been a devoted Jewel fan since last June, but I have been to busy to sign up for the mailing list. This past week I saw Jewel on Feb. 3 in Cincinnati and on Feb. 6 in Indianapolis. I got to talk to her briefly after the show in Indy. I was ecstatic! Was anyone at either of those shows? I'd love to hear what people thought. Did anyone stay for Edwin Mccain at any of the shows on this tour? In Cincinnati, the Edwin fans were really annoying and nearly ruined a fabulous Jewel concert. Has anyone else found the Edwin Fans to be such asses? A Cincinnati weekly paper, EVERYBODY'S NEWS, printed a short review of the show and tooled on the Edwin fans. CLUELESS AND CROCKED Paying attention to Jewel was challenging for Edwin McCain (basically Hootie) Fans Armed with only her pleasing soft soprano voice, an acoustic guitar and well-developed yodeling skills, 21-year-old contemporary folk singer Jewel took the stage at Bogart's Saturday night in front of a crowd of inebriated patrons waiting for Edwin McCain, the headliner. The more vocal of the inebriates taunted the Alaskan native, but Jewel seemed to pay it little mind initially, jokingly responding to the more offensive comments. Jewel's show consisted of cuts from her debut album PIECES OF YOU. In between performing cuts like "I'm Sensitive," "Daddy," and the title track, she told the audience of her Alaskan homecoming. The confident performer mockingly snapped at a rude patron who sneered at the name of her hometown, Homer. The SIMPSON'S producers would have been proud. At the end of her set, Jewel asked the concert goers clinging to the bar to shut up. [All of us at the foot of the stage cheered when she did this.] She had had enough of their noise. This gave the crowd a rise. After a flick of the finger [when some knuckle-head screamed "FREEBIRD!"] to the unrelenting hecklers at the rear of the club, Jewel proceeded to yodel her way to an ovation. She accelerated her pace. Jewel's mouth was moving so fast that the sound emanating from the speakers did not match what was seen. Although she won the steadily increasing crowd over with her yodeling, the rowdy attendees must have offended the young singer because she left the stage with an unconvincing half smile. After all, she is sensitive. -----Soren Baker Did anyone else have this type of experience? The show in Indy was definitely quieter. She didn't need to yodel to get attention. I just thougt I'd share this with everyone, and I hope to hear back soon. I also like Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Lisa Germano, Phish, and the Dead. Well, I hope I didn't take too much of your time. Does anyone actually have "Phyllis Barnaby"? Am I wasting my time still looking for it? Does anyone know how many were printed? Take care, Dave DiCicco diciccda@saber.udayton.edu "God never listens to what I say ... and you don't get a refund if you overpray." ---Phish :-) ------------------------------ From: Mark Hazelbaker Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 14:53:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: jewel on *out* sampler Date: 11-Feb-1996 02:17pm EST From: Hazelbaker, Mark MHAZELBA Dept: GRAD Tel No: (201)408-4002 TO: _IN%"jewel@smoe.org" ( _IN%"jewel@smoe.org"@MRGATE@DANIEL ) Subject: RE: jewel on *out* sampler hey all -- sorry 'bout throwin' out the bait and holdin' back the info! for those who've asked, _out_ magazine is _america's best-selling gay and lesbian magazine_ (or, at least, that's what they say about themselves). you can find it in just about any newsstand/bookstore/magazine shop -- it's a pretty mainstream (?) publication. their subscription number is 800 876 1199 (order by credit card, they say!) or you can find those little pull-out-drop-in-the-mail subscription cards in the magazine itself (which you could probably pull out of the magazine at the newsstand without actually buying it, i'd think). the cut on the sampler (_knock out two_) is definitely from the studio -- it's too smooth to be live. as for the content as lesbian, _someone_ sure got the idea that this is what the song's about. j's intentions notwithstanding, once a song goes public, it's meaning is in the hands (or ears, i should say) of the listener, no longer _belonging_ to the author. for better or worse, it means whatever we want it to mean! bottom line: it's a great song; for *me*, it would evoke a positive response whether i were woman or man, gay or non-gay. as well, from a couple of friends who have record contracts, mainstream companies, shy away from too much _gay stuff_. the song PoY is so gay positive (at least, in my reading of it) that my guess is that a mainstream label like atlantic wouldn't want to push the envelope with another. that's just a guess, albeit a slightly informed one :] if we like the progressive lyrics, we need to let j and the label know... | | mark ------------------------------ From: Brian Vineyard <922891@xavier.xu.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 15:45:03 -0800 Subject: Re: Hello to All! diciccda@saber.udayton.edu wrote: > > Hello everyone on the Jewel mailing list! > My name is Dave DiCicco and I am a first year law student at the University of > Dayton in Ohio. > > I have been a devoted Jewel fan since last June, but I have been to busy to sign up for the mailing list. > > This past week I saw Jewel on Feb. 3 in Cincinnati and on Feb. 6 in Indianapolis. I got to talk to her briefly after the show in Indy. I was ecstatic! > > Was anyone at either of those shows? I'd love to hear what people thought. > Did anyone stay for Edwin Mccain at any of the shows on this tour? > > In Cincinnati, the Edwin fans were really annoying and nearly ruined a fabulous > Jewel concert. Has anyone else found the Edwin Fans to be such asses? > > A Cincinnati weekly paper, EVERYBODY'S NEWS, printed a short review of the show > and tooled on the Edwin fans. > > CLUELESS AND CROCKED > Paying attention to Jewel was challenging for Edwin McCain > (basically Hootie) Fans > > Armed with only her pleasing soft soprano voice, an acoustic guitar and > well-developed yodeling skills, 21-year-old contemporary folk singer Jewel took > the stage at Bogart's Saturday night in front of a crowd of inebriated patrons > waiting for Edwin McCain, the headliner. The more vocal of the inebriates > taunted the Alaskan native, but Jewel seemed to pay it little mind initially, > jokingly responding to the more offensive comments. > > Jewel's show consisted of cuts from her debut album PIECES OF YOU. In > between performing cuts like "I'm Sensitive," "Daddy," and the title track, > she told the audience of her Alaskan homecoming. The confident performer > mockingly snapped at a rude patron who sneered at the name of her hometown, > Homer. The SIMPSON'S producers would have been proud. > > At the end of her set, Jewel asked the concert goers clinging to the > bar to shut up. [All of us at the foot of the stage cheered when she did > this.] She had had enough of their noise. This gave the crowd a rise. > After a flick of the finger [when some knuckle-head screamed "FREEBIRD!"] > to the unrelenting hecklers at the rear of the club, Jewel proceeded to yodel > her way to an ovation. She accelerated her pace. Jewel's mouth was moving > so fast that the sound emanating from the speakers did not match what was seen. > Although she won the steadily increasing crowd over with her yodeling, > the rowdy attendees must have offended the young singer because she left the > stage with an unconvincing half smile. After all, she is sensitive. > -----Soren Baker > > Did anyone else have this type of experience? The show in Indy was > definitely quieter. She didn't need to yodel to get attention. > I just thougt I'd share this with everyone, and I hope to hear back soon. > > I also like Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, Lisa Germano, Phish, and > the Dead. Well, I hope I didn't take too much of your time. Does anyone > actually have "Phyllis Barnaby"? Am I wasting my time still looking for > it? Does anyone know how many were printed? > > Take care, > > Dave DiCicco > diciccda@saber.udayton.edu > > "God never listens to what I say ... and you don't get a refund if you > overpray." ---Phish :-) Dave, I am a student at Xavier University and I was at the Feb. 3 concert. I am a huge Edwin McCain fan and I had never heard of Jewel until that night. I can honestly say that I was very impressed with Jewel...especially the way she played to the crowd. The reason it was so rowdy was that she was so relaxed and played along with everything. I'll admit, at the beginning, I couldn't understand a word she said because of all of the conversations going on around me. However, about the second or third song into her set, people began to focus their attention on her. First of all, because she is beautiful, secondly because she has an incredible voice. She was so laid back during that concert that it made the atmosphere more intimate. By the end of her set, everyone in that building was so impressed with her that their whole focus was her. I don't know where you get off calling Edwin McCain fans asses. That is a complete and total generalization. That would be like me calling the people at Dayton asses after seeing the Dayton-Xavier game. Lighten up a little. Edwin McCain was the headlining band. More than half of the people there had never even heard of Jewel. Most of the people there were cheering for her by the end. Lighten up and pay attention. Also, the Edwin fans are not Hootie fans. Many started out as Hootie fans but then heard Edwin. A lot of those people there may have heard Solitude on the radio and bought the CD and liked it. I personally heard Edwin and Hootie for the first time on the Aware CD. I now listen to Edwin McCain more than I listen to Hootie and the Blowfish. I'm sure there are many people who feel the same. Just because they are from the same city and have the same sound and Darius Rucker sang background on Solitude does not mean that Edwin fans are really Hootie fans. If that was the case, could I call all 311 fans Rage fans? Get with the program. I don't see why you had to get all worked up because some people had never heard of Jewel and were only there to see the headlining band, Edwin McCain. I was one of them and like many others in that building have become a Jewel fan. If I didn't, I would have never subscribed to the Jewel mailing list and never would have seen this message to become so offended. Brian Vineyard - -- RI ------------------------------ From: Arthur Joseph Moen Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 14:59:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Chicago Review First of all, i have to thank Hiranya! thank you! you know what for! alright! since i work at the radio, i was able to get on the list for the meet and greet before the show! i was going to meet Jewel! my heart soared as i thought it over and over to myself! what wwould i say, how would i act? i finally decided i was going to play it cool, layed back, jazzy like you know... too bad i couldnt get in to see her! i wasnt 21 and it was in a bar! my heart falls to the floor at this point! but its all good, i was still going to see her in concert! maybe meet her afterwards! well, we had some time and went to go try some sushi cuz my freind is half japanese and he wanted to introduce us to it! interesting... anyways, we got in line (long line!) and we finally got into the concert! i stopped off by the souvinir shop and bought the ONLY Jewel shirt they had, it says F@#$ u! I'm Sensitive. but! my freind forgot she had a camera in her bag... so we had to go back to the car, ditch the camera, walk back, get in line, and go through the whole thing again! i was rather bummed at this point, but it was so much better once we got in! she was perfect, i walked in, she stood alone on stage, the lights shining off her hair, standing in a t-shirt and leather pants, both black, her voice ringing out Foolish Games! she was just as i expected, only better, i thought i was dreaming! we worked our way to the middle of the floor, i wanted to try for the front, but my freinds werent up to it and i wasnt going to ditch them, but i could have sworn she was looking right at mesome times... and when she was taking requests, we were shouting out JESSICA!!! she couldnt hear us, she was like, you, the guy over there (she was pointing at me!) what did you say? i rang out Jessica! she didnt remember it and wondered where i knew the song from, but sang Im Sensitive instead... but it was soooo great! she also sang and not in this order: Morning Song Who will save your soul race car driver all the animals she ended with a great rendition of Chime Bells! Nicotine Love was excellent! Angel standing by... probably more... well, i could tell you so much more, but im sure ive told you more than enough... plus, im writing on this God forsaken pine program which seems to think my middle name is Joseph... so i will leave you with that, Henry ------------------------------ From: Colin Stuckless Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:46:27 -0330 Subject: Re: Hello to All! Brian Vineyard wrote: > complete and total generalization. That would be like me calling the > people at Dayton asses after seeing the Dayton-Xavier game. Lighten up > a little. Edwin McCain was the headlining band. More than half of the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I don't see why you had to get all worked up because some people had > never heard of Jewel and were only there to see the headlining band, > Edwin McCain. I was one of them and like many others in that building > Brian Vineyard If any of the Jewel-Edwin venues are promoting the double bill as being headlined by Edwin, please post the details to the list. Jewel's management has said that it's strictly a co-headling deal, and that they'd appreciate knowing about any place that is billing Edwin as the headliner. Cheers, Colin ------------------------------ From: JPhipps207@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:23:57 -0500 Subject: Re:Hello to All for the 50th time Edwin McCain was NOT the headlining band. Jewel and Edwin were co-billed. Don't be so defensive Brian. This is the kind of attitude that most of us have seen from the Edwin fans. You'd be pretty pissed too if you were there to see Jewel and couldn't even enjoy it due to the rowdy and obnoxious behavior coming from the crowd. Maybe you are an exeption, but if there are 8 bad apples in a basket and 7 are bad, aren't you going to assume the 8th one is too? ------------------------------ From: gregdunn@indy.net (Greg Dunn) Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:32:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Hello to All! >Colin Stuckless wrote: > >If any of the Jewel-Edwin venues are promoting the double bill as >being headlined by Edwin, please post the details to the list. The local TicketB*st*rd outlets seem unaware that E.McC. isn't the headliner (all the locally printed ads seem to downplay Jewel's presence), though in fairness the tickets list them side by side and the venue had a very egalitarian set of posters and promos on display and in the paper. The radio promos was weird; big 30-second build-up on E. McC., short blurb to the effect of "also featuring Jewel", and then a 30-45 second announcement hinting that they're just a warm-up for the big concert the following day for JOHN ENTWHISTLE FORMERLY OF THE WHO. Like people are going to stay overnight in the bar waiting for him to play? I know, big names and all that, but sheesh. - -- | Greg Dunn | "Information is not knowledge; | | GregDunn@aol.com | knowledge is not wisdom; | | gregdunn@indy.net | wisdom is not truth." | | Greg@gdunn.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil | -- Frank Zappa | ------------------------------ From: Brian Vineyard <922891@xavier.xu.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:42:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Hello to All! Colin Stuckless wrote: > > Brian Vineyard wrote: > > > complete and total generalization. That would be like me calling the > > people at Dayton asses after seeing the Dayton-Xavier game. Lighten up > > a little. Edwin McCain was the headlining band. More than half of the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I don't see why you had to get all worked up because some people had > > never heard of Jewel and were only there to see the headlining band, > > Edwin McCain. I was one of them and like many others in that building > > > Brian Vineyard > > If any of the Jewel-Edwin venues are promoting the double bill as > being headlined by Edwin, please post the details to the list. > > Jewel's management has said that it's strictly a co-headling > deal, and that they'd appreciate knowing about any place that is > billing Edwin as the headliner. > > Cheers, > > Colin Colin, I don't know about anywhere else, but here in Cincinnati, Bogarts advertised it in the newspapers as "Edwin McCain (in HUGE print)" and in very small print "also:Jewel" and the tickets which are through Ticketmaster only say Edwin McCain. Jewel is not even mentioned. Brian Vineyard - -- RI ------------------------------ From: Brian Vineyard <922891@xavier.xu.edu> Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 16:59:36 -0800 Subject: Re: Hello to All JPhipps207@aol.com wrote: > > for the 50th time Edwin McCain was NOT the headlining band. Jewel and Edwin > were co-billed. Don't be so defensive Brian. This is the kind of attitude > that most of us have seen from the Edwin fans. You'd be pretty pissed too if > you were there to see Jewel and couldn't even enjoy it due to the rowdy and > obnoxious behavior coming from the crowd. Maybe you are an exeption, but if > there are 8 bad apples in a basket and 7 are bad, aren't you going to assume > the 8th one is too? I'm sorry if some of you are upset, but here in Cinci, it was marketed as Edwin McCain. Jewel's name doesn't even appear on the tickets (not even in fine print). Here name was barely even mentioned in the ad that was in the paper!!! - -- RI ------------------------------ From: dyani Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 17:22:38 EST Subject: Re: Hello to All! in cleveland it was basically promoted as an edwin mccain show. didn't hear any of the radio ads but the tickets just had his name and any newspaper things just had jewel kinda small underneath. but it was nice cos at the show itself it seemed like most of the crowd was there to see jewel - there was a screen in front of the stage before she played (as someone already mentioned) and when edwin mccain's name was shown there was a little bit of clapping, but when it said jewel everyone cheered loud. it was nice. i felt kinda bad for him though, what with half the crowd leaving after jewel. dyani ------------------------------ From: Patrick Brown Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:19:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Good Morning America!! (and what a good morning it is) I opened up the TV book from todays paper and flipping through happened to glance up at the morning listings and lo'n'behold, I saw, "Scheduled: singer Jewel" under the Good Morning America listing on Monday (tommorow, today depending). Was I excited. Once again, here's what I know: Good Morning America Mon Feb. 12 Scheduled: singer Jewel check local listings for time/channel Does anyone know when they usually slot a performance artist on the show? I usually tape Animaniacs at the same time and have to manage my recordings. pat - -- ## All opinions expressed are yours; you have only yourself to blame. ## "two roads diverged in a yellow wood and i, i took the third and that is why i am lost." -- daniel perett ------------------------------ From: Dasher7@aol.com Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:03:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Hello to All! In a message dated 96-02-11 15:54:37 EST, 922891@xavier.xu.edu (Brian Vineyard) writes: >Also, the Edwin fans are not Hootie fans. Many started out as >Hootie fans but then heard Edwin. A lot of those people there may have >heard Solitude on the radio and bought the CD and liked it. I personally >heard Edwin and Hootie for the first time on the Aware CD. I now listen >to Edwin McCain more than I listen to Hootie and the Blowfish. I'm sure >there are many people who feel the same. Just because they are from the >same city and have the same sound and Darius Rucker sang background on >Solitude does not mean that Edwin fans are really Hootie fans. If that >was the case, could I call all 311 fans Rage fans? Get with the program. >I don't see why you had to get all worked up because some people had >never heard of Jewel and were only there to see the headlining band, >Edwin McCain. I was one of them and like many others in that building >have become a Jewel fan. If I didn't, I would have never subscribed to >the Jewel mailing list and never would have seen this message to become >so offended Well, you kind of contradicted yourself here. YOu star out saying that all Edwin McCain fans are not Hootie fans, then go on to point out the obvious connections between the two bands and how many began to listen to Mcain via the Blowhards. True, the guy didn't have to get worked up because there were many Edwin Mcain fans there, after all, they were the headliners. The response was kind of indicative of the rabid reactionary attitude the Edwin/Hootie boys seem to inspire in their faithful. I said something jokingly negative about the BLowboys to a friend of mine the night of the Edwin/Jewel show and she got so defensive. Both of you should lighten up! A RAGE fan. Mark ------------------------------ From: diciccda@saber.udayton.edu Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 19:43:02 -0500 Subject: Great debate Hey All! I just got back home and checked my e-mail and was very glad to see that a wonderful dialogue had begun in just a few short hours. I was annoyed by the disrespect that the crowd initially showed to Jewel, but I am very glad to see that Brian Vineyard was won over by Jewel. I must come to Brian's defense by saying that the tickets in Cincy for Bogart's only said "Edwin McCain". There was no mention of Jewel at all. But in Indy the tickets listed both acts. I think Greg pointed that out in his reply. I've been on this list for only two days now, but I can tell I am going to enjoy myself. Now I can't wait to see GMA tomorrow. Talk to ya later, Dave DiCicco "Life is the red wagon simple and strong ... but when the feet are draggin' ... you pull for me and i pull for you" --- Jane Siberry ------------------------------ From: mossimo@novia.net Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 18:49:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: I am still accepting questions for Jewel Our interview with her in on Wednesday. I will post answers here. Keep'm short and sweet! Daniel mossimo@novia.net Secondary Emission http://www.novia.net/~mossimo/o2tv.html NEBRASKA CORNHUSKERS 1994 and 1995 REPEAT NATIONAL CHAMPIONS ************************************************************************** Daniel Flanigan. 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Jewel (of course), Tori Amos, and Bjork (I lose most people when I say bjork, I don't care if her debut sold over 1 million, everyone still scoffs at me when I admit my liking for her). Anybody out there?? Oh Yeah, if you hate bjork please don't flame mail me about it, scratch that. I give you guys more credit than to swear someone out as a result of personal opinion. Chris (funtime) ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #51 **************************