From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V11 #157 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, November 2 2009 Volume 11 : Number 157 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Colin Tortoise on BBC [Creatured ] Re: [idealcopy] liam maher RIP [PAUL RABJOHN ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:57:46 -0800 (PST) From: Creatured Subject: [idealcopy] Colin Tortoise on BBC This is on dimeadozen at the moment and possibly on The Box, I haven't checked there. Wire's Colin Newman and Tortoise collaborate in a session for BBC Radio 3's Late Junction broadcasted on 15th october 2009 recorded at Maida Vale studio on 26th August 2009 1 untitled 1 3'24" 2 untitled 2 5'47" 3 untitled 3 4'24" 4 untitled 4 6'35" 5 untitled 5 4'32" 6 interview 2'45" More from Thrill Jockey: When Tortoise and Colin Newman, two heavy-weights of underground music, went into the studio no one quite knew what to expect, but when the day was over both parties felt that the session had been amazingly productive and agreed that the resulting recording was something to be proud of. Here's what Dan Bitney from Tortoise and Colin Newman had to say... DAN: "This experiment could have gone wrong in so many ways, trying to basically improvise with someone you've never played with before...sometimes it just doesn't happen even with people you're used to playing with! I'm really happy with what we came up with. Colin was great to work with and I find it refreshing to make recordings that aren't 'fixed' with hours of editing, more of a 'that's what happened' recording experience." COLIN: "What I can say is this. I don't think here was any way in which anyone could have predicted if this would work or not, the approach was to expect zero that way disappointment would be best avoided! However, in truth it came out way better than anyone had a right to expect. The pieces are not developed, mainly taken after a single or no run through and mixed on the fly but there is enough in their basic energy to make one wonder if this is a project which may well have a life beyond the confines of a single visit to the BBC studios in Maida Vale.... A couple of the tunes have refused to vacate my 'internal walkman'.." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 16:20:52 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] liam maher RIP you can buy all of their stuff ultra cheap , the natural habitat of FU records being the dump bin. i would also recommend the VHS live video , recorded on a budget of about #50 and showing an incredibly bored looking band (plus Barney) going thru the motions somewhere or other. mine was fine value at a quid. p ________________________________ From: Tim Cc: PAUL RABJOHN ; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, 1 November, 2009 3:51:12 Subject: Re: [idealcopy] liam maher RIP They didn't stand a chance really coming out with what was basically very easily labelled as cockney version of Happy Mondays. But I remember being quite smitten with their debut 'It's On' I recall an excellent BBC live session which showcased them tunes far better than their album which suffers from a very clean overproduction with General Midi preset keyboard sounds almost obscuring the energy of their live show. Weekender was very promising indeed and had they come up with an album response to Britpop they could have cleaned up and wiped out the likes of Menswear. Alas that last track for Heavenly is kind of Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine meets Gary Clail..very 1991 (for 1994) and hints at why they faded from view. Go on Spotify and hear "Take It" which is probably the closet anyone really got to mixing House Music and Rock...until The Klaxons started that particular ball rolling again. PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > sad to read that Liam Maher , singer of Flowered Up , died last week. now i > know they were dismissed in certain (cruel) quarters as cockernee chancers , > but i always thought when they got it right (like "Weekender" and a few of the > tracks on the album) they were quite something. sadly i fear they did not have > the TSB Rockschool workaholic attitude of modern landfill indie types. also > they were about as likely to get a workmanlike tour organised as they were to > get nominated as spokespersons for a "Just Say No" campaign. sadly these > things conspired against them , and even the help of their onstage cheerleader > Barney Mooncult (imagine Bez dressed up as a giant flower , just possibly a > little "well refreshed") couldn't get them the recognition they certainly > thought they deserved. > > they don't make indie bands like that these days. and > here's their final track (unreleased) to silence any doubters. or something > like that.... > > www.twitter.com/heavenlyrecs > > p ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V11 #157 ********************************