From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #379 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, May 8 2008 Volume 10 : Number 379 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Hearing the cheering [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] Gang of Four minus two [Fergus Kelly ] RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] Making A Manchester Meeting [Ian B ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire in SF? [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire on E-Bay ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] [idealcopy] Youtube Drill ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay [rose_dan@colstate.edu] Re: [idealcopy] Leuven & Mcr Pics [Rick Hindman ] Re: [idealcopy] Leuven & Mcr Pics ["C. Dunton" ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire in SF? [Rick Hindman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:45:25 +0100 (BST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Hearing the cheering Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 18:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] RE: Manchester Don't bargain with fish...??? ((( ...which are still in the water.. Fergus http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:22:49 +0100 (BST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Gang of Four minus two GANG OF FOUR MINUS TWO The original and best-loved line-up of famed post-punk icons Gang of Four reunited in 2005 to great acclaim and success - unfortunately all good things must come to an end. Bassist Dave Allen and drummer Hugo Burnham are moving on, although singer Jon King and guitar-player Andy Gill will continue, focusing on writing and recording new music as Gang of Four. Burnham last performed with the band at All Tomorrows Parties in the UK in December 2006, while Allen played a few shows alongside drummer Mark Heaney in 2007, and recently worked on new material with King and Gill. Allen says, At the beginning of April, I decided that I could no longer continue to be a member of Gang of Four. My ability to give 100% to the band is limited and I feel that if I cant do so, then I shouldnt continue. As I expand my research and thinking about contemporary music distribution on Pampelmoose.com, and as I focus on online technology and social networking at Nemo Design here in Portland, I find myself conflicted about how the bands new music should be released. To retain any credibility for Pampelmoose.com about what the future of music distribution will look like, I have to move on and not hold back Jon and Andys music plans. I have had a side project for a while now with John Askew of Tracker and Menomenas drummer Danny Seim called Faux Hoax (pronounced Folks), and I look forward to fun times finding ways to get our music into peoples hands in unique ways. Burnham writes, It was a great couple of years of intermittently reminding people old and new, far and wide just how powerful the original four of us were together. Age only increased our power and focus onstage, and it was a rare pleasure to work with the original band once again. Being in a band requires handling the business side of it too, and that became boring and the constant travel became debilitating. I am soon to start my Doctorate, as well as broadening my teaching at more than one college here in Massachusetts, so my free time has become increasingly limited, making it difficult to be involved with them going forward. Musically, I am recording and writing with members of Boston noise-merchants, The Bags and I have also been doing some recording lately with Mike Watt. I wish Jon and Andy luck with their new musical endeavours; I am sure they will be interesting. http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:21:00 +0100 From: "Scott Kellock" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire on E-Bay Thought you might be interested in this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160238273056&ssPage Name=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:33:37 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Hugely under-rated album, in my opinion. I play it more than Manscape and A Bell... Discuss (!) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160238273056&s sPage Name=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay o.k I discussed it, now what? - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 1:33:37 PM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Hugely under-rated album, in my opinion. I play it more than Manscape and A Bell... Discuss (!) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160238273056&s sPage Name=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:28:42 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Do you hear voices (Eno/Byrne) or do you have company? ________________________________ From: Ari [mailto:threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 May 2008 20:16 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay o.k I discussed it, now what? - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 1:33:37 PM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Hugely under-rated album, in my opinion. I play it more than Manscape and A Bell... Discuss (!) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160238273056&s sPage Name=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006 ________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:47:19 -0700 From: "Cambra, Robert" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in SF? Wire in San Francisco in October, Fernando? Couldn't find it on PF.com. Very exciting, Robert (another) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 20:57:53 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Amazon's track listing for A Bell... Not Amazon's most accurate listing - - I particularly want to hear track 7! 1. Silk Skin Paws 2. Finest Drops 3. Queen Of Ur And The King Of Um 4. Free Falling Divisions 5. It's A Bob 6. Boiling Boy 7. Kidney Bongos 8. Come Back In Two Halves 9. Follow The Locust 10. Public Place ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:05:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay actually I discussed with snoopy............................ - - Do you hear voices (Eno/Byrne) or do you have company? ________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:05:27 +0100 From: Ian B Subject: [idealcopy] Making A Manchester Meeting I managed to make it from Elland Road in Leeds to the COntact Theatre in an hour and 30 minutes via public transport which was pretty good going - 2 buses and a train. Quite enjoyed the tense discussions although i wasn't there from the get-go. Couldn't determine if Lewis was in a state of refreshment or just tired and irritated. He always gives way graciously to Newman though. And I wish there had been time to discuss the Bruce situation and the future a little more. Post chat and pregig I met up with silent-listee Sharne (no doubt not spelt like that) with whom I shared a few drinks and the gig itself (Hi Sharne/Sian - thanks for your company! Hope you got back to base ok) The gig itself was excellent. Lewis and Gray completely threw themselves into it, the fomer had sweat dripping from his elbows for christsake! I have to admit the alcohol must have kicked in towards the end as I have absolutely no recollection of 12XU being played, but The 15th was a real highlight. Comedy moment of the evening for me came when the main set had finished - one of the young lads who'd been throwing himself around down the front just near me asked if I'd seen them before. His follow up was 'Do you think they'll come back on and play their hits?' Who did he think he'd come to see? Completely agree with Tim's comments on Mark McQ's pics; superb! Ian B - ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:46:41 +0200 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in SF? No, it has not been finalized. It could be the Great American Music Hall (excellent) or Fillmore (not so good). Since the tour has not been finalized, it is unlikely to be mentioned on the site until then. I chatted briefly with Colin and Graham, who mentioned this. Margaret also said it after the gig. On May 7, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Cambra, Robert wrote: > Wire in San Francisco in October, Fernando? Couldn't find it on > PF.com. > > Very exciting, > Robert (another) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:52:06 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire on E-Bay http://tinyurl.com/5bu7gb (Just in case you can't get the other link to work) Cheers, Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Kellock" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:21 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Wire on E-Bay > Thought you might be interested in this > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160238273056&ssPage > Name=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=006 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:59:01 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Perhaps I've always liked morose music! I love this run of tracks... And So and Slow, of course. 8. Naked Whooping And Such-Like 9. Tailor Made 10. No Cows On The Ice 11. Big Glue Canal The He Said albums always slightly disappoint when I return to them - most of the tracks are too long, imho. Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Edwards [mailto:inmyroom@verizon.net] Sent: 07 May 2008 21:55 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay so and slow is the only keeper for me. That album is was like He Said without the energy. Downers must have been cheap in Europe that year. Having said that, I'll have to go listen to to it again to see if this is still my opinion. I'm fickle like that. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:32:14 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: [idealcopy] Leuven & Mcr Pics Hi, Here's some pics of the recent Leuven and Manchester gigs. Not in the same league as Mark's excellent snaps admittedly (just had my trusty old digital camera with me!), but thought you may wanna see them, esp. as there's not been much from the Leuven gig. Apologies for the Leuven ones being dark, but hey.it really wasn't that bright in there! (Wouldn't normally include the last one of Graham with it being so dark it's more of a silhouette, but I kinda like it!) Leuven http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339578@N03/sets/72157604934391705/ Manchester http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339578@N03/sets/72157604930558482/ If you only look at one from Mcr, look at the interview one. Sums it up nicely!! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:41:11 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Youtube Drill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6eAOmz-Aag&feature=related Great version. Not seen this before. B ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 22:55:57 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Youtube Drill Apologies - I've usually been slow to cotton on. In my defence I did buy Chairs Missing and 154 the day they were released... B ________________________________ From: Ari [mailto:threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com] Sent: 07 May 2008 22:53 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Youtube Drill Bruno!! Snoopy wants to know where you bin hidin'.................... A - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 5:41:11 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Youtube Drill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6eAOmz-Aag&feature=related Great version. Not seen this before. B ________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Youtube Drill Bruno!! Snoopy wants to know where you bin hidin'.................... A - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 5:41:11 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Youtube Drill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6eAOmz-Aag&feature=related Great version. Not seen this before. B ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 20:17:10 -0500 From: rose_dan@colstate.edu Subject: Re: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay Heck, I for one love the album. It has a real, mechanical chill to it. Bloodless like. Can't say I've ever heard anything like it. Is it generally dissed? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:59 pm Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay > Perhaps I've always liked morose music! > > I love this run of tracks... And So and Slow, of course. > > 8. Naked Whooping And Such-Like > 9. Tailor Made > 10. No Cows On The Ice > 11. Big Glue Canal > > The He Said albums always slightly disappoint when I return to > them - > most of the tracks are too long, imho. > > Bruno > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Edwards [mailto:inmyroom@verizon.net] > Sent: 07 May 2008 21:55 > To: Clements, Bruno - BUP > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wir on E-Bay > > so and slow is the only keeper for me. That album is was like He Said > without the energy. Downers must have been cheap in Europe that year. > Having said that, I'll have to go listen to to it again to see if this > is still my opinion. I'm fickle like that. > Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 18:31:55 -0700 From: Rick Hindman Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Leuven & Mcr Pics There's some nice shots in there! I really like that guitar that Margaret is playing. I think it's a Fender, but it has a really cool kind of Gretsch/Epiphone look. Can't wait for them to hit California! RJH Keith wrote: > Hi, > > > > Here's some pics of the recent Leuven and Manchester gigs. Not in the same > league as Mark's excellent snaps admittedly (just had my trusty old digital > camera with me!), but thought you may wanna see them, esp. as there's not > been much from the Leuven gig. > > > > Apologies for the Leuven ones being dark, but hey.it really wasn't that > bright in there! > > > > (Wouldn't normally include the last one of Graham with it being so dark it's > more of a silhouette, but I kinda like it!) > > > > Leuven > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339578@N03/sets/72157604934391705/ > > > > Manchester > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339578@N03/sets/72157604930558482/ > > > > > > If you only look at one from Mcr, look at the interview one. Sums it up > nicely!! > > > > Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 01:22:05 -0400 From: "C. Dunton" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Leuven & Mcr Pics Yup, she's playing a Fender Jazzmaster (same type that adorns the cover of MBV's Loveless). I've got one in white. Too bad I suck at playing it. Creaig On May 7, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Rick Hindman wrote: > There's some nice shots in there! I really like that guitar that > Margaret is playing. I think it's a Fender, but it has a really cool > kind of Gretsch/Epiphone look. > > Can't wait for them to hit California! > > RJH > > Keith wrote: >> Hi, >> >> >> Here's some pics of the recent Leuven and Manchester gigs. Not in >> the same >> league as Mark's excellent snaps admittedly (just had my trusty old >> digital >> camera with me!), but thought you may wanna see them, esp. as >> there's not >> been much from the Leuven gig. >> >> >> Apologies for the Leuven ones being dark, but hey.it really wasn't >> that >> bright in there! >> >> >> (Wouldn't normally include the last one of Graham with it being so >> dark it's >> more of a silhouette, but I kinda like it!) >> >> >> Leuven >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339578@N03/sets/72157604934391705/ >> >> >> Manchester >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/26339578@N03/sets/72157604930558482/ >> >> >> >> If you only look at one from Mcr, look at the interview one. Sums >> it up >> nicely!! >> >> >> Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 18:21:07 -0700 From: Rick Hindman Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in SF? Fernando- If you chat with them again, let 'em know that if the play a south bay date (San Jose or Santa Cruz) I'll totally spring for dinner for them! :-) Just some wishful thinking... RJH fernando wrote: > No, it has not been finalized. It could be the Great American Music > Hall (excellent) or Fillmore (not so good). Since the tour has not > been finalized, it is unlikely to be mentioned on the site until then. > > I chatted briefly with Colin and Graham, who mentioned this. Margaret > also said it after the gig. > > > On May 7, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Cambra, Robert wrote: >> Wire in San Francisco in October, Fernando? Couldn't find it on PF.com. >> >> Very exciting, >> Robert (another) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #379 ********************************