From: owner-jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org (jangle-poets-digest) To: jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org Subject: jangle-poets-digest V3 #127 Reply-To: jangle-poets@smoe.org Sender: owner-jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jangle-poets-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jangle-poets-digest Wednesday, August 1 2001 Volume 03 : Number 127 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana ["jvotel" ] Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana [Lami ] [jangle-poets] Giving it back ["jvotel" ] Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana [Fantine729@aol.com] Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana [Harry A Keates ] [jangle-poets] Re: Falcon Ridge Nirvana ["jvotel" ] [jangle-poets] Re: Giving it back [Don Semmens ] Re: [jangle-poets] Re: Falcon Ridge Nirvana [Fantine729@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:05:29 -0500 From: "jvotel" Subject: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana Hey all you Jangle people: The Sunday workshop stage at Falcon Ridge was folkin' excellent with The Nields doing Love Shack with Pete Kennedy on bass, Maura joining in on vocals and none other than John Gorka and Lucy Kaplansky adding harmonies. Almost all my favorites, all at once. Other great moments from that same workshop: - -- Lucy and John singing Return of the Grievous Angel with a stunning, string-bending country pickin' lead by Pete, who ran onto the stage from his groovy clothes boutique after Lucy beckoned. - -- John singing Love is Our Cross to Bear with Lucy backing him, along with the house band. Yeow! - -- Lucy singing Broken Things. It doesn't get much better. These performances were even better than the sets Lucy and John did on the mainstage because they had that spontaneous quality. Plus, with P&M joining in -- that was extra icing on the cake. What a blast. As always, it was good to see J-Ps Conehead and Sheila again. It was our first FRFF and we will definitely return. - -- Jay "Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice." - --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:06:14 -0400 From: Lami Subject: Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana I agree... we set up at the workshop stage Sunday because it was clearly the better place for us to be. I loved the workshops with Dar and the Nields and John Gorka and Jian and Lucy... plus getting Pete and Maura up there was a bonus (if not a big surprise after Saturday night). Shows you what happens when the Kennedys don't get invited to Falcon Ridge :) I wonder if they made more money selling clothes than they would have performing... there seemed to be plenty of performers wearing them. Over on the Nields list I wondered out loud what might come from an actual Nields/Kennedys collaboration along the lines of CryCryCry. Well OK it started out that way and then turned more into a Borg Folk Collective, assimilating other new folk people along the way. But with David Nields not touring it seems like a natural... hell in a year's time Katryna might find it hard to tour... a combination of Pete and Maura and Nerissa and Daves Chalfant and Hower would make a cool band (though I'd prefer Katryna be in there too of course). I know there have been various HaHaHa incarnations... why not make it official so the rest of the world could enjoy it? Lami At 03:05 PM 7/31/01, I received the following from jvotel: >Hey all you Jangle people: >The Sunday workshop stage at Falcon Ridge was folkin' excellent with The > Nields doing Love Shack with Pete Kennedy on bass, Maura joining in on >vocals and none other than John Gorka and Lucy Kaplansky adding >harmonies. Almost all my favorites, all at once. Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:04:21 -0500 From: "jvotel" Subject: [jangle-poets] Giving it back By the way, at Falcon Ridge, The Nields, Dar Williams and others chimed in on the Give it Back campaign, urging the cheering audience to use the tax refund for "something really great" and "something you believe in." Dar mentioned environmental concerns as a worthy cause. This thing is gathering momentum. - -- Jay "Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice." - --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:18:57 EDT From: Fantine729@aol.com Subject: Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana In a message dated 7/31/01 3:05:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, redlami@rway.com writes: << Shows you what happens when the Kennedys don't get invited to Falcon Ridge :) >> Snipped from a post from another list I'm on: << editorial comment.. did any one else think the kennedys were like the people who arent invited to the wedding but come and stay for dinner and dancing..?? hope they gave a generous gift.. >> I thought it was GREAT that The Kennedys were there!! I missed Love Shack (someone had to watch the booth!) and Pete joining Lucy, but have been assured there is a videotape out there with my name on it, so I can't wait!! Peace, Sheila Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:58:02 -0400 From: Harry A Keates Subject: Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana > Snipped from a post from another list I'm on: > > << editorial comment.. did any one else think the kennedys were like the > people who arent invited to the wedding but come and stay for dinner and > dancing..?? > hope they gave a generous gift.. >> I don't agree with this analogy. FRFF is about a community of atists, people who love this music, and family. It was obvious that the artists embraced the Kennedys being there, as did the people who came to the festival, and they are certainly part of this family. For whatever reason they weren't on the official schedule, they very much belong at FRFF, and I hope they appreciate how much everyone enjoyed having them there. That they had the confidence in themselves and their friends to do it is a great thing. - - Harry ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:29:08 -0400 From: Lami Subject: Re: [jangle-poets] Falcon Ridge Nirvana I don't know the detail about why the Kennedys didn't get invited to Falcon Ridge (I know there are more talented people out there than can actually participate)... it looked like the other performers (primarily the Nields) felt that they should have been there and took several opportunities to get them onstage. Now whether this was to convince the FRFF folks to invite them next year, or to expose Pete and Maura to a bigger audience so that they get more popular and thus harder to ignore I obviously don't know either. IMHO their participation only added to the festivity. Falcon Ridge isn't like a wedding, it's like a party where there are people you invite in the hope that having them will encourage other cool people you didn't invite to show up too. The Kennedys gifts of their performance and having one of the most original booths on the "midway" certainly earned them a place and I hope they get invited back next year. Lami Sheila wrote:: >Snipped from a post from another list I'm on: > ><< editorial comment.. did any one else think the kennedys were like the >people who arent invited to the wedding but come and stay for dinner and >dancing..?? >hope they gave a generous gift.. >> > >I thought it was GREAT that The Kennedys were there!! I missed Love Shack >(someone had to watch the booth!) and Pete joining Lucy, but have been >assured there is a videotape out there with my name on it, so I can't wait!! Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:49:27 -0500 From: "jvotel" Subject: [jangle-poets] Re: Falcon Ridge Nirvana I agree with Sheila (and I am curious about the other list she took that comment from). Perhaps she can pass this on to further folk understanding. Having Pete and Maura at Falcon Ridge was incredibly great. Maybe there are people out there who don't realize this, but so far this year Pete and Maura have been invited -- invited -- to share the stage with such legendary performers as John Stewart (World Folk Music Association annual benefit concert), Tom Paxton (Country Roads FF) and Nanci Griffith (Maryland Hall for Performing Arts), among others. It's a tribute to their immense talent and generosity, as well as their standing among some of the greats in the business. WFMA performers don't get paid; TKs were vending at FRFF, so they didn't get paid for performing there. To be called to the stage by people ranging from Tom Paxton to Lucy Kaplansky to John Stewart to the Nields is an honor few people can claim. And this doesn't even begin to tell the story about what TKs have done for some of the struggling artists in folk. These guys have been very fortunate to have had people like Tom Paxton and Danny Gatton and Nanci Griffith share their time, talent and insight with them and the Kennedys feel they have been given an opportunity and indeed a mission to share that same time, insight and talent with others who are coming up. How anyone could criticize that is beyond me. But, as I said earlier, it is probably that they don't know. I could make some justifiably snide commentary about some of what I saw and heard from the mainstage and in other venues at FRFF, but I choose not to. Folk music is a big tent and there's room in it for everyone, even those whose work doesn't really speak to me. Hey, what do I know? I know what I like and I also know that my taste isn't the same as everyone else's. That doesn't make either of us wrong, it just acknowledges that we're different. And that's not only OK, it's one of life's wonderful gifts to us all. But nobody can take anything away from the Kennedys, or even come close. The fact that they were (and are) ubiquitous proves my point. You really can't get too much of such a good thing. - -- Jay "Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice." - --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:19:59 -0400 From: Don Semmens Subject: [jangle-poets] Re: Giving it back At 03:04 PM 7/31/2001 -0500, jvotel@megapipe.net wrote: >By the way, at Falcon Ridge, The Nields, Dar Williams and others chimed >in on the Give it Back campaign, urging the cheering audience to use the > tax refund for "something really great" and "something you believe in." > Dar mentioned environmental concerns as a worthy cause. Yeah, I think Nerissa said something like "give to something you believe in, besides patio furniture." don Albert Einstein was never good at math But he found time down a curving path -- Robbie Schaefer, "Quick" Don Semmens; Richmond, VA; donsem@concentric.net Visit my Regan Site http://www.concentric.net/~donsem/regan.htm Rob Buck Memorial Scholarship Fund http://gottabuck.org/ Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:00:57 EDT From: Fantine729@aol.com Subject: Re: [jangle-poets] Re: Falcon Ridge Nirvana In a message dated 7/31/01 5:10:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jvotel@megapipe.net writes: > I agree with Sheila (and I am curious about the other list she took that > I'm thinking I maybe should have contemplated a bit before sending that snip in. I was a bit indignant and, therefore, hasty. For all I know, I may even have misinterpreted the tone of things. I actually consider the person who said this a friend, and while s/he is not a Kennedys fan (s/he doesn't hate TK -- they're just not huge fans), I have never known him/her to be malicious - -- just opinionated. I might have done well to have taken a deep breath and walked away from the keyboard for a bit. Sometimes I don't think. So, in that light, I'm not going to reveal anything further about the source. As for furthering folk understanding, I will certainly pass Jay's great post along! It was really great seeing you and Nancy there, Jay!! Peace, Sheila Check out the Kennedys' Official Home Page: http://www.KennedysMusic.com/ Fab photos, the Official tour diary, dashboard Buddha haiku, groovy merchandise...what more could you ask for? ------------------------------ End of jangle-poets-digest V3 #127 **********************************