From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #438 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, July 29 2008 Volume 10 : Number 438 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Colin Newman on The White Album ["Jon Whitney" ] Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 ["Steve Loubert" ] Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 ["David McKenzie" ] Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 [Eric Klaver ] Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 ["David McKenzie" ] Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? ["David McKenzie" ] Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? ["David McKenzie" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:16:25 -0400 From: "Jon Whitney" Subject: [idealcopy] Colin Newman on The White Album http://www.mojo4music.com/blog/2008/07/my_white_album_1.html - -- Brainwashed Inc: brainwashed.com | Brainwashed Recordings | Killer Pimp Music | Brainwaves 2008 Festival P.O. Box 7 / Arlington, MA 02476 / USA streaming radio  podcasts  reviews  store  music fests ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:50:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? http://www.cuil.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:36:53 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 I haven't. I thought I would be able to run down to my local store and pick it up. So far, I haven't been able to find it locally. Big chains, small independent stores, nothing. I see that Amazon and Best Buy both have it backordered. So, alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie, here I come. I'll buy it as soon as I can find it. Anyone know why it's such a pain to find? Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Ideal Copy" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 > johnny clash wrote: >> object47 for free on newsgroups >> > > > I can't believe anyone on this list hasn't already *paid* for it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:23:20 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 contrary to reports here - mine arrived from Tower - now a duplicate which is on its' way to my brother in SF as a belated birthday gift I also had no copy locating it in Chicago at Reckless Records and charles/(ex)wmo bought at the little indie shop in his neighborhood whose name escapes me I would try tower again personally On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Steve Loubert wrote: > I haven't. I thought I would be able to run down to my local store and pick > it up. So far, I haven't been able to find it locally. Big chains, small > independent stores, nothing. I see that Amazon and Best Buy both have it > backordered. So, alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie, here I come. I'll buy it > as soon as I can find it. > > Anyone know why it's such a pain to find? > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > To: "Ideal Copy" > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 > > >> johnny clash wrote: >>> >>> object47 for free on newsgroups >>> >> >> >> I can't believe anyone on this list hasn't already *paid* for it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:39:09 -0400 From: Eric Klaver Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 Got mine at HMV last week (Toronto). Got RnB 03 there too. Still assessing O47 and will give my opinion soon. Eric On 28-Jul-08, at 6:36 PM, Steve Loubert wrote: I haven't. I thought I would be able to run down to my local store and pick it up. So far, I haven't been able to find it locally. Big chains, small independent stores, nothing. I see that Amazon and Best Buy both have it backordered. So, alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie, here I come. I'll buy it as soon as I can find it. Anyone know why it's such a pain to find? Steve - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" To: "Ideal Copy" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 > johnny clash wrote: >> object47 for free on newsgroups >> > > > I can't believe anyone on this list hasn't already *paid* for it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:40:21 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 even when i had a subscription i didn't take the reviews as useful other than release notices and an occasional bit of info i quite like the object; it rewards successive listens. interesting how all the negative criticism centers around the production which i generally regard as the icing on the cake. my tastes run towards something a bit more over the top, but i think it stupid to dismiss a recording because the production values do not revolutionize the art. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:41:25 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? returns *nothing* for lizzy mercier descloux (my personal test case) 2008/7/28 Ari : > http://www.cuil.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:44:48 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? i take that back - just tried again and it returned results, but it did returned nothing this afternoon i will rely on g00gle for a while longer, i think On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David McKenzie wrote: > returns *nothing* for lizzy mercier descloux > (my personal test case) > > 2008/7/28 Ari : >> http://www.cuil.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:49:36 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? I quite like the way the results come out but Cuil is not easy to remember, spell or pronounce (how do you say it? its like one of those unpronouceable Autechre LP tracks!) which might hinder its success. David McKenzie wrote: > i take that back - just tried again and it returned results, but it > did returned nothing this afternoon > i will rely on g00gle for a while longer, i think > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David McKenzie wrote: >> returns *nothing* for lizzy mercier descloux >> (my personal test case) >> >> 2008/7/28 Ari : ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:42:46 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? _ pronounced cul loke cool supposedly a gaelic word On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Tim wrote: > I quite like the way the results come out but > Cuil is not easy to remember, spell or pronounce (how do you say it? its > like one of those unpronouceable Autechre LP tracks!) which might hinder its > success. > > > David McKenzie wrote: >> >> i take that back - just tried again and it returned results, but it >> did returned nothing this afternoon >> i will rely on g00gle for a while longer, i think >> >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David McKenzie >> wrote: >>> >>> returns *nothing* for lizzy mercier descloux >>> (my personal test case) >>> >>> 2008/7/28 Ari : ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:41:18 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? >>pronounced cul loke cool supposedly a gaelic word<< It's what Geordies call Peter Christopherson and Jhon Balance's ex-band. Gaelic also probably featured there, come to think about it. ;-) M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:04:52 -0400 From: Eric Klaver Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Hate Gooooogle? Tried it already. There are many things, style wise, I like about it. As far as substance it's got a way to go. Apparently they have indexed only a few billion pages. The Tomas Costello, one of the founders, is quoted on the issue in Forbes and it is is none too promising either: Cuil will pull results from 120 billion Web pages, which is, it claims, roughly three times the reach of Google, Yahoo! (nasdaq: YHOO - news - people ) or Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ). Is that nearly all of the Web? "We think it's close, but we've learned the Web is larger than we thought," says Costello. Yikes, if I was an investor, I'd be pulling my hair out with a quote like that. I also found particular searches brought nothing. I "cuiled" (the equivalent of googling?) my name and it brought up far fewer hits than Google -- not that I am famous or anything, it's just that the web is littered with my tracks ;-) Eric On 28-Jul-08, at 1:50 PM, Ari wrote: http://www.cuil.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:34:46 -0700 From: Rick Hindman Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 Hey all~ Got mine at HMV last week (Toronto). Got RnB 03 there too. Still > assessing O47 and will give my opinion soon. > > Eric > > On 28-Jul-08, at 6:36 PM, Steve Loubert wrote: > > I haven't. I thought I would be able to run down to my local store > and pick it up. So far, I haven't been able to find it locally. Big > chains, small independent stores, nothing. I see that Amazon and Best > Buy both have it backordered. So, alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.indie, here > I come. I'll buy it as soon as I can find it. > > Anyone know why it's such a pain to find? > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" > To: "Ideal Copy" > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Abject 47 > > >> johnny clash wrote: >>> object47 for free on newsgroups >>> >> >> >> I can't believe anyone on this list hasn't already *paid* for it. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.comVersion: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.6/1577 - Release Date: 7/28/2008 6:55 AM ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #438 ********************************