From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #420 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, July 10 2008 Volume 10 : Number 420 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: [MarkBursa@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Scott Walker to Produce Live Tilt/Drift Shows ["Keith Kni] Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: [elektrolad ] Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] O.T: This is a far out idea........ [Ari ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 05:47:57 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: >>"EMI wants to help performers and bands to "monetise their work" through sponsorship deals with firms, similar to those in the football industry, and linking up local bands with local businesses." That is the most un rock n roll thing ever. Tossers.<< New EMI CEO was previously in charge of marketing Cilit Bang, among other products. He says it's important "to understand music consumers" - which implies he's not one. EMI is doomed, especially when 50-year copyright protection on the Beatles catalogue starts disappearing in five years' time. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:42:37 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Scott Walker to Produce Live Tilt/Drift Shows I'll be going so I'll let you know in November! Another the Keith NP: Object 47! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of David McKenzie Sent: 08 July 2008 03:53 To: Ideal Copy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Scott Walker to Produce Live Tilt/Drift Shows I'm not certain what the point would be > Though he's not performing! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: elektrolad Subject: Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: > EMI is doomed, especially when 50-year copyright protection > on the Beatles > catalogue starts disappearing in five years' time. > > Mark I am sure EMI and the other majors are trying to work around this. One way is to release a 'digitally remastered' version which will extent the copyright 50 years after the new version is released. You would think that Apple/EMI would get the Beatles catalogue all shiny and cleaned up before the bomb drops... http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/24/the-uk-says-no-to-over-50-year-music-copyright/ The US protection is 95 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act e __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:58:50 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: >>One way is to release a 'digitally remastered' version which will extent the copyright 50 years after the new version is released.<< No it wouldn't. New versions of the same recordings would not be classed as new recordings - EMI wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court. >>You would think that Apple/EMI would get the Beatles catalogue all shiny and cleaned up before the bomb drops...<< You'd have thought they might have done that years ago. They've missed the boat. Serves them right Of course they own the original recordings. But in 2014 there will be nothing to stop you or I releasing a repackaged "With The Beatles". And they'll no be able to stop anyone downloading that album for free. >>The US protection is 95 years<< Which is much more sensible - most artists will be dead before control of their work is loosened. Unless Michael Jackson lives to 105, which looks a long shot, to be honest. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:56:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: This is a far out idea........ .and to think it started in dreary England..... (thanx to TnA for the link) http://tinyurl.com/6pycg6 Not recycling? watch THIS!! http://www.storyofstuff.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:24:14 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] EMI new boss says: > Of course they own the original recordings. But in 2014 there will be > nothing to stop you or I releasing a repackaged "With The Beatles". And > they'll no > be able to stop anyone downloading that album for free. I don't see why anyone should care about that. Copyright exists, at least in the US, to "promote the progress of science and useful arts", according to the Constitution. It's hard to see how letting EMI retain control of this work promotes that progress. >>>The US protection is 95 years<< It's 95 years for corporate authorship, life plus 70 years for individual authorship This will likely be extended indefinitely, each time Mickey Mouse nears the public domain. > Which is much more sensible - most artists will be dead before control of > their work is loosened. Unless Michael Jackson lives to 105, which looks a > long > shot, to be honest. Many, if not most artists, especially musicians, lose control of their work long before they die. Very few are in a situation in which they could actually be paid for work 50 years after they created it. Extended copyright term is nothing more than corporate welfare, and causes art to be suppressed simply because noone can determine who the copyright holder is a century down the road. Unless it's Michael Jackson, of course, who will live FOREVER. ;) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #420 ********************************