From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V13 #163 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, March 28 2013 Volume 13 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] New Wire Album [Ari ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 05:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire Album I can't comment on you attitude toward the new album as I haven't heard it, except to say 'the only constant is change', and if an artist chooses to continue a theme, change a theme, or go in a new direction that's his/her/their prerogative .It's better than offering the same old same old in new packaging, which by your account they've done, albeit with a new slant. As for 'rudeness' I went to see Dead Can Dance September of last year and when someone (male) in the crowd yelled 'I Love You Brendan' he retorted' Well Fuck You Creep', Artists, like us, don't always feel like 'smooching to the crowd' and have every right to just 'be'...(though in Brendan's case he was 'over the top') I do however feel that wire charge excessively for their product(s) which is why this retired male hasn't purchased their last two offings(I too own pretty much every release but their last 2) much as I'd like to the cost is too much. Ari , >________________________________ > From: "scottkellock@talktalk.net" >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:13 PM >Subject: [idealcopy] New Wire Album > >I've listened to the new album and my 25 quid ltd edition is here. >I own every >Wire release and have been a admirer of the music since 76. I've >seen them >many times and always held them is high esteem and quoted to >people on my >travels that Wire were my favourite band when prompted with >this question by >muso's and friends. > > >I'm really disappointed with it and here is why' > >I went >to see Ruts DC last week and quite frankly when I think of the >attitude now as >an original Punk and what it all stood for and where these >both bands came >from and where they are now. I've finally realised Wire has >treated the loyal >fans quite shitty and seem to be in it now just for the >money. > >Even at the >gigs Newman and Lewis are arrogant with the paying crowd no >banter, no >appreciation in fact they don't even notice we are there, >releasing bootleg >album series etc to make extra cash and then having >already forked out for >Documents vinyl and cd formats they release a new >album with versions of these >tracks. > >Segs and Duffy really know who they are and know who we are and >appreciate >the crowd. The new Ruts DC album cost me a tenner and it has far >better >tracks and is better produced than the latest offering from Wire. >Yes >I'll continue to buy Wire albums as there is a place in my heart for the >music >but as people they are now taking fckg liberties. > >Rant Over ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V13 #163 ********************************