From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #431 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, July 22 2008 Volume 10 : Number 431 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary ["Keith Knight"] RE: [idealcopy] Julian Cope at Latitude ["Keith Knight" ] RE: [idealcopy] githead review ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary [Bart van Damme <] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:33:15 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary Saw Mark Stewart and the Maffia at the RFH a few weeks back as part of Massive Attack's Meltdown - firs time I've seen them for, oh, 15 years? As they were my favourite live act of the 80s I was a little apprehensive but needn't have been - they were as blistering as ever, playing two sets, the first on stage and the second late in the foyer, without repeating a song during the time I was there (and I left far later than I should have). But there was one big change - Stewart's personality. Back in the 80s he was so inclined to avoid the limelight that he asked for stage lights to be turned off and even then hid round the back. Now, as this clip suggests, he's chatty and in your face - he even rested his foot on the stage monitor at one point to lean over the audience. God knows what's happened but with luck this will mean more live performances. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bart van Damme Sent: 18 July 2008 16:39 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary Trailer: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZhOcd9rD9E Has this Mark Stewart/The Pop Group documentary been on air yet? Anyone seen it? Loved the bit at the end where Bad Seed Mick Harvey imitates the Snowgirl falsetto. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:22:52 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Julian Cope at Latitude TWO mellotrons! I'm impressed. Have dug out the Megalithic European as I will be visiting west Ireland next week and hope to chance across some stone circles (no other way of finding them over there apparently, directions being somewhat loose). Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith Sent: 20 July 2008 11:31 To: 'Ideal Copy' Subject: [idealcopy] Julian Cope at Latitude As most of you will no doubt know, I'm rather fond of a certain British eccentric who goes by the name of Julian Cope. Anyway, he played the Latitude festival this weekend. I've seen him loads of times, but I really do wish I'd caught this one. There's a review from the Uncut website below, whilst one Cope regular said "it even left a small group of us hardcore fans, who thought we'd seen Cope do it all before, speechless... It was extraordinary!" The extraordinary spectacle of Julian Cope 2008-07-18 21:26:18 Let's start at the end. Julian Cope is standing onstage in the Uncut Arena. The power has just been pulled on him for over-running. He has started half an hour late after a doomed attempt at soundchecking, played two newish songs and a bizarre medley of some old songs, sacrificed a guitar to the goddess, challenged God, Jehovah and Allah to a fight, and ended by announcing, "Children, tell your grandchildren that people like me once walked the earth." No wonder, I suppose, that he hasn't played a festival in years. Cope is tonight unveiling a new configuration of his sound. The band might feature old hands like Donald Ross Skinner and Holy McGrail, but initially, the musicians are playing three acoustic guitars, a drumkit, a marching band bass drum, and two Mellotrons. The repetitive, hypnotic jangles and drones are as dumb and gonzoid as the glam metal he's been playing live these past few years, but somehow more intense and witchy. The band, by the way, mostly look like '80s Budgie roadies; a delightfully nuanced detail. Anyway, after a couple of these songs, they reorganise slightly for a brilliant drone-funk version of The Teardrop Explodes' "Sleeping Gas", with Cope leading the way bullishly on bass. After about ten minutes, he smashes his bass, sacrifices it the gods (I am paraphrasing here), goes into some absorbingly garbled rant about religion, playing with his brother and some other stuff. By now, the band are pulsing barely audibly, and Cope is hanging off his ancient climbing frame of a mic stand and appearing to start "Reynard The Fox". This tapers out into another rant and, fantastically, he starts mimicking the crowd by aggressively heckling himself. Appearing to relent, he decides to play "Pristeen", when the band lose power, and he's left proclaiming his own legend to a half-cheering, half-baffled crowd. I loved it of course, not least because while Cope often talks about his music being necessarily confrontational, he rarely takes that music to an audience that isn't immensely tolerant of his digressions. There's a tension here that illuminates the mythological clowning, and an imagination to the rearranged music - even in that vast Jim Morrison-esque breakdown - which elevates it even further. But of course I might be in the minority thinking that. John Mulvey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:05:25 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary Thanks for this Keith! I never saw Mark nor the Popgroup live, but they we're amongst my absolute faves of the early 80's. Mark's new job on the side must be the reason for his newfound courage. http://www.markstewart.com [sorry 'bout that] ;-) I'm curious about Massive Attack... did they play much of the newer stuff? Bart Op 21 jul 2008, om 21:33 heeft Keith Knight het volgende geschreven: > Saw Mark Stewart and the Maffia at the RFH a few weeks back as part of > Massive Attack's Meltdown - firs time I've seen them for, oh, 15 > years? > > As they were my favourite live act of the 80s I was a little > apprehensive > but needn't have been - they were as blistering as ever, playing two > sets, > the first on stage and the second late in the foyer, without > repeating a > song during the time I was there (and I left far later than I should > have). > But there was one big change - Stewart's personality. Back in the > 80s he > was so inclined to avoid the limelight that he asked for stage > lights to be > turned off and even then hid round the back. Now, as this clip > suggests, > he's chatty and in your face - he even rested his foot on the stage > monitor > at one point to lean over the audience. God knows what's happened > but with > luck this will mean more live performances. > > Another the Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf > Of Bart van Damme > Sent: 18 July 2008 16:39 > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary > > > Trailer: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZhOcd9rD9E > > Has this Mark Stewart/The Pop Group documentary been on air yet? > Anyone seen it? > > Loved the bit at the end where Bad Seed Mick Harvey imitates the > Snowgirl falsetto. > > Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:09:50 +0100 From: Tim Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Object 47's objects Mitchell Dickerman wrote: > Ok, let's play this little game: > "One Of Us" - this about Bruce > "Mekon Headman" - Jon Langford? > "Perspex Icon" - I'd say Robyn Hitchcock that's probably pushing it. Colin has responded to this thread on the Forum: "re- comments on IC list. 1. "One Of Us" is most definitely NOT about Bruce. 2. "Perspex Icon" is about the art market (amongst other things)" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:28:05 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] githead review Couldn't find it there. Try this... http://habloennui.blogspot.com/search?q=githead - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mileta Okiljevic Sent: 20 July 2008 18:13 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] githead review http://habloennui.blogspot.com/2008/07/githead-art-pop-previously-unpublishe d ..html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:52:06 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mark Stewart /The Pop Group documentary Yeah, I heard him mentioning something like that in the clip too... And apparently he's not in it for the architecture I read in the interview. I wonder if he hangs out with hairdressers as well ;-) Great read - thanks! B. > In the Wire interview he talks about hanging out with builders. > http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/1128/ > >> Thanks for this Keith! >> >> I never saw Mark nor the Popgroup live, but they we're amongst my >> absolute >> faves of the early 80's. >> >> Mark's new job on the side must be the reason for his newfound >> courage. >> http://www.markstewart.com [sorry 'bout that] ;-) >> >> I'm curious about Massive Attack... did they play much of the newer >> stuff? >> >> Bart >>> Saw Mark Stewart and the Maffia at the RFH a few weeks back as >>> part of >>> Massive Attack's Meltdown - firs time I've seen them for, oh, 15 >>> years? >>> >>> As they were my favourite live act of the 80s I was a little >>> apprehensive >>> but needn't have been - they were as blistering as ever, playing >>> two sets, >>> the first on stage and the second late in the foyer, without >>> repeating a >>> song during the time I was there (and I left far later than I should >>> have). >>> But there was one big change - Stewart's personality. Back in the >>> 80s he >>> was so inclined to avoid the limelight that he asked for stage >>> lights to >>> be >>> turned off and even then hid round the back. Now, as this clip >>> suggests, >>> he's chatty and in your face - he even rested his foot on the stage >>> monitor >>> at one point to lean over the audience. God knows what's happened >>> but >>> with >>> luck this will mean more live performances. >>> >>> Another the Keith >>> Trailer: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZhOcd9rD9E >>> >>> Has this Mark Stewart/The Pop Group documentary been on air yet? >>> Anyone seen it? >>> >>> Loved the bit at the end where Bad Seed Mick Harvey imitates the >>> Snowgirl falsetto. >>> >>> Bart ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #431 ********************************