From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #356 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, April 10 2008 Volume 10 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] New Wire [Craig Grannell ] RE: [idealcopy] New Wire ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire ["David McKenzie" ] RE: [idealcopy] only ones on tv ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire ["David McKenzie" ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire ["Paul Pietromonaco" ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire ["David McKenzie" ] [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith ["David McKenzie" ] RE: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire [eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire [eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire [Eric Klaver ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:54:06 +0100 From: Craig Grannell Subject: [idealcopy] New Wire On 9 Apr 2008, at 09:30, idealcopy-digest wrote: > even though Bruce was adamant he had left, Colin wasn't To be fair, it was _Bruce_ that famously said no-one can leave Wire. I suspect the remainder of the band hoped that if he had a break from Wire, he might change his mind. That hasn't happened, and so after a two-year hiatus, the remaining three just started to get on with it (R&B 03) and then went full throttle (Object 47). C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:07:17 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New Wire Lighten up man! It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the distance. Having said that this lady may well be a musical genius with a mini moog and fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. ; ) Np Paul Haig - electronic audience - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of fernando Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the sole context is that of music here... but may be I am wrong: being a man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing on stage and/or contributions to the group. On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: >> Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to >> thend, photo 17 of 18, >> and there's a unique photo of the new four piece >> line-up. >> >> Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... >> >> ; ) >> > > > Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. > > wnd3 > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:06:58 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire Ah IdealCopy returns to full strength with extra contention. Amazing what a little news will do. On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Keith wrote: > Lighten up man! > > It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the distance. > > Having said that this lady may well be a musical genius with a mini moog > and > fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. > > ; ) > > Np Paul Haig - electronic audience > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of fernando > Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire > > Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the > sole context is that of music here... but may be I am wrong: being a > man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing on stage and/or > contributions to the group. > > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: > > >> Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to > >> thend, photo 17 of 18, > >> and there's a unique photo of the new four piece > >> line-up. > >> > >> Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... > >> > >> ; ) > >> > > > > > > Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. > > > > wnd3 > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:37:57 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] only ones on tv Just back from Holy Fuck who were a little disappointing - the hoped-for Motorik groove never really got going. The songs really are far too short - young whippersnappers have no patience these days. They came across more like Battles than Neu! Am now reliant on the first UK performance of Harmonia in a couple of weeks - now that should deliver what I want. Ein anderes Keith There's a Holy Fuck remix of a Radiohead track here on the Radiohead remix site... http://www.radioheadremix.com/ Quite disappointing on first listen. Not what I expected though. Prefer this one... http://www.radioheadremix.com/remix/?id=906 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:18:08 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire I am all for the ukelele + moog genius bit... Wire goes Stereolab as it were. On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Keith wrote: > Lighten up man! > > It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the distance. > > Having said that this lady may well be a musical genius with a mini > moog and > fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. > > ; ) > > Np Paul Haig - electronic audience > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > Behalf > Of fernando > Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire > > Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the > sole context is that of music here... but may be I am wrong: being a > man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing on stage and/or > contributions to the group. > > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: > >>> Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to >>> thend, photo 17 of 18, >>> and there's a unique photo of the new four piece >>> line-up. >>> >>> Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... >>> >>> ; ) >>> >> >> >> Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. >> >> wnd3 >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________ >> Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference >> >> http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:26:33 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire nooooooooo On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM, fernando wrote: > I am all for the ukelele + moog genius bit... Wire goes Stereolab as it > were. > > > On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Keith wrote: > > > Lighten up man! > > > > It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the distance. > > > > Having said that this lady may well be a musical genius with a mini moog > > and > > fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. > > > > ; ) > > > > Np Paul Haig - electronic audience > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > > Behalf > > Of fernando > > Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 > > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire > > > > Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the > > sole context is that of music here... but may be I am wrong: being a > > man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing on stage and/or > > contributions to the group. > > > > > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: > > > > Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to > > > > thend, photo 17 of 18, > > > > and there's a unique photo of the new four piece > > > > line-up. > > > > > > > > Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... > > > > > > > > ; ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. > > > > > > wnd3 > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:32:35 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire That is the main point... there is new output generated in a Wire kind-of-way, and that is the important aspect of the whole thing. I understand that they are going to practice for a whole week at the Leuven venue, and that makes sense from the point of view of the new member, at least for the live effort. R&B03 has been playing on the basis of it being Wire and without knowledge of Bruce's role, and that enigma (for lack of a better word) is in Wire's favor. They want to call it Wire, and it will be as such -- that is the only concern that we have, regardless of who is in the band. cheers! - -fernando On Apr 8, 2008, at 2:04 AM, Craig Grannell wrote: > By the way, everyone, all this talk about the live shows and who's > in Wire is Wire-related activity like this list hasn't seen in > ages, but there's also a new nine-track album due soon! Clearly, > post-Bruce Wire still has plenty to offer. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:44:30 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire OK... my bad. How about Wire goes Queen (they did use moogs and there is one song with an Ukelele -- "Good Company" I think). better? On Apr 9, 2008, at 8:26 AM, David McKenzie wrote: > nooooooooo > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM, fernando > wrote: > >> I am all for the ukelele + moog genius bit... Wire goes Stereolab >> as it >> were. >> >> >> On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Keith wrote: >> >>> Lighten up man! >>> >>> It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the distance. >>> >>> Having said that this lady may well be a musical genius with a >>> mini moog >>> and >>> fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. >>> >>> ; ) >>> >>> Np Paul Haig - electronic audience >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On >>> Behalf >>> Of fernando >>> Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 >>> To: idealcopy@smoe.org >>> Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire >>> >>> Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the >>> sole context is that of music here... but may be I am wrong: being a >>> man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing on stage and/or >>> contributions to the group. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: >>> >>> Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to >>>>> thend, photo 17 of 18, >>>>> and there's a unique photo of the new four piece >>>>> line-up. >>>>> >>>>> Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... >>>>> >>>>> ; ) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. >>>> >>>> wnd3 >>>> >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________ >>>> Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference >>>> >>>> http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 08:55:01 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire Yes - Colin even mentions that quote. Let me give you the full reference - this might explain why I've been a little confused. This is from Mojo, April 2006, Page 57: - ---- As conversational foils, Gilbert and Newman make for highly entertaining pub company, a frequently hilarious contrast in temperament: Gilbert refined, benignly irascible, smoking and drinking pints ("lager ordinaire please - none of that other carry-on"), while Newman, ever the band youngster, yaps away on coffee and relentless enthusiasm. They still squabble over what the song Pink Flag is about. Gilbert: "It's about international violence." Newman: "It isn't about anything." Gilbert: "It's obviously about international violence." Newman: "I don't buy that. 'The pink flag is screaming....'?" Gilbert: "Yeah, the human race is screaming." Newman: "I don't buy that." Gilbert: "Well, we all have interpretations. It was never discussed." Today, 41-43 Neal Street houses the flagship London store of Speedo swimwear. Wire, meanwhile, is "on an extended lunchbreak", says Colin Newman. "Inactive," says Graham Lewis. In 2005, Bruce Gilbert, 60 this year, let it be known that he'd left the band. Wire's manager Paul Smith insists that there remain four members on the company payroll. But, as Newman observes, "Another of Bruce's great announcements - that he's made at various times in the past - is you're not allowed to leave." - ---- See why I've had doubts? ^_^ Cheers, Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Grannell" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:54 AM Subject: [idealcopy] New Wire > On 9 Apr 2008, at 09:30, idealcopy-digest wrote: >> even though Bruce was adamant he had left, Colin wasn't > > To be fair, it was _Bruce_ that famously said no-one can leave Wire. I > suspect the remainder of the band hoped that if he had a break from Wire, > he might change his mind. That hasn't happened, and so after a two-year > hiatus, the remaining three just started to get on with it (R&B 03) and > then went full throttle (Object 47). > > C ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:27:52 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire much ^_- On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:44 AM, fernando wrote: > OK... my bad. How about Wire goes Queen (they did use moogs and there is > one song with an Ukelele -- "Good Company" I think). > > better? > > On Apr 9, 2008, at 8:26 AM, David McKenzie wrote: > > > nooooooooo > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM, fernando wrote: > > > > I am all for the ukelele + moog genius bit... Wire goes Stereolab as > > > it > > > were. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Keith wrote: > > > > > > Lighten up man! > > > > > > > > It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the distance. > > > > > > > > Having said that this lady may well be a musical genius with a mini > > > > moog > > > > and > > > > fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. > > > > > > > > ; ) > > > > > > > > Np Paul Haig - electronic audience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > > > > Behalf > > > > Of fernando > > > > Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 > > > > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > > > > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire > > > > > > > > Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the > > > > sole context is that of music here... but may be I am wrong: being a > > > > man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing on stage and/or > > > > contributions to the group. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: > > > > > > > > Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to > > > > > > > > > thend, photo 17 of 18, > > > > > > and there's a unique photo of the new four piece > > > > > > line-up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... > > > > > > > > > > > > ; ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. > > > > > > > > > > wnd3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > > > > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith his new job, squirell killer http://tinyurl.com/6rtq9v Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:34:02 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire >>Wire's manager Paul Smith insists that there remain four members on the company payroll. But, as Newman observes, "Another of Bruce's great announcements - that he's made at various times in the past - is you're not allowed to leave." - ---- See why I've had doubts? ^_^<< The other quote relating to this, of course came from Paul Smith - who said that Bruce had resigned, but his resignation had not been accepted. This is still the case, as I understand it, though there is no immediate expectation of a volte-face by Mr G. Why did Bruce resign? Fed up with playing live, and fed up with playing the guitar, from what I heard at the time. Though clearly there's more to this.... But then again.... the option was always there for Bruce to participate without being a guitarist - the dry run for an imagined future non-rock Wire (!) was the Dip-flash piece performed at the Iain Sinclair M25 event at the Barbican - which saw the strangest Wire line-up - Rob playing syndrum pads; Graham on vocals (via a Kaoss Pad); Bruce adding random noise via sampler/keyboard, and Colin mixing it live on stage, with pre-recorded elements from a Protools rig. The more significant reason is the serious fallout that took place some time in 2006, resulting in the sacking of Paul Smith. The details of this may or may not ever be revealed - I certainly don't know the full story - but it seemed to have two effects - to reinforce Bruce's resigned status, despite renewed diplomacy around the end of '06; and to bring about a much closer relationship between Colin & Graham, who I'd say are probably working more closely as a unit than at any time since Chairs Missing. Remeber that Wire Mk3 is very much a Newman-Gilbert project, even down to the words, traditionally the Lewis domain. Mk4 is Lewis-Newman; denser, more crypyic "texts". Rob generally exists as a library of samples! Suspect the ball is in Bruce's court should he ever want back in.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:01:39 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith Fantastic story, though unless MES has moved house from his grim Mancunian suburb, he's unlikely to have taken his strimmer to a red squirrel. They only survive in a handful of locations now, generally in remote forests. the nearest enclave to manchester is Formby, between Liverpool and Southport, and a good 30-odd miles from MES's lair. So that would mean Mark was doing a public service by reducing the population of grey squirrels, which are responsible for the decline of the indigenous red. Then again... my cats can't catch a grey squirrel, so how a toothless 50-year old alcoholic can manage it is anyone's guess. I'd like to see a video of it though! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:48:22 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith you mean MES was just making it all up? perish the thought ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 19:52:23 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith I particularly liked the comment: "The group - whose songs include Disney's Dream Debased and DIY Meat" Either the writer of the piece is a hardcore fan or they've done some sterling research. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 09 April 2008 19:02 To: threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Mark E Smith Fantastic story, though unless MES has moved house from his grim Mancunian suburb, he's unlikely to have taken his strimmer to a red squirrel. They only survive in a handful of locations now, generally in remote forests. the nearest enclave to manchester is Formby, between Liverpool and Southport, and a good 30-odd miles from MES's lair. So that would mean Mark was doing a public service by reducing the population of grey squirrels, which are responsible for the decline of the indigenous red. Then again... my cats can't catch a grey squirrel, so how a toothless 50-year old alcoholic can manage it is anyone's guess. I'd like to see a video of it though! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:58:20 +0100 (BST) From: elektrolad Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire dittooooooo - --- David McKenzie wrote: > nooooooooo > > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM, fernando > wrote: > > > I am all for the ukelele + moog genius bit... Wire > goes Stereolab as it > > were. > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Keith wrote: > > > > > Lighten up man! > > > > > > It's not Margaret. It's some passer-by in the > distance. > > > > > > Having said that this lady may well be a musical > genius with a mini moog > > > and > > > fun-sized ukulele in her handbag for all I know. > > > > > > ; ) > > > > > > Np Paul Haig - electronic audience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On > > > Behalf > > > Of fernando > > > Sent: 09 April 2008 03:48 > > > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > > > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire > > > > > > Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical > attributes when the > > > sole context is that of music here... but may be > I am wrong: being a > > > man-baby and a dwarf can influence her playing > on stage and/or > > > contributions to the group. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, elektrolad wrote: > > > > > > Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, > next to > > > > > thend, photo 17 of 18, > > > > > and there's a unique photo of the new four > piece > > > > > line-up. > > > > > > > > > > Gotta say that Margaret's not what I > expected... > > > > > > > > > > ; ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like a man baby! And a dwarf as well. > > > > > > > > wnd3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:05:26 -0400 From: eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Were I was feeling partial to that idea, too. - -another the Paul - -----Original Message----- From: David McKenzie To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 1:29 pm Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Seing as how this is a replacement, I nominate the second letter Were On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:02 PM, RJH wrote: > Well it is their band... but this does kind of go > against the whole concept the band has worked with > since its inception. Maybe that idea was Bruce's. > > I was kind of hoping for "Ire" myself. > > RJH > > > --- elektrolad wrote: > > > So how can they still call themselves Wire??? > > > > > > --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > > > > > --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT > > > Daylight > > > > Time, > > > > lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > One announcement we can make right away, > > however, > > > > is > > > > that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from > > the > > > > group > > > > in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret > > > > Fielder > > > > McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. > > > > > > > > > > > > What ? WTF..... > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... > > > > > > Fergus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > > > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > > > http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:26:54 -0400 From: eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire hehe, I do like her bag and shoes, though. And she's got the Bruce stage stance down pretty well B :o) Welcome to the band, Margaret! - -another the Paul p.s. Please announce a NY show soon...I need a lot of time to prepare for these things! - -----Original Message----- From: Keith To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 8:23 am Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New Wire - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Craig Grannell Sent: 08 April 2008 11:21 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire > >>Note with Margaret that she's not in the band per se - she didn't > pay > on Object 47, for example. She's been brought in to augment the live > Wire.<< So it's 'just' Colin Graham and Robert? Yes, Wire is currently a trio. Note the newer portraits at http://www.pinkflag.com/look.php C Scroll right down ro the bottom of the page, next to thend, photo 17 of 18, and there's a unique photo of the new four piece line-up. Gotta say that Margaret's not what I expected... ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 23:06:35 -0400 From: Eric Klaver Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire That ain't Mags. This is: http://lorseau.hinah.com/gallery.php?c=pzic&s=session&g=laika or http://tinyurl.com/5wup9r Eric On 9-Apr-08, at 9:07 AM, Keith wrote: Nice comment to emphasize on negative physical attributes when the sole context is that of music here... Moriyama & Teshima Architects 32 Davenport Road, Toronto, Ontario M5R 1H3 Canada t: 416-925-4484 f: 416-925-4637 www.mtarch.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V10 #356 ********************************