From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V11 #26 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, February 9 2009 Volume 11 : Number 026 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] o.t/cancer [Jon Whitney ] [idealcopy] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Howard_Devoto_on_Magazine's_reunion?= ["keith ] Re: [idealcopy] o.t/cancer [eardrumbuz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:09:25 -0500 From: Jon Whitney Subject: Re: [idealcopy] o.t/cancer fyi http://www.hoax-slayer.com/plastic-cancer-link-hoax.html (and it's Johns Hopkins) On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Ari wrote: > Cancer update from John Hopkins > > This is good information. Please read it all the way to the end. > > Cancer Update from John Hopkins > > This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. > > No plastic containers in microwave. > > No water bottles in freezer. > > No plastic wrap in mic rowave. > > A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer. > > Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic > bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.. > > Recently, Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital , > was on a TV program to explain this health hazard. > He talked about dioxins and how bad they ar e for us. > > He said that we should not be heating our food in the > microwave using plastic containers.. . > > This especially applies to foods that contain fat. > > He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body... Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food... You get the same results, only without the dioxin . So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Cornin g Ware, etc. > He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons... > Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead. > This is an article that should be sent > To anyone important in your life! > > Bottled water in your car is very dangerous. > > This is how Sheryl Crow got breast cancer. ;She was on the Ellen show and said this same exact thing. This has been identified as the most common cause of the high levels in breast cancer, especially in Australia . > > A friend whose mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and the Doctor told her: women should not drink bottled water that has been left in a car. > > The doctor said that the heat and the plastic of the bottle have certain chemicals that can lead t o breast cancer. So please be careful and do not drink bottled water that has been left in a car, and, pass this on to all the women in your life. This information is the kind we need to know and be aware and just might save us! The heat causes toxins from the plastic to leak into the water and they have found these toxins in breast tissue. Use a stainless steel Canteen or a glass bottle when you can! > > LET EVERYONE WHO HAS A WIFE / GIRLFRIEND / DAUGHTER KNOW PLEASE. > - -- Brainwashed Inc: brainwashed.com | Brainwashed Recordings | Killer Pimp Music | Brainwaves 2008 Festival P.O. Box 7 / Arlington, MA 02476 / USA streaming radio  podcasts  reviews  store  music fests ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:07:17 -0000 From: "keith a" Subject: [idealcopy] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Howard_Devoto_on_Magazine's_reunion?= http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/ed04f6f4-f3db-11dd-9c4b-0000779fd2ac.html Howard Devoto on Magazines reunion By Ian Shuttleworth Published: February 6 2009 23:00 | Last updated: February 6 2009 23:00 I am angry, I am ill and Im as ugly as sin is one of the greatest opening lines in rock music. The rest of A Song from under the Floorboards lives up to its promise and is more-over a magnificent four-minute distillation of Dostoevskys Notes from Underground. The band behind the song, Magazine, were to a large extent responsible for delineating the genre of post-punk in the late 1970s. Though they never really troubled the mainstream charts, they were held in high esteem both at the time and since by rock cognoscenti, and have been described by Radio 2s Jeremy Vine as the most criminally underrated band in the past 25 years of British pop. The news that the group was to reform for a handful of concerts, after more than a quarter of a century apart, resulted in middle-youth versions of hysteria in some quarters. The classic line-up comprises bassist Barry Adamson (subsequently one of Nick Caves Bad Seeds and now a brooding, compelling solo artist), keyboardist Dave Formula (later one of the iminences grises behind new romantic act Visage), drummer John Doyle and, of course, vocalist/lyricist Howard Devoto. (Guitarist John McGeoch, who went on to help define the 1980s sounds of Siouxsie and the Banshees and Public Image Limited, died in 2004. His place is taken in the reunion by Noko, Devotos partner in his late 1980s venture Luxuria, who is to duplicate McGeochs musical hardware in an effort to reproduce his sound.) In fact, Devoto played a big role in kick-starting significant strains of both punk and the indie ethic. In 1976, students Howard Trafford and Peter McNeish organised two now-legendary concerts by the Sex Pistols at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in Manchester. Some of the audience members would go on to form the Fall, the Smiths, Joy Division and Factory Records. By the second gig, Trafford and McNeish had become Howard Devoto and Pete Shelley, the driving forces behind the Buzzcocks, who shortly afterwards released a self-pressed EP, Spiral Scratch. By early 1977, though, Devoto had left the Buzzcocks and set about forming a new group. The astringent, sometimes forbidding figure of the 1970s seems some way from the relaxed 56-year-old who met me recently in a London studio, although now as then he seldom offers more by way of answer than is strictly required: Sometimes somebody will hit a thing that makes me slightly garrulous, he offers, and sometimes it can be just the mood or time of day. One of Devotos achievements, I suggest to him, was combining literacy with harder-edged music. Until Magazine came along, serious music fans largely had to content themselves with various bedsit singer-songwriters, and it was pioneering to put that kind of literary awareness in harness with music that rocked. Devoto disagrees: David Bowie rocked! And he did chuck a bit of intellectual baggage around, dont you think? Yes, I argue, but he never turned Dostoevsky into a song or had an extract from Proust read over the intro to a song. Devoto plays down that aspect now: I think it all started with a press release that I did for Spiral Scratch, just one page of A4 where I mentioned Camus, maybe Sartre, and whats-his-name, never know how to say his name ...  (it transpires he means JK Huysmans). But I think that set something up that I kind of had to try and live up to for a long time. I did connect with Proust quite a lot, but [putting a passage into a song] was an element of me thinking, OK, thats a bit of a laugh and a slap and tickle.  Even A Song from under the Floorboards is shrugged off with a modest a good opening line always helps. The Magazine reunion, he says, is largely a matter of happenstance. Dave Formula is at the hub of it, as hes doing a solo album, and John Doyle is playing on one track, Barry on another, Ive co-written one track and am singing on it, so he was in touch with us all. A promoter approached him to ask if he was going to be promoting the album, then phoned him back a week later with this tentative There isnt any chance, is there ... ? sort of thing. Dave called us, and I guess the time was right for all of us. We did have a bit of an attempt about three years ago but at that time I still had my proper job, so it didnt feel like a very realistic proposition at the time. But we sounded good, he chuckles. (He chuckles a lot.) The proper job he refers to was as archivist/librarian in a photo agency, a post he held for some 15 years after his semi-retirement from the music scene around 1990. Every so often during that period a record would appear with Devoto involvement  a bonus track or two by the band Mansun, a gnomic joint album with Pete Shelley entitled Buzzkunst in 2001  but for the most part he seemed as removed as the version of himself in cult songwriter Momuss cheeky tribute number The Most Important Man Alive, inspired by a headline in the NME magazine. Thats one hell of a label to be given but Devoto protests: It was the sub-editors piece of pure mischief! The actual article had nothing more in it than a remark like, Magazine and The Motors  remember them?  are producing some of the most important music around at the moment. But its nice to play with it mischievously occasionally. Despite Nokos presence, the Magazine concerts will include neither Luxuria material nor any songs from his recently reissued 1983 solo album Jerky Versions of the Dream, which he wryly describes as my Self Portrait album  thats a Bob Dylan career reference. The reunion, he maintains, will simply be what it says on the box. And after all this time, with (when we spoke) a fortnight to go before the first concert, how was the band dynamic shaping up? Ive no idea. We havent had a full band rehearsal yet. Itll be fine! Altogether more relaxed than his younger self. And that opening line from Floorboards is now available as a T-shirt slogan. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:04:40 -0500 From: eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] o.t/cancer While it may not be the best idea to microwave in plastic when glass is an easy alternative, the bulk of that "John Hopkins" update is an internet hoax going back a number of years. It looked somewhat legit at first, because I had heard from various sources to choose glass over plastic for microwave use, but when I got to the part about water bottles in cars, I knew it was a fake. That was one of those urban legends meant to scare women. Snopes has an article on the dioxin myth: http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cookplastic.asp and I'm sure there's one about the water bottles in cars, too. Still, why not just nuke the leftovers in corningware anyway, right? - -another the Paul - -----Original Message----- From: Ari To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 2:47 pm Subject: [idealcopy] o.t/cancer Cancer update from John Hopkins This is good information. Please read it all the way to the end. Cancer Update from John Hopkins This information is being circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well. No plastic containers in microwave. No water bottles in freezer. No plastic wrap in mic rowave. A dioxin chemical causes cancer, especially breast cancer. Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of our bodies. Don't freeze your plastic bottles with water in them as this releases dioxins from the plastic.. Recently, Edward Fujimoto, Wellness Program Manager at Castle Hospital , was on a TV program to explain this health hazard. He talked about dioxins and how bad they ar e for us. He said that we should not be heating our food in the microwave using plastic containers.. . This especially applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body... Instead, he recommends using glass, such as Corning Ware, Pyrex or ceramic containers for heating food... You get the same results, only without the dioxin . So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't bad but you don't know what is in the paper. It's just safer to use tempered glass, Cornin g Ware, etc. He reminded us that a while ago some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the foam containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of the reasons... Also, he pointed out that plastic wrap, such as Saran, is just as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the plastic wrap and drip into the food. Cover food with a paper towel instead. This is an article that should be sent To anyone important in your life! Bottled water in your car is very dangerous. This is how Sheryl Crow got breast cancer. ;She was on the Ellen show and said this same exact thing. This has been identified as the most common cause of the high levels in breast cancer, especially in Australia . A friend whose mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer and the Doctor told her: women should not drink bottled water that has been left in a car. The doctor said that the heat and the plastic of the bottle have certain chemicals that can lead t o breast cancer. So please be careful and do not drink bottled water that has been left in a car, and, pass this on to all the women in your life. This information is the kind we need to know and be aware and just might save us! The heat causes toxins from the plastic to leak into the water and they have found these toxins in breast tissue. Use a stainless steel Canteen or a glass bottle when you can! LET EVERYONE WHO HAS A WIFE / GIRLFRIEND / DAUGHTER KNOW PLEASE. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V11 #26 *******************************