From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V11 #172 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, December 5 2009 Volume 11 : Number 172 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] CULTURE SHOW ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] CULTURE SHOW [] Re: [idealcopy] CULTURE SHOW ["Keith" ] [idealcopy] Postpunksampler ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler [uri.b@talktalk.net] Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler ["Bruno Clements" Subject: [idealcopy] CULTURE SHOW Pretty good interview with John Lydon on last night's Culture Show. The rehearsal clips didn't exactly leave me feeling gutted that I wasn't going to see them, mind. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 9:57:42 +0000 From: Subject: Re: [idealcopy] CULTURE SHOW Think I feel the same Keith - and was by pure fluke that I actually saw the PiL feature. Loved the extract of Poptones at low speed, and the accompanying story - ---- Keith wrote: > Pretty good interview with John Lydon on last night's Culture Show. > > The rehearsal clips didn't exactly leave me feeling gutted that I wasn't going > to see them, mind. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 10:51:52 -0000 From: "Keith" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] CULTURE SHOW > Loved the extract of Poptones at low speed Yeah it sounded great, didn't it. Sure I must have made that mistake back then, too!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:22:52 -0000 From: "Keith" Subject: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler For those of you who aren't on PF, I've posted this here asit may be of interest... Julian Cope writes about his album of the month on his website. Sometimes it's some longhaired nonsense that I have no interest in, sometimes it's something that I fancy the sound of and listen to the streaming. In the case of a couple - - aging (and now sadly deceased) soul singer Nathanial Mayer and French band The Gunslingers (imagine Teenage Jesus as a speed metal act!) - I've had to buy them. Occasionally, these albums don't exist other than in the Cope household, and this months Postpunksampler is such a thing. I've got to admit that apart from the more obvious tracks by the likes of Subway Sect, Richard Hell, Dalek I, Swellmaps, Wild Swans, etc, there's a lot of things here I've never heard. Or even heard of! Tracklisting is... Metal Urbain - Paris Maquis (3.07) Zounds - Can't Cheat Karma (2.42) Subway Sect - Ambition (3.10) Richard Hell & the Void-Oids - Liars Beware (2.52) Germs - Forming (3.08) 39 Clocks - Aspetando Godo (3.53) Missing Presumed Dead - Family Tree (2.11) Manicured Noise - Faith (3.30) Jane Aire & the Belvederes - Yankee Wheels (3.05) Dance Party - Photograph (3.05) Dum Dum Dum - Dum Dum Dum (2.57) Crass - Mother Earth (4.12) Friction - Crazy Dream (4.23) Hair & Skin Trading Co. - Monkies (3.24) Electric Eels - Accident (3.22) Chaingang - Son of Sam (3.09) Swell Maps - Read About Seymour (1.27) The Sods - Transport (2.55) Reptile Ranch - Saying Goodbye (3.05) Dalek I Love You - Trapped (3.59) Colours Out Of Time - As In Another World (3.34) Wild Swans - Now You're Perfect (3.15) Armand Schaubroeuk - Buried Alive (1.43) Psycho Surgeons - Horizontal Action (1.47) D.M.Z. - Bad Attitude (2.57) E.S.G. - UFO (2.33) Gaz Chambers - Who's Life Is It Anyway? (11.12) So, no Wire, but they do get a couple of mentions. Not exactly complimentary unfortunately... "Even the archetypal Rent-a-Punks of Wire with their stupid loudmouth bassist entirely ditched the 80mph ramalama of their debut LP PINK FLAG, instead delivering for 1978 an album of extremely noise-some and mid-to-slow tempo material entitled CHAIRS MISSING, a record so devoid of the '1-2-X-U' knuckle-head crowd-pleasers of the previous LP that the band's 1978 shows often enraged the new Punk Rocker hordes greedy for more of the PINK FLAG-stylee; fucking heck, this was not THE RAMONES LEAVE HOME. But then, underneath it all, Wire were precisely the art school types that the revisionists so detested - hell, even back in '77, their ex-art teacher guitarist Bruce Gilbert had already reached the grand age of thirty-one!" Think he's doing PF a bit of a disservice obviously, but there's some interesting stuff on the compilation all the same. You can read the full account and listen to it here... http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/albumofthemonth/2068/ Enjoy!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:16:58 -0500 From: uri.b@talktalk.net Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler What an eclectic collection! Interesting to see Crass on there. Not much said about them on the IC. A very different take on music to that of wire but equally punk. I saw them a few times and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. I once saw them at the Moonlight club in West Hampstead which was within spitting distance of the Acol Bridge club. A friend of my mother's happened to come out the club as the gig ended and was horrified/terrified to see the very 'distinctive' crowd emerge. She told my mother who admitted that her son was there. :) - -----Original Message----- From: Keith To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 12:22 Subject: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler For those of you who aren't on PF, I've posted this here asit may be of interest... Julian Cope writes about his album of the month on his website. Sometimes it's some longhaired nonsense that I have no interest in, sometimes it's something that I fancy the sound of and listen to the streaming. In the case of a couple - - aging (and now sadly deceased) soul singer Nathanial Mayer and French band The Gunslingers (imagine Teenage Jesus as a speed metal act!) - I've had to buy them. Occasionally, these albums don't exist other than in the Cope household, and this months Postpunksampler is such a thing. I've got to admit that apart from the more obvious tracks by the likes of Subway Sect, Richard Hell, Dalek I, Swellmaps, Wild Swans, etc, there's a lot of things here I've never heard. Or even heard of! Tracklisting is... Metal Urbain - Paris Maquis (3.07) Zounds - - Can't Cheat Karma (2.42) Subway Sect - Ambition (3.10) Richard Hell & the Void-Oids - Liars Beware (2.52) Germs - Forming (3.08) 39 Clocks - Aspetando Godo (3.53) Missing Presumed Dead - Family Tree (2.11) Manicured Noise - Faith (3.30) Jane Aire & the Belvederes - Yankee Wheels (3.05) Dance Party - Photograph (3.05) Dum Dum Dum - Dum Dum Dum (2.57) Crass - Mother Earth (4.12) Friction - Crazy Dream (4.23) Hair & Skin Trading Co. - Monkies (3.24) Electric Eels - Accident (3.22) Chaingang - Son of Sam (3.09) Swell Maps - Read About Seymour (1.27) The Sods - Transport (2.55) Reptile Ranch - Saying Goodbye (3.05) Dalek I Love You - Trapped (3.59) Colours Out Of Time - As In Another World (3.34) Wild Swans - Now You're Perfect (3.15) Armand Schaubroeuk - - Buried Alive (1.43) Psycho Surgeons - Horizontal Action (1.47) D.M.Z. - Bad Attitude (2.57) E.S.G. - UFO (2.33) Gaz Chambers - Who's Life Is It Anyway? (11.12) So, no Wire, but they do get a couple of mentions. Not exactly complimentary unfortunately... "Even the archetypal Rent-a-Punks of Wire with their stupid loudmouth bassist entirely ditched the 80mph ramalama of their debut LP PINK FLAG, instead delivering for 1978 an album of extremely noise-some and mid-to-slow tempo material entitled CHAIRS MISSING, a record so devoid of the '1-2-X-U' knuckle-head crowd-pleasers of the previous LP that the band's 1978 shows often enraged the new Punk Rocker hordes greedy for more of the PINK FLAG-stylee; fucking heck, this was not THE RAMONES LEAVE HOME. But then, underneath it all, Wire were precisely the art school types that the revisionists so detested - hell, even back in '77, their ex-art teacher guitarist Bruce Gilbert had already reached the grand age of thirty-one!" Think he's doing PF a bit of a disservice obviously, but there's some interesting stuff on the compilation all the same. You can read the full account and listen to it here... http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/albumofthemonth/2068/ Enjoy!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:42:58 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler Well now young Keith - I hope you have heard of Metal Urbain. Terrific punk band back in the day. Paris Maquis is a classic and I have a rare single copy which I treasure.I like the compilation overall. must dig out that Dalek I Love You lp. NP Appliance - Food Music EP (Remember them from the Brighton gig? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:07:46 -0000 From: "Bruno Clements" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler Pretty sure I had the Paris Maquis 7-inch as well, though memory plays tricks as you get older (where did those This Head LPs ever go to?)... I certainly had Yankee Wheels, though I think that was fairly lightweight stuff. Fun though. Bruno - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler > Well now young Keith - I hope you have heard of Metal Urbain. Terrific > punk > band back in the day. Paris Maquis is a classic and I have a rare single > copy which I treasure.I like the compilation overall. must dig out that > Dalek I Love You lp. > > NP Appliance - Food Music EP (Remember them from the Brighton gig? This email has been scanned for viruses and other threats using Newsquest's Ironport email filters. This document is private and confidential. All property, copyright and other rights in it and its contents belong to Newsquest Media GroupLimited. It must not be read, copied, disclosed or otherwise used without Newsquestbs authorisation. Newsquest may exercise its legal rights and remedies in the event of any such unauthorised use. Newsquest Media Group Limited. Registered in England, number 3105111. Registered office: 58 Church Street, Weybridge, Surrey KT13 8DP. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 15:00:46 -0000 From: "Bruno Clements" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler Brain cells are going - This Heat, that should have read... or was that Talking Heats?!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruno Clements" To: ; Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler > Pretty sure I had the Paris Maquis 7-inch as well, though memory plays > tricks as you get older (where did those This Head LPs ever go to?)... I > certainly had Yankee Wheels, though I think that was fairly lightweight > stuff. Fun though. > > Bruno > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler > > >> Well now young Keith - I hope you have heard of Metal Urbain. Terrific >> punk >> band back in the day. Paris Maquis is a classic and I have a rare single >> copy which I treasure.I like the compilation overall. must dig out that >> Dalek I Love You lp. >> >> NP Appliance - Food Music EP (Remember them from the Brighton gig? > This email has been scanned for viruses and other threats using > Newsquest's > Ironport email filters. > > This document is private and confidential. > All property, copyright and other rights in it and its contents belong to > Newsquest Media GroupLimited. > It must not be read, copied, disclosed or otherwise used without > Newsquestbs > authorisation. Newsquest may exercise its legal rights and remedies in the > event of any such unauthorised use. > > Newsquest Media Group Limited. > Registered in England, number 3105111. > Registered office: 58 Church Street, Weybridge, Surrey KT13 8DP. This email has been scanned for viruses and other threats using Newsquest's Ironport email filters. This document is private and confidential. All property, copyright and other rights in it and its contents belong to Newsquest Media GroupLimited. It must not be read, copied, disclosed or otherwise used without Newsquestbs authorisation. Newsquest may exercise its legal rights and remedies in the event of any such unauthorised use. Newsquest Media Group Limited. Registered in England, number 3105111. Registered office: 58 Church Street, Weybridge, Surrey KT13 8DP. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:32:02 -0500 From: markbursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler >>Colours Out Of Time - As In Another World (3.34<< Now there's a lost band. Didn't know they came from Crewe! Two excellent singles, and gone. First is very factory wanabe (the title alone - Dancing with Joy - says a lot). Second single She Spins is excellent Manc psych affair. Accuracy not Copey forte - they use the American 'Colors'. Now I'd love to hear the Peel session that Copey has... >>"Even the archetypal Rent-a-Punks of Wire with their stupid loudmouth bassist<< Now therein lies a tale... wonder when that great meeting of minds occurred? Not a happy one, by the sound of it! Suspect JC had the epithet "stupid loudmouth bassist" turned on himself more than a few times! M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:39:54 -0500 From: markbursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler I actually picked up the Dr Mix and the Remix CD the other day - one of the two Metal Urbain spinoffs. Sleeve notes reveal that the MU career was derailed when a roadie left their drum machine on the pavement after a gig! They refored a couple of years back and did a new album. Much the same as before. May still be going... M - -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Clements To: CHRISWIRE@aol.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 14:07 Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler Pretty sure I had the Paris Maquis 7-inch as well, though memory plays ricks as you get older (where did those This Head LPs ever go to?)... I ertainly had Yankee Wheels, though I think that was fairly lightweight tuff. Fun though. Bruno - ----- Original Message ----- rom: o: ; ent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:42 PM ubject: Re: [idealcopy] Postpunksampler Well now young Keith - I hope you have heard of Metal Urbain. Terrific punk band back in the day. Paris Maquis is a classic and I have a rare single copy which I treasure.I like the compilation overall. must dig out that Dalek I Love You lp. NP Appliance - Food Music EP (Remember them from the Brighton gig? his email has been scanned for viruses and other threats using Newsquest's ronport email filters. 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