From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #501 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, October 19 2008 Volume 10 : Number 501 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] You can't leave now ! ["Keith" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:57:57 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] You can't leave now ! And now Levi Stubbs has gone : ( - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Fergus Kelly Sent: 17 October 2008 19:37 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] You can't leave now ! Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:16:03 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: [idealcopy] Ray Lowry 1944-2008 http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2008/10/post_31.html ((( That is indeed a sad loss. I used to really enjoy his cartoon strips in the NME in the late 70s/early 80s... especially the ones that used images from 30s/40s popular culture.. one springs to mind (which, thankfully, I can check in my copy of Lipstick Traces), of two young women in cafe, remarking on a man on the far side of the street with a tin whistle. The header reads: "It is seventeen long years since Monty was spotted in the gutter outside Malcolm McGregor's sex 'n' drugs shop..." "It's that shabby old man with the tin whistle !" says one of the women in the original speech bubble. Lowry has added a speech bubble for the man: "I yam an anti-christ!" Stunning. May he rest in peace. Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:57:08 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: Peace and Love.... You can just shove yer fan mail up yer jacksey! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OQtayt7mo9U&sdig=1 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 18 October 2008 02:23 To: Ideal Copy Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Peace and Love.... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gpd24yVy5C4 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:01:26 EDT From: Hatsephsut@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: for Brian Wilson Fans He's playing here in November, I'm at odds about going to see him The Beach Boys represent so much of my young life, we were all about beach blanket bingo and surfer dudes in the 60s - I don't know, I'm not sure I want to go back and I'm not sure I want to go forward after all the water under the bridge At long beach Denny couldn't sit at his drums - same in Chicago - went to see them at the Chicago Stadium in the mid 70s and the show was cancelled, they were too "sick" to show up - we did get a rain check, came back the second time and they had to have a backup drummer for Denny - it broke my heart when Denny died - even more when I found out part of the reason he was so f*cked up was that he'd been invloved with the Manson Family before they went on to the Tate/LoBianca murders and Mike Love married, was it Al's daughter? - that's just wrong to me in so many ways I don't know, times of life I might not want to revisit - and yet, Beach Boys still to this day make me happy - even all the shit I've gone through in my own life, I listen to Beach Boys and I'm that young girl with my whole life in front of me again and it's all just like it never happened - that's the part I want to keep untouched and unspoiled by all the drama and tragedy - seeing him again, well, I'm afraid all that will go away in a new reality Talk about Barbara Ann - I quite like the Baba Ram version as done by Eddie Reyes Jr. in Surf Ninjas - yes, I'm still a sucker for a surf movie.... Laurel **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:14:32 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: for Brian Wilson Fans Tough one. I'm sure a few had similiar doubts about this new Wire tour, I don't think they'd have been dissapointed! A Brian gig is not really a "Beach Boys" show though. Mike Love & Bruce Johnston still tour as "The Beach Boys"' and thats a straight ahead 60s nostalgia gig complete with beach balls and surfboards. Avoid! Wilson puts on a more stately, more musicianly show, with strings, horns and a full band. No dancing girls, no hawaiin shirts. Its just Bri behind a Yamaha keyboard that he seldom touches, occasionally smiling with his (new) teeth, doing bizarre hand movements as if he's signing the lyrics for the deaf, fighting his demons, doing his best. Occasionally he'll nail it, and make the hairs on your neck stand up. He will probably play a lot of solo stuff, bits of Pet Sounds, Smile and some of the dustier corners of the BBs back catalogue. He does do a few of the old surfin' songs as an encore but the whole presentation and the production is so far removed from "The Beach Boys" i'm pretty sure it won't spoil your memories. But don't take my word for it!. Some video clips if you want to dip a toe in here and test the water. http://www.brianwilson.com/media/index.html Hatsephsut@aol.com wrote: > He's playing here in November, I'm at odds about going to see him > > The Beach Boys represent so much of my young life, we were all about beach > blanket bingo and surfer dudes in the 60s - I don't know, I'm not sure I want > to go back and I'm not sure I want to go forward after all the water under > the bridge > > At long beach Denny couldn't sit at his drums - same in Chicago - went to > see them at the Chicago Stadium in the mid 70s and the show was cancelled, they > were too "sick" to show up - we did get a rain check, came back the second > time and they had to have a backup drummer for Denny - it broke my heart when > Denny died - even more when I found out part of the reason he was so f*cked > up was that he'd been invloved with the Manson Family before they went on to > the Tate/LoBianca murders > > and Mike Love married, was it Al's daughter? - that's just wrong to me in so > many ways > > I don't know, times of life I might not want to revisit - and yet, Beach > Boys still to this day make me happy - even all the shit I've gone through in my > own life, I listen to Beach Boys and I'm that young girl with my whole life > in front of me again and it's all just like it never happened - that's the > part I want to keep untouched and unspoiled by all the drama and tragedy - > seeing him again, well, I'm afraid all that will go away in a new reality > > Talk about Barbara Ann - I quite like the Baba Ram version as done by Eddie > Reyes Jr. in Surf Ninjas - yes, I'm still a sucker for a surf movie.... > > Laurel > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:15:22 EDT From: Hatsephsut@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: for Brian Wilson Fans In a message dated 10/18/2008 9:26:01 PM Central Daylight Time, tim@kidsindestructible.com writes: A Brian gig is not really a "Beach Boys" show though Yeah, I know you're right and I appreciate the encouragement - I still think it's something I shouldn't miss what you say is true though it's like Rick Nelson faced and memorialized in Garden Party - even though I know it's just him, and I really am not opposed to hearing his solo stuff I'm afraid of my own expectations just as an aside, I bought Pet Sounds at the time it was released and still have it - we revere it now but put it in context to back then it was laughed at and so badly received that for years I was made fun of for having it, people even made fun of me at the record shop for buying it if I remember correctly - I didn't knock him then for trying to move forward out of the Beach Boys mold, I'm not knocking him now for it - but this also feeds into the problem, I don't want this to be his Garden Party - he's already had his share of that and if that's the reaction at the show I don't want to be there to see it but really how much worse could it be than The Spandex Years? - a whole generation to whom the Stones were the height of gritty rebellion lived thru Mick prancing in spandex and made it out the other side, I suppose I could survive this :-) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:22:09 -0700 From: Rick Hindman Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in SF, 10/15 Hey all~ Just wanted to pass on some thoughts about Wire's show at the Fillmore in San Francisco this past Wednesday. ~ The warm up act (Love Republic I think) wasn't too bad although a real mish-mash of sounds that by turns had me thinking of Stereolab, MoB, prog and jazz thrown into a blender with a bunch of LSD and mixed thoroughly. Decent musicians but very unfocused and kind of jam-oriented. According to a waitress, their bassist (a cute 20-something gal) works for the Fillmore, so they had a good number of local fans to support them. ~ There were enough iPhones & Blackberries taking photos to give Robert Fripp an apoplexy! ~ Wire started pretty much on time and all of the band seemed in pretty good spirits. Margaret in particular is great to watch because after the years of intensity and rocking, she makes it look fun! She rocks as sharply as the rest of the band but also seems to be having the time of her life playing all those songs. ~ The set list seemed to be pretty much spot on what they played in Atlanta, here's what I recalled it being: Our Time /Mr. Marx's Table / Comet / Being Sucked In Again / Mekon Headman / Perspex Icon / An Advantage In Height / The Agfers of Kodack / Silk Skin Paws / All Fours / One of Us / Boiling Boy / The 15th / 106 Beats That / I Don't Understand encore 1: He Knows / Pink Flag encore 2: Lowdown / Underwater encore 3: Circumspect encore 4: 12XU ~ I was quite surprised by them coming out for the 4th encore, and had been putting off purchasing one of their 12XU shirts until I'd actually seen them play it. (Plus the XL's were only $15!) Afterwards, Colin definitely made it clear "That was IT! Good night!" ~ Both Graham and Colin made several comments about the vast amounts of pot smoke wafting up to the stage! ~ Graham seemed to be in a very silly mood at times and in between urging everyone to vote, threw out lines like "This song is about the moonlight on Alaskan voting patterns" or something equally odd as a lead-in to "Being Sucked...". Both he and Colin were in very good voice and the band was tight and as razor sharp as you could want. They also seemed to redorder their setlist in mid-stream around "Silk Skin Paws" with Graham eventually mentioning that Colin had won the argument about it 3-1 but still lost! ~ We had a small-scale version of an "IC massive" that basically consisted of myself, Robert Cambra, and one of his friends meeting after the show and talking for about twenty minutes. His recollection of having seen Wire perform "Boiling Boy" in the 80's at the same club was particularly cool to hear about. ~ Silk Skin Paws... YES!!!! A great night and I'll echo the thoughts of several folks in the audience that Colin can work out getting Githead to tour the US soon! RJH ~ So next on the agenda is Stereolab this coming week at the same venue... on Wednesday again! ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #501 ********************************