From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #459 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, September 1 2008 Volume 10 : Number 459 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Hainault Offset Festival [Ralf Zeigermann ] Re: [idealcopy] Offset Miner [Bunny Smedley ] [idealcopy] punk anyone? (HMmmm pt. 6) [Ari ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:06:11 +0100 From: Ralf Zeigermann Subject: [idealcopy] Hainault Offset Festival Hi all, I was there yesterday and Wire was fab. Even the sound was perfect, which doesn't happen very often at festivals. :-) If anyone's interested, I've put a few photos up on Flickr: http://flickr.com/photos/cartoonist/sets/72157607036197489/ Best, Ralf On 31 Aug 2008, at 09:30, idealcopy-digest wrote: > festival looks great and , had that been the only gig , i'd have > gone for a > day. however , scala it is...... > (but let us know how the Offset was) > p - ---------------------------------------------------- The Cartoonist: http://zeigermann.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:33:03 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Offset Miner All told a very enjoyable day. Have to return for Day Two shortly (Go4 headlining) so this had better be brief. A good, compact site in open land close to Hainult Forest (in case anyone was envisaging the audience peering around trees to see the band), the day was blessed with sunny weather which as any UK copyists will know is very lucky this year. My friend calculated we'd seen at least bits of 17 different bands before getting to Wire, the highlights of which were an electronic threesome called 'Trademark' who have pop songs to die for, great synthesizer kit and sound like early Pet Shop Boys, 'Load! Click! Shoot!''s young guitar energy and, despite chronic sound difficulties, Eddie Argos (of Art Brut's) new band, 'GlamChops' with Eddie and band dressed up like they'd been beamed in from a 1973 ToTP show. Wire headlined the main stage (an open one) in front of a fair crowd, although as I was right down the front I couldn't judge the extent (I doubt the day was a sell-out as it hadn't been well-advertised. The band were dressed in black and Graham has his woolly hat on again. Colin opens with a chirpy 'Hello Essex' and they start in with Circumspect. This is my first experience of the live band with Margaret and thought it worked fine. There are sounds which one thought wouldn't have emanated from Bruce, but then again this ain't Bruce, and Margaret slots in seamlessly for most of the set. Didn't keep a running order but there's a smattering from Object 47 ('One of Us' of course a stand-out), slightly re-worked material of R&B era stuff like 'Comet' and 'I Don't Understand' (a blistering end to the main set), and a great Graham vocal on 'Agfers', 'Boiling Boy' which it was very good to hear again, and a fair number of early period works including, surprisingly, '106 Beats that' which sped by like Lewis Hamilton. The show ended with '12XU' (and I'm still not sure I'm comfortable with that in view of Wire's history with this song) and that was it. A youngish audience seemed to lap it up (there were teenage girls dancing throughout in the photographer's pit). Right, let's get my aching bones back to that field. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of PAUL RABJOHN Sent: 30 August 2008 20:03 To: Bunny Smedley; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Offset Miner festival looks great and , had that been the only gig , i'd have gone for a day. however , scala it is...... (but let us know how the Offset was) p - ----- Original Message ---- From: Bunny Smedley To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, 30 August, 2008 9:02:26 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Offset Miner Anyone else going to see Wire at Offset today ? Strangely enough, the venue (Hainault Forest Country Park) website has a whole page devoted to leaf miners: http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/6Mines.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:12:42 +0100 From: Bunny Smedley Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Offset Miner ATK has beaten me to it - just as well as he has a better grip on the setlist than me. All round great day out. For Wire, the sound started off really terrible and muted and I think affected the band's monitors too - but was soon rectified and usual high standards prevailed. Other highlights for me included 'Advantage in Height', and 'Being Sucked in Again'. We also got Pink Flag and Lowdown, and of the newer material Perspex Icon and Agfers stood out. One of Us sounded rather different to the record (and jumped into a guitar riff from another Wire number that nagged at me but which I failed to identify) but excellent nonetheless. Of the other bands, I also enjoyed Trademark a lot - though you forgot to mention their Kraftwerk-style keyboard stands made from kitchen cupboards they'd rescued from a skip. Situationists (Foals / Bloc Party style guitar work), Domino State (Chameleons / Puressence), and Micron 63 (dark electronics based, but oddly in a tent smelling badly of horse manure) were my favourites. My tolerance for different musical genres was tested severely by the Guitar Hero stage full of indistinguishable and abysmal long haired 'rock' kids. May be back later today ... but having Metronomy / Blood Red Shoes clashing, and Prizhorn Dance School on so late that we are guaranteed to miss the train back are not encouraging. > From: Keith Knight > Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:33:03 +0100 > To: 'PAUL RABJOHN' , 'Bunny Smedley' > , > Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Offset Miner > > All told a very enjoyable day. Have to return for Day Two shortly (Go4 > headlining) so this had better be brief. > > A good, compact site in open land close to Hainult Forest (in case anyone > was envisaging the audience peering around trees to see the band), the day > was blessed with sunny weather which as any UK copyists will know is very > lucky this year. My friend calculated we'd seen at least bits of 17 > different bands before getting to Wire, the highlights of which were an > electronic threesome called 'Trademark' who have pop songs to die for, great > synthesizer kit and sound like early Pet Shop Boys, 'Load! Click! Shoot!''s > young guitar energy and, despite chronic sound difficulties, Eddie Argos (of > Art Brut's) new band, 'GlamChops' with Eddie and band dressed up like they'd > been beamed in from a 1973 ToTP show. > > Wire headlined the main stage (an open one) in front of a fair crowd, > although as I was right down the front I couldn't judge the extent (I doubt > the day was a sell-out as it hadn't been well-advertised. The band were > dressed in black and Graham has his woolly hat on again. Colin opens with a > chirpy 'Hello Essex' and they start in with Circumspect. This is my first > experience of the live band with Margaret and thought it worked fine. There > are sounds which one thought wouldn't have emanated from Bruce, but then > again this ain't Bruce, and Margaret slots in seamlessly for most of the > set. Didn't keep a running order but there's a smattering from Object 47 > ('One of Us' of course a stand-out), slightly re-worked material of R&B era > stuff like 'Comet' and 'I Don't Understand' (a blistering end to the main > set), and a great Graham vocal on 'Agfers', 'Boiling Boy' which it was very > good to hear again, and a fair number of early period works including, > surprisingly, '106 Beats that' which sped by like Lewis Hamilton. The show > ended with '12XU' (and I'm still not sure I'm comfortable with that in view > of Wire's history with this song) and that was it. A youngish audience > seemed to lap it up (there were teenage girls dancing throughout in the > photographer's pit). > > Right, let's get my aching bones back to that field. > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of PAUL RABJOHN > Sent: 30 August 2008 20:03 > To: Bunny Smedley; idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Offset Miner > > > festival looks great and , had that been the only gig , i'd have gone for a > day. however , scala it is...... (but let us know how the Offset was) p > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bunny Smedley > To: > idealcopy@smoe.org > Sent: Saturday, 30 August, 2008 9:02:26 AM > Subject: > [idealcopy] Offset Miner > > Anyone else going to see Wire at Offset today ? > Strangely enough, the venue (Hainault Forest Country Park) website has a > whole page devoted to leaf miners: > > http://www.hainaultforest.co.uk/6Mines.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] punk anyone? (HMmmm pt. 6) http://news.yahoo.com/story//nm/20080830/music_nm/cuba_punk_dc ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #459 ********************************