From: owner-jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org (jangle-poets-digest) To: jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org Subject: jangle-poets-digest V5 #23 Reply-To: jangle-poets@smoe.org Sender: owner-jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jangle-poets-digest Thursday, March 13 2003 Volume 05 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [JP] thoreau and boudreau ["Passe, Jeffrey" ] Re: [JP] Thoreau Boudreau Bateau [Rozettj@aol.com] Re: [JP] Thoreau Boudreau Bateau [Nieldsforever@aol.com] [JP] YAY FOR YAY, a parody [Nieldsforever@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:50:03 -0500 From: "Passe, Jeffrey" Subject: [JP] thoreau and boudreau Thanks to Rebecca for that very astute piece of research. It explains a lot about TK's music. I'll now have to re-listen to every single song for more connections. I hope Rebecca will share other connections as things go along. Not only is it very interesting, but could even be enlightening, or maybe even transcendental. Seriously. Rebecca, under the right guidance, you can develop the connection into a scholarly study. Imagine that! Jeff from Charlotte Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:20:31 EST From: Rozettj@aol.com Subject: Re: [JP] Thoreau Boudreau Bateau Gordon Boudreau, recently retired, I believe, is a past President of the Thoreau Society. tj Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 21:51:25 EST From: Nieldsforever@aol.com Subject: Re: [JP] Thoreau Boudreau Bateau Conversation. Elaboration. Imagination. Chit chat. Implications. Elephant talk! :-) (King Crimson reference) Very good, Rebecca. :-) In a message dated 3/11/03 10:15:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, catamethyst@hotmail.com writes: > I'm taking an English elective which is primarily centered around > Thoreau and Walden, and I keep on running into references to > Boudreau. Every time I saw the name, I would think, "Hey, that's > Maura Kennedy's maiden name!" A few days ago I realized that wait, > Maura's father is a Thoreauvian scholar. > > I cross-referenced the "Angel Fire" liner notes with the "Further Reading" > section of Walden, and sure enough, it's the same guy! Which just goes > to show that TK are EVERYWHERE. Dar sings, "We find magic everywhere." She was pretty close to nailing it there. :-) > Tangentially, I've also convinced myself that "Angel Fire" is subconsiously > all about Walden. "Just Like Henry David" is obvious, but beyond that: > > "Common Bond": One important belief in Transcendentalism is that we're > all deeply connected (so that it's powerful to just tell your story, because > it will strike a chord in others, too). New England Transcendentalism borrowed heavily from Samuel Taylor Coleridge, the English Romantic poet. Transcendentalism is Yankee Romanticism. Coleridge borrowed heavily from the German Idealist philosophers, especially Schiller and Schelling. So there is a line of influence from German Idealism to English Romanticism to New England Transcendentalism. But there's more --- lines of convergence radiating every which way. The Idealists, Romantics, and Transcendentalists were *all* influenced by the discovery of the East by the West, which also happened in the 19th Century. Check out Ralph Waldo Emerson's many allusions to Indian thought. So Transcendentalism --- what Rebecca describes as a being "deeply connected" to all things --- is a peculiarly American version of Eastern thought which is thousands of years old. Just let Pete Kennedy start opening your mind to these things --- he sure has opened my mind. Once you open your mind, clean the windows of your mind, the light can shine through. And as the Maggies sing, "Love Comes Inside." You actually have to open up your heart *and* your mind to "Let the Sunshine In." The grooviness of the 60's, with the emphasis on love, peace, flower power, and all that, was also an *opening* of the mind of the West to new things --- or rather, to old things, very old things, many of them from the East. Ravi Shankar? George Harrison? Dave Carter. Gandalf Murphy's "Talking to the Buddha." Even The Nields' "Mercy House," a song of compassion for all living things. So all these things are "deeply connected," as Rebecca says --- Transcendentalism, Romanticism, Idealism, the East, the 60's, the Kennedys, Dave Carter, Gandalf Murphy, the Nields. Dig it! :-) In the refrain from TK's *great* new title cut to their next album, "Stand," P&M sing, "Allah, Buddha, Yahweh, Jesus, Brahman..." Not one of these cats came from the West. Allah, Mohammed: Saudi Arabia. Buddha: India. Yahweh: Mount Sinai, in the Sinai Peninsula, part of Egypt. Jesus: Bethlehem, part of the West Bank of Palestine. Brahman: India. All from the East. In our fixation with Western ways, we have very nearly forgotten that the West represents only a fledgling culture, compared to what preceded it in the East. The West is not even half the world, even as the world is far less Land than Sea. :-) > "The Coo Coo": Thoreau constantly mentions various birds -- in fact, a > whole lots of "Sounds" is dedicated to their different warbles -- and even > mentions the cuckoo a couple of time. Okay, so it's tenuous. > > "Bells & Loaves & Letters": Morning is one of Thoreau's most crucial > ideas; he equates being awake with being alive, and says that ideally > we should live in eternal morning. Furthermore, loaves are simple food, > of which T approved, and after the basic human needs, he believed that > reading (like letters) was the most important. He was also an avid > letter-writer. > > I could go on through the album, but I'm too hungry. I wouldn't stop with "Angel Fire." I thought at once of "Can't Kill Hope with a Gun." On another list the other day, I said, "The party of Thoreau will seldom vote for more guns." :-) Hungry, eh? If anyone's hungry for more, we could do this again sometime. :-) Bruce Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 22:25:49 EST From: Nieldsforever@aol.com Subject: [JP] YAY FOR YAY, a parody In honor of Cadence's 30th birthday, I'm dredging up the non-Rhiannon version of YAY for YAY, the "Life is Large" parody. Sorry Rhi, we still love you, and you're still the Yay Faerie, and the Nieldsy May Queen of all things Yay. And we still love Cadence! Yay for Yay!!! :-) YAY FOR YAY, by Bruce, Stephen and Peter Palmatier (to the tune of The Kennedys' "Life is Large") [first worked on during our drive home from seeing TK w/ NN solo at the Allentown PA Mayfair, in hopes of singing this during TK's "Life is Large" Stony Man Mountain hike in the Blue Ridge Mountains of WV Memorial Day weekend, although we wound up not going to that] I knew two boys, named Stephen and Peter, They thought the Nields were neat and the Kennedys were even neater So they helped write these words for the Life is Large hike Oh but they ainbt nothing like you or me They ainbt nothing like Pete Kennedy YAY FOR YAY! Cadence and the Kennedys YAY FOR YAY! Making music for the rocks and trees We all sing and we all play guitar We all wanna be rock and roll stars YAY FOR YAY! I knew a woman, named Cadence Carroll She had a heart full of soul that was as big as a great big barrel Then one day, she said YAY FOR YAY Well, YAY FOR YAY, it really caught on Thatbs why webre all singing this song YAY FOR YAY! Cadence and the Kennedys YAY FOR YAY! Making music for the rocks and trees We all sing and we all play guitar We all wanna be rock and roll stars YAY FOR YAY! I knew a woman, her name was Maura She went off to see the world just like Dora the Explorer Then one day, she met Pete Now theybre living life large and itbs oh so sweet Cause she has big smiles and he has big feet YAY FOR YAY! Cadence and the Kennedys YAY FOR YAY! Making music for the rocks and trees We all sing and we all play guitar We all wanna be rock and roll stars YAY FOR YAY! Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ End of jangle-poets-digest V5 #23 *********************************