From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V10 #353 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, April 7 2008 Volume 10 : Number 353 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] wire not wire [elektrolad ] Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist [elektrolad ] Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] Too Late [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire [RJH ] [idealcopy] Soft launch of pinkflag.com forum [Craig Grannell ] Re: [idealcopy] Soft launch of pinkflag.com forum ["David McKenzie" ] Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Klaus Dinger RIP [Creatured ] [idealcopy] Margaret Fielder McGinnis [Ari ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire this n that [Creatured ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire this n that ["Robert Cambra" ] RE: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist ["Keith Knight" ] RE: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Klaus Dinger RIP [Creatured ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:48:41 +0100 (BST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist New Wire album details: Object 47 Wire is proud to announce that it has completed work on its 11th studio album, continuing the momentum that began with the band's 2006 reactivation and Read & Burn 03. Dubbed 'Object 47' - 47 representing its position as the 47th release in the Wire discography - the album finds Wire utilising the core writing partnership responsible for Pink Flag, Colin Newman and Graham Lewis. The latest release is described by the band as having "tunes with zoom", and this is best illustrated by the melodic and textural development already suggested by elements of last year's Read & Burn 03. The full track-listing for the album is: One Of Us; Circumspect; Mekon Headman; Perspex Icon; Four Long Years; Hard Currency; Patient Flees; Are You Ready?; All Fours. Object 47 will be on sale later this year, direct from PostEverything and via record stores worldwide. A final release date will be announced shortly, and so sign up to the mailing list to be the first to find out when the album will surface. April 06, 2008Live Wire As regular visitors to pinkflag.com will no doubt have realised, Wire now has a list of upcoming gigs in Europe. Those so far announced are just the initial dates showcasing a rejuvenated Wire, with the band fired-up after its lengthy hiatus from touring. Expect more gigs during 2008 to be announced in the coming weeks, not only in Europe (including London), but also in the USA. Again, ensure you're signed up to the mailing list to be the first to hear about upcoming gigs. One announcement we can make right away, however, is that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the group in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret Fielder McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. Known for her work in Laika (masterminds of one of the best Wire covers to date, the Whore version of German Shepherds), her live credentials are further enhanced by her being a part of PJ Harvey's touring band earlier in the decade. http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:09:43 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT Daylight Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: One announcement we can make right away, however, is that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the group in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret Fielder McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. What ? WTF..... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:15:53 +0100 (BST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist - --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT Daylight > Time, > lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > > One announcement we can make right away, however, > is > that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the > group > in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret > Fielder > McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. > > > What ? WTF..... > > Chris ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... Fergus > > > > > http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:18:34 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist In a message dated 07/04/2008 13:15:58 GMT Daylight Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... Fergus Well there was a rumour circulating about a few years ago I do remember about Bruce's health which was knocked on the head but I suppose ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:42:18 +0100 From: Craig Grannell Subject: [idealcopy] Pinkflag.com forum soft launch In the not-too-distant, the Wire forum at Pinkflag.com will get a soft launch, whereupon a small bunch of people will get to test it and feedback to me regarding things that are horribly broken. If people here are interested in doing that, please send an email directly to me (don't just post on the list), and I'll add you to the initial mailout. Email craig AT snubcommunications.com rather than the wireviews@yahoo address. What I'm hoping for is for people to get involved in proper discussions, to test how well the forum's working, and to make suggestions regarding usability and element positioning. This should - if all goes well - also enable us to launch the forum properly with several discussions already 'in the bank', so to speak. Best, Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:33:29 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist Well, That's that then, innit? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:52:30 +0100 From: "Andrew Walkingshaw" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:33 PM, David McKenzie wrote: > Well, > That's that then, innit? > No letter-drop this time, either? "Ire" does have a good ring to it. It's a shame, I guess, but none of us know why Bruce has left the band - - and it'd be unseemly to speculate. But whatever happens, it'll be worth our attention, and that's good enough for me at least. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 07:48:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist I'll echo that sentiment, it just won't be 'the same' without Bruce, if y'all have contact with him send him our regards will ya, and tell him we'll all miss him, a lot. As for the u.s tour, the quicker we know where/when the easier it'll be for us this side of the pond to make arrangements to take a few daze off......... Lined up: REM w/ Modest Mouse, June 10. so no local Wire gigs then (please) Ari - ----- Original Message ---- From: "CHRISWIRE@aol.com" To: lockupyourhats@yahoo.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 8:09:43 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT Daylight Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: One announcement we can make right away, however, is that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the group in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret Fielder McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. What ? WTF..... Chris ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 02:19:09 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: [idealcopy] Too Late But may be of interest to Durutti fans. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-LES-PAUL-Owned-by-Vini-Reilly-FACTORY-RECORDS_W 0QQitemZ320228495526QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:23:19 +0100 (BST) From: elektrolad Subject: [idealcopy] wire not wire So how can they still call themselves Wire??? - --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT > Daylight > > Time, > > lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > > > > One announcement we can make right away, however, > > is > > that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the > > group > > in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret > > Fielder > > McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. > > > > > > What ? WTF..... > > > > Chris > > ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... > > Fergus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings > http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:33:47 -0700 From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Someone suggested "Ire" -- but giving away the W is a big deal... Maybe "Wre" since Robert took the "e," as it were... but let's not the new "live" member garner a "ck" to be "Wreck" - -fernando On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:23 AM, elektrolad wrote: > So how can they still call themselves Wire??? > > > --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > >> --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: >> >>> >>> In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT >> Daylight >>> Time, >>> lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: >>> >>> One announcement we can make right away, however, >>> is >>> that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the >>> group >>> in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret >>> Fielder >>> McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. >>> >>> >>> What ? WTF..... >>> >>> Chris >> >> ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... >> >> Fergus >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> http://www.roomtemperature.org >> http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com >> http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ >> > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:34:01 +0100 (BST) From: elektrolad Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist Somebody has been busy rewriting the myspace page and wikipedia. Suppose we were all too busy to notice. A *girl* in Wire!!! Oh, the horror! wnd3 - --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT > Daylight > > Time, > > lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > > > > One announcement we can make right away, however, > > is > > that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the > > group > > in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret > > Fielder > > McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire - ----- Original Message ---- From: elektrolad wrote: ..So how can they still call themselves Wire???,, For the same reason uncle Robert can call anyone that plays with him 'The Cure', c'mon Billy.............. A ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:52:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist A *girl* in Wire!!! Oh, the horror! You're joking, right? a *girl* in Wire might encourage a few Fems to join the 'gentlemans club' eh what, anyone for gin and tonic? A ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Too Late try tinyurl.com mr. K.......... - ----- Original Message ---- From: Keith To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 9:19:09 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Too Late But may be of interest to Durutti fans. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GIBSON-LES-PAUL-Owned-by-Vini-Reilly-FACTORY-RECORDS_W 0QQitemZ320228495526QQihZ011QQcategoryZ33040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:00:30 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist A *girl* in Wire!!! Oh, the horror! wnd3 This "girl" is really great news & will no doubt make them even more blinding live. Glamour like Githead ! Well maybe not glam rock like Keith likes it but still welcome. Chris np - Ash - Free All Angels ( Can anyone explain why I like Ash ? ) Could it be the very catchy pop tunes ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 10:02:17 -0700 (PDT) From: RJH Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Well it is their band... but this does kind of go against the whole concept the band has worked with since its inception. Maybe that idea was Bruce's. I was kind of hoping for "Ire" myself. RJH - --- elektrolad wrote: > So how can they still call themselves Wire??? > > > --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > > > --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT > > Daylight > > > Time, > > > lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > One announcement we can make right away, > however, > > > is > > > that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from > the > > > group > > > in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret > > > Fielder > > > McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. > > > > > > > > > What ? WTF..... > > > > > > Chris > > > > ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... > > > > Fergus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > > http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:24:27 +0100 From: Craig Grannell Subject: [idealcopy] Soft launch of pinkflag.com forum We figured we may as well open the test forum to all IdealCopyists. It's at http://www.pinkflag.com/talk/ Please note that this isn't done yet. The decorator's not been in, and lots of stuff is still in the wrong place, although the forum seems to be working OK. Some features are missing (notably quoting, which I'll be adding soon), but the basics are there. Also, ignore the sign-up page. At present, you can skip the admin step and start posting as soon as you sign up. We'll likely change this once the site goes live. Please also use the forum for proper discussion already - Colin and I have already posted a load of junk on there to check it works, and have since deleted all that! Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:29:19 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Seing as how this is a replacement, I nominate the second letter Were On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:02 PM, RJH wrote: > Well it is their band... but this does kind of go > against the whole concept the band has worked with > since its inception. Maybe that idea was Bruce's. > > I was kind of hoping for "Ire" myself. > > RJH > > > --- elektrolad wrote: > > > So how can they still call themselves Wire??? > > > > > > --- Fergus Kelly wrote: > > > > > --- CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 07/04/2008 12:54:38 GMT > > > Daylight > > > > Time, > > > > lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > > > > > > > > One announcement we can make right away, > > however, > > > > is > > > > that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from > > the > > > > group > > > > in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret > > > > Fielder > > > > McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. > > > > > > > > > > > > What ? WTF..... > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > ((( Indeed. Welcome to the post-Bruce era Wire... > > > > > > Fergus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.roomtemperature.org > > > http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com > > > http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference > > > > http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:38:11 -0500 From: "David McKenzie" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Soft launch of pinkflag.com forum well since you make it so easy ... On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Craig Grannell wrote: > We figured we may as well open the test forum to all IdealCopyists. It's > at http://www.pinkflag.com/talk/ > > Please note that this isn't done yet. The decorator's not been in, and > lots of stuff is still in the wrong place, although the forum seems to be > working OK. Some features are missing (notably quoting, which I'll be adding > soon), but the basics are there. Also, ignore the sign-up page. At present, > you can skip the admin step and start posting as soon as you sign up. We'll > likely change this once the site goes live. > > Please also use the forum for proper discussion already - Colin and I have > already posted a load of junk on there to check it works, and have since > deleted all that! > > > Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:19:59 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: [idealcopy] So... R'n'B 03? Hi everyone, So - based on the two announcements about Object 47 and the tour lineup, does this mean that Bruce Gilbert did not play on Read & Burn 03? It doesn't explicitly say - but I think I can infer that the line-up for R'n'B 03 would be Colin Newman, Graham Lewis and Robert Grey. Does anyone actually know what the credits are? Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:36:17 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire >>but this does kind of go against the whole concept the band has worked with since its inception.<< Surely that IS the whole concept? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:18:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Creatured Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Klaus Dinger RIP I think 2 members in Neu played with Kraftwerk,at least live. I have a `1971 show of Kraftwerk that said 2 Neu memebers were palying with Kraftwerk. Several songs have soem good guitar playing on them. sorry if this has already been said. Sad to see IC going down. Been here awhile sniff sniff NP: Magazine 8/21/80 Toronto FM http://www.docuticker.com/ - ----- Original Message ---- From: Norm Fasey To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 6:28:23 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Klaus Dinger RIP Also the drummer on the dibut album from Kraftwerk wasn't he? One of the founding members according to Wikipedia. Norm MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Died of a heart attack apparently, age 61. > > So no Neu! revival, ever. And Rother almost seemed to be leaving the door > ever so slightly open for that to happen in the current issue of The Wire... > > Very sad - Dinger's influence on punk should not be underestimated. > > Mark > > > - -- ICQ: 126113095 Yahoo Instant Messager: nfasey Inbox protected by ClearMyMail www.ClearMyMail.com {cda219d4ef9e484c9473cc10b8b6c80d} [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of norm.vcf] ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:53:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Subject: [idealcopy] Margaret Fielder McGinnis We are an ignorant lot: Welcome to the fold Margaret, may your stay be lengthy and joyous Ari ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Creatured Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire this n that \ Here are Wire's gig in California for 1987 ,i didnt find any for thier earier gigs,but i think the Mabuhay closed in 1987 or so. WIRE JUN 29 1987 "I BEAM, SAN FRANCISCO, CA." AUD A- 80 M2 1028 WIRE JUN 30 1987 "I BEAM, SAN FRANCISCO, CA." AUD B+ 75 1515 WIRE JUL 1 1987 "VARIETY ARTS CENTER, LOS ANGELES, CA." AUD B+ 75 1428 WIRE JUL 1 1987 "LATE NIGHT, LOS ANGELES, CA." TVR B+ 10 M2 1698 And for my Kraftwerk comment earier,here is the date and setlist for the Kraftwerk/Neu show i mentioned NP:Kraftwerk K4 Bremen Radio Gondel Kino, Bremen, Germany June 25, 1971 01. Heavy Metal Kids (07:51) 02. K1 (15:34) 03. K2 (Ruckzuck) (19:09) 04. K3 (15:09) 05. K4 (11:29) http://www.docuticker.com/ - ----- Original Message ---- From: "Cambra, Robert" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 3:01:04 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Wire this n that Hey, Wire never played the Mabuhay Gardens . . . did they? johnny clash wrote: did you see them at the mabuhay gardens? "Girlfriend (No Warning Given)" Brillant! Almost lost my lunch when I read that. ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:16:59 -0700 From: "Robert Cambra" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire this n that I was at those two shows at the I-Beam, my first experiences of live Wire. Very exciting and memorable. The place lasted for some years after that, I think until the middle 90s. Robert (another) On 4/7/08 1:52 PM, "Creatured" wrote: > \ Here are Wire's gig in California for 1987 ,i didnt find any for thier > earier gigs,but i think the Mabuhay closed in 1987 or so. > > WIRE JUN 29 1987 "I BEAM, SAN FRANCISCO, CA." AUD A- 80 M2 > 1028 > WIRE JUN 30 1987 "I BEAM, SAN FRANCISCO, CA." AUD B+ 75 > 1515 > WIRE JUL 1 1987 "VARIETY ARTS CENTER, LOS ANGELES, CA." AUD B+ > 75 1428 > WIRE JUL 1 1987 "LATE NIGHT, LOS ANGELES, CA." TVR B+ 10 M2 > 1698 > > And for my Kraftwerk comment earier,here is the date and setlist for the > Kraftwerk/Neu show i mentioned > > > NP:Kraftwerk K4 Bremen Radio Gondel Kino, Bremen, Germany > June 25, 1971 > 01. Heavy Metal Kids (07:51) > 02. K1 (15:34) > 03. K2 (Ruckzuck) (19:09) > 04. K3 (15:09) > 05. K4 (11:29) > > http://www.docuticker.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Cambra, Robert" > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2008 3:01:04 PM > Subject: [idealcopy] Wire this n that > > Hey, Wire never played the Mabuhay Gardens . . . did they? > > johnny clash wrote: did you see them at the > mabuhay gardens? > > > > "Girlfriend (No Warning Given)" Brillant! Almost lost my lunch when I read > that. > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > ______ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total > Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > ****************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute and delete the original message. Please notify the sender by E-Mail at the address shown. Thank you for your compliance. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:56:53 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Margaret Fielder McGinnis In a message dated 07/04/2008 21:55:50 GMT Daylight Time, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: Welcome to the fold Margaret, may your stay be lengthy and joyous Indeed and heartily seconded by all of us... And there was I awaiting the Avril Lavigne / Wire single as promised on April 1st and lo & behold a woman joins the group. Must be coincidence. Chris np. Freescha - Head Warlock Double Stare ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: RJH Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Agreed- That was a poor choice of words. How's about: "but this does kind of go against one of the concepts the band has worked with since its inception." RJH - --- MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > > > >>but this does kind of go > against the whole concept the band has worked with > since its inception.<< > > > Surely that IS the whole concept? > > Mark > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:08:31 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist Well, I had been pondering why Bruce had decided to come back so I'd guess this answers that. Hey, let's start wildly speculating about the song titles in this context! - One of Us - a song for Margaret? Circumspect - BG keeping his opinions to himself Four Long Years - since BG left Patient Flees - hmm, allegory of BG's departure with Wire as hospital? Are You Ready? - another song for Margaret or perhaps a searing insight into Wire's state of mind during the split (I'm thinking a Roger Waters vibe here) All Fours - ready to go again, having filled the gap Needless to say all this is no doubt complete bollocks. Given that I'm still dealing with the fallout of David Jackson's departure from Van der Graaf Generator this news is somewhat depressing, but just as VdGG have returned with renewed vigour I have high hopes that this will write a new illustrous chapter for the boys. another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Fergus Kelly Sent: 07 April 2008 09:49 To: ideal copy Subject: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist New Wire album details: Object 47 Wire is proud to announce that it has completed work on its 11th studio album, continuing the momentum that began with the band's 2006 reactivation and Read & Burn 03. Dubbed 'Object 47' - 47 representing its position as the 47th release in the Wire discography - the album finds Wire utilising the core writing partnership responsible for Pink Flag, Colin Newman and Graham Lewis. The latest release is described by the band as having "tunes with zoom", and this is best illustrated by the melodic and textural development already suggested by elements of last year's Read & Burn 03. The full track-listing for the album is: One Of Us; Circumspect; Mekon Headman; Perspex Icon; Four Long Years; Hard Currency; Patient Flees; Are You Ready?; All Fours. Object 47 will be on sale later this year, direct from PostEverything and via record stores worldwide. A final release date will be announced shortly, and so sign up to the mailing list to be the first to find out when the album will surface. April 06, 2008Live Wire As regular visitors to pinkflag.com will no doubt have realised, Wire now has a list of upcoming gigs in Europe. Those so far announced are just the initial dates showcasing a rejuvenated Wire, with the band fired-up after its lengthy hiatus from touring. Expect more gigs during 2008 to be announced in the coming weeks, not only in Europe (including London), but also in the USA. Again, ensure you're signed up to the mailing list to be the first to hear about upcoming gigs. One announcement we can make right away, however, is that due to Bruce Gilbert's resignation from the group in 2004, upcoming Wire gigs will have Margaret Fielder McGinnis augmenting the band on rhythm guitar. Known for her work in Laika (masterminds of one of the best Wire covers to date, the Whore version of German Shepherds), her live credentials are further enhanced by her being a part of PJ Harvey's touring band earlier in the decade. http://www.roomtemperature.org http://www.asullenrelapse.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/ferguskellyrecordings http://www.flickr.com/photos/55867717@N00/sets/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:17:26 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist Andrew wrote: > It's a shame, I guess, but none of us know why Bruce has left the band > - and it'd be unseemly to speculate. Unseemly, yes, but FUN! 1. He left to pursue his passion for fine Belgian cheeses. 2. Starting a webcomic based on the wacky adventures of a post-punk art-rock foursome. 3. Picked for Secretary of Defense in the Obama administration. 4. Abducted by aliens. 5. Converted to Talibanism and renounced music. 6. Always wanted to pitch for the Yankees. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:19:22 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire >>"but this does kind of go against one of the concepts the band has worked with since its inception."<< You're missing my point entirely! If there is a "concept" to Wire it's the element of surprise - of NOT doing what you'd expect a group in their position to do. By that yardstick it's exactly in line with the "concept", no? Female guitarist in the Gilbert hotseat? Ah, the unexpected. How very Wire. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 15:21:03 -0700 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist > Given that I'm still dealing with the fallout of David Jackson's departure > from Van der Graaf Generator this news is somewhat depressing, but just as > VdGG have returned with renewed vigour I have high hopes that this will > write a new illustrous chapter for the boys. > Well - boys 'n' girls, now, right? ^_- Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:30:29 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire In a message dated 07/04/2008 23:25:56 GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: Female guitarist in the Gilbert hotseat? Ah, the unexpected. How very Wire. Mark Ah but Rhythm guitar Mark.... Wonder whether Mr Newman will get a standing ovation for his guitar playing on tour. (Genius quip I know). Must listen to some Laika ASAP. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:42:08 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] new live guitarist >Well maybe not glam rock like Keith likes it but still welcome. Shame. Personally I still live for the day when Graham goes on-stage wearing a feather boa! ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:45:37 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire >>Ah but Rhythm guitar Mark....<< Yes, Bruce was renowned for his lead guitar style!!! ;-) >> Wonder whether Mr Newman will get a standing ovation for his guitar playing on tour. (Genius quip I know).<< Sadly the Breadwinner hasn't been sighted since the RFH... >> Must listen to some Laika ASAP.<< Decent band - one of those Brit underground bands that seem to have been around for ages without breaking out of cult status, despite being relatively easy on the ear. See also Broadcast, Hood, Clinic, Pram etc. I saw Margaret in PJ Harvey's band a few years ago - this was the Stories from the City tour; Eric Drew Feldman on bass, Rob Ellis on drums and Margaret Fielder on guitar, plus another guitarist - so a pretty dense sound. She'll do a good job, I'm sure. Be interesting to see how it works... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:50:02 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire >>Dunno about that. Surely Malka was a front runner in the 'who'll replace Bruce race'?<< I suspect the "Yoko factor" ruled that one out!! ;-) Or were you thinking of two basses then? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 18:51:19 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] new live guitarist >>Shame. Personally I still live for the day when Graham goes on-stage wearing a feather boa! ; )<< Maybe having a lass in t'Wire will awaken his feminine side. Next solo project: She Said Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:54:29 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] wire not wire No! _____ Or were you thinking of two basses then? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:46:24 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist Oi! - remember how many people there are with Luton connections here, younger Keith... (I am of course ignoring this slur) ATK - -----Original Message----- From: Keith [mailto:keith.indoorminer@virgin.net] Sent: 07 April 2008 23:40 To: 'Keith Knight'; 'ideal copy' Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist Given that I'm still dealing with the fallout of David Jackson's departure from Van der Graaf Generator this news is somewhat depressing, but just as VdGG have returned with renewed vigour I have high hopes that this will write a new illustrous chapter for the boys. another the Keith Next week, AT Keith compares Luton Town with Real Madrid.! ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 23:40:27 +0100 From: "Keith" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] New album new live guitarist Given that I'm still dealing with the fallout of David Jackson's departure from Van der Graaf Generator this news is somewhat depressing, but just as VdGG have returned with renewed vigour I have high hopes that this will write a new illustrous chapter for the boys. another the Keith Next week, AT Keith compares Luton Town with Real Madrid.! ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 19:40:21 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Klaus Dinger RIP >>Sad to see IC going down. Been here awhile sniff sniff<< Who said anything about IC "going down"? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:12:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Creatured Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire Wow,Eric Drew Feldman,that guy has played with everyone. Capt. Beefheart,Snakefinger and i cant remember the others,but i know someone will add to the list. Just Seen: Mary Weis(Shangri La's) in NYC last month, what a show,she can really rock out those oldies,she has a great voice. NP: I'm So Hollow- 1980-1 Peel Session http://www.docuticker.com/ - ----- Original Message ---- From: "MarkBursa@aol.com" To: CHRISWIRE@aol.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Monday, April 7, 2008 6:45:37 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] wire not wire >>Ah but Rhythm guitar Mark....<< Yes, Bruce was renowned for his lead guitar style!!! ;-) >> Wonder whether Mr Newman will get a standing ovation for his guitar playing on tour. (Genius quip I know).<< Sadly the Breadwinner hasn't been sighted since the RFH... >> Must listen to some Laika ASAP.<< Decent band - one of those Brit underground bands that seem to have been around for ages without breaking out of cult status, despite being relatively easy on the ear. See also Broadcast, Hood, Clinic, Pram etc. I saw Margaret in PJ Harvey's band a few years ago - this was the Stories from the City tour; Eric Drew Feldman on bass, Rob Ellis on drums and Margaret Fielder on guitar, plus another guitarist - so a pretty dense sound. She'll do a good job, I'm sure. Be interesting to see how it works... Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. 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