From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #522 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, November 13 2008 Volume 10 : Number 522 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] 80s remixes questions ["Mitchell Dickerman" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:52:56 -0500 From: "Mitchell Dickerman" Subject: [idealcopy] 80s remixes questions Reading the Daytripper comments, Colin mentioned a single version of "Silk Skin Paws". Whaaa? So I pulled it out and sure enough, it's quite different. That led me to review the Wireviews discography and load up all the remixes I could find from my racks. I had completely forgotten how different the original "German Shepherds" was! Some unresolved issues from the discography: Ahead (7" version) - is this really unique? I don't know how long it is. Ahead (LP version) is 4:59, Ahead (alternate version) is 3:29. Ahead (12" version) - is this really unique? It's 5:01 according to Freedb vs 4:59 for the LP version. Silk Skin Paws (12" remix) - other sources label this as "full length version"; sounds just like the LP version to me. It's 4:47 according to Freedb vs. 4:53 for the LP version. In Vivo (12" mix) - is this the same as the "Club mix" found on _Coatings_? It's 6:36 according to Freedb while the "Club mix" is 6:29. I haven't been able to track these down and would love an MP3 copy (happy to pay Colin $2 as well!): Illuminated (12" mix) - 5:36 according to Freedb. Definitely unique compared to 6:52 for the LP version and 4:15 for the 7" mix. Stillbird - Exceprts from "Drill". Thanks, Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:40:16 +0000 (GMT) From: PAUL RABJOHN Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 80s remixes questions i'll add in my thoughts (not at home to refer to the records though)..... Ahead (7" version) - is this really unique? I don't know how long it is. Ahead (LP version) is 4:59, Ahead (alternate version) is 3:29. ////// yes i'm sure it's a much shorter version on the 7" Ahead (12" version) - is this really unique? It's 5:01 according to Freedb vs 4:59 for the LP version. ////// i think the 12" is the LP version Silk Skin Paws (12" remix) - other sources label this as "full length version"; sounds just like the LP version to me. It's 4:47 according to Freedb vs. 4:53 for the LP version. /////// i thought the 12" was a new version (it came out quite a bit later than the album) In Vivo (12" mix) - is this the same as the "Club mix" found on _Coatings_? It's 6:36 according to Freedb while the "Club mix" is 6:29. //////the 12" mix is a longer , vocal version whereas that "club mix" is mostly instrumental I haven't been able to track these down and would love an MP3 copy (happy to pay Colin $2 as well!): Illuminated (12" mix) - 5:36 according to Freedb. Definitely unique compared to 6:52 for the LP version and 4:15 for the 7" mix. Stillbird - Exceprts from "Drill". ////// lots of little pieces from "The Drill" as a sort of sampler even rarer , take a look at these i found on Discogs. anyone got or heard either of these? http://www.discogs.com/release/538999 http://www.discogs.com/release/1219730 i'd never been aware of either of these before. i presume the 2nd one is what was going to appear on the unreleased "big glue canal 12" (one of the ultimate wire rarities?) always a new rarity to frustrate ;-) p Thanks, Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:58:20 -0500 From: "Mitchell Dickerman" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 80s remixes questions Paul - thanks for clearing that up. I found my _In Vivo_ CD3 which took care of few more things. Some more observations: "Silk Skin Paws (full length version)" is slightly different than the LP version - it's not as bright sounding, but other than that I can't really hear a significant difference. "In Vivo (12" version)" vs "In Vivo (Dance remix)" - it sounds like the 12" version simply fades 45 seconds earlier than the Dance remix. Oh, and the the 7" version of "Life In The Manscape" sounds better than the LP version to my ears! Mitch On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:40 AM, PAUL RABJOHN wrote: > i'll add in my thoughts (not at home to refer to the records though)..... > > > > Ahead (7" version) - is this really unique? I don't know how long it is. > Ahead (LP version) is 4:59, Ahead (alternate version) is 3:29. > ////// yes i'm sure it's a much shorter version on the 7" > > Ahead (12" version) - is this really unique? It's 5:01 according to Freedb > vs 4:59 for the LP version. > > ////// i think the 12" is the LP version > > Silk Skin Paws (12" remix) - other sources label this as "full length > version"; sounds just like the LP version to me. It's 4:47 according to > Freedb vs. 4:53 for the LP version. > > /////// i thought the 12" was a new version (it came out quite a bit later > than the album) > > In Vivo (12" mix) - is this the same as the "Club mix" found on _Coatings_? > It's 6:36 according to Freedb while the "Club mix" is 6:29. > > //////the 12" mix is a longer , vocal version whereas that "club mix" is > mostly instrumental > > I haven't been able to track these down and would love an MP3 copy (happy > to > pay Colin $2 as well!): > > Illuminated (12" mix) - 5:36 according to Freedb. Definitely unique > compared > to 6:52 for the LP version and 4:15 for the 7" mix. > > Stillbird - Exceprts from "Drill". > > ////// lots of little pieces from "The Drill" as a sort of sampler > > even rarer , take a look at these i found on Discogs. anyone got or heard > either of these? > > http://www.discogs.com/release/538999 > > http://www.discogs.com/release/1219730 > > i'd never been aware of either of these before. i presume the 2nd one is > what was going to appear on the unreleased "big glue canal 12" (one of the > ultimate wire rarities?) > > always a new rarity to frustrate ;-) p > > Thanks, > Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:43:02 -0800 From: "johnny clash" Subject: [idealcopy] ari and the slits y3lp bootleg too? ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #522 ********************************