From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V13 #121 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, May 6 2012 Volume 13 : Number 121 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection [markbursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection [Keith Knight ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 16:30:35 +0000 From: markbursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection I have an Abwarts album, but a later one called 'Der westen ist langsam' (The west is slow) from 1982. Quite heavy and Killing Jokeish from what I remember - I'll give it a spin later. I've also got an earlier Abwarts 7in EP. Don't really see them as a German Wire. I'd say SYPH or Fehlfarben are closer in sound; the mighty Palais Schaumburg in concept. Clearly Wire are a massive influence on German NDW. Fehlfarben's Peter Hein put out the ...and here it is again...Wire comp in the '80s. M Sent using BlackBerry. from Orange - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Knight Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:13:39 To: Keith Astbury; Idealcopy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection Come to think of it, I almost certainly heard Abwarts on Peel for the first time, of course. And bought the album in Hamburg, to which I was a regular visitor at the time, as I recall. another the Keith On 5 May 2012, at 17:02, Keith Knight wrote: > I bought Der Western ist Einsam at the time. Fine piece of work, although my recollection is that it is more of a clattering noise than Wire normally do . Haven't played it in years though. > > another the Keith > > On 5 May 2012, at 14:50, Keith wrote: > >> As most of you no doubt know, a list of Peels record collection is going >> on-line - well the first 100 of each letter anyway. >> >> 'A' is now on-line and David Stubbs reviews the albums here... >> >> http://thequietus.com/articles/08697-john-peel-collection-record-review >> >> This part caught my attention - >> >> The Abwarts - Amok Koma / Der Westen Ist Einsam >> More German punk, from 1980 - skinny, relentless, Wire-influenced stuff, with >> a few pre-Neubauten Black & Decker antics thrown in. Peel once warily >> described Wire as "too clever by half" on first hearing them but Abwarts he >> rather liked. And rightly so. >> >> >> >> Anyone into them? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:02:56 +0100 From: Keith Knight Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection I bought Der Western ist Einsam at the time. Fine piece of work, although my recollection is that it is more of a clattering noise than Wire normally do . Haven't played it in years though. another the Keith On 5 May 2012, at 14:50, Keith wrote: > As most of you no doubt know, a list of Peels record collection is going > on-line - well the first 100 of each letter anyway. > > 'A' is now on-line and David Stubbs reviews the albums here... > > http://thequietus.com/articles/08697-john-peel-collection-record-review > > This part caught my attention - > > The Abwarts - Amok Koma / Der Westen Ist Einsam > More German punk, from 1980 - skinny, relentless, Wire-influenced stuff, with > a few pre-Neubauten Black & Decker antics thrown in. Peel once warily > described Wire as "too clever by half" on first hearing them but Abwarts he > rather liked. And rightly so. > > > > Anyone into them? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 23:15:25 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection Yeah, a little bit of Wire there maybe. They seem to have their own Bez! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxR4OHcn5jE - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Keith Knight" ; ; "Keith Astbury" ; "Idealcopy" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection >I have an Abwarts album, but a later one called 'Der westen ist langsam' >(The west is slow) from 1982. Quite heavy and Killing Jokeish from what I >remember - I'll give it a spin later. I've also got an earlier Abwarts 7in >EP. > > Don't really see them as a German Wire. I'd say SYPH or Fehlfarben are > closer in sound; the mighty Palais Schaumburg in concept. Clearly Wire are > a massive influence on German NDW. Fehlfarben's Peter Hein put out the > ...and here it is again...Wire comp in the '80s. > > M > Sent using BlackBerry. from Orange > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Knight > Sender: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:13:39 > To: Keith Astbury; > Idealcopy > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection > > Come to think of it, I almost certainly heard Abwarts on Peel for the > first time, of course. And bought the album in Hamburg, to which I was a > regular visitor at the time, as I recall. > > another the Keith > > > On 5 May 2012, at 17:02, Keith Knight wrote: > >> I bought Der Western ist Einsam at the time. Fine piece of work, >> although my recollection is that it is more of a clattering noise than >> Wire normally do . Haven't played it in years though. >> >> another the Keith >> >> On 5 May 2012, at 14:50, Keith wrote: >> >>> As most of you no doubt know, a list of Peels record collection is going >>> on-line - well the first 100 of each letter anyway. >>> >>> 'A' is now on-line and David Stubbs reviews the albums here... >>> >>> http://thequietus.com/articles/08697-john-peel-collection-record-review >>> >>> This part caught my attention - >>> >>> The Abwarts - Amok Koma / Der Westen Ist Einsam >>> More German punk, from 1980 - skinny, relentless, Wire-influenced stuff, >>> with >>> a few pre-Neubauten Black & Decker antics thrown in. Peel once warily >>> described Wire as "too clever by half" on first hearing them but Abwarts >>> he >>> rather liked. And rightly so. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyone into them? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:13:39 +0100 From: Keith Knight Subject: Re: [idealcopy] John Peel Record Collection Come to think of it, I almost certainly heard Abwarts on Peel for the first time, of course. And bought the album in Hamburg, to which I was a regular visitor at the time, as I recall. another the Keith On 5 May 2012, at 17:02, Keith Knight wrote: > I bought Der Western ist Einsam at the time. Fine piece of work, although my recollection is that it is more of a clattering noise than Wire normally do . Haven't played it in years though. > > another the Keith > > On 5 May 2012, at 14:50, Keith wrote: > >> As most of you no doubt know, a list of Peels record collection is going >> on-line - well the first 100 of each letter anyway. >> >> 'A' is now on-line and David Stubbs reviews the albums here... >> >> http://thequietus.com/articles/08697-john-peel-collection-record-review >> >> This part caught my attention - >> >> The Abwarts - Amok Koma / Der Westen Ist Einsam >> More German punk, from 1980 - skinny, relentless, Wire-influenced stuff, with >> a few pre-Neubauten Black & Decker antics thrown in. Peel once warily >> described Wire as "too clever by half" on first hearing them but Abwarts he >> rather liked. And rightly so. >> >> >> >> Anyone into them? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 01:41:39 +0100 From: "Scott" Subject: [idealcopy] French Film (Blurred) I'm a 50 year old man, ( Mark E Smith) Here's my version of how this should be played (Well nearly "If I could sing) Anyway Check it out and Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV7NH1K4FDs Scott ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V13 #121 ********************************