From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #509 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, October 29 2008 Volume 10 : Number 509 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Chrome [Ian B ] [idealcopy] Wire in SF, 10/15 ["Cambra, Robert" Subject: Re: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Chrome I'd have to chime in and say that Half Machine Lip Moves is well worth seeking out if it's not already on your Alien Soundtracks CD. In my opinion the better of the two albums, much as I love AS. The last remnants of any kind of 'hippyness' have been blasted away leaving only the violent nihgtmarish stuff. The first album Visitation is a curio only for it's dramatic difference to what came after. Red Exposure contains some great stuff but seems a little antiseptic compared with AS and HMLM. I still love the single 'New Age' which I first heard in Virgin Records when it had just come out. Wouldn't happen these days. The Read Only Memory ep is worth seeking out. Don't be tempted by Alien SOundtracks 2. It's utter rubbish, as, I have to say, is much 'Damon-only' Chrome as well as much of his solo stuff. He was just cranking the stuff out for a while, under the names 'Chrome' and 'Damon Edge.' Quality control took a back seat. Haven't heard much from when Helios took up the mantle after Damon's death > > From: Eric Klaver > Date: 2008/10/28 Tue AM 03:39:28 GMT > To: Tim > CC: Ideal Copy > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Chrome > > Chrome and the "solo" stuff by Damon Edge is excellent stuff. I > presume your CD is the one packaged with "Half Machine Lip Moves". > Well worth the entry fee. > > This was the first track I heard by them and I was hooked. > > Preview here - (Note the recommended tracks below). > > http://www.last.fm/music/Chrome/Blood%2Bon%2Bthe%2BMoon%2B%2526% > 2BEternity/Inner+Vacume > or > > http://tinyurl.com/6kg4n8 > > album here: > > http://www.last.fm/music/Chrome/Blood%2Bon%2Bthe%2BMoon%2B%2526% > 2BEternity > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/5fojpl > > best, > > Eric > > > On 27-Oct-08, at 11:14 PM, Tim wrote: > > Just listening to Alien Soundtracks by Chrome which I picked up > recently. > Fantastic record, I've never seen or heard any mention of this band > anywhere other than on idealcopy. > Is this as good as they got or are there other records I should seek > out? > - ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:55:57 -0700 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in SF, 10/15 It was great to see Wire again (has it been only four years?) and for so many reasons. I've been with the list since it was four months old and got to meet another copyist for the first time and be part of an IC Massive. Finally! Rick, it was a pleasure to meet you. I have to concur with your report in all the details. The mood was funny but cheerful on stage. Being in front of Colin with four audience members between us made it a very intimate performance. I had to look back once in a while to remind myself I was in a large crowd and not my private show. "Underwater Experiences" was a surprise. A very interesting one. I had a bit of a flashback while they were playing "Boiling Boy," vividly remembering it as a high point of the show when they played this same venue in 1988. When they played only new material. Twenty years ago. . . . I am so grateful that a band I fell for 29 years ago is still entirely valid, and as I gently slide into geezerhood that they give me a reason to jump up and down like a fool and yell, things like "The smell of you!" An excellent performance. Four encores! Yeah, hope Githead can make it here sometime soon. And thanks to Graham (Lewis) for identifying the between band music. King Tubby has been my Pandora.com station of choice since and I'm loving it. Never have to skip a tune. Robert (another) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:22:09 -0700 From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in SF, 10/15 Hey all~ Just wanted to pass on some thoughts about Wire's show at the Fillmore in San Francisco this past Wednesday. ~ The warm up act (Love Republic I think) wasn't too bad although a real mish-mash of sounds that by turns had me thinking of Stereolab, MoB, prog and jazz thrown into a blender with a bunch of LSD and mixed thoroughly. Decent musicians but very unfocused and kind of jam-oriented. According to a waitress, their bassist (a cute 20-something gal) works for the Fillmore, so they had a good number of local fans to support them. ~ There were enough iPhones & Blackberries taking photos to give Robert Fripp an apoplexy! ~ Wire started pretty much on time and all of the band seemed in pretty good spirits. Margaret in particular is great to watch because after the years of intensity and rocking, she makes it look fun! She rocks as sharply as the rest of the band but also seems to be having the time of her life playing all those songs. ~ The set list seemed to be pretty much spot on what they played in Atlanta, here's what I recalled it being: Our Time /Mr. Marx's Table / Comet / Being Sucked In Again / Mekon Headman / Perspex Icon / An Advantage In Height / The Agfers of Kodack / Silk Skin Paws / All Fours / One of Us / Boiling Boy / The 15th / 106 Beats That / I Don't Understand encore 1: He Knows / Pink Flag encore 2: Lowdown / Underwater encore 3: Circumspect encore 4: 12XU ~ I was quite surprised by them coming out for the 4th encore, and had been putting off purchasing one of their 12XU shirts until I'd actually seen them play it. (Plus the XL's were only $15!) Afterwards, Colin definitely made it clear "That was IT! Good night!" ~ Both Graham and Colin made several comments about the vast amounts of pot smoke wafting up to the stage! ~ Graham seemed to be in a very silly mood at times and in between urging everyone to vote, threw out lines like "This song is about the moonlight on Alaskan voting patterns" or something equally odd as a lead-in to "Being Sucked...". Both he and Colin were in very good voice and the band was tight and as razor sharp as you could want. They also seemed to redorder their setlist in mid-stream around "Silk Skin Paws" with Graham eventually mentioning that Colin had won the argument about it 3-1 but still lost! ~ We had a small-scale version of an "IC massive" that basically consisted of myself, Robert Cambra, and one of his friends meeting after the show and talking for about twenty minutes. His recollection of having seen Wire perform "Boiling Boy" in the 80's at the same club was particularly cool to hear about. ~ Silk Skin Paws... YES!!!! A great night and I'll echo the thoughts of several folks in the audience that Colin can work out getting Githead to tour the US soon! RJH ~ So next on the agenda is Stereolab this coming week at the same venue... on Wednesday again! ****************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:01:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: Emailing: Snopes (Halloween Candy) Bad Coins Claim: A recall was issued for foil-wrapped Pirate's Gold chocolate coins because they contain melamine. Status: True. Example: [Collected via e-mail, October 2008] With Halloween fast approaching comes a warning to parents and kids regarding Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported from China. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is warning the public not to eat, distribute or sell the candy. It is sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been sold in bulk packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores. The chocolate contains melamine which is the same chemical responsible for killing several babies in China, and sickening thousands more. Origins: Every now and then, a warning circulated in e-mail proves to be the real deal. Such is the case with the helpful heads-up about foil-covered chocolate coins being vended in Canada. On 8 October 2008, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency issued a consumer advisory warning the public not to eat, distribute, or sell Sherwood brand Pirate's Gold milk chocolate coins imported from China. The candy is being recalled after testing positive for the industrial chemical melamine, a substance at the center of the tainted-milk controversy in China that has been implicated in the deaths of four infants and the sickening of 54,000 other babies. The coins were being sold across Canada by Costco and may also have been vended in bulk packages or as individual pieces at dollar and bulk stores. Although the health risk is considered low, the advisory was issued after an investigation into milk and milk-derived products from China that may have reached Canadian stores. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency's consumer advisory regarding this product states: The Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) is warning the public not to consume, distribute, or sell the Sherwood Brands Pirate"s Gold Milk Chocolate Coins described below. This product is being recalled due to positive test results for melamine conducted by the CFIA. The affected product, Sherwood Brands Pirate"s Gold Milk Chocolate Coins, is sold in 840g containers containing 240 pieces per container bearing UPC 0 36077 11240 7 and lot code 1928S1. This product is sold nationally through Costco stores and may also have been sold in bulk packages or as individual pieces at various dollar and bulk stores across Canada. If the original product identity and UPC code is not evident, consumers are advised to check with their retailer to determine if they have the affected product. Retailers and distributors are advised to stop distributing Sherwood Brands Pirate"s Gold Milk Chocolate Coins and to initiate a voluntary recall of this product. The CFIA will be working with the importers to remove the affected product from the marketplace. There have been no reported illnesses associated with the consumption of these products. Although the health risk associated with these products is considered to be low, the advisory is being issued as a result of the Government of Canada"s ongoing investigation into milk and milk-derived products sourced in/from China that may have been distributed in Canada. The CFIA is monitoring the effectiveness of the recall. Melamine is a chemical compound used in a number of commercial and industrial applications. Canada does not allow its use as a food ingredient. Sherwood Brands says those of its chocolate coins that contain melamine were vended only in Canada, that none of those confections reached the U.S. Barbara "booty (re)call" Mikkelson Last updated: 26 October 2008 The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/coins.asp Urban Legends Reference Pages ) 1995-2008 by snopes.com. This material may not be reproduced without permission. snopes and the snopes.com logo are registered service marks of snopes.com. Sources: Canadian Food Inspection Agency. "Consumer Advisory: Sherwood Brands Pirate's Gold Milk Chocolate Coins." 8 October 2008. The Canadian Press. "Don't Eat Candy Coins from China, CFIA Warns." The Globe and Mail. 9 October 2008 (p. A16). Nguyen, Linda. "Chinese-Made Chocolate Coins Recalled; Contain Toxic Melamine." National Post. 9 October 2008 (p. A5). ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #509 ********************************